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[VIDEO] Shan Masood 2.0 - Performance Watch

He has impressed me taking his team to the final against all odds and played a few good innings and hasnt been selfish
 
Captain Shan leading from the front for Southern Punjab today vs Northern in the QEA Trophy, he's 80* (120) so far.
 
One thing is for certain - it's Afridi who is leading the Multan Sultans team on the field. Every decision, Masood is turning to Afridi for advice and to make the decision.
 
Awful innings today of 27 off 22 balls.

No aggression and only built pressure on his team.
 
One good innings in England and an absolute liability since. There is a reason this guy averages 30 and that reason is that he's utter trash. Even Yasir Shah has a century in Australia but it doesn't mean we start celebrating him as the next Donald Bradman.

To think some posters have been arguing that this hopeless man should be captain is just laughable. Pakistani fans are too easily impressed by someone who can speak English and is well spoken. It takes more than that to be an international batsman never mind a captain. The sooner he leaves this team the better.
 
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Usman said:
One good innings in England and an absolute liability since. There is a reason this guy averages 30 and that reason is that he's utter trash. Even Yasir Shah has a century in Australia but it doesn't mean we start celebrating him as the next Donald Bradman.

To think some posters have been arguing that this hopeless man should be captain is just laughable. Pakistani fans are too easily impressed by someone who can speak English and is well spoken. It takes more than that to be an international batsman never mind a captain. The sooner he leaves this team the better.
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Should be dropped -
 
Usman said:
One good innings in England and an absolute liability since. There is a reason this guy averages 30 and that reason is that he's utter trash. Even Yasir Shah has a century in Australia but it doesn't mean we start celebrating him as the next Donald Bradman.

To think some posters have been arguing that this hopeless man should be captain is just laughable. Pakistani fans are too easily impressed by someone who can speak English and is well spoken. It takes more than that to be an international batsman never mind a captain. The sooner he leaves this team the better.
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Shan "Parchi" Masood, the greatest hard worker and the fittest player in this entire team has yet to play a few solid shots.

That average of 30 is as deceiving as it gets.

I think about 80% of his runs come from edges that flew pass the slip area.

Those who understand cricket, clearly see that he is the weakest of the weak top order batsman that Pakistan has ever produced. Even Imran Farhat had better bat speed and he would once in a while fiercely tried to go after the ball. But this guy is something else. He moves in slow motion and has cringe worthy posture and approach to the game.
 
Usman said:
One good innings in England and an absolute liability since. There is a reason this guy averages 30 and that reason is that he's utter trash. Even Yasir Shah has a century in Australia but it doesn't mean we start celebrating him as the next Donald Bradman.

To think some posters have been arguing that this hopeless man should be captain is just laughable. Pakistani fans are too easily impressed by someone who can speak English and is well spoken. It takes more than that to be an international batsman never mind a captain. The sooner he leaves this team the better.
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Cant remember how many lives he took to reach that 150 in England. Absolute rubbish
 
Noman said:
Should be dropped -
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Absolutely and immediately after this tour. We cannot waste more time with this hack.

Colorblind Genius said:
Shan "Parchi" Masood, the greatest hard worker and the fittest player in this entire team has yet to play a few solid shots.

That average of 30 is as deceiving as it gets.

I think about 80% of his runs come from edges that flew pass the slip area.

Those who understand cricket, clearly see that he is the weakest of the weak top order batsman that Pakistan has ever produced. Even Imran Farhat had better bat speed and he would once in a while fiercely tried to go after the ball. But this guy is something else. He moves in slow motion and has cringe worthy posture and approach to the game.
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Pakistan has a long history of producing weak openers and I agree Shan is right up there.

Take that first innings dismissal - the commentators were all saying oh how unlucky to be caught down the leg side. Except anyone who has followed Shan's career will know that is not unlucky AT ALL - this is just one of the ways in which Shan regularly gets out. His balance is TOTALLY wrong when playing that shot and that is the reason why he repeatedly nicks it behind down the leg side. The only "bad luck" is that of us poor Pakistani fans who have to suffer with this hack.

Ahmed216 said:
Cant remember how many lives he took to reach that 150 in England. Absolute rubbish
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Absolutely agree. Add to this his totally flawed slip fielding technique which matches his batting technique. He does not get low enough which means yet again his weight distribution is all wrong. He was the culprit when several slip chances were missed including Williamson - although they appeared "tough", they were made to look that way because Shan did not give himself the extra milliseconds you get from being in the right position.

Just an all round joke cricketer who is not international standard by any means. Please just leave this team Shan and end our suffering.
 
Thought he'd become half decent since he returned in South Africa but 31 runs in his last 7 innings is club level stuff. Goodbye
 
I think maybe 2-3 or more chances then we can call it a day. He deserves a long rope.
 
Showed a lot of intelligence and character with another hard working duck.

Make him captain.

Has his Test average reached 32 yet? Remember, we are told he is massively improved and he is going through a great run of form.
 
On a serious note, this guy has zero talent. At the top level in any sports, hard work will only take you so far. It complements natural ability; it is not a substitute for it.

Masood will never been good enough to be a consistent player at this level.
 
Mamoon said:
On a serious note, this guy has zero talent. At the top level in any sports, hard work will only take you so far. It complements natural ability; it is not a substitute for it.

Masood will never been good enough to be a consistent player at this level.
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I don't say this very often but Mamoon you are absolutely right. This guy is trash and the odd score here and there shouldn't be used to justify his selection forever. Faheem scored 91 in the match but it doesn't mean he's suddenly a batting genius. In the same way, Pakistani fans should not use Shaan's once in a blue moon scores to justify his abject failure 99% of the time.
 
Sami Aslam left for America and Imam is doing commentary, but both have higher ceilings and will average more than 35 after getting consistent chances for 7 years now.

Masood has been hanging around since 2013 SA series in UAE and in spite of his so-called purple patch from 2019 onwards, he still cannot get his average beyond 32.

A nothing player. That hundred in England was a complete fluke.
 
Mamoon said:
Sami Aslam left for America and Imam is doing commentary, but both have higher ceilings and will average more than 35 after getting consistent chances for 7 years now.

Masood has been hanging around since 2013 SA series in UAE and in spite of his so-called purple patch from 2019 onwards, he still cannot get his average beyond 32.

A nothing player. That hundred in England was a complete fluke.
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Not only a fluke, he was dropped twice or thrice in that innings.

This guy is not even the best among the average / below average openers available. Thats how useless he is.
 
Mamoon said:
On a serious note, this guy has zero talent. At the top level in any sports, hard work will only take you so far. It complements natural ability; it is not a substitute for it.

Masood will never been good enough to be a consistent player at this level.
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Seriously, this notion of hard work of SM is a mystery. I posted the following but didn’t receive a compelling and solid evidence based reply.

And you are right. At this level, hard work is an absolute must but hard work alone is not enough. Together with hard work, one must have some good natural talent to be competing in the intl arena.
And this is specially evident when he bowls.
He would send one wide outside the off stump and the batsman will leave it. And Shan Masood would squeeze his lips in whistling style with hands on his head, looking anxiously to the keeper as if saying, “Ohhh wow,, did you see that banana swing? I pitched it on the leg stump and it went a centimeter over the bail on the off stump.”


Colorblind Genius said:
This notion of "hard work" being made synonymous with Shan Masood is interesting.

I am genuinely curious.

How exactly do you define "hard work" for a national level cricketer that sets him apart from the rest?

I say, perhaps Kohli is a hard worker.
Is Shan Masood in the same league of hard work as Kohli? Or his fans look at the bulging tummy of Yasir Shah, and compare it with Shan Masood, and arrive at the conclusion that Shan Masood must be working hard?

Seriously,
Has he been uploading his work out videos and daily practice drills for the past few years where he is getting advice from the coaches and documenting improvement?

Or it's primarily a word of mouth that we hear from different quarters that "Shan Masood is working hard"?

In my view, he appears to have a very fragile technical skill as a batsman. And physically as a sportsman, he looks a bit fragile as well.

Where is the display of "hard work"? Does he have a lot of stamina? Is he a very fast runner? Is he an extra quick fielder?
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Colorblind Genius said:
Seriously, this notion of hard work of SM is a mystery. I posted the following but didn’t receive a compelling and solid evidence based reply.

And you are right. At this level, hard work is an absolute must but hard work alone is not enough. Together with hard work, one must have some good natural talent to be competing in the intl arena.
And this is specially evident when he bowls.
He would send one wide outside the off stump and the batsman will leave it. And Shan Masood would squeeze his lips in whistling style with hands on his head, looking anxiously to the keeper as if saying, “Ohhh wow,, did you see that banana swing? I pitched it on the leg stump and it went a centimeter over the bail on the off stump.”
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This what his fans keep telling us and perhaps it is true to an extent. He does have better work ethic compared to other Pakistani players, and he also worked with a renowned batting coach in England who worked with successful Test players like Cook and Bell, and apparently paid for his services from his pocket.

Masood wants to do well, he knows he has shortcomings and he is eager to address them. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have the ability to do it.

If this guy had the work ethic of someone like Haris, he would probably be averaging 15 in Test cricket. On the contrary, if Haris had the determination that he does, he would probably be averaging 50.

People might go overboard with this whole hardworking stuff, but I would say that it is true to a good extent.

Nevertheless, it is abundantly clear that he needs to be discarded permanently. The talk of making him captain were ridiculous.
 
Masood was averaging 26 before the 2019 tour of SA, because of his purple patch he lifted his average to 32. His dismissal in the first innings was unlucky but second innings was unforgivable as he should have predicted what Southee was trying to do by bowling both swings at him
 
Another time when his team needed him and another failure.

Surely there has to be better options.
 
What are the other options? Things are really bleak when both your openers are as bad as each other.

We are practically starting every innings at 2 down.
 
And the experts were clamouring for this hack to be made captain. I remember being attacked arguing that guy is a hack.

Bang average and an absolute liability. Thank the heavens he wasn't appointed captain.
 
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That shot today was not worthy of someone who has played 24 Test matches.

Absolute nothing shot, catching practice to the slips.

Feet nowhere, head nowhere. A cowardly shot.
 
Averages 38.71 since his comeback as an opener and that has included tests in SA, England, NZ and Australia. Only Babar and Rizwan have scored at a higher average and rizwan doesn't face the new ball. Bit too early to criticise Shan Masood 2.0?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Averages 38.71 since his comeback as an opener and that has included tests in SA, England, NZ and Australia. Only Babar and Rizwan have scored at a higher average and rizwan doesn't face the new ball. Bit too early to criticise Shan Masood 2.0?
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Look closer. His 100 against England tricked us all into thinking this was actually Shaan V2.0. He did however have 2 lives during that knock - and simple chances that Buttler let go from what I remember. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt there - since then he has been abysmal. A 100 followed by some innings of substance, especially here when needed, would have convinced us that he is doing a good job. However since that 100 VS England its been innings after innings of poor dismissals. Nothing seems to have changed and it seems he still isn't good enough.
 
Osman said:
Look closer. His 100 against England tricked us all into thinking this was actually Shaan V2.0. He did however have 2 lives during that knock - and simple chances that Buttler let go from what I remember. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt there - since then he has been abysmal. A 100 followed by some innings of substance, especially here when needed, would have convinced us that he is doing a good job. However since that 100 VS England its been innings after innings of poor dismissals. Nothing seems to have changed and it seems he still isn't good enough.
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Any viable alternatives as opener from domestic?
 
We have someone in the squad I believe. Imran Butt - won't know if we don't try.
 
If Shan Plays in the SA series, we’re screwed for another 1-2 years. Another year of watching this guy bat, I think I may end up breaking my tv.

It’s time for Imam to step up. I’d also love to see Shehzad back one last time for TESTS only.
 
Ucdkee said:
Really need to understand what has he done to be called Shan Masood 2.0
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He “transitioned” into a white ball player in domestic T20’s which is why they brought him into the T20 internationals. He failed in the T20i’s, so they thought it’d be a good idea to bring him in the test team.
 
Imam needs to be given another go, he has got better technique than these two tail enders. Not expecting wonders from him but better than these two.
 
PCB needs to set up a test series with Zimbabwe, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka ASAP to get Shan back in the running for Wisden's 2021 team
 
shah_1 said:
Imam needs to be given another go, he has got better technique than these two tail enders. Not expecting wonders from him but better than these two.
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Remember how bad he was on Aus tour? A walking wicket
 
Let me tell you something, the only reason some people on here like(d) him was because he could speak English.

Honestly I've never seen a more undeserving player to open the innings for us in Tests.

The man is a complete joke, and his partner at the other end isn't any better.

We have the worst opening pair in the game, and the quicker some fans stop their bias the better for all of us.
 
Osman said:
Remember how bad he was on Aus tour? A walking wicket
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He played only one match that was pink ball and also against best attack in the world. I still feel than he is better than Shan and Abid.
 
shah_1 said:
He played only one match that was pink ball and also against best attack in the world. I still feel than he is better than Shan and Abid.
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While we talking about rubbish players let’s add Haris Sohail to this category, after he cowardly opted out of the England tour, what did he do since then to warrant a place in this starting 11?
 
An average of 30.62 after 24 Test matches. Simply not good enough numbers.

Imran Farhat had a better average.
Imran Nazir had a better average
Shahid Afridi had a better average
 
It’s a shame but part of me wants Shan and Abid to flop in second test so maybe the new selector looks at different options, I’m only really aware of Imam and Imran Butt as possible options, who else is knocking on the door for the opening positions
 
shah_1 said:
He played only one match that was pink ball and also against best attack in the world. I still feel than he is better than Shan and Abid.
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exactly he should be given a run abid was given the england tour which wasnt that great hes given the new zealand tour wich so far has been poor.he has had enough chances and must be dropped.Imaam should be given a run now
 
Colorblind Genius said:
Shan "Parchi" Masood, the greatest hard worker and the fittest player in this entire team has yet to play a few solid shots.

That average of 30 is as deceiving as it gets.

I think about 80% of his runs come from edges that flew pass the slip area.

Those who understand cricket, clearly see that he is the weakest of the weak top order batsman that Pakistan has ever produced. Even Imran Farhat had better bat speed and he would once in a while fiercely tried to go after the ball. But this guy is something else. He moves in slow motion and has cringe worthy posture and approach to the game.
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Watched him live in Karachi test against SL. Majority of his runs were behind the wicket. Tbf most were controlled but what it shows is limited confidence and shot taking ability against a pop gun attack. Abid looked like Sachin in front of him with his shot variety and control.
 
Shan Masood and Wajahatullah Wasti are the least talented cricketers I have ever seen in international cricket.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Imran Khan jr (the slow t20 bowler) says hi
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I think T20s you will see many cricketers who are out of place. Standard to be selected is much lower. But usually when you are selected for test cricket you are considered a more complete talent.
 
Slog said:
I think T20s you will see many cricketers who are out of place. Standard to be selected is much lower. But usually when you are selected for test cricket you are considered a more complete talent.
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He should've said Test cricket
 
Counting down to an average of below 30 for Shan 2.0

I'll give it 2 more Tests till his average is in the 20's
 
coy0607 said:
Counting down to an average of below 30 for Shan 2.0

I'll give it 2 more Tests till his average is in the 20's
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The next test series is in Pak against SA, he’ll probably secure his spot for another 2 years if he performs there.
 
Both openers are pathetic and need to be replaced as soon as possible.
Azhar Ali should open and need to find his partner.
 
Imam averages 25 despite nearly a third of his Tests being in UAE. Imran Butt never averaged above 40 in a FC season until 19/20 on dead flat pitches where every batsman cashed in.

Sharjeel is the highest scoring opener in the QEA Trophy but isn't even being considered for white ball cricket. Others like Zain Abbas and Israrullah are domestic journeymen. Ali Zaryab and Omair Yousuf aren't ready. Sami Aslam ran away and his constipated batting isn't anything to pine for.

So there's no silver bullet.
 
His struggles since the start of his career around that 4th-5th stump keep popping up here and there and in the meantime he also looses his balance sometimes when ball is on the legside. He has failed to in cash on confidence and form since a decent century in Eng.
 
I think this Abid Ali and Shan Masood opening partnership is probably amongst the worst there has been in recent times for Pakistan.

I'm sure they'll look great on a flat deck against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, but put them in front of any decent bowling attack on a sporting track and they will both fail 9 times out of 10.

So many technical weaknesses in them - what are the domestic batting coaches doing with these guys?
 
Saj said:
I think this Abid Ali and Shan Masood opening partnership is probably amongst the worst there has been in recent times for Pakistan.

I'm sure they'll look great on a flat deck against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, but put them in front of any decent bowling attack on a sporting track and they will both fail 9 times out of 10.

So many technical weaknesses in them - what are the domestic batting coaches doing with these guys?
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To be fair to Shaan - he did ok in Australia, century in England and also did ok in South Africa last year. Abid Ali has proven he is nothing but a FTB
 
ask_analyse_act said:
He avgs 36 in domestic fc, been playing since 2012 no idea why he was selected and Usman Salahuddin wasn’t
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Its not like we are brimming with options. He can't do any worse than the current clowns so might as well throw him in and find out. Right now an opener that can average 36 at test level would do tbh.
 
Let’s see if he can deliver in the next Test to keep his place in the Wisden Team of the year 2021.
 
Saj said:
I think this Abid Ali and Shan Masood opening partnership is probably amongst the worst there has been in recent times for Pakistan.

I'm sure they'll look great on a flat deck against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, but put them in front of any decent bowling attack on a sporting track and they will both fail 9 times out of 10.

So many technical weaknesses in them - what are the domestic batting coaches doing with these guys?
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Pakistan has definitely had more than their fair share of awful openers in the last decade; Imran Farhat, Shehzad, Sami Aslam, Khurram Manzoor, Yasir Hameed to name a few.

What stings the most about the Abid and Shan pair is that they are approaching their mid-30's. Historically openers aren't just close to the end of their prime by that age, they are past it.

Greame Smith, Cook, Gayle, Strauss, Shehwag, Gambhir, Dilshan, etc - all retired from Test around ages of 33-35
 
Osman said:
To be fair to Shaan - he did ok in Australia, century in England and also did ok in South Africa last year. Abid Ali has proven he is nothing but a FTB
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Yes but what about all of the failures. Look at his overall numbers, they are nothing short of average and mediocre.
 
Saj said:
Yes but what about all of the failures. Look at his overall numbers, they are nothing short of average and mediocre.
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He's the best of the bad bunch. Not many other options tbh
 
Osman said:
He's the best of the bad bunch. Not many other options tbh
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And that's one of the reasons why Pakistan is such a poor Test team at the moment.

Mediocrity being accepted due to a lack of alternatives.
 
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Interestingly he is named in Cricinfos team of the year though that isn't saying much. On paper at least he had amongst the best stats for openers in 2020.
 
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And that's one of the reasons why Pakistan is such a poor Test team at the moment.

Mediocrity being accepted due to a lack of alternatives.
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What else can we do though? Is there absolutely noone in domestic that is a decent opening option?
 
Time to try someone else. He has been given a lot of chances and not delivered on a consistent basis. He won't get any better at his age, so time to try someone else.
 
He has now been named in ESPNCRICINFO XI after finding a place in Wisden Team of the year.

More humiliation for the haters.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
He has now been named in ESPNCRICINFO XI after finding a place in Wisden Team of the year.

More humiliation for the haters.
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Lol on what basis? He avges 38 since his comeback Take out bangladesh n sri lanka the avge plummets to 26 since 2018

Hes as medicore as they come Its time pakistan looked elsewhere
 
Hasan123 said:
Time to try someone else. He has been given a lot of chances and not delivered on a consistent basis. He won't get any better at his age, so time to try someone else.
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I’ll say this we can’t go change happy for the next series and just need to think things through. Too many changes can backfire and allow comebacks of these guys.

If Abid produces nothing significant in the next match he should be dropped, Haris Sohail is a drop based on fitness, Azhar Ali perhaps should be retained and Naseem Shah needs more time in domestic.
 
I was a backer of Shan Masood after a hard working if not spectacular 2019. Unfortunately he has regressed badly this year after initially scoring 156 vs England in the 1st Test.

His scores since then have been: 0, 1, 4, 18, 10, 0. This is unacceptable by any metric and doesn't bode well going forward.

I think its time for his removal as opening batsmen need to score some runs as well as blunt the new ball. If he can't even reach 20, then it's unlikely he's doing much of the latter either.
 
At least his fans will not stop talking about his average of XYZ since 2018-2019.

That average of XYZ is continuously plummeting.
 
Shoaibbtt said:
I’ll say this we can’t go change happy for the next series and just need to think things through. Too many changes can backfire and allow comebacks of these guys.

If Abid produces nothing significant in the next match he should be dropped, Haris Sohail is a drop based on fitness, Azhar Ali perhaps should be retained and Naseem Shah needs more time in domestic.
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Shan Masood has a long spell of not being dropped. He has done nothing to earn another series.
 
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