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So it was not his own self that was willing to make a comeback but instead, he was begged by PCB to take his retirement back? Is that what he is saying or maybe I am missing something here?

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Mohammad Amir's interaction with PCB media on his return to international cricket:

"I'm coming back after almost 4 years, but whenever you represent your country, it's a different moment altogether. Honestly, I feel like it's my debut series. Because whenever you wear your country's emblem, the star, on your chest, those feelings are very different and to be honest, you can't explain it.

I think it's very challenging for me but credit goes to PCB management and to be honest to Shaheen Shah Afridi.

It is this trust in me which has brought me back to the team, so of course there is a pressure on me because of that, to repay that trust.

In 2009 I made my debut and Pakistan became world champions [ICC T20I World Cup 2009] then we played the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 final and Pakistan became champions again.

.PCB management has brought me back and now there is a short term objective which is to win the World Cup [ICC T20I World Cup 2024].

In 2021 Pakistan played the semi-final, then Pakistan played the final in 2022. So if this time we cross that line then it will be the biggest achievement for me as part of that team.

My fitness is much better this time as the amount of cricket I have played around the world makes me feel that my body is more fitter compared to 2019."

 
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BouncerGuy said:
So it was not his own self that was willing to make a comeback but instead, he was begged by PCB to take his retirement back? Is that what he is saying or maybe I am missing something here?

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As per a recent interview, Mohammad Amir said:

"I want to credit the PCB and Shaheen Afridi for this comeback. They trusted me and convinced me to come back. I feel I am more fit now than I was in 2019, my fitness is top notch and I feel really good"​
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PCB and Shaheen changed his mind. As simple as that. There's no rocket science involved
 
shaz619 said:
That’s great, see you in the next Pakistani Test series mate
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He is not going to play test cricket I guess. He said it himself way earlier that he is not going to play any red ball cricket.
 
With a world cup coming soon it's best to let by gones be by gones.
 
Both him and Imad understand that this arrangement is only for the World Cup. Win or lose, they'll be back to playing leagues after the tournament and mint money for their services.

For the PCB this also makes sense and there's no need to further interfere into other matters.
 
Wow this is scary news. A fit and firing Amir can cause Indian openers lots of trouble. Hope Rohit plays him carefully. The issue is, other bowlers will be Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.

So basically no respite
 
So not being burdened with playing for Pakistan and just being a T20 free lancer has allowed him to heal and rest his body in the last 4-5 years?

To be fair Amirs pace is up in the last 2 years. By 2018-2021 his speeds had declined to 130-133 Km/hr but in the last two years I am observing that he's been able to crank it up to 138-143 Km/hr so maybe what he was saying was correct after all that his body could not handle the strain, pressure of playing all the formats and that he had no choice but to opt to be a limited overs specialist to pro long his career.
 
BouncerGuy said:
So it was not his own self that was willing to make a comeback but instead, he was begged by PCB to take his retirement back? Is that what he is saying or maybe I am missing something here?

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As per a recent interview, Mohammad Amir said:

"I want to credit the PCB and Shaheen Afridi for this comeback. They trusted me and convinced me to come back. I feel I am more fit now than I was in 2019, my fitness is top notch and I feel really good"​
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Convinced and begged are 2 different things completely.

Babar and rizwan cult fans causing unnecessary drama again
 
Savak said:
So not being burdened with playing for Pakistan and just being a T20 free lancer has allowed him to heal and rest his body in the last 4-5 years?

To be fair Amirs pace is up in the last 2 years. By 2018-2021 his speeds had declined to 130-133 Km/hr but in the last two years I am observing that he's been able to crank it up to 138-143 Km/hr so maybe what he was saying was correct after all that his body could not handle the strain, pressure of playing all the formats and that he had no choice but to opt to be a limited overs specialist to pro long his career.
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Sometimes it's not about what is said it's about who said it.

Rauf doesn't want to play tests, it's absolutely fine by those who were against amir's decision of not playing tests

If shaheen says he doesn't want to play tests it will be fine but if amir says it it's problematic
 
Rajdeep said:
Wow this is scary news. A fit and firing Amir can cause Indian openers lots of trouble. Hope Rohit plays him carefully. The issue is, other bowlers will be Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf.

So basically no respite
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Squeaky bum time already 🤣🤣 India out with the jinx prayer mats, they didn’t work in the 2023 WC :(
 
Hmmm, remains to be seen. Is he not pretty much a trundler now, barely able to reach 130?
 
Amir is a canny lefty all phase bowler.
He adds today more value to the squad as a 3rd/4th pacer than Zaman/Abbas and if anything happens to Shaheen he is best placed to replicate his role.
 
Savak said:
So not being burdened with playing for Pakistan and just being a T20 free lancer has allowed him to heal and rest his body in the last 4-5 years?

To be fair Amirs pace is up in the last 2 years. By 2018-2021 his speeds had declined to 130-133 Km/hr but in the last two years I am observing that he's been able to crank it up to 138-143 Km/hr so maybe what he was saying was correct after all that his body could not handle the strain, pressure of playing all the formats and that he had no choice but to opt to be a limited overs specialist to pro long his career.
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In Amir's case people forget a key thing that's related to his fitness. The lost 5 years during the ban. Those 5 years of young adult (18 to 23-24 age) are key years in shaping up a body. Certainly more so for an elite level Cricketer.

He missed those years of playing peak Cricket. Not only that but since he made his first comeback he kept bowling in every game in every format and basically got effected in the process. The body definitely took a toll.
 
pratiktc said:
Amir is a canny lefty all phase bowler.
He adds today more value to the squad as a 3rd/4th pacer than Zaman/Abbas and if anything happens to Shaheen he is best placed to replicate his role.
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One of the major reasons why I'm not against this move of recalling Amir back is the fact that he is now a much experienced T20 bowler who can pretty much bowl in any phase or situation of the game. That's valuable to any team
 
Amir said an important thing in this video that we all missed.

He says "the way PCB and management have brought me back. It is (for) a short term goal and that is World Cup, and that is the biggest goal this time".
 
RidiculousMan said:
Amir said an important thing in this video that we all missed.

He says "the way PCB and management have brought me back. It is (for) a short term goal and that is World Cup, and that is the biggest goal this time".
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Makes sense

Anyone hoping for him to take Pakistan to WTC finals need to wake up lol
 
BouncerGuy said:
He is not going to play test cricket I guess. He said it himself way earlier that he is not going to play any red ball cricket.
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He s an asset for the white ball side but I want to see the likes of Hasnain, Ihsanullah, Muhammad Ali, Aamir Jamal given tests alongside Shaheen and Naseem.

The longest format refines the Fast bowler and they can go all out without being called wide for bowling down the leg side.

We need more test matches in a season.

We have the tools to be successful.
 
RidiculousMan said:
In Amir's case people forget a key thing that's related to his fitness. The lost 5 years during the ban. Those 5 years of young adult (18 to 23-24 age) are key years in shaping up a body. Certainly more so for an elite level Cricketer.

He missed those years of playing peak Cricket. Not only that but since he made his first comeback he kept bowling in every game in every format and basically got effected in the process. The body definitely took a toll.
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In those 5 years, the PCB had made it clear to him in comparison to Butt and Asif that he was going to be in their plans and they would fight for his case with the ICC, he was in the end given permission to play domestic cricket one year in advance at the start of 2015. 5 years is a long time for someone to train and improve their strength, muscles in the gym. He came back as the same Kukri Sookha Danda Amir who last played in 2010, also he is clearly older than his official age by atleast 3-4 years therefore there was no reason for him to come back weak. This is on him.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
If he could deliver any other title to PCT then that would be great.
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If he did I think every single Pakistan fan would forgive his past.

He would no longer go by Mohammad ‘Easy Paisa’ Aamir. He would be renamed like the famous fighter Joanna Jedrzejczyk who now goes by Joanna Champion.

Mohammad ‘Champion’ Aamir certainly has a ring to it, perhaps more so than choor or dhaku which we would erase from our memories for good.
 
shaz619 said:
If he did I think every single Pakistan fan would forgive his past.

He would no longer go by Mohammad ‘Easy Paisa’ Aamir. He would be renamed like the famous fighter Joanna Jedrzejczyk who now goes by Joanna Champion.

Mohammad ‘Champion’ Aamir certainly has a ring to it, perhaps more so than choor or dhaku which we would erase from our memories for good.
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I would never forgive amir for the fixing not just because it's fixing. He's wasted a great career. Could have easily averaged around 25 with the ball and around 20 with the bat. A great career wasted. Having said that I will be always grateful to him for playing a major role in us winning 2 ICC trophies for us.
 
PakEngFan said:
I would never forgive amir for the fixing not just because it's fixing. He's wasted a great career. Could have easily averaged around 25 with the ball and around 20 with the bat. A great career wasted. Having said that I will be always grateful to him for playing a major role in us winning 2 ICC trophies for us.
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Lets see if he wins the third ICC trophy and if the feelings are still there :yk3
 
Wind is blowing in Rawalpindi. Excited to see some breathtaking swings from Mohammad Amir tonight against New Zealand in the 2nd T20I.
 
Slow and smart from Amir

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The only world class performer Pak has produced in recent times not a choker.

The young Amir bowled well in Aus bowls well v India the 2 things that matter.

Pak could have easily won the last 2 t20 world cups with him in team no way Wade was taking him to the cleaners.
 
Good performance from Amir. By the way, the guy looks completely different from his appearance.
 
Don’t care how well he performs he is a cancer within the team, a bad example and above all else a cheat who sold out his country for a few pennies. Should have never let been back in the team.
 
Mohammad Amir in a post-match conference expressed the following views:

"I think the pressure for national side games are really different from league games. As no 250 million people are watching you in the league games but they do watch you in the internationals. Coming back into the team you have to face a lot of pressure but I will try my best to repay the trust reposed in me."

"I always believe that there is a need for partnership in the bowling(domain). Shaheen and Naseem are already delivering good for Pakistan so I would love to add on my contribution to their good momentum."

"I think the England series before the World Cup is too vital for us (for T20 WC preparation). To play against England in English conditions is always tough so to have a good series there would be nice for our preparation."

(On his fitness)

"I believe I am more fitter now than in 2019. I am working on my fitness and I feel that my body is in a better shape now."

(Views regarding team environment)

"I think the current management Azhar Bhai, Yousuf bhai, Wahab bhai, and Babar as captain all are trying to create a good environment in the team. I think the current environment is really getting good and the bond between the senior and junior players is really good. Our goal is to win the World Cup and for that the better the environment, the better we will deliver."

(Regarding any surety from PCB on a spot in World Cup squad)

"There is no such surety. Surely, it's my goal to play the World Cup. Of course, If I played well then I would be part of the team. You can't win a tournament on the back of big names but you need performances for that"

(Regarding the Rawalpindi Ground)

“Today, I made a request to Wahab Riaz to expand the Rawalpindi Ground. We have observed that the crowd in Pindi has never disappointed us, regardless of whether it’s a domestic match, a PSL match, or an international one. Everyone is discussing how New Zealand’s team is somewhat weak as their key players didn’t come. Yet, despite this, the stadium in Rawalpindi was packed to capacity. Therefore, no matter how much credit we give to the Pindi crowd, it will always be less.”

(Views on SSA, Naseem, and Amir trio)

"May ALLAH save us from the evil eye. Fortunately, Pakistan is lucky to have such a pace factory that can perform well in any situation. Honestly, I don't think we have any excuse to lose the upcoming World Cup because if you see our resources in the bowling and batting department they are all fine. So the World Cup is our ultimate goal."

(Regarding the mistakes he made in the past and repeating the same in the future)

“There is no guarantee for this because humans are prone to making mistakes. You can’t provide a guarantee that you won’t make a mistake, but humans can try only. We learn daily and move towards improvement, so this is my effort.”​
 
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It was nice to see him bowling with control and guile but it's a shame that these wickets and the kiwi b/c team don't count
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It was nice to see him bowling with control and guile but it's a shame that these wickets and the kiwi b/c team don't count
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This isn't even NZ c team, it's more like NZ club team minus Ben lister, Chapman, neesham and sodhi
 
mominsaigol said:
This isn't even NZ c team, it's more like NZ club team minus Ben lister, Chapman, neesham and sodhi
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4/11 of the players ago played today were in their last WC squad:

Sodhi
Bracewell
Neesham
Chapman

Seifert has played 59 T20Is.
Ben Sears is one of there new upcoming bowlers and will probably be in their World Cup plans.

The rest are their best domestic performers. I’m confused how you’re getting that they’re not even the C side. If that’s the case, I’m okay with being proven wrong, just list the 33 players who make the squad ahead of the current team. You can even list 22 if you’d like.
 
160KPH said:
4/11 of the players ago played today were in their last WC squad:

Sodhi
Bracewell
Neesham
Chapman

Seifert has played 59 T20Is.
Ben Sears is one of there new upcoming bowlers and will probably be in their World Cup plans.

The rest are their best domestic performers. I’m confused how you’re getting that they’re not even the C side. If that’s the case, I’m okay with being proven wrong, just list the 33 players who make the squad ahead of the current team. You can even list 22 if you’d like.
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I'll list them but then no excuses please

Chapman I've already claimed prior.

As for neesham, he's been b string ever since Glenn Philips permanently replaced him.

Sodhi in tye wc was only played because satner got injured and NZ needed a backup, he's a b string player. Same goes for Bracewell.

Nz's main 11 composes of

1) Conway
2) Rachin
3) Williamson
4) Mitchell
5) Latham
6) Philips
7) Chapman
8) Satner
9) Matt Henry
10) Tim southee
11) Boult

With the 2nd string now being composed of

1) Finn Allen (For t20 he's 1st string tbf)
2) Will young
3) Dane Cleaver/Micheal Bracewell (Batting position shifts isn't accurate)
4) Chad Bowes
5) H nicollis
6) Neesham
7) Tom blundell (Can bt higher, probs > Neesham
8) Ish Sodhi (Honestly he needs to be in c string, worst selection Nz has ever taken)
9) Adam Milne
10) Black tinkler
11) Henry Shipley

Their c string which is

1) Tim seifert
2) Robinson
3) Dean Foxcroft
4) Cole Mconchie
5) Ben lister

And those 2 other joke bowlers I've never heard of etc etc, all these are club players and aren't even worth my sight.
 
mominsaigol said:
I'll list them but then no excuses please

Chapman I've already claimed prior.

As for neesham, he's been b string ever since Glenn Philips permanently replaced him.

Sodhi in tye wc was only played because satner got injured and NZ needed a backup, he's a b string player. Same goes for Bracewell.

Nz's main 11 composes of

1) Conway
2) Rachin
3) Williamson
4) Mitchell
5) Latham
6) Philips
7) Chapman
8) Satner
9) Matt Henry
10) Tim southee
11) Boult

With the 2nd string now being composed of

1) Finn Allen (For t20 he's 1st string tbf)
2) Will young
3) Dane Cleaver/Micheal Bracewell (Batting position shifts isn't accurate)
4) Chad Bowes
5) H nicollis
6) Neesham
7) Tom blundell (Can bt higher, probs > Neesham
8) Ish Sodhi (Honestly he needs to be in c string, worst selection Nz has ever taken)
9) Adam Milne
10) Black tinkler
11) Henry Shipley

Their c string which is

1) Tim seifert
2) Robinson
3) Dean Foxcroft
4) Cole Mconchie
5) Ben lister

And those 2 other joke bowlers I've never heard of etc etc, all these are club players and aren't even worth my sight.
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There’s no excuse but you’re just wrong about the first 11 that New Zealand chooses.

Their 11 in the last T20 WC match they played:

1) Allen
2) Conway
3) Williamson
4) Phillips
5) Mitchell
6) Neesham
7) Santner
8) Southee
9) Sodhi
10) Ferguson
11) Boult

Bracewell was also in their 15 selected for the WC. Not sure how you put Latham in the first XI, he’s not good at T20, he has a 108 SR and he wasn’t even in the last 15 of the WC. Latham wasn’t even in their final 15 selected for their final squad.

Henry Nicholls does not even play T20s for New Zealand? It’s been almost 3 years since he played a T20 for them so how can you say he’s in their 2nd 11 over Seifert? He was bad at T20, he was a top order batsmen who only ever played 10 T20s and scored 12.5 runs @ 90 SR.

When it comes to Seifert I have no clue how you’re putting him in the C team. He is going to be their backup wicket keeper for the WC squad as a backup to Conway. He was their second highest scorer last year.
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Sodhi in tye wc was only played because satner got injured and NZ needed a backup, he's a b string player.
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Not true. Santner and Sodhi both played in the T20 WC semi final.

Sodhi is literally their primary spinner and their second highest wicket taker last year, he’s going to be in their WC squad again this year and probably in the starting XI.

So like I said Sodhi, Neesham, Chapman who were in their starting XI for the T20 SF. Bracewell who was in their top 15 selected for the WC.

Then there’s Seifert who is their backup keeper which for the upcoming WC. So at least 5/11 of the players are probably going to be the in the WC final 15 selected. The rest are a mixture of their B players and their upcoming domestic performers.

You’re just over exaggerating by saying this is worse than their C team.
 
I think Amir wanted to say that the New Zealand team was weak. And it looked weak no doubt about it. But the way amir bowled and controlled the things with his variation was a fresh-air kind of stuff. Good to see him bowling well but still many games left. He should not take it easy.
 
Amir is a proven big match performer and winner.

He is a priceless addition to a line-up.

Naseem and Shaheen s game will be elevated another level if we win the WC with Amir passing on the baton to these two to lead for many years.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:

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They are outside the talent pool lol, well except for Ben lister.

Everyone of these players bar fourkes has played ODI , test or T20s.
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This poster forgets how good Bracewell has been for NZ.

It’s a very weak team based on collective experience, but don’t be surprised if Chapman and Bracewell win them a game or two.

Neesham is actually the weakest of three experienced players in this team.
 
mominsaigol said:
I'll list them but then no excuses please

Chapman I've already claimed prior.

As for neesham, he's been b string ever since Glenn Philips permanently replaced him.

Sodhi in tye wc was only played because satner got injured and NZ needed a backup, he's a b string player. Same goes for Bracewell.

Nz's main 11 composes of

1) Conway
2) Rachin
3) Williamson
4) Mitchell
5) Latham
6) Philips
7) Chapman
8) Satner
9) Matt Henry
10) Tim southee
11) Boult

With the 2nd string now being composed of

1) Finn Allen (For t20 he's 1st string tbf)
2) Will young
3) Dane Cleaver/Micheal Bracewell (Batting position shifts isn't accurate)
4) Chad Bowes
5) H nicollis
6) Neesham
7) Tom blundell (Can bt higher, probs > Neesham
8) Ish Sodhi (Honestly he needs to be in c string, worst selection Nz has ever taken)
9) Adam Milne
10) Black tinkler
11) Henry Shipley

Their c string which is

1) Tim seifert
2) Robinson
3) Dean Foxcroft
4) Cole Mconchie
5) Ben lister

And those 2 other joke bowlers I've never heard of etc etc, all these are club players and aren't even worth my sight.
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These are a mixture of players across formats.

All of the players on this tour bar fourkes have represented NZ in either or any of the 3 formats.
 
Usman Chadda said:
This poster forgets how good Bracewell has been for NZ.

It’s a very weak team based on collective experience, but don’t be surprised if Chapman and Bracewell win them a game or two.

Neesham is actually the weakest of three experienced players in this team.
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I cant see them winning anything.

My point was these players have all represented the kiwis bar fourkes either in one or the other two formats.

The poster mominsaigol seems to think they have picked them up from an NZ bar rather than domestic.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
I cant see them winning anything.

My point was these players have all represented the kiwis bar fourkes either in one or the other two formats.

The poster mominsaigol seems to think they have picked them up from an NZ bar rather than domestic.
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You took the NZ bar a bit too literally. Their obviously from domestic, their just players who will never get a chance to represent NZ unless players get injured or IPL or some league is happening
 
mominsaigol said:
You took the NZ bar a bit too literally. Their obviously from domestic, their just players who will never get a chance to represent NZ unless players get injured or IPL or some league is happening
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I mentioned Bar because your doing these players a disservice.

The likes of robinson , o rourke, lister, duffy, etc are their latest prospects.

Boult, southee and henry are close to retirement at the tail end of their careers.

Milne and lockie are constantly injured these are the players who will play.
 
160KPH said:
4/11 of the players ago played today were in their last WC squad:

Sodhi
Bracewell
Neesham
Chapman

Seifert has played 59 T20Is.
Ben Sears is one of there new upcoming bowlers and will probably be in their World Cup plans.

The rest are their best domestic performers. I’m confused how you’re getting that they’re not even the C side. If that’s the case, I’m okay with being proven wrong, just list the 33 players who make the squad ahead of the current team. You can even list 22 if you’d like.
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He considers Bracewell as a club cricketer. Enough about his cricketing IQ.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
I mentioned Bar because your doing these players a disservice.

The likes of robinson , o rourke, lister, duffy, etc are their latest prospects.

Boult, southee and henry are close to retirement at the tail end of their careers.

Milne and lockie are constantly injured these are the players who will play.
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We'll see
 
Mickey Arthur had a sensible deal with Amir: play white and pink ball internationals plus Tests in England, New Zealand and South Africa.

Pakistan has a huge World Test Championship series away to a weakened South Africa at the end of the year.

Imagine Amir, Naseem and Shaheen supported by Jamal and a part-time spinner. South Africa would be highly unlikely to post 200 in any innings of the series.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
I cant see them winning anything.

My point was these players have all represented the kiwis bar fourkes either in one or the other two formats.

The poster mominsaigol seems to think they have picked them up from an NZ bar rather than domestic.
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Still can’t see them win anything?
 
Usman Chadda said:
Still can’t see them win anything?
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Lets be honest we had an especially poor day with the ball and in the field and an average display with the bat.

Credit to chapman and co.

If you look at the poll I had us dropping a game because we are not focussed enough to win with a whitewash.

However after the 2nd T20 I thought we should take the series with a whitewash unless something crazy happens like yesterday did.
 
Why make such statements and put additional pressure on yourself to perform? Not smart by Amir.
 
PakEngFan said:
I would never forgive amir for the fixing not just because it's fixing. He's wasted a great career. Could have easily averaged around 25 with the ball and around 20 with the bat. A great career wasted. Having said that I will be always grateful to him for playing a major role in us winning 2 ICC trophies for us.
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Pakistan haven't produced a bowler who has played 50+ tests or taken 200+ wickets since Waqar Younis (debut 1989).

Amir with a bowling average greater than his mentor Salman Butt's batting average was going to be the last guy to overturn that.
 
Varun said:
Pakistan haven't produced a bowler who has played 50+ tests or taken 200+ wickets since Waqar Younis (debut 1989).

Amir with a bowling average greater than his mentor Salman Butt's batting average was going to be the last guy to overturn that.
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Lets put things in perspective.

Its due to a lack of test matches that Pakistan plays in a calendar year.

YK played 118 tests in a 17 year career span compared to Alistair cook s 12 year career to play 161 tests.

Ian bell played 118 tests in a 12 year career.

5 years less than YK to play the same amount.

Dhoni played 90 tests in 9 years.


Siraj 27 tests in a 4 year career

Naseem 17 tests in 4 years


How many bowlers are going to hang around to play 50 tests in 8 or 9 years.

We know the 3 countries that play the most and have the monopoly.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
Lets put things in perspective.

Its due to a lack of test matches that Pakistan plays in a calendar year.

YK played 118 tests in a 17 year career span compared to Alistair cook s 12 year career to play 161 tests.

Ian bell played 118 tests in a 12 year career.

5 years less than YK to play the same amount.

Dhoni played 90 tests in 9 years.


Siraj 27 tests in a 4 year career

Naseem 17 tests in 4 years


How many bowlers are going to hang around to play 50 tests in 8 or 9 years.

We know the 3 countries that play the most and have the monopoly.
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Then explain how bowlers from even lesser teams than Pakistan have managed 70/80+ tests: Kemar Roach, Trent Boult etc?
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
Lets put things in perspective.

Its due to a lack of test matches that Pakistan plays in a calendar year.

YK played 118 tests in a 17 year career span compared to Alistair cook s 12 year career to play 161 tests.

Ian bell played 118 tests in a 12 year career.

5 years less than YK to play the same amount.

Dhoni played 90 tests in 9 years.


Siraj 27 tests in a 4 year career

Naseem 17 tests in 4 years


How many bowlers are going to hang around to play 50 tests in 8 or 9 years.

We know the 3 countries that play the most and have the monopoly.
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Why have bowlers from NZ, SA, SL and WI managed to do it though.

The blame for playing such few tests rests solely on the shoulders of the PCB, who after the 1992 series in ENG stopped giving 2 hoots about tests cricket and replaced it with a million Sharjah cups and jamodis, even your average pakistani fan doesn't care about tests
 
Varun said:
Then explain how bowlers from even lesser teams than Pakistan have managed 70/80+ tests: Kemar Roach, Trent Boult etc?
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Its taken Roach 15 years to play 81 tests and he is mostly a test specialist.

Boult had played 78 tests in 11 years.

The question remains how many players from outside the monopoly 3 would hang around a decade to play 50 tests something the monopoly 3 players can achieve in 4 - 5 years

NZ have played 31 tests since 2020

Windies have played 30 tests since 2020

Pakistan have played 29 tests since 2020



MONOPOLY 3

Aus have played 29 tests in 2 years

Eng have played 28 tests in 2 years

ind have played 21 tests in 2 years


Come back to me when there is a level playing field.
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Why have bowlers from NZ, SA, SL and WI managed to do it though.

The blame for playing such few tests rests solely on the shoulders of the PCB, who after the 1992 series in ENG stopped giving 2 hoots about tests cricket and replaced it with a million Sharjah cups and jamodis, even your average pakistani fan doesn't care about tests
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The boards outside the Monopoly 3 prioritise T 20 s etc because that brings in the most revenue to keep their board afloat.

However it is the so called governing body that has failed the rest of its members by failing to safeguard the game to ensure a test championship has meaning by making sure the top 8 test nations play each other.

Supporters will come in when there s quality games to watch.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
The boards outside the Monopoly 3 prioritise T 20 s etc because that brings in the most revenue to keep their board afloat.

However it is the so called governing body that has failed the rest of its members by failing to safeguard the game to ensure a test championship has meaning by making sure the top 8 test nations play each other.

Supporters will come in when there s quality games to watch.
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Pakistan since the 90s has stopped caring about test cricket, the PCB would only play a few tests every year and fill the calender with useless odis.

Even in the 2004 series when India toured, the stadium was filled for the odis but not for the tests.

When sehwag slammed the 300, there were so many empty stands
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Pakistan since the 90s has stopped caring about test cricket, the PCB would only play a few tests every year and fill the calender with useless odis.

Even in the 2004 series when India toured, the stadium was filled for the odis but not for the tests.

When sehwag slammed the 300, there were so many empty stands
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When England and Aus toured recently there was a good number of spectators that came to see quality cricket.

However all the grounds need renovating which is another factor.

Money is a major factor for all the cricket boards outside the monopoly 3.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
Its taken Roach 15 years to play 81 tests and he is mostly a test specialist.

Boult had played 78 tests in 11 years.
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Yep. So my question is how come not a single bowler from Pakistan since 1989 has managed to do the same.

There are more examples from West Indies, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, even Zimbabwe (Heath Streak) during this time period.
 
Varun said:
Yep. So my question is how come not a single bowler from Pakistan since 1989 has managed to do the same.

There are more examples from West Indies, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, even Zimbabwe (Heath Streak) during this time period.
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Come on man do your research before posting garbage.


Danish Kaneria 261 wickets in 61 tests.

Yasir Shah 244 wickets in 44 Tests.


Muhammad Asif and Muhammad Amir would of shattered it.
 
Varun said:
Pakistan haven't produced a bowler who has played 50+ tests or taken 200+ wickets since Waqar Younis (debut 1989).

Amir with a bowling average greater than his mentor Salman Butt's batting average was going to be the last guy to overturn that.
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Amir would have comfortably achieved it if it wasn't for fixing. He lost 5 years and wasn't the same after. I am talking about pre fixing.
 
No team is a weak team against the present Pakistani team led by Babar Azam to be honest.
 
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