[VIDEO] First Indian vlogger visits Pakistan

[Lonewarrior]

I dont think so that Indians are allowed to go any remote areas even with sponsors, last time Pakistani Govt allowed an indian actress to visit muree. thre was a restriction for indians to visit beyond muree. this dude somehow allowed to visit beyond muree, GB , Hunza and Pak-China border. dont know how they allowed that. but i think he was on world tour and Pakistan was his #181 country. I am not discouraging indians to come but i dont think Govt should allow Indian citizens beyond Islamabad or Muree.
its look like he is from kerala.
Personally i really like to invite mr.joshila ....

 

[Pakistanian]

You want them to visit Pakistan while Kashmir is under embargo and thousands of people are imprisoned.

 

[Lonewarrior]

You want them to visit Pakistan while Kashmir is under embargo and thousands of people are imprisoned.

they are already visiting pakistan (Kartarpur)
btw, read the OP again ....

 

[DeadBall]

Was he allowed inside Faisal Masjid? From what I can see is that he is carefully treading outside.

Also taking pictures next to his PIA flight with an armed soldier doesn't help matters and him being a South Indian probably doesn't have problem with beef etc.

It is more for his benefit and increasing his subscribers but every little step helps us.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Was he allowed inside Faisal Masjid? From what I can see is that he is carefully treading outside.

Also taking pictures next to his PIA flight with an armed soldier doesn't help matters and him being a South Indian probably doesn't have problem with beef etc.

It is more for his benefit and increasing his subscribers but every little step helps us.

hes on world tour, so helping us is not his motive. what i am asking is how he was allowed to travel beyond muree, in places like GB, Hunza etc.

 

[leg-side-flick]

hes on world tour, so helping us is not his motive. what i am asking is how he was allowed to travel beyond muree, in places like GB, Hunza etc.

Are outsiders or Indians not allowed in GB or Hunza.... Is it sensitive....

Genuine question, I didn't know this

 

[kk1992]

Was he allowed inside Faisal Masjid? From what I can see is that he is carefully treading outside.

Also taking pictures next to his PIA flight with an armed soldier doesn't help matters and him being a South Indian probably doesn't have problem with beef etc.

It is more for his benefit and increasing his subscribers but every little step helps us.

There you go, again, always the one. lol

You and I, no one knows whether he was allowed or not allowed, only he can answer that question but he was in Basdha mosque.

Many US and Canadian airport have Armed Police officer roaming around.

Of course he is doing this for his benefit and not for just Pakistan or for the rest of the 179 countries he has visited.

Whats up with few Pakistanis pointing out negative when there isn't one, when the person made video did not intend to show any negative? incredible.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Was he allowed inside Faisal Masjid? From what I can see is that he is carefully treading outside.

Also taking pictures next to his PIA flight with an armed soldier doesn't help matters and him being a South Indian probably doesn't have problem with beef etc.

It is more for his benefit and increasing his subscribers but every little step helps us.

Photo with armed soldier, what is the issue in that.... Here in India people routinely do that, I have done it myself in Vatican with Papal Guards and so many other places...

Also you mentioned Faisl Mosque, are non Muslims not allowed

 

[Pakistanian]

Why was he allowed to visit Gilgit? Pakistani citizens and people of Pakistani origin aren't allowed to visit Indian-occupied Kashmir.

 

[WebGuru]

Was he allowed inside Faisal Masjid? From what I can see is that he is carefully treading outside.

There shouldn't be any issue the whole Jones family was inside Badshahi mosque recently and i have seen many other foreigners inside too filming just need to cover the head.

Watch from 16:00

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[Lonewarrior]

Are outsiders or Indians not allowed in GB or Hunza.... Is it sensitive....

Genuine question, I didn't know this

Photo with armed soldier, what is the issue in that.... Here in India people routinely do that, I have done it myself in Vatican with Papal Guards and so many other places...

Also you mentioned Faisl Mosque, are non Muslims not allowed

outsiders are allowed, many foreigners (from US,UK,Europe etc) are visiting in GB and Hunza, only indians are not allowed beyond Islamabad. some years ago an indian actress allowed to go to muree, but thats it. it was her shoot in muree for some drama ....

foreigners can go inside faisal mosque but they cant make movie or pic inside .....

 

[Nostalgic]

Why was he allowed to visit Gilgit? Pakistani citizens and people of Pakistani origin aren't allowed to visit Indian-occupied Kashmir.

It enrages me too, but consider the propaganda potential. Just the other day, I read an article by some Indian called The Kashmir Without the Military or something along those lines, and he seemed taken aback by not seeing 800,000 troops on our side.

 

[Lonewarrior]

It enrages me too, but consider the propaganda potential. Just the other day, I read an article by some Indian called The Kashmir Without the Military or something along those lines, and he seemed taken aback by not seeing 800,000 troops on our side.

can you plz share the link ....

 

[Nostalgic]

can you plz share the link ....

I’ll see if I can dig it up. A cursory search didn’t bring it up. I recall following a link on Twitter posted by someone in the Kashmiri diaspora.

 

[WebGuru]

can you plz share the link ....

I’ll see if I can dig it up. A cursory search didn’t bring it up. I recall following a link on Twitter posted by someone in the Kashmiri diaspora.

A Kashmir minus troops

The first thing that strikes one is the conspicuous absence of any military forces on the roads, or in the towns and villages scattered across the mountainous terrain. This becomes the region’s severe disadvantage in living up to its official Indian designation as “Pakistan-occupied Kashmir”.

A Pakistani colleague rubbed it in by loudly pointing it out to our group of academics and journalists who were travelling in a van: “You would be hard-pressed to find any army personnel on the roads in comparison to the Indian side, which is replete with military presence even in government buildings, residential houses, alleyways, orchards and pastures.”

The absence of any physical military control that we have become accustomed to on the Indian side did stand out.

During my three days of stay, all I was able to notice was a few policemen regulating traffic at two or three junctions or a dozen or so cops at the entrances of the prime minister’s personal residence or the President House.

Also, there was no Section 144 in place that could bar throngs of people who were out and about, attending to their daily business. Phew! The Internet also worked and without any conditions from any authorities.

Full article https://www.telegraphindia.com/indi...2.1830024053.1577827907-1125170495.1577827906

 

[Nostalgic]

A Kashmir minus troops



Full article https://www.telegraphindia.com/indi...2.1830024053.1577827907-1125170495.1577827906

Thanks. Looks like the journalist was Kashmiri himself. For some reason I thought he was Indian.

 

[ElRaja]

Why was he allowed to visit Gilgit? Pakistani citizens and people of Pakistani origin aren't allowed to visit Indian-occupied Kashmir.

gilgit is in gligit baltistan, neither pakistan, nor gb locals, afaik consider it to be part of kashmir. gb was occupied and administratively amalgamated into kashmir under the sikh empire in the middle of the 19th century. finally pakistan doesnt view the region as disputed, so dont see why Indians cant visit.

 

[Nostalgic]

gilgit is in gligit baltistan, neither pakistan, nor gb locals, afaik consider it to be part of kashmir. gb was occupied and administratively amalgamated into kashmir under the sikh empire in the middle of the 19th century. finally pakistan doesnt view the region as disputed, so dont see why Indians cant visit.

Minor correction: integrated into J&K by the Dogras, after they broke away from the Sikh Empire.

From what I’ve read, the locals resented not just being ruled by the Dogras, but also being potentially ruled by Kashmiris after the Dogras. That said, the fact that we haven’t declared them a fully-fledged province yet suggests we do consider it part of the dispute.

 

[cric_man]

Foreigners except Indians are free to go about anywhere in Pakistan & Azad Kashmir. Indians are restricted to certain cities based on what was authorized at the time their visa was issued. This is based on reciprocity for what India does to Pakistani visitors. If you are a Pakistani and somehow get issued an Indian visa, it will have specific cities you are allowed to go to i-e Delhi, Agra etc. You have to report to a designated police station in each of these cities when you get there.

 

[Pakistanian]

gilgit is in gligit baltistan, neither pakistan, nor gb locals, afaik consider it to be part of kashmir. gb was occupied and administratively amalgamated into kashmir under the sikh empire in the middle of the 19th century. finally pakistan doesnt view the region as disputed, so dont see why Indians cant visit.

I know that but Pakistanis and Pakistani origin people can't get a visa to visit any part of Iok and that includes Ladakh and Jammu. I don't think Pakistan should allow indians to visit Gilgit Baltistan until Pakistanis are allowed to visit IoK.

 

[PakLFC]

Other then in Kartarpur Indians should be banned from entering Pakistan. This guy could be a RAW agent. I have no problem in ISI agents causing trouble for India across the border at all.

 

[RajBan]

On a related topic, what are the options for an Indian like me to visit Pakistan if I want to do that in few years time? I know the relation is volatile now but these things continue in cycles and won't be surprised if suddenly there is resumption of exchanges between the two countries after few years. If and when that happens, is there any official group that kind of facilitates such visit. I am interested more in the historical places and will like to visit Lahore, Multan, Peshawar, Hyderabad and Karachi(you can suggest other places). Gilgit would have been nice but understand the sensitivity due to politics between the two countries, so will cut it down.

 

[jino]

Even I would love to visit Pakistan. My passport is non Indian but am of Indian origin. I don’t know I can visit most of the cities because of my country of origin.

 

[leg-side-flick]

outsiders are allowed, many foreigners (from US,UK,Europe etc) are visiting in GB and Hunza, only indians are not allowed beyond Islamabad. some years ago an indian actress allowed to go to muree, but thats it. it was her shoot in muree for some drama ....

foreigners can go inside faisal mosque but they cant make movie or pic inside .....

Thanks!!!!

 

[big_gamer007]

Wow great video, the attabad lake looks so beautiful, really mesmerising. Pakistan has a lot of tourist potential if the perception changes with time.

Great video, the guy said at the end it's been his best experience so far, pretty sure it had to do with the hospitality he received.

 

[Hornbill]

hes on world tour, so helping us is not his motive. what i am asking is how he was allowed to travel beyond muree, in places like GB, Hunza etc.

I don't know how you are going to react after reading this
https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/behind-the-enemy-line/article22360673.ece

 

[Hornbill]

^ I think those those places are not even accessible for normal Pakistan citizens

 

[Lonewarrior]

A Kashmir minus troops



Full article https://www.telegraphindia.com/indi...2.1830024053.1577827907-1125170495.1577827906

Thanks. Looks like the journalist was Kashmiri himself. For some reason I thought he was Indian.

Thnaks.

Thanks!!!!

welcome.

I don't know how you are going to react after reading this
https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/behind-the-enemy-line/article22360673.ece

^ I think those those places are not even accessible for normal Pakistan citizens

he was journalist and guest of Pak army, he was allowed by Pak army. thats enough to understand. nothing to see here.
i am concern about common civilian traveling from indian side ....

 

[Hornbill]

Thnaks.



welcome.





he was journalist and guest of Pak army, he was allowed by Pak army. thats enough to understand. nothing to see here.
i am concern about common civilian traveling from indian side ....

so you aren't concerned about army taking an Indian journalist to places of strategic importance

 

[ElRaja]

Minor correction: integrated into J&K by the Dogras, after they broke away from the Sikh Empire.

From what I’ve read, the locals resented not just being ruled by the Dogras, but also being potentially ruled by Kashmiris after the Dogras. That said, the fact that we haven’t declared them a fully-fledged province yet suggests we do consider it part of the dispute.

yes, i should have qualified what i meant, i mean in the spirit of the actual territories, most Pakistani's do not think GB is disputed nor do they consider it to be part of kashmir, either geographically, demographically or culturally, however in a political context it is still considered disputed to maintain the status quo regarding the kashmir issue.

 

[Lonewarrior]

On a related topic, what are the options for an Indian like me to visit Pakistan if I want to do that in few years time? I know the relation is volatile now but these things continue in cycles and won't be surprised if suddenly there is resumption of exchanges between the two countries after few years. If and when that happens, is there any official group that kind of facilitates such visit. I am interested more in the historical places and will like to visit Lahore, Multan, Peshawar, Hyderabad and Karachi(you can suggest other places). Gilgit would have been nice but understand the sensitivity due to politics between the two countries, so will cut it down.

you need sponsors to get visa, also thre are some official travel groups who can sponsor you and if you have some kind of educational background, like working or studying in any Universities, or any kind of religious pilgrimage etc, you mostly like to gt visa, but it will be 50/50 chances, but you need to mention your itinerary plan, cities you want to visit etc. but keep in mind they wont allow you to go beyond Islamabad .... you cant visit interior sindh or punjab ... only Big cities, like karachi, lahore etc
Peshawar is out of question .... even having sponsors ....
for more detials you need to contact Pakistani embassy ...

Even I would love to visit Pakistan. My passport is non Indian but am of Indian origin. I don’t know I can visit most of the cities because of my country of origin.

you can get visa easily with having non-indian passport, but you need some sponsors also you have to mention your itinerary plan , but you also wont be allowed to go beyond Islamabad....

for more detials you need to contact Pakistani embassy ...

so you aren't concerned about army taking an Indian journalist to places of strategic importance

No, becoz i know that Army knows where to take him or not .... also he had the company with him 24 hours ....
btw, the journalists from BBC, CNN, Aljeezera etc are allowed to go anywhere in Pakistan except some Parts of AJK, Balochistan and Pak/Afg border etc ....

 

[leg-side-flick]

you need sponsors to get visa, also thre are some official travel groups who can sponsor you and if you have some kind of educational background, like working or studying in any Universities, or any kind of religious pilgrimage etc, you mostly like to gt visa, but it will be 50/50 chances, but you need to mention your itinerary plan, cities you want to visit etc. but keep in mind they wont allow you to go beyond Islamabad .... you cant visit interior sindh or punjab ... only Big cities, like karachi, lahore etc
Peshawar is out of question .... even having sponsors ....
for more detials you need to contact Pakistani embassy ...





you can get visa easily with having non-indian passport, but you need some sponsors also you have to mention your itinerary plan , but you also wont be allowed to go beyond Islamabad....

for more detials you need to contact Pakistani embassy ...




No, becoz i know that Army knows where to take him or not .... also he had the company with him 24 hours ....
btw, the journalists from BBC, CNN, Aljeezera etc are allowed to go anywhere in Pakistan except some Parts of AJK, Balochistan and Pak/Afg border etc ....

Hi Lonewarrior, thanks for replies and just one last question, I am intrigued by what lies beyond Islamabad that Indians are not allowed to see.

 

[RajBan]

you need sponsors to get visa, also thre are some official travel groups who can sponsor you and if you have some kind of educational background, like working or studying in any Universities, or any kind of religious pilgrimage etc, you mostly like to gt visa, but it will be 50/50 chances, but you need to mention your itinerary plan, cities you want to visit etc. but keep in mind they wont allow you to go beyond Islamabad .... you cant visit interior sindh or punjab ... only Big cities, like karachi, lahore etc
Peshawar is out of question .... even having sponsors ....
for more detials you need to contact Pakistani embassy ...

Thanks. What is a sponsor in this context?

Also I am not a journalist or student. So can't go on University invitation. Myself and people coming with me will be purely as a tourist group.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Hi Lonewarrior, thanks for replies and just one last question, I am intrigued by what lies beyond Islamabad that Indians are not allowed to see.

GB and AJK , also CPEC, every journalists or tourist can go thre with permission except Indians .....

Thanks. What is a sponsor in this context?

Also I am not a journalist or student. So can't go on University invitation. Myself and people coming with me will be purely as a tourist group.

the sponsor means, if you know someone from Pakistan, relative or friend/Business friend or want to go for religious pilgrimage etc ....
if not thn you can also get sponsors from some official travels groups here, but they will charge handsome amount of money .....

thre are some articles -

2012-

https://usindiamonitor.com/2012/07/08/eye-opener-an-indian-american-visits-pakistan/

2017-

https://www.dawn.com/news/1340543

 

[leg-side-flick]

GB and AJK , also CPEC, every journalists or tourist can go thre with permission except Indians .....

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Thanks, it's just for security reasons then.... Thanks for patiently answering questions....

 

[KingKhanWC]

Im sure he was questioned upon arrival. The world should visit Pakistan but Indians entering must be strictly monitored. India is responsible for thousands of deaths in Pakistan.

 

[RajBan]

the sponsor means, if you know someone from Pakistan, relative or friend/Business friend or want to go for religious pilgrimage etc ....
if not thn you can also get sponsors from some official travels groups here, but they will charge handsome amount of money .....

thre are some articles -

2012-

https://usindiamonitor.com/2012/07/08/eye-opener-an-indian-american-visits-pakistan/

2017-

https://www.dawn.com/news/1340543

Hey..Thank you for your inputs. Both the links are awesome read as well.

 

[IndianHero]

Why was he allowed to visit Gilgit? Pakistani citizens and people of Pakistani origin aren't allowed to visit Indian-occupied Kashmir.

Incorrect ! Please don't assume so. I myself, I have been to srinagar couple of times. I have seen and met couple of pakistanis in srinagar , kashmir in 2014. If u still don't believe it I can post pictures here with my & his face blurred/removed (which I don't want to)

I am not sure if they are issuing visas since aug 5th 2019 due to obvious reasons.

 

[Slog]

Incorrect ! Please don't assume so. I myself, I have been to srinagar couple of times. I have seen and met couple of pakistanis in srinagar , kashmir in 2014. If u still don't believe it I can post pictures here with my & his face blurred/removed (which I don't want to)

I am not sure if they are issuing visas since aug 5th 2019 due to obvious reasons.

Those are indian Kashmiris who call themselves Pakistanis.

Pakistanis cannot go to any Indian city without permission. When visa is given Pakistanis are given visa for cities rather than free movement and every city they have to
Go to police station and register their arrival and do same when departing.

Often cities are not allowed and Kashmir is not allowed for sure.

 

[Pakistanian]

Incorrect ! Please don't assume so. I myself, I have been to srinagar couple of times. I have seen and met couple of pakistanis in srinagar , kashmir in 2014. If u still don't believe it I can post pictures here with my & his face blurred/removed (which I don't want to)

I am not sure if they are issuing visas since aug 5th 2019 due to obvious reasons.

Lmao no those were def Kashmiris trying to **** you off. Pakistanis and people of Pakistani descent regardless of what passport they hold can't visit Indian occuped Kashmir. They would never get permission.

 

[Slog]

Lmao no those were def Kashmiris trying to **** you off. Pakistanis and people of Pakistani descent regardless of what passport they hold can't visit Indian occuped Kashmir. They would never get permission.

Lol yea I met one in US he would just call himself Kashmiri and would support pak team etc. I thought he’s from AJK and found out few months later he’s indian citizen

 

[m.shah]

Incorrect ! Please don't assume so. I myself, I have been to srinagar couple of times. I have seen and met couple of pakistanis in srinagar , kashmir in 2014. If u still don't believe it I can post pictures here with my & his face blurred/removed (which I don't want to)

I am not sure if they are issuing visas since aug 5th 2019 due to obvious reasons.

Itz next to impossible to get visa for Pakistani national to visit IOK. I myself haven't seen any Pakistani here in IOK.

 

[Lonewarrior]

just find out, the vlogger in the OP visited with non-Indian Passport ....

 

[Lonewarrior]

BOMBAY TO KARACHI - Indian Visits Pakistan

 

[cric_man]

Incorrect ! Please don't assume so. I myself, I have been to srinagar couple of times. I have seen and met couple of pakistanis in srinagar , kashmir in 2014. If u still don't believe it I can post pictures here with my & his face blurred/removed (which I don't want to)

I am not sure if they are issuing visas since aug 5th 2019 due to obvious reasons.

I am a US citizen, I work for one of the biggest tech companies here in Seattle. I can't get a visa to visit Bangalore on company business let alone Occupied Kashmir. Even when my application was accompanied by letters from my senior leadership the application was rejected without and reason. Which is fine by me, I like to see all my Indian team members squirm and try to apologetic. My team had to move a major team event from Bangalore to Luxembourg because of me

 

[ahsan17]

just find out, the vlogger in the OP visited with non-Indian Passport ....

Pakistan allows this, presumably because non resident Indians can't hold more than one passport. So if they are a citizen of other countries, they can use the passport of those countries. India AFAIK demands you apply through a Pakistani passport.

 

[Hornbill]

No, becoz i know that Army knows where to take him or not .... also he had the company with him 24 hours ....
btw, the journalists from BBC, CNN, Aljeezera etc are allowed to go anywhere in Pakistan except some Parts of AJK, Balochistan and Pak/Afg border etc ....

Visa norms were violated, according to the author if it's not a big deal if it's done with the help of army.This guy is not a normal journalist so there's not point in comparing him with others.

 

[Hornbill]

Lmao no those were def Kashmiris trying to **** you off. Pakistanis and people of Pakistani descent regardless of what passport they hold can't visit Indian occuped Kashmir. They would never get permission.

What about kashmiris living on the other side of loc are they not pakistanis.Don't know about the present status of cross loc bus services but those were operational before six months.

 

[Pakistanian]

What about kashmiris living on the other side of loc are they not pakistanis.Don't know about the present status of cross loc bus services but those were operational before six months.

Perhaps but only a few of them would be allowed across the LoC.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Another indian blogger in pakistan

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[WebGuru]

Another indian blogger in pakistan

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There are many indian vloggers videos now on youtube from Kartarpur a few even used Drone Camera so i guess they were given the permission to use them.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

These vloggers/tourists are a slap on the faces of all those people who love to paint Pakistan as a bad place.

It is clear that an average Pakistani doesn't hold grudges towards Indians.

In Sha Allah, more Indian vloggers will visit Pakistan this year and expose blatant lies being written against Pakistan and its peoples.