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Thousands of people have defied a curfew in Indian-administered Kashmir to attend the funeral of a schoolboy whose body was found riddled with pellet wounds, local media report.

Police reportedly fired teargas at mourners. Kashmir is under lockdown as protests against Indian rule continue.

More than 80 people, nearly all anti-government protesters, have died in more than two months of violence.

Nasir Shafi was found dead after going missing on Friday in Srinagar.

An almost complete curfew is now in place in Kashmir, part of the Muslim-majority Jammu and Kashmir state.

Why has Kashmir erupted in violence?

Some reports say Nasir Shafi was 11 years old.

Correspondents say restrictions on free movement and internet use are at their tightest since street demonstrations began on 9 July.

They were sparked by the killing of a popular militant leader in a gunfight with the army.

Security forces have continued to fire lethal shotgun pellets at protesters, despite the government saying it would use an alternative.

Disputed Kashmir is claimed in its entirety by both India and Pakistan and has been a flashpoint for more than 60 years, causing two wars between the neighbours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37395830
 
Disputed Kashmir is claimed in its entirety by both India and Pakistan and has been a flashpoint for more than 60 years, causing two wars between the neighbours

:shocked

RIP to the lad.
 
A lot of Kashmiris are so gifted and beautiful .

There was a girl in my college whose family is from Indian held kashmir .
Hazel eyes . Peaches and cream skintone and the brightest student in class .
Why would an army feel threatened by an 11 year old. Cowardice or hatred ?? Perhaps both .
 
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Some reports say the kid was 15. Nevertheless 11 or 15 lethal force shouldn't be used on protestors even if they are throwing rocks. India is going down a very dangerous path here.
 
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Sick & painful, lot of analysts now believe this terrorist like response from indian forces has more to do with Doval doctrine to create shock and fear. Gov. Jagmohan and the indian army has done this before in 90s also. Pakistan for a change stand for something that is based on principles, if Pakistan withdraws from its position then Kashmir will be tackled in a more sick manner, they'll do anything to make things stable, blonding youngsters, so be it. They aare protected by laws like AFSPA and PSA which gives them immunity to do what they wanteven out of the rules and procedures of the army command. India is creating a huge mess for itself just like 90s, the blowback will be different and much intensive. Doval and Modi might have calculated and prepared early but they don't have any idea about Punjabi and Kashmiris.
 
I have just seen photos of this 15 year old kids body - you won't believe how many holes his body has !

It's riddled with them all over his body. I obviously can't post pictures here but people can see them for themselves. They should because they should know exactly what's happening.

This was blatant murder. It can't be no accident. Trust me you are not human if those photos don't move you at all.

No wonder thousands defied the curfew after the latest murder.
 
At least 50 pellet holes, that's a minimum figure.

Just despicable, that's almost torturing someone to death.
 
50 pellet holes? This is horrible. Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'un.

How long can this zulm keep on going on? God, are you even watching?
 
Hate people using children in such causes

We are number one in mourning but who cares about the kids and their families?
 
Some reports say the kid was 15. Nevertheless 11 or 15 lethal force shouldn't be used on protestors even if they are throwing rocks. India is going down a very dangerous path here.

It has been happening for a long time, this is not new. There are no good guys in the military. It is just guys in uniform that has fetish for war, guns and etc. Most of the army men are aggressive, so they aren't the same ones who went to fight against the british for freedom. Don't need to feel bad, it is normal.
 
Now why doesn't Bharat tell the world who killed this kid and for what?? This only further complicates the Kashmir quagmire however Pak will never change it's stance to satisfy Bharat.
 
India isn't Israel and Kashmir isn't Jerusalem, India needs to remember that.

surprised the usual patriotic brigade is absent from this thread.
 
Kashmir remains on the boil with clashes in most towns amid curfew. A soldier is dead in an ongoing gunfight in handwara. Another teenage girl dies in Shopian. Death toll goes over 100+

Indian forces kill 13-year-old girl in held Kashmir

A teenage girl was killed and over a hundred people were injured after Indian forces used brute force to disperse protesters in Shopian and other areas of held kashmir, reported Kashmir Media Service.

The recent killing has raised the death toll to 105.

The 13-year-old girl, Khushboo Jan, a student of 7th class, suffered cardiac arrest after Indian police and troops resorted to excessive force on the protesters near Chatwatan area of Shopian district. She was shifted to a nearby hospital where doctors pronounced her dead.

Witnesses said that Government High School Chatwatan went up in flames when a teargas shell fired by the forces’ personnel landed inside it, said Kashmir Media Service.

“The building suffered an extensive damage,” they said.

“A residential house, a cowshed and apple carton also caught fire after shells landed inside them,” they added.

Meanwhile, over a hundred people were injured, many of them critically, due to the firing of pellets and teargas shells by Indian troops and police in Vihil, Srinagar, Ganderbal, Sopore, Kulgam and other areas of the occupied Kashmir Valley.

Kashmir Media Service has also reported that Indian troops vandalized the tents and took away 13 motor-bikes and later set them ablaze at Tarzoo in Sopore to prevent a pro-freedom rally.

Indian forces also damaged four houses in Kaimoh area of Kulgam. The forces’ personnel broke windowpanes of dozens of residential houses besides hurling abuses at the inmates at New Theed in Srinagar. The police also arrested several youth after beating them to pulp in the area.
 
^ what is a 13 yr old girl doing in protests? What kind of people use children as human shield?

This is all planned. Put children in the front line and when the child dies, use it to fan even bigger flames. It becomes great news as separatists and their sympathizers say that Indian army are killing children.

Absolute cowards for using kids to take on army.
 
^ what is a 13 yr old girl doing in protests? What kind of people use children as human shield?

This is all planned. Put children in the front line and when the child dies, use it to fan even bigger flames. It becomes great news as separatists and their sympathizers say that Indian army are killing children.

Absolute cowards for using kids to take on army.

What a ludicrous suggestion. Do you have any evidence, even a shred to suggest these protesters are using human shields ??

It's a disgusting allegation. Your Indian state has sent hundreds of thousands of troops to near their homes and if they dare come out and protest it's because they plan to get shot ?

No, the cowards are those that feel so intimidated by people protesting they they have to use high powered weapons so they feel comfortable. That's the truth, they know they are not welcome there and when they are told that in no uncertain terms by the people there they need to answer with arms because that's what they are trained to do.
 
What a ludicrous suggestion. Do you have any evidence, even a shred to suggest these protesters are using human shields ??

It's a disgusting allegation. Your Indian state has sent hundreds of thousands of troops to near their homes and if they dare come out and protest it's because they plan to get shot ?

No, the cowards are those that feel so intimidated by people protesting they they have to use high powered weapons so they feel comfortable. That's the truth, they know they are not welcome there and when they are told that in no uncertain terms by the people there they need to answer with arms because that's what they are trained to do.

Wow!

So what is a 13 yr old girl doing among protestors?

Where is the proof about your allegation. So you mean to say that the 13 yr old girl just stepped out of her house, took a couple of steps to protest army and the army men pushed her and she suffered cardiac arrest?

Nice story.

Mine is a disgusting allegation and yours is loaded with proof right?

Take off your green tint glasses.

Those kids should be in schools. Not taking on army. Cowards are those who use small kids to do their dirty work.
 
I am not saying this boy was but LTTE in the past and Mujahideen are known to use children as human bombs....There was a Vice documentary where a few kids belonging to the Taliban who were trained suicide bombers were caught early and attempt was made to rehabilitate them but guess what 90% of them turned back into the terrorism.
 
Wow!

So what is a 13 yr old girl doing among protestors?

Where is the proof about your allegation. So you mean to say that the 13 yr old girl just stepped out of her house, took a couple of steps to protest army and the army men pushed her and she suffered cardiac arrest?

Nice story.

Mine is a disgusting allegation and yours is loaded with proof right?

Take off your green tint glasses.

Those kids should be in schools. Not taking on army. Cowards are those who use small kids to do their dirty work.

Your imaginary scenario would be correct if the protestors were using live ammunition and not rocks and stones. Great attempt tho, learn something from your fellow patriotic and try to stay out of a thread where you can't defend the crimes of Indian army.
 
Your imaginary scenario would be correct if the protestors were using live ammunition and not rocks and stones. Great attempt tho, learn something from your fellow patriotic and try to stay out of a thread where you can't defend the crimes of Indian army.

Mine is imaginary and yours is full of facts.

My comment was on the 13yr old girl who suffered cardiac arrest.

Read below.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-against-pellet-guns/articleshow/53347343.cms

Kashmiri protestors have started using Acid bottles against army. Such innocents.

My stance on using kids against army does not change. Anyone who uses kids and teenagers to do their dirty job are just low life ****.
 
Mine is imaginary and yours is full of facts.

My comment was on the 13yr old girl who suffered cardiac arrest.

Read below.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-against-pellet-guns/articleshow/53347343.cms

Kashmiri protestors have started using Acid bottles against army. Such innocents.

My stance on using kids against army does not change. Anyone who uses kids and teenagers to do their dirty job are just low life ****.

How is my imaginary? When did protestor used live ammunition against the overly sensitive Indian occupying army? Can you please provide any evidence that isn't from Indian media?
 
Wow!

So what is a 13 yr old girl doing among protestors?

Where is the proof about your allegation. So you mean to say that the 13 yr old girl just stepped out of her house, took a couple of steps to protest army and the army men pushed her and she suffered cardiac arrest?

Nice story.

Mine is a disgusting allegation and yours is loaded with proof right?

Take off your green tint glasses.

Those kids should be in schools. Not taking on army. Cowards are those who use small kids to do their dirty work.

What's so wow about my response when it's you that have twisted the latest child killing ?

It's your Bharati army and security forces that are shooting people left right centre in Kashmir.

You are the one making the disgusting allegation that Kashmiris are using human shields without a shred of evidence. Why do I have to prove they don't when you are the one making the allegation without proof in the first place ?

What about the kid getting more than 50 pellets pierced through his body ? Was he used as a shield as well ?

No one believes your nonsense theories apart from your fellow compatriots. You are convincing or fooling no one else.
 
What's so wow about my response when it's you that have twisted the latest child killing ?

It's your Bharati army and security forces that are shooting people left right centre in Kashmir.

You are the one making the disgusting allegation that Kashmiris are using human shields without a shred of evidence. Why do I have to prove they don't when you are the one making the allegation without proof in the first place ?

What about the kid getting more than 50 pellets pierced through his body ? Was he used as a shield as well ?

No one believes your nonsense theories apart from your fellow compatriots. You are convincing or fooling no one else.


If I am throwing stones at Pak army and put my kids in front of me, my kids will be in danger.

Hope you understand this logic.

Kids have no business standing up against Army. This is not medieval times.
 
Ok so a child being killed by the terrorist Indian Army is obviously because said child was a human shield.

Some people have no limits to their ignorance.

No wonder the million strong army in Occupied Kashmir cannot dare raise the Indian flag openly.
 
Ok so a child being killed by the terrorist Indian Army is obviously because said child was a human shield.

Some people have no limits to their ignorance.

No wonder the million strong army in Occupied Kashmir cannot dare raise the Indian flag openly.

The so called freedom fighters are not known to play fair and have a history of using women and children as weapons to further their holy cause......if this kid died on his way to school or on a playground that would be a grave tragedy and even if this was because of an Indian army personnel I would have asked for him to be punished but there is more to this
 
Ok so a child being killed by the terrorist Indian Army is obviously because said child was a human shield.

Some people have no limits to their ignorance.

No wonder the million strong army in Occupied Kashmir cannot dare raise the Indian flag openly.

"The 13-year-old girl, Khushboo Jan, a student of 7th class, suffered cardiac arrest after Indian police and troops resorted to excessive force on the protesters near Chatwatan area of Shopian district. She was shifted to a nearby hospital where doctors pronounced her dead."

Read it again. The girl died when Indian army used excessive force to disperse the protesters.

So what is she doing among protesters?

So great of separatists and their paid goons to have a child among them. If the child dies, its a double win for them as it will fan even more anger and rage.

I am still waiting for the Geelanis and Yasins to put their Sons and daughters and Grand Daughters in front of army. But wait, they are all well settled in various parts of India and abroad.
 
"The 13-year-old girl, Khushboo Jan, a student of 7th class, suffered cardiac arrest after Indian police and troops resorted to excessive force on the protesters near Chatwatan area of Shopian district. She was shifted to a nearby hospital where doctors pronounced her dead."

Read it again. The girl died when Indian army used excessive force to disperse the protesters.

So what is she doing among protesters?

So great of separatists and their paid goons to have a child among them. If the child dies, its a double win for them as it will fan even more anger and rage.

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if you say so, thn Okay,
btw can you tell me about the 11 yr old schoolboy ?
 
if you say so, thn Okay,
btw can you tell me about the 11 yr old schoolboy ?

What if I say so? I commented on what was posted by Bade496 about the School Girl. He made it look like Indian army targeted the innocent school girl when she was playing in a park. As usual posters were quick to vilify Indian army.

Clearly the cowards used the girl amidst them knowing that she cannot take any kind of force. Now that she died, they can whine more about it and cause more mayhem.

My comment was specifically on that 13 yr old school girl.
 
The so called freedom fighters are not known to play fair and have a history of using women and children as weapons to further their holy cause......if this kid died on his way to school or on a playground that would be a grave tragedy and even if this was because of an Indian army personnel I would have asked for him to be punished but there is more to this

Sorry.

All those people using kids as shields while carrying out their acts are freedom fighters. Very true.
 
Let's hope these cowards stop bringing kids to their own suicide missions.
 
It is sickening to see some degenerate posters spit on the death of this lad by defending his murderers.

Lets just mourn the death of an innocent youngster who will never go to school, get an education, get married, have kids, revel in the happiness of close ones or laugh and joke with friends.

In any part of the world, victory at the expense of the innocent is no victory at all.
 
This is indian copy/pasting from israeli media, proves where india stands now.

Alright. You posted some news to malign Indian army. I presented my view to debunk your theory. Nothing more here.

Where did Israel come into the picture here. Take Rest.
 
Bullets vs stone, we all know who is coward

When 20-30 army men are surrounded by a mob of 200-300 people ready to lynch them, army will have no other option.

Easy to sit in a chair and comment.

Still. Army should have shown more retraint even if it means they will be killed.
 
When 20-30 army men are surrounded by a mob of 200-300 people ready to lynch them, army will have no other option.

Easy to sit in a chair and comment.

Still. Army should have shown more retraint even if it means they will be killed.

and what about ONE 11 yr old kid ?
 
Youth killed, 30 injured in Kashmir clashes

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A youth was killed and over 30 were injured today in clashes between stone-pelting mobs and security forces in Kashmir where curfew was imposed in some parts of Srinagar district and restrictions were in place elsewhere in the valley in view of separatist call for protests.

A 22-year-old youth Wasim Ahmad Lone died when security forces opened fire to disperse a stone-pelting mob in Nadihal area on Sopore-Kupwara road in Baramulla district, police said.

The incident occurred when a mob targeted a convoy of security forces by pelting stones as it was on its way from Sopore to Kupwara, a police official said.

To disperse the mob, the security forces opened fire in which Lone was injured in the chest. He was rushed to district hospital Baramulla but the doctors declared him 'brought dead', the official said.

The local residents, however, claimed that Lone was not part of the protestors and was harvesting paddy in his field when the army opened fire.

The police official said the law enforcing agencies were trying to restore order in the area.

Following the death, fresh protests broke out in Nadihal and adjoining areas, the police official said.

With this death, the toll in the ongoing unrest, which began after killing of Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani in an encounter on July 8, has risen to 83.

Clashes between security forces and stone-pelting mobs were also reported from several other areas of the valley in which at least 30 people were injured. These places included Chrar-e-Sharief in Budgam district and Old Barzulla area of Srinagar, the official said.

Authorities had imposed curfew in parts of Srinagar in view of the apprehensions of law and order problems after Friday congregational prayers, even as normal life remained affected in the Valley for the 77th straight day.

Curfew was imposed in five police station areas of downtown Srinagar and Batamaloo and Maisuma areas in the uptown city, the official said.

He said the curbs on the movement of people were imposed as there were apprehensions of law and order problems in view of the Friday congregational prayers.

Restrictions on the assembly of people under Section 144 CrPc remained in force in rest of the Valley.

The separatists, who are spearheading the current agitation in the Valley, have extended the protest programme till September 29 but have announced periods of relaxation in the strike on some days, unlike the previous week's protest programme where there was no relaxation.

They had called for marches to various tehsil headquarters across the Valley today.

Due to the restrictions and separatist-sponsored strike, shops, business establishments and petrol pumps continued to remain shut in Srinagar and elsewhere in the Valley, while public transport was off the roads.

Schools, colleges and other educational institutions also continued to remain shut.

Mobile internet services also remained suspended, while the outgoing calls on prepaid numbers continued to remain barred across the Valley.
 
Really sad to see the situation that Kashmiris are in, being totally oppressed yet they still have the heart to go out and protest for their lost ones, for their freedom and for their own land.
 
India imposes curfew across occupied Kashmir on Burhan Wani's 3rd martyrdom anniversary

A complete shutdown, marked by curfew imposed by Indian forces, was observed across occupied Kashmir on Monday to commemorate the third martyrdom anniversary of Burhan Muzaffar Wani, an iconic young mujahid commander, Kashmir Media Service (KMS) reported.

The shutdown call was issued by the Joint Resistance Leadership in order to pay tribute to Wani and his associates. Wani, who was chief of operations in Hizbul Mujahideen, the largest and mainly indigenous fighter group in Indian-occupied Kashmir, was martyred along with two other colleagues by the Indian army during an alleged encounter in Bamdoora village of held Kashmir’s Kokernag area on July 8, 2016.


The authorities sealed Wani's house as well as the graveyard where he is buried in his hometown Tral. All roads leading to the town were also completely blocked with concertina wires to prevent people from marching towards his house.


According to KMS, internet services in Islamabad (Anantnag), Pulwama, Kulgam and Shopian districts were also suspended. In Srinagar, Indian forces arrested two young men for putting up pro-Wani posters.

Thousands of Indian soldiers, paramilitary forces and police personnel were deployed across occupied Kashmir to enforce strict curfew. Special restrictions were placed in areas falling under the jurisdiction of police stations, including Maisuma, KralKhud, Khanyar, Nowahatta, SafaKadal, Maharaj Gunj and Rainawari in Srinagar.

Despite restrictions, thousands of posters carrying Wani's pictures, saying 'March Towards Tral', were seen on highways and streets of major cities in occupied Kashmir, including Srinagar, Budgam, Ganderbal, Kulgam and Islamabad as well as other districts and cities, KMS said. In Wani's hometown Tral, graffiti portraying his face and messages of support emerged on shutters and walls.

Burhan Wani
The son of a school headmaster, Wani had become the iconic face of armed struggle in Indian-occupied Kashmir since 2011. Dressed in military fatigues and holding assault guns, he would regularly post video messages on social media sites and invite young men to join anti-India struggle.

In the wake of his martyrdom, the held territory underwent the longest ever curfew of more than 100 days during which scores of people were mercilessly killed and injured by the occupation forces while trying in vain to suppress massive anti-India protest demonstrations.

Contrary to New Delhi’s assumptions, Wani’s elimination is believed to have revitalised the popular anti-India movement with the inclusion of hundreds of educated youngsters.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1492834/i...mir-on-burhan-wanis-3rd-martyrdom-anniversary
 
False Flag attack is imminent in IOK

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I read India are sending another 10,000 troops to occupied Kashmir.

Most likey they are upset Trump and Khan got on well and mentioned Kashmir to the whole world. They probably want the narrative to shift back on Pakistan 'harbouring terrorists' and 'planning attacks' against India.

If they are planning a false flag, they need to do a better job than Pulwama.

Hope the Kashmiri's stay safe.
 
It's called "false encounter". Search it on google...there are hundreds of cases of the Indian Army doing encounters like this. Nothing new.
 
It's called "false encounter". Search it on google...there are hundreds of cases of the Indian Army doing encounters like this. Nothing new.

Nothing came up apart from 'fake encounter'.

False flag is a common term when governments set up an attack, blame others for their own interests. Mumbai, 911, Pulwama etc.

Indian troops should wake up, 10,000 are being sent and some may be killed off to give the upper hand back to India on Kashmir. Dhoni being sent there could be an issue if he is hurt in any attack. The Indian public will defo demand some sort of revenge attack in this scenario.
 

Need domestic public support and to try to shut up those who were to criticize Indian army murdering thousands of Kashmiri Muslims, and International support to repopulate Kashmir with hindutva.

But this time I doubt India government will try to enter Pakistan, will only do shelling at the LOC.

Gullible Indians.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Srinagar: In view of the ongoing situation in Kashmir valley, Government has put the Air Force and the Army on high operational alert. <a href="https://t.co/pt36FNkC3g">https://t.co/pt36FNkC3g</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1157139632292655105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Srinagar: In view of the ongoing situation in Kashmir valley, Government has put the Air Force and the Army on high operational alert. <a href="https://t.co/pt36FNkC3g">https://t.co/pt36FNkC3g</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1157139632292655105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What situation? Have i missed something?
 
What situation? Have i missed something?

There are reports that not only are they moving the 35,000 extra troops, J&K Police is being disarmed, security is being removed from courts and shrines etc, and Mehbooba Mufti is reportedly ready to lay down her life for Article 35A, which is interesting in that it follows after Farooq “Dand”’s meeting with Modi. Maybe she knows something.

I’m curious, if the Indians do make a move on the article, do you think the NC and the PDP will finally see the light of day?
 
After note bandhi kashmiri separatists gave up they used to issue monthly shout down calendars.
 
There are reports that not only are they moving the 35,000 extra troops, J&K Police is being disarmed, security is being removed from courts and shrines etc, and Mehbooba Mufti is reportedly ready to lay down her life for Article 35A, which is interesting in that it follows after Farooq “Dand”’s meeting with Modi. Maybe she knows something.

I’m curious, if the Indians do make a move on the article, do you think the NC and the PDP will finally see the light of day?

Yes i know that they are reinforcing security. However, they have categorically mentioned that it isnt about article 35A. I know we cant trust them but the BJP's top leader Ram Madhav and state governor are on record saying that it isnt about 35A. Apparently these reinforcements are being sent in after Indian NSA, Snake Doval, visited Kashmir. There is a bit of confusion what the purpose actually is. Farooq Dand himself is being investigated now for corruption during his tenure as the head of JK cricket association. Last few days have been turbulent for him.

But what exactly is the "situation" they are talking about? What has specifically happened? I am not sure. Just a lot of confusion.

NC and PDP will never see the light. They are filled with vipers and scorpions. They are the brand ambassadors of opportunism. If Article 35A is removed, they will do some drama for a while and eventually grab whatever bone they can get from India. The purpose of their existence is to stay selfishly stay in power at any cost.
 
After note bandhi kashmiri separatists gave up they used to issue monthly shout down calendars.

The struggle is continuous but the uprisings are spontaneous and need triggers. Separatists can't create uprisings out of nothing. If you study this conflict you will see that the uprisings are periodic in nature and can take place after years of calm. They are not yearly affairs. Note bandhi didnt do jack squat. J&K was the least affected state by it if you followed the news those days.
 
Yes i know that they are reinforcing security. However, they have categorically mentioned that it isnt about article 35A. I know we cant trust them but the BJP's top leader Ram Madhav and state governor are on record saying that it isnt about 35A. Apparently these reinforcements are being sent in after Indian NSA, Snake Doval, visited Kashmir. There is a bit of confusion what the purpose actually is. Farooq Dand himself is being investigated now for corruption during his tenure as the head of JK cricket association. Last few days have been turbulent for him.

But what exactly is the "situation" they are talking about? What has specifically happened? I am not sure. Just a lot of confusion.

NC and PDP will never see the light. They are filled with vipers and scorpions. They are the brand ambassadors of opportunism. If Article 35A is removed, they will do some drama for a while and eventually grab whatever bone they can get from India. The purpose of their existence is to stay selfishly stay in power at any cost.

I did read about the investigation about the corruption in the cricket association. I guess one can’t put it beyond Farooq Dand trying to cut some sort of a deal on the article in exchange for the investigation going away? Then again, what if the Indians decide he is now dispensable? His father once led the Plebiscite Front during his years in the wilderness before 1975.

You’re probably right about the opportunism of the two parties. I wonder though, if there’s enough of a public backlash and they see the tide turn, that very opportunism could force them to break with India. Just a thought.
 
The struggle is continuous but the uprisings are spontaneous and need triggers. Separatists can't create uprisings out of nothing. If you study this conflict you will see that the uprisings are periodic in nature and can take place after years of calm. They are not yearly affairs. Note bandhi didnt do jack squat. J&K was the least affected state by it if you followed the news those days.

There were so many opportunities for mass uprising after note bandhi but nothing happened.This is another golden opportunity but nobody cares at least ask separatists to issue some empty statements
 
I did read about the investigation about the corruption in the cricket association. I guess one can’t put it beyond Farooq Dand trying to cut some sort of a deal on the article in exchange for the investigation going away? Then again, what if the Indians decide he is now dispensable? His father once led the Plebiscite Front during his years in the wilderness before 1975.

You’re probably right about the opportunism of the two parties. I wonder though, if there’s enough of a public backlash and they see the tide turn, that very opportunism could force them to break with India. Just a thought.

Yes Farooq dand would surely cut some deal with Indians to get rid of investigations against him. However, why would India offer him a deal at all? He doesnt hold much power in J&K. If he was a chief minister now, perhaps he could have done something for India. In the 90s when he was the CM of the state, Indian leadership travelled to Kashmiri and begged him to not raise the Kashmir issue internationally. They went to the extent of offering the state more autonomy. India was in a weak financial position at the time and needed help from various international bodies. They couldnt afford negative press at the time. But fast forward today, dand has nothing to offer.

These snakes will never break with India. Take this from me in writing. The backlash against them and India has been perpetual since 7 decades. Yes, their opportunism can force them to turn against India but that will only happen when they are 100% sure that J&K is on the verge of getting freedom. As of now, that can only happen if war breaks out and Pakistan emerges on top.
 
There were so many opportunities for mass uprising after note bandhi but nothing happened.This is another golden opportunity but nobody cares at least ask separatists to issue some empty statements

No. There hasn't been a strong enough trigger yet and enough tension has not built up yet. 3-4 uprisings in this decade have released a lot of tension. We'll have to wait for a while.
 
Yes i know that they are reinforcing security. However, they have categorically mentioned that it isnt about article 35A. I know we cant trust them but the BJP's top leader Ram Madhav and state governor are on record saying that it isnt about 35A. Apparently these reinforcements are being sent in after Indian NSA, Snake Doval, visited Kashmir. There is a bit of confusion what the purpose actually is. Farooq Dand himself is being investigated now for corruption during his tenure as the head of JK cricket association. Last few days have been turbulent for him.

But what exactly is the "situation" they are talking about? What has specifically happened? I am not sure. Just a lot of confusion.

NC and PDP will never see the light. They are filled with vipers and scorpions. They are the brand ambassadors of opportunism. If Article 35A is removed, they will do some drama for a while and eventually grab whatever bone they can get from India. The purpose of their existence is to stay selfishly stay in power at any cost.

Agreed.. The meeting of Farooq Dand with modi after his scam is worrying me. They might have done some agreement. These are Pigs
 
Agreed.. The meeting of Farooq Dand with modi after his scam is worrying me. They might have done some agreement. These are Pigs

Now an executive order from the government has urged Tourists and Hindu pilgrims of Amarnath yatra to flee J&K as soon as possible.

What the hell is going on? What is India up to?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a>: BIG DEVELOPMENT IN KASHMIR. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Amarnath?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Amarnath</a> pilgrims in Kashmir advised to curtail their stay in Kashmir valley due to prevailing security situation immediately and take measures to return immediately. <a href="https://t.co/U7ysfAjawZ">pic.twitter.com/U7ysfAjawZ</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1157234373420302336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
No. There hasn't been a strong enough trigger yet and enough tension has not built up yet. 3-4 uprisings in this decade have released a lot of tension. We'll have to wait for a while.
You need financial support it's like organising a mega event, you need support at various levels.Proper channeling of resources are very important.During 2016 uprising my friend working in a regional TV channel(pro bjp) told me that management were pushing them to telecast special reports about KI apart from day to day reporting.Some of your media were offering paid internship for journalism students during those days.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a>: BIG DEVELOPMENT IN KASHMIR. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Amarnath?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Amarnath</a> pilgrims in Kashmir advised to curtail their stay in Kashmir valley due to prevailing security situation immediately and take measures to return immediately. <a href="https://t.co/U7ysfAjawZ">pic.twitter.com/U7ysfAjawZ</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1157234373420302336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just saw on Twitter its fake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good rumor killing here: <a href="https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15">https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15</a></p>— F. Jeffery (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1157249249517690880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Just saw on Twitter its fake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good rumor killing here: <a href="https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15">https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15</a></p>— F. Jeffery (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1157249249517690880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That tweet was before this development... Pilgrims being asked to curtail their stay is legit.

Something's cooking.
 
You need financial support it's like organising a mega event, you need support at various levels.Proper channeling of resources are very important.During 2016 uprising my friend working in a regional TV channel(pro bjp) told me that management were pushing them to telecast special reports about KI apart from day to day reporting.Some of your media were offering paid internship for journalism students during those days.

Financial support is not needed to trigger an uprising. That is always spontaneous. Finance is only necessary to lengthen the duration of uprising by circulating money in the community so that it can withstand the economic losses. The trigger is missing and so is the tension that builds up before the trigger. Role of money comes next.
 
Just saw on Twitter its fake.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good rumor killing here: <a href="https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15">https://t.co/HUgUvwCT15</a></p>— F. Jeffery (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1157249249517690880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not fake news.

They are asking tourists to leave.

Where should Kashmiris go? Should we also leave to save our lives? Dont know what the direction for us is.
 
Seem like staging hysteria and chaos to legitimize what’s to come.

Indian media and government has already starting to throw around Pakistan name.

This whole thing seem staged.
 
Unconfirmed reports say that GOI will make Jammu a separate state. Kashmir and Ladakh as Union territories. Meaning they can't have any political party and will be controlled by Delhi based Governor forever. Order will be made in next week. Curfew will be imposed ahead of the order. It will automatically end article 370
 
If true this in an interesting development.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RE</a> | Halfway home in Kashmir: How Amit Shah has tamed some of the fiercest anti-India voices in the Valley | <a href="https://twitter.com/majidhyderi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@majidhyderi</a> | <a href="https://t.co/zPdMZlbT5Q">https://t.co/zPdMZlbT5Q</a> <a href="https://t.co/tT7AKvyf6r">pic.twitter.com/tT7AKvyf6r</a></p>— DailyO (@DailyO_) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyO_/status/1157249811785093121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
These snakes will never break with India. Take this from me in writing. The backlash against them and India has been perpetual since 7 decades. Yes, their opportunism can force them to turn against India but that will only happen when they are 100% sure that J&K is on the verge of getting freedom. As of now, that can only happen if war breaks out and Pakistan emerges on top.

Well, if the rumors about Jammu being carved out of the state, and the valley being declared a union territory with no political parties allowed, turn out to be true, this would be the end of whatever influence NC and PDP have. I wonder what their opportunism will compel them to do then.
 
Well, if the rumors about Jammu being carved out of the state, and the valley being declared a union territory with no political parties allowed, turn out to be true, this would be the end of whatever influence NC and PDP have. I wonder what their opportunism will compel them to do then.

They are infact raising hue and cry for the same reason. They are in massive panic because the throne they spilt the Kashmiri blood for is being taken away from them. Rest assured, any move they make is for their own personal greed. I am not sure if they will still let go of India.
 
They are infact raising hue and cry for the same reason. They are in massive panic because the throne they spilt the Kashmiri blood for is being taken away from them. Rest assured, any move they make is for their own personal greed. I am not sure if they will still let go of India.

You’re right, there’s a sense of panic, so much so that there are pictures doing the rounds of all parties meeting in the middle of the night, with Farooq saying an All Parties Conference will he called once Umar Abdullah is back in the state, and Mehbooba Mufti trying to break through a security cordon around her house.

Stay safe, [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] and all our other Kashmiri posters. We watch impotently from afar, but our hearts beat with yours. That may not count for much in practical terms, but it’s all we can offer.
 
7 injured, 3 critical in grenade attack in Srinagar

SRINAGAR: At least seven people were injured in Jammu and Kashmir's Srinagar after a grenade attack by terrorists in a market area on Saturday, police said. Three civilians are in a critical condition and all injured have been shifted to a hospital.
The attack comes despite tight security in Jammu and Kashmir since the centre revoked the state's decades-old special privileges on August 5.

The attack took place at Hari Singh High Street Market, which is a few hundred metres away from the city centre Lal Chowk, a police official said.

The Kashmir Zone Police tweeted that the area has been cordoned off and a search is in progress. Jammu and Kashmir police and the CRPF are conducting a search.

The shops in the market were shut but a few vendors had set up stalls in the area, police told news agency PTI.

On Monday, postpaid mobile connections will be restored in Jammu and Kashmir, the state announced today.

On October 5, terrorists had thrown a grenade in south Kashmir's Anantnag. Around 14 people were injured in the attack that took place outside the District Collector's office

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/7-i...ists-in-srinagar-2115764?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
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