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[VIDEO] "The tea is fantastic": Captured Indian pilot Abhinandan

False flag Pulwama? And they he says with a straight face that he wants good relations with India.

India wont mind when it knows its true.

Are there any recent interviews from Abhinandan ? Ive yet to hear his full side of the story. Is he still flying jets or only kites now?
 
India wont mind when it knows its true.

Are there any recent interviews from Abhinandan ? Ive yet to hear his full side of the story. Is he still flying jets or only kites now?

Abhinandan has lots of time left for an interview. Did General Niazi ever give any interview telling his side of the story after 1971?
 
Abhinandan has lots of time left for an interview. Did General Niazi ever give any interview telling his side of the story after 1971?

I have no idea as I wasnt born and this isnt a history thread.

Hmm, I think India want to hide some facts which he may expose. What's he up to now, bit of Bollywood or has he become a traitor and now works for Lipton Tea. :)))
 
I have no idea as I wasnt born and this isnt a history thread.

Hmm, I think India want to hide some facts which he may expose. What's he up to now, bit of Bollywood or has he become a traitor and now works for Lipton Tea. :)))

History is what defines a nation. Just because you weren't born then doesn't mean it didn't happen. 90,000 POW vs 1 POW. You can take your pick.

Regarding Abhinandan, I have no idea what he is upto. Haven't heard any news about him in a long time.
 
History is what defines a nation. Just because you weren't born then doesn't mean it didn't happen. 90,000 POW vs 1 POW. You can take your pick.

Regarding Abhinandan, I have no idea what he is upto. Haven't heard any news about him in a long time.

But you never go back to the Kashmir war where according to the Indian government, Pakistan conquered nearly half of Indias Kashmir and still holds this to this day!



They must not want him in the public eye because he will say he was treated well with cups of chai and may also expose some lies such as India hit some militants when they only bombed trees.
 
Thread title makes me want to enjoy some fantastic tea.

Jokes aside, he should be grateful Pakistan set him free quickly. Many other countries probably would've imprisoned him.
 
Thread title makes me want to enjoy some fantastic tea.

Jokes aside, he should be grateful Pakistan set him free quickly. Many other countries probably would've imprisoned him.

I really dont know how people can drink 'English tea' , they just dump milk on top , stir it and drink it.

India want to increase their tea sales across the globe, why not have their pilot as the main sales manager?:afridi1
 
But you never go back to the Kashmir war where according to the Indian government, Pakistan conquered nearly half of Indias Kashmir and still holds this to this day!

We never go back there simply because we aren't obsessed with PoK. It's in recent times that some people have started talking about capturing it, but historically we have never even laid eyes on it. Even now any sensible Indian knows that PoK will never be a part of India.

It's you who have been obsessed with Indian Kashmir since 1947, so much that you even started 2 wars to grab it forcefully. Guess what, it's been 75 years and we still have Kashmir. You on the other hand because of your obsession lost half of your land in the process.
 
As per new reports tea is such a luxary item in Pakistan that if Abhinandan was captured today Pakistan could not even afford to serve him tea.

By the way Pakistan was not magnaminous in looking after him and setting him free. As per Geneva convention it was Pakistan's duty to treat war prisoners with respect.

For those who give a lame excuse that the 90000 soldiers who surrendered was history well history means events that occurred in the past. Even this incident too is history. As for the 1947 Kashmir invasion that is one of the reason for the downfall of Congress today. The Kashmir issue that wasn't resolved then is like a ever bleeding wound till date.
 
As per new reports tea is such a luxary item in Pakistan that if Abhinandan was captured today Pakistan could not even afford to serve him tea.

By the way Pakistan was not magnaminous in looking after him and setting him free. As per Geneva convention it was Pakistan's duty to treat war prisoners with respect.

For those who give a lame excuse that the 90000 soldiers who surrendered was history well history means events that occurred in the past. Even this incident too is history. As for the 1947 Kashmir invasion that is one of the reason for the downfall of Congress today. The Kashmir issue that wasn't resolved then is like a ever bleeding wound till date.

Dont believe this, there is plenty of tea in Pakistan. There is so much Pak can would be happy to give every Indian soldier a cup, as long as they visit again soon. :)

Prisoners of war should be treated well but Pakistan released him very quickly, they could have held him for longer if they wished. You should respect Pakistan for doing so not be arrogant about it.

Battles are won and are lost but taking land is much bigger. India for the rest of eternity will see 'its land' occupied by Pakistan. ITs best it gives up this pipedream of taking it back and make peace.
 
Dont believe this, there is plenty of tea in Pakistan. There is so much Pak can would be happy to give every Indian soldier a cup, as long as they visit again soon. :)

Prisoners of war should be treated well but Pakistan released him very quickly, they could have held him for longer if they wished. You should respect Pakistan for doing so not be arrogant about it.

Battles are won and are lost but taking land is much bigger. India for the rest of eternity will see 'its land' occupied by Pakistan. ITs best it gives up this pipedream of taking it back and make peace.

Thanks for brazenly acknowledging that the land belonged to India and Pakistan is occupying it. I personally don't mind if both countries reach an agreement to maintain status quo and make the Line of control as the permanent border but unfortunately I dont think neither the Indian government nor the Pakistan amry will accept it.
 
Thanks for brazenly acknowledging that the land belonged to India and Pakistan is occupying it. I personally don't mind if both countries reach an agreement to maintain status quo and make the Line of control as the permanent border but unfortunately I dont think neither the Indian government nor the Pakistan amry will accept it.

Im giving you the Indian view not mine on Kashmir.

Why not allow the people to vote for independence or choose either India or Pakistan? As per their right under Int law.
 
Im giving you the Indian view not mine on Kashmir.

Why not allow the people to vote for independence or choose either India or Pakistan? As per their right under Int law.

Hope you are aware of the preconditions for the plebicite.

In the first step, Pakistan was asked to withdraw all its nationals that entered Kashmir for the sake of fighting. In the second step, India was asked to progressively reduce its forces to the minimum level required for law and order. In the third step, India was asked to appoint a plebiscite administrator nominated by the United Nations who would conduct a free and impartial plebiscite.

For first remove your army out of PoK and then request the UN or India about the plebicite. If you stay in Pakistan then make some time and go to the GHQ in Rawalpindi and demand them to move out of Kashmir so that you can ask India to reduce its troops.
 
As requested :D

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good stuff by Tapal :))
 
Thread title makes me want to enjoy some fantastic tea.

Jokes aside, he should be grateful Pakistan set him free quickly. Many other countries probably would've imprisoned him.

not really. Pakistan setting him free was an indication to the world that Pakistan is weak and cannot fight a war. Although, politically, it was united for once, but it exposed itself that it cant really get involve in a war.

India could had built on this narrative, but they did not. They were embarrassed by the capture of their pilot, thus the narrative they built was that he destroyed our imaginary planes. They could had built a narrative that look they captured our guy and yet released him cause of our flexing.

India was in a mood to go for a war.

The Abhinandan incident was one hilarious one though. Because it messed with the Indian ego sooo much that they ended up blowing their own helicopter and killing their top men :))). Thats how desperate they were that they could also target oe of our assets. The friendly fire w hilarious
 
Thanks for brazenly acknowledging that the land belonged to India and Pakistan is occupying it. I personally don't mind if both countries reach an agreement to maintain status quo and make the Line of control as the permanent border but unfortunately I dont think neither the Indian government nor the Pakistan amry will accept it.

Pakistan would probably accept that, but they would want kargil, Srinagar and siachen, and Nehru was ready to agree on that, but Pakistan did not as they had a chance to get the whole area in a whole plebiscite. If a plebiscite ever takes place, it would be region wise now and we would only get these areas mentioned.
 
Thread title makes me want to enjoy some fantastic tea.

Jokes aside, he should be grateful Pakistan set him free quickly. Many other countries probably would've imprisoned him.

Pakistan set him free because Pakistan was not in a position to afford further escalation.
 
Will wait for “BCCI should not mix politics with sports” next time from PCB.

For some reason it’s not offensive at all, it’s just a reflection of what our society likes for entertainment and the cheesiness and cheapness of our mass entertainment. Indian shows can have below the belt jokes too just the difference is we usually tread carefully on the topic of religion etc.

You take cringe and cheap Indian comedy shows etc and make the production values even more cheaper with incompetent technicians I think you get Pakistani shows. Kind of like Pakistani movies I am assuming.
 
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Thirdly we could have done alot more damage and next time we will not hold back.

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The events of this release immediately followed with article 370 revocation. That was the best time to do damage but looks like it was used to save power with Kashmir hour etc which lasted for what 2 days?

Also difference between surrender and capture. Abhinandan was captured. In 1971 Pakistani troops surrendered. Those are 2 different things.

Very classy that people who have never been a school yard fight make fun of a captured soldier in the most vulnerable position. The way Abhinandan handled himself should be a lesson in decorum maybe in Pakistan because I see Pak diplomats and ex-generals speak like a typical mullahs atleast the ones I come across via social media clips.
 
It's an interesting spin considering India escalated, got chased out of Pakistani territory and Pak armed forces captured your pilot.

Incorrect.

No one challenged the India fighter planes when they bombed Balakote. They entered deep into Pakistani territory. Came back unscathed.

Next day PAF Didn't even cross the LoC but fired stand off ammunition from far off and then turnee tail. A pilot with a 50 year old Mig 21 chased behind F16s and went inside Pakistan alone. Walked back home 72 hrs later. While Pakistan is still searching for "doosra banda".
 
If India does a troop deployment on IB, it will force Pakistan to mirror that deployment.

With a forex of 3bn how long will Pakistan hold out before bankruptcy?
 
If India does a troop deployment on IB, it will force Pakistan to mirror that deployment.

With a forex of 3bn how long will Pakistan hold out before bankruptcy?

I won't bother answering this because it just shows up how ignorant you are about these things.
 
I won't bother answering this because it just shows up how ignorant you are about these things.

Educate me? Pakistan has no money to pay diplomats salary. While it doesn’t reflect the budget allocated to army. However if the country has a food and resource shortage, how long will you feed the troops?

No one is saying Pakistan army is incapable of fighting or is incompetent. I mean speaking about the soldiers. However you can’t win a war on an empty stomach.

War eats into everyone’s reserves. And please don’t give the juvenile threat of nuclear weapons, India has them too. Unless it falls in the hand of a total maniacal dictator, no one will ever use it first. Even Putin hasn’t used it despite being backed to a corner.

Don’t know what fantasy land people live in.
 
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Educate me? Pakistan has no money to pay diplomats salary. While it doesn’t reflect the budget allocated to army. However if the country has a food and resource shortage, how long will you feed the troops?

No one is saying Pakistan army is incapable of fighting or is incompetent. I mean speaking about the soldiers. However you can’t win a war on an empty stomach.

War eats into everyone’s reserves. And please don’t give the juvenile threat of nuclear weapons, India has them too. Unless it falls in the hand of a total maniacal dictator, no one will ever use it first. Even Putin hasn’t used it despite being backed to a corner.

Don’t know what fantasy land people live in.

Just look up what happened the last time India mobilised its forces at the border. For us the nuclear threshold is extremely low. You cross that border , you start a countdown to armageddon.
 
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Just look up what happened the last time India mobilised its forces at the border. For us the nuclear threshold is extremely low. You cross that border , you start a countdown to armageddon.

India will pre-empt any nuke strike. Thats has been said already. Your geographical area is much smaller and hence chances of survival lesser.

India doesn't need to cross the border. A forward deployment for a few weeks will bankrupt Pakistan.
 
But but politics should not mix with sports .soon BCCI or Indian government should Ban PSL telecast in India . period

So, you agree that politics shouldn’t mix with sports?

Or, you don’t have a problem with politics mixing with sports, therefore you really shouldn’t be crying over the image of Abhinandan sipping on some fantastic Tapal Danedaar tea?

Oh, no…how will the PSL survive without Indian viewerships !!!!
 
India will pre-empt any nuke strike. Thats has been said already. Your geographical area is much smaller and hence chances of survival lesser.

India doesn't need to cross the border. A forward deployment for a few weeks will bankrupt Pakistan.

We won't be worried about survival at that point. At that point its how much of you can we take with us.

So correct me if I'm wrong. You invade attack us and then nuke us too..I don't think that would be smart.

Finally to your point. Well go ahead. If it were that easy you should have done it by now. Our forces are already practically at the border. You have to move yours. That will cost you too. It would probably push your economy into a recession and then eventually freefall..
 
Abhinandan is irrelevant now. He got shot down and then beaten up by locals until the Pakistani army came to save him from them. I wonder what would've happened if Pak army let the locals have free reign over him. Wouldn't have been pretty I reckon.
 
Oh, no…how will the PSL survive without Indian viewerships !!!!

PSL will definitely survive without Indian viewership. There are enough eyeballs in Pakistan to make it the 2nd most watched league after IPL ,quality debate aside.

Will PSL survive the factors originating within Pakistan should be your bigger concern and a reasonable one. As usual searching in the wrong place.

Anyways India-Pakistan cricket boards have politics because both boards are run by political appointees appointed by politicians.

The equivalent of this specific incident would be pictures of 1971 surrender shown during IPL broadcasts. While I think Indian coverage is equally cheesy and cringe, there are certain lines they don’t cross just like you would expect from a professional setup.
 
PSL will definitely survive without Indian viewership. There are enough eyeballs in Pakistan to make it the 2nd most watched league after IPL ,quality debate aside.

Will PSL survive the factors originating within Pakistan should be your bigger concern and a reasonable one. As usual searching in the wrong place.

Anyways India-Pakistan cricket boards have politics because both boards are run by political appointees appointed by politicians.

The equivalent of this specific incident would be pictures of 1971 surrender shown during IPL broadcasts. While I think Indian coverage is equally cheesy and cringe, there are certain lines they don’t cross just like you would expect from a professional setup.

There was nothing political with it, it’s just an unwelcome guest sipping on some fantastic tea which is being used to promote their own tea.

How’s Vivo or Byju’s going to use a 1971 war pic for their own marketing lol.

Don’t know why Indians are so rattled over a harmless meme.
 
We won't be worried about survival at that point. At that point its how much of you can we take with us.

So correct me if I'm wrong. You invade attack us and then nuke us too..I don't think that would be smart.

Finally to your point. Well go ahead. If it were that easy you should have done it by now. Our forces are already practically at the border. You have to move yours. That will cost you too. It would probably push your economy into a recession and then eventually freefall..

Sitting in UK you may not be worried but those in Islamabad will be.

Any attack will only be in retaliation to a Pakistani provocation.

Lol. Moving the attack corps into forward position will push India into recession. :))) . You really think that.

Forward deployment of attack corps within few KMs of IB will not push India into recession. India can very well absorb few billion dollars hit. Can Pakistan afford to spend a few billions?
 
PSL will definitely survive without Indian viewership. There are enough eyeballs in Pakistan to make it the 2nd most watched league after IPL ,quality debate aside.

Will PSL survive the factors originating within Pakistan should be your bigger concern and a reasonable one. As usual searching in the wrong place.

Anyways India-Pakistan cricket boards have politics because both boards are run by political appointees appointed by politicians.

The equivalent of this specific incident would be pictures of 1971 surrender shown during IPL broadcasts. While I think Indian coverage is equally cheesy and cringe, there are certain lines they don’t cross just like you would expect from a professional setup.

India should ban the PSL telecast. And BCCI should ban anyone associated with PSL from Indian cricket.
 
India should ban the PSL telecast. And BCCI should ban anyone associated with PSL from Indian cricket.

I don't think we need to go to that extreme. But next time any PCB or Pakistani diplomat opens their mouth to claim that they don't mix politics and cricket, this video is a good response.
 
I don't think we need to go to that extreme. But next time any PCB or Pakistani diplomat opens their mouth to claim that they don't mix politics and cricket, this video is a good response.

So your telling me that the PCB instructed a private tea company to run an ad with Abhinandan sipping tea?

Indians are getting their nickers in a knot for something that seemed to be a tongue and cheek from a private tea company selling a product to Pakistani consumers using a meme that is popularised in Pakistan.

It seems you have forgotten all the moka moka stuff and also saying that Pakistanis were breaking tvs and commentating on if they can afford to break tvs as well as other memes to advertise Pak vs Ind games. This was all done by Star Sports and they are an offical broadcaster for ICC tournaments.

Tuada kuta tommy Saada kuta, kuta?
 
India will pre-empt any nuke strike. Thats has been said already. Your geographical area is much smaller and hence chances of survival lesser.

India doesn't need to cross the border. A forward deployment for a few weeks will bankrupt Pakistan.


That's the spirit! Stay on your side, stay safe.

Things can only escalate if India allow it to and if they do then no one can control the outcome.
 
So your telling me that the PCB instructed a private tea company to run an ad with Abhinandan sipping tea?

Indians are getting their nickers in a knot for something that seemed to be a tongue and cheek from a private tea company selling a product to Pakistani consumers using a meme that is popularised in Pakistan.

It seems you have forgotten all the moka moka stuff and also saying that Pakistanis were breaking tvs and commentating on if they can afford to break tvs as well as other memes to advertise Pak vs Ind games. This was all done by Star Sports and they are an offical broadcaster for ICC tournaments.

Tuada kuta tommy Saada kuta, kuta?

Mauka mauka stuff may be irritating but it does not cross diplomatic boundaries. Tapal tea showing a PoW video in local TV channels is fine, even I personally don't mind if they want to show during cricket matches with endorsement from PCB but then there is no more moral high ground for PCB who does not mix politics with cricket. I am not even going to the point of possible Geneva convention violation that PCB might have committed by monetizing a PoW video.
 
That's the spirit! Stay on your side, stay safe.

Things can only escalate if India allow it to and if they do then no one can control the outcome.

Things will escalate if Pakistan provokes. Any provocation will result in a disproportionate response.
 
Mauka mauka stuff may be irritating but it does not cross diplomatic boundaries. Tapal tea showing a PoW video in local TV channels is fine, even I personally don't mind if they want to show during cricket matches with endorsement from PCB but then there is no more moral high ground for PCB who does not mix politics with cricket. I am not even going to the point of possible Geneva convention violation that PCB might have committed by monetizing a PoW video.

You keep saying that PCB endorsed it or were some sort of elaborate conspirators with a private company to run an offensive ad but what evidence do you have that PCB even knew that a private tea company would run such an ad? It seems you are reaching for something thats not their to make invalid a point that PCB is very clear on, no politics in sports.

PCB is not Tapal Tea and Tapal Tea is not the spokesperson for Pakistan Cricket, there is no way that this can even remotely be consider that PCB themselves are putting politics in the game or making any statement about POWs as they were not the ones that made them.

A clear example of mixing politics in the game is when you boards out right say that we are going to discriminate against a country due to politics. When has the PCB made any grandiose outright political comments about not playing India because of a political situation?
 
That's the spirit! Stay on your side, stay safe.

Things can only escalate if India allow it to and if they do then no one can control the outcome.

In the current scenario India doesn't need to cross the border. Even mobilization of troops along teh border for a few weeks will bankrupt pakistan. Pakistan currency is already 261 PKR for a dollar which means in recent weeks teh debt on every pakistani citiczen has risen by almost 18000 PKR. Without the Pulwama blast the resultant events wouldn't have happened. Its high time Pakistan uses diplomatic channels for its Kashmir cause than arming terrorist groups as it states in its policy.
 
You keep saying that PCB endorsed it or were some sort of elaborate conspirators with a private company to run an offensive ad but what evidence do you have that PCB even knew that a private tea company would run such an ad? It seems you are reaching for something thats not their to make invalid a point that PCB is very clear on, no politics in sports.

PCB is not Tapal Tea and Tapal Tea is not the spokesperson for Pakistan Cricket, there is no way that this can even remotely be consider that PCB themselves are putting politics in the game or making any statement about POWs as they were not the ones that made them.

A clear example of mixing politics in the game is when you boards out right say that we are going to discriminate against a country due to politics. When has the PCB made any grandiose outright political comments about not playing India because of a political situation?

So you are saying that PCB does not even review ads from their sponsors / partners before they are displayed LIVE during the event? Either ways PCB still remains accountable for what is displayed.

Again it's not a big deal what PCB and Tapal does in their event. But no more claims of moral high ground please. And as I said one simply should not monetize PoW videos.
 
So you are saying that PCB does not even review ads from their sponsors / partners before they are displayed LIVE during the event? Either ways PCB still remains accountable for what is displayed.

Again it's not a big deal what PCB and Tapal does in their event. But no more claims of moral high ground please. And as I said one simply should not monetize PoW videos.

Tell me what job position do you think the 'review the ads from our sponsors' guy would be in the PCB? All electronic media, including ads, has to meet PEMRA guidelines and PCB would hold in confidence that their sponsors are following those guidelines.

Your right on PCB having to be accountable for what is displayed in their event, but you cannot conflate an ad from private company as a political statement by the PCB.

The PCB has not made any political statement or introduced any politics into cricket. You are reaching! Also the fact that you are so quickly to insinuate that this is a political statement by the PCB and this somehow diminishes their 'moral high ground' is proof that you yourself believe that the actions of the BCCI are somewhat nefarious when it comes to Pakistan in Cricket.
 
Tell me what job position do you think the 'review the ads from our sponsors' guy would be in the PCB? All electronic media, including ads, has to meet PEMRA guidelines and PCB would hold in confidence that their sponsors are following those guidelines.

Your right on PCB having to be accountable for what is displayed in their event, but you cannot conflate an ad from private company as a political statement by the PCB.

The PCB has not made any political statement or introduced any politics into cricket. You are reaching! Also the fact that you are so quickly to insinuate that this is a political statement by the PCB and this somehow diminishes their 'moral high ground' is proof that you yourself believe that the actions of the BCCI are somewhat nefarious when it comes to Pakistan in Cricket.

BCCI obviously play power game and politics. I have no two view around it. It's still laughable though when PCB tries to paint themselves as a saint.
 
Did not know PCB has some trolls too :))

The only thing is, they should not have shown the picture of Abhinandan. Just words "The tea is fantastic" would have been sufficient. By showing picture, PCB is only increasing its differences with BCCI.
 
In the current scenario India doesn't need to cross the border. Even mobilization of troops along teh border for a few weeks will bankrupt pakistan. Pakistan currency is already 261 PKR for a dollar which means in recent weeks teh debt on every pakistani citiczen has risen by almost 18000 PKR. Without the Pulwama blast the resultant events wouldn't have happened. Its high time Pakistan uses diplomatic channels for its Kashmir cause than arming terrorist groups as it states in its policy.

Are you referencing this as a turning point for Pak economy?

What happened in Pulwama was India's own affair and the failure of their security forces. India tried to pass the buck and put the blame on Pakistan but that just resulted in further humiliation of Indian Armed forces.

Pakistan's Kashmir stance is very clear. We've tried many times for diplomatic solutions but India just doesn't want to talk.
 
Are you referencing this as a turning point for Pak economy?

What happened in Pulwama was India's own affair and the failure of their security forces. India tried to pass the buck and put the blame on Pakistan but that just resulted in further humiliation of Indian Armed forces.

Pakistan's Kashmir stance is very clear. We've tried many times for diplomatic solutions but India just doesn't want to talk.

Supplying training and funding terrorist organisations by a neighbouring country is whose affair? How many Pakistanis have been banned by UN for terrorist activities?

Read statements by US or other countries and read who they blamed.

Humiliation? Mirage 2000s flew inside Pakistan, dropped bombs came back unchallenged.

Abhinandan chased out F16s and entered Pakistani territory. Came back in 72 hrs. The message was clear, any use of unconventional war tactics by Pakistan will result in India using disproportionate conventional response.

What has Pakistan tried?

There are 3 agreements on Kashmir,

1949 UN Ceasefire: Violated by Pakistan in 1965

1972 Shimla Agreement: Violated by Pakistan by interfering and creating supporting funding and equipping an arned secessionist terrorist movement in Kashmir.

1999 Lahore Declaration: Violated by Pakistan within months in Kargil.

It will be utter foolish to expect anything else from Pakistan. So the wiser option is to not waste time and downgrade relationship to the minimum. And prepare to respond to any violent provocation with a disproportionate response.
 
Are you referencing this as a turning point for Pak economy?

What happened in Pulwama was India's own affair and the failure of their security forces. India tried to pass the buck and put the blame on Pakistan but that just resulted in further humiliation of Indian Armed forces.

Pakistan's Kashmir stance is very clear. We've tried many times for diplomatic solutions but India just doesn't want to talk.

A section of the Pakistani ISI-military establishment is behind what happened in Pulawama and the issues that crop up now and then in border districts. This has always been the case in terms of arms, ammunitions , logistics, funding and manpower. It's definitely a security failure on our part, but does not relieve the state actors on Pakistani side of their contributions.
 
Supplying training and funding terrorist organisations by a neighbouring country is whose affair? How many Pakistanis have been banned by UN for terrorist activities?

Read statements by US or other countries and read who they blamed.

Humiliation? Mirage 2000s flew inside Pakistan, dropped bombs came back unchallenged.

Abhinandan chased out F16s and entered Pakistani territory. Came back in 72 hrs. The message was clear, any use of unconventional war tactics by Pakistan will result in India using disproportionate conventional response.

What has Pakistan tried?

There are 3 agreements on Kashmir,

1949 UN Ceasefire: Violated by Pakistan in 1965

1972 Shimla Agreement: Violated by Pakistan by interfering and creating supporting funding and equipping an arned secessionist terrorist movement in Kashmir.

1999 Lahore Declaration: Violated by Pakistan within months in Kargil.

It will be utter foolish to expect anything else from Pakistan. So the wiser option is to not waste time and downgrade relationship to the minimum. And prepare to respond to any violent provocation with a disproportionate response.

RSS fantasies..love this comedy post..
 
Pakistan's Kashmir stance is very clear. We've tried many times for diplomatic solutions but India just doesn't want to talk.

You mean diplomatic solutions like Kargil, 26/11, sending Mujahideens into Kashmir etc?

Yeah India is being unreasonable here for not wanting to talk.

Also on one hand Pakistanis say they fought a war on terror and there are terrorists active in the country but find it hard to believe that some of them cross over into Kashmir etc. how does that work?
 
Cute ad by PSL but if I remember correctly one of the PMLN legislators in their assembly revealed that Imran was panicking after they had Abhinandan in custody and immediately let him go after India threatened an invasion of PoK in Feb 2019 :)
 
Cute ad by PSL but if I remember correctly one of the PMLN legislators in their assembly revealed that Imran was panicking after they had Abhinandan in custody and immediately let him go after India threatened an invasion of PoK in Feb 2019 :)

Again more lovely kahanian from bollywood..great comedy this thread is creating..

But just to correct you the pmln legislator was talking about Bajwa. He was quite over weight by then and was probably in need of a comfort break. Lol..

All this talk of panicking because we had him jn custody...lol.. my friend when a boxer knocks out his opponent and then goes over to the corner for a hand shake it is hardly panic.. what was there to panic over?

Nothing..we revealed the fascist regime as a paper tiger..and then drank chai..such humiliation..lol..
 
Again more lovely kahanian from bollywood..great comedy this thread is creating..

But just to correct you the pmln legislator was talking about Bajwa. He was quite over weight by then and was probably in need of a comfort break. Lol..

All this talk of panicking because we had him jn custody...lol.. my friend when a boxer knocks out his opponent and then goes over to the corner for a hand shake it is hardly panic.. what was there to panic over?

Nothing..we revealed the fascist regime as a paper tiger..and then drank chai..such humiliation..lol..


Don't blame me, I'm just quoting your own legislator who said the Pak government panicked. This was conveyed in an all-party-meeting held by PTI.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-threat-says-pml-n-leader/article61712725.ece
 
Seems like Indians are still upset about the global humiliation they faced when we captured their pilot after the thrashing he got from the locals.

Indians, instead of thanking the Pak army for saving him are instead trolling Pakistan for releasing him, lol.

Just go back to the day of the event, who was it that was crying for their pilot? Crying about geneva this geneva that. Pretty much begging for his release, India was on its knees for one pilot that should’ve been left to fight for his own survival against the locals.

Brainwashed by their own media, they claimed Imran was scared, bruh scared of what? The 56” inch inflatable chest chai wala with tights on?
 
Seems like Indians are still upset about the global humiliation they faced when we captured their pilot after the thrashing he got from the locals.

Indians, instead of thanking the Pak army for saving him are instead trolling Pakistan for releasing him, lol.

Just go back to the day of the event, who was it that was crying for their pilot? Crying about geneva this geneva that. Pretty much begging for his release, India was on its knees for one pilot that should’ve been left to fight for his own survival against the locals.

Brainwashed by their own media, they claimed Imran was scared, bruh scared of what? The 56” inch inflatable chest chai wala with tights on?

Ask Ayaz Sadiq, you would know what was happening. He isn't Indian media.
 
This is some serious cope [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]. You're better than that.

He actually isn't. Lol..

Still remember his debate about the Asian raptor. He is incapable of accepting anything negative about bharat..
 
Seems like Indians are still upset about the global humiliation they faced when we captured their pilot after the thrashing he got from the locals.

Indians, instead of thanking the Pak army for saving him are instead trolling Pakistan for releasing him, lol.

Just go back to the day of the event, who was it that was crying for their pilot? Crying about geneva this geneva that. Pretty much begging for his release, India was on its knees for one pilot that should’ve been left to fight for his own survival against the locals.

Brainwashed by their own media, they claimed Imran was scared, bruh scared of what? The 56” inch inflatable chest chai wala with tights on?

They actually denied it at first.. lol..they are lucky we didn't short down more planes that day..9 could have gone down..
 
haha good stuff PSL with Tapal fantastic tea.

It needs to be remembered and rubbed on to remind them of the modern era humiliation they were handed for their aggression. Their government, media, movies and social media constantly demonizes Pakistanis, and we barely ever do that as part of being a mature nation....but this sure takes the cake with disgraced Indian wing commander sipping tea on big screen :))
 
They actually denied it at first.. lol..they are lucky we didn't short down more planes that day..9 could have gone down..

Indian media and RSS followers still believe he shot down an F16. lol.

I did a search to find out where he is now but nothing.

Apart from more stories ..

Pak commando behind capture of Abhinandan killed

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/national/pak-commando-behind-capture-of-abhinandan-killed

It makes one wonder about the general Indian population and how they will swallow anything they are told as long as it makes them look good , lies or not.
 
They actually denied it at first.. lol..they are lucky we didn't short down more planes that day..9 could have gone down..

yep, even after the footage of Abhinandan was released, their headlines were “PAK alleges to have captured Indian soldier”. LOL

Ask Ayaz Sadiq, you would know what was happening. He isn't Indian media.

Asking Ayaz Sadiq about IK would be like me telling you to ask a congress member about Modi’s degree from Gujrat University.
 
A section of the Pakistani ISI-military establishment is behind what happened in Pulawama and the issues that crop up now and then in border districts. This has always been the case in terms of arms, ammunitions , logistics, funding and manpower. It's definitely a security failure on our part, but does not relieve the state actors on Pakistani side of their contributions.


It was an attack on a bus in a 78 vehicle armed forces convoy. No way the attacker got that close unless there was inside help. Easy to blame Pakistani state actors but the obvious is the opposite.
 
yep, even after the footage of Abhinandan was released, their headlines were “PAK alleges to have captured Indian soldier”. LOL



Asking Ayaz Sadiq about IK would be like me telling you to ask a congress member about Modi’s degree from Gujrat University.

Ayaz Sadiq said it on the floor of the house and named the people present.

And he was right as Abhinandan walked back home in 72 hrs.
 
haha good stuff PSL with Tapal fantastic tea.

It needs to be remembered and rubbed on to remind them of the modern era humiliation they were handed for their aggression. Their government, media, movies and social media constantly demonizes Pakistanis, and we barely ever do that as part of being a mature nation....but this sure takes the cake with disgraced Indian wing commander sipping tea on big screen :))

What about 90k Pakistanis surrendering and then being taken to India and kept their for over a year. Then your PM had to come to Shimla to take get them released.

Few armies have created a new country since the second world war.
 
What about 90k Pakistanis surrendering and then being taken to India and kept their for over a year. Then your PM had to come to Shimla to take get them released.

Few armies have created a new country since the second world war.

Be a Man and accept that Pakistan scored a victory over India that day by capturing and parading an Indian Pilot , it was there in front of the World to see. No need to turn every humiliation and defeat into a victory.

No need to go 50 or 100 years back lets talk about the most recent scuffle . Deep down you were too hurt to have your ace Pilot captured by the enemy.
 
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Be a Man and accept that Pakistan scored a victory over India that day by capturing and parading an Indian Pilot , it was there in front of the World to see. No need to turn every humiliation and defeat into a victory.

No need to go 50 or 100 years back lets talk about the most recent scuffle . Deep down you were too hurt to have your ace Pilot captured by the enemy.

Pakistan has battled 4 wars with India and lost all of them. After realizing they cannot beat India in contemporary wars, they started sending non state actors (aka Terrorists). Still after fighting so many wars and sending so many terrorists across, tri colour still flies high in Srinagar and Kashmir is still a part of India. Not only that, India also broken Pakistan into two pieces and liberated Bangladesh in 1971 by defeating Pak army in 2 days. That is what victory means and sounds like. Not by capturing 1 prisoner of war who was caught while bravely chasing the Pak jet...LOL. If ever the term 'Choti Choti Kushiya' means then this is it.

PSL is a flop show this year. Personally I, who kind of like Pak cricket and regularly follows it, have not watched any action in this season's PSL. The reason is poor scheduling with all top tests going around and also the broadcasting quality is extremely poor. There is a reason SKY Sports in UK showing Women's IPL on their main sports channel and PSL is shifted to Sky Mix free tv. To compensate this poor show, this Abhinandan advert was shown as its guaranteed to get some eyeballs and it did. It is called 'cheap marketing' in business world but effective.

If I remember correctly, there is also an advert company in Pakistan that mocked Arshdeep Singh last year for dropping that catch in Asia cup.

One thing for sure though, India's stance will remain same towards Pakistan both geo politically and in cricket irrespective of how many attention seeking attempts Pakistan creates as long BJP is in power in India.
 
Ayaz Sadiq said it on the floor of the house and named the people present.

And he was right as Abhinandan walked back home in 72 hrs.

Yet, you couldn’t get your Kulbushan Yadav back.

He’s being tortured every day, being forced to watch Indian news channels as a form of punishment…yet Modi can do nothing about it.

If what you claim is true, that IK was scared, why not take the opportunity to have him released too?

I expect no reply to this because you tend to run away quite a lot.
 
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Be a Man and accept that Pakistan scored a victory over India that day by capturing and parading an Indian Pilot , it was there in front of the World to see. No need to turn every humiliation and defeat into a victory.

No need to go 50 or 100 years back lets talk about the most recent scuffle . Deep down you were too hurt to have your ace Pilot captured by the enemy.


An entire pkg of Mirage 2000s went inside Pakistan and bombed pakistani territory and came back unchallenged. Thats humiliation for Pakistan.

A 50 year old MIG 21 challenged and chased F16s into the Pakistani territory. I see the bravery of the Mig pilot. If a pkg of F16s of PAF shot down a Mig 21 that too inside Pakistan, it isn't that great an achievement.

As long as Bangladesh exists it will be a reminder of Pakistan's surrender.
 
India will pre-empt any nuke strike. Thats has been said already. Your geographical area is much smaller and hence chances of survival lesser.

India doesn't need to cross the border. A forward deployment for a few weeks will bankrupt Pakistan.

That can only happen in your Bollywood. Talking delusionally as we understand you folks think of yourselves as some next level tees maar khan, but reality is Pakistan is well capable of responding with total force and dismantling India inside out.

If you had any guts and courage you would have come back after Abhinandan humiliation. You didn't for a reason because you learned your lesson through humiliation at a global scale in modern times through that mini war. Times have changed and there is no need to thump your chest over pointless talks of we can do this or that delusions.
 
Pakistan has battled 4 wars with India and lost all of them. After realizing they cannot beat India in contemporary wars, they started sending non state actors (aka Terrorists). Still after fighting so many wars and sending so many terrorists across, tri colour still flies high in Srinagar and Kashmir is still a part of India. Not only that, India also broken Pakistan into two pieces and liberated Bangladesh in 1971 by defeating Pak army in 2 days. That is what victory means and sounds like. Not by capturing 1 prisoner of war who was caught while bravely chasing the Pak jet...LOL. If ever the term 'Choti Choti Kushiya' means then this is it.

PSL is a flop show this year. Personally I, who kind of like Pak cricket and regularly follows it, have not watched any action in this season's PSL. The reason is poor scheduling with all top tests going around and also the broadcasting quality is extremely poor. There is a reason SKY Sports in UK showing Women's IPL on their main sports channel and PSL is shifted to Sky Mix free tv. To compensate this poor show, this Abhinandan advert was shown as its guaranteed to get some eyeballs and it did. It is called 'cheap marketing' in business world but effective.

If I remember correctly, there is also an advert company in Pakistan that mocked Arshdeep Singh last year for dropping that catch in Asia cup.

One thing for sure though, India's stance will remain same towards Pakistan both geo politically and in cricket irrespective of how many attention seeking attempts Pakistan creates as long BJP is in power in India.

Ofcourse in your books you have won four wars.... Losing half of Kashmir in 48, and going back in coffins from Lahore in 65, and begging US to be rescued in Kargil etc aren't really called winning wars. No point of talking history, we witnessed a modern mini war and we all saw who walked all over whom and the other side couldn't respond with any aggression after that. A lesson in form of total humiliation was served in a warm hot platter for India.

Pakistan doesn't give two hoots about attention from India. Not sure why you guys think you are all that, and neither we care about extremist BJP running your country, they have already caused enough downslide so you can continue with them. You are a third world country with severe poverty and hunger crisis, so you have better things to concentrate on.
 
That can only happen in your Bollywood. Talking delusionally as we understand you folks think of yourselves as some next level tees maar khan, but reality is Pakistan is well capable of responding with total force and dismantling India inside out.

If you had any guts and courage you would have come back after Abhinandan humiliation. You didn't for a reason because you learned your lesson through humiliation at a global scale in modern times through that mini war. Times have changed and there is no need to thump your chest over pointless talks of we can do this or that delusions.

Lol our media and andhbhakts were busy celebrating our victory over Pakistan. According to them, Pakistan got scared due to which they had to leave Abhinandan.

"Darr gaya Pakistan", "Pakistan ne ghutne teke" were the headlines of godi media. :inti
 
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