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Which side will emerge as victors in the Battle of New York on 9th June?

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No more excuses, none of "If only x player' was playing for Pakistan, result would be different because as far as I know, the tooth fairy has granted all wishes for everybody 😀

So now time to look at strengths of both sides and using every analytical brain cell we gave, answer a simple question in the poll...
 
In terms of analytical brain power, Pakistan has a 10-15% chance of winning which is greater then 2023 cause over their it was 0.

Amir and Naseem strengthen the bowling, spin has abrar now and imad opening the bowling is good plus he's a reliable lower order bat, thank god nawaz is gone.

Usman khan and saim are better editions then Abdullah and saud were for odi.

Lower order is weak though, Shadab and chacha ain't good and rizzu 110 sr in psl is a huge concern.
 
Both India and Pakistan will play safe and cautiously. I don't expect a high scoring match. Both teams will pack their players with well known names who play slow and steady.
 
We have a decent chance of winning a T20 with the squad we have picked.

Recent indo pak T20 have been close.
 
Recently at least in T20Is. The gap between these two teams have shrunken. You can expect another close counter.
 
Madison Square Garden will host its most important duel of all time this year with this match.

It will be named Shaheen Square Garden from that game onwards after what Shaheen is about to do to Indian team.

He has blood on in his mind after Babargate.
 
Suleiman said:
Madison Square Garden will host its most important duel of all time this year with this match.

It will be named Shaheen Square Garden from that game onwards after what Shaheen is about to do to Indian team.

He has blood on in his mind after Babargate.
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He lost both pace and swing.
 
If India continues to pick the same depleted players like Jadeja,Ashwin,Axar, Rahul then Pakistan will easily win.

Ipl is ending on 28th of May and our team won’t even have one proper week to reassemble and finalise a good playing eleven or even a good squad.
 
Bumrah concerns me. If he doesn’t play, or has a rare off-day, I’d be somewhat optimistic. If not, I’d expect India to win fairly comfortably.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
We have a decent chance of winning a T20 with the squad we have picked.

Recent indo pak T20 have been close.
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@Rajdeep

What's wrong with what he's said? He said something factual in regards to recent t20 encounters?

As for chances, India is ahead no doubt but 2024 Pakistan is superior to 2023 Pakistan by miles.

2024 has a genuine specialist spinner, a genuine specialist allrounder, 2 pacers Amir and Naseem who are superior to rauf and hasan has been ali as well as a proper backup keeper who can play spin well and bash?

2023 Pakistan team had a non firing batting lineup as everyone was a bloody accumulator, the lower order with shadab and nawaz was non-existent, and the bowlers were virtual run machines?

India is superior but laughing emoji acting as if they'll stomp 100% is being ignorant.
 
Pakistan is the more talented and a better selected side . They will obviously start off as favourites especially in a format where their fast bowlers don't have the physical burden of bowling more than 24 balls which most of them can't handle.

India will keep selecting Rohit, Jadeja, Kohli , KL etc. and find themselves extremely vulnerable .

Advantage PAK.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan is the more talented and a better selected side . They will obviously start off as favourites especially in a format where their fast bowlers don't have the physical burden of bowling more than 24 balls which most of them can't handle.

India will keep selecting Rohit, Jadeja, Kohli , KL etc. and find themselves extremely vulnerable .

Advantage PAK.
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I wouldn't be too sure about that bro, people are overrating Pakistan squad. It's a massive improvement over the joke 2023 squad but it isnt without problems.

Rizwan's psl form and his recent sr means that he's a huge liability at opening in PP1 and if the rumors are true then babar and rizwan opening will cause problems, as saim, would play out of position.

Theirs also the fakhar zaman vs Usman Khan dilemma and if usman gets shoved to no 5 then another out of position player who might not do well lower down.

Chacha and shadab aren't good players by any means and imad logically should be batting at no 5 as psl showed no 5 is his ideal position but Pakistan isn't gonna do that and will make him bat at no 7.

Bowlers this time around are more settled with Amir, Shaheen and naseem spearheading the attack with abrar being rhe specialist spinner.
 
mominsaigol said:
I wouldn't be too sure about that bro, people are overrating Pakistan squad. It's a massive improvement over the joke 2023 squad but it isnt without problems.

Rizwan's psl form and his recent sr means that he's a huge liability at opening in PP1 and if the rumors are true then babar and rizwan opening will cause problems, as saim, would play out of position.

Theirs also the fakhar zaman vs Usman Khan dilemma and if usman gets shoved to no 5 then another out of position player who might not do well lower down.

Chacha and shadab aren't good players by any means and imad logically should be batting at no 5 as psl showed no 5 is his ideal position but Pakistan isn't gonna do that and will make him bat at no 7.

Bowlers this time around are more settled with Amir, Shaheen and naseem spearheading the attack with abrar being rhe specialist spinner.
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To be honest , Rizwan is the only real issue in that batting line up. Babar is the better anchor-type player and you can't afford more than 1.

India have too many weaknesses to plug and gets tied down by simple match ups way too often.
 
India is too powerpacked in the batting department i.e. Rohit, Jaiswal, Surya, Hardhik, Kohli, Rittu Singh, Jitesh Sharma, Tilak Varma, Dube, Kishan, Pant, Axar Patel, Jadeja, all batters who can hit sixes at will. Pakistan does not have the batting firepower, bowling quality to compete, lets not even talk about the fielding and fitness standards.
 
Pakistan look rejuvenated with Amir and Imad back. Also Babar back at helm means the team is once again lead by a lion.

There are reports that all top teams are **** scared of this force after the hardcore military training undergone by them.

Order the cake... :inti
 
Pakistani bowlers expose India's top order on picthes that will do a bit. But Pakistani batsman are a different league. I don't get it. Their batsman get to face their bowlers in the nets day in and out and still play poorly.

Fakhar Zaman should play, if it is his day then he can make it count.
 
the good thing is, its being played in new York and not in India.
this time round India wont be able to tamper with the pitch
bumrah will fail pitches wont be tailormade for him
 
Don’t get fooled by the pre match hype Pak don’t do wins against Ind in world cups & wins in Aus the 2 things that matter!
 
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emranabbas said:
the good thing is, its being played in new York and not in India.
this time round India wont be able to tamper with the pitch
bumrah will fail pitches wont be tailormade for him
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ICC = BCCI. NY pitch will be tampered to favour India :srini
 
Saim Ayub could be the differnce. If he scores more than 65 runs, we win else we lose.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
If India continues to pick the same depleted players like Jadeja,Ashwin,Axar, Rahul then Pakistan will easily win.

Ipl is ending on 28th of May and our team won’t even have one proper week to reassemble and finalise a good playing eleven or even a good squad.
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That should tell you all you need to know about how much importance BCCI is giving to T20WC vs. IPL.
 
With washed up players india is making things closer and closer.Team management cares about pr and safety instead of ruthlessness and excellence.I think either jaiswal or rinku will missout due to old guard .If kohli places in place of jaiswal,start will be stalled.If rinku is missing, pandya and jadeja can't accelerate.
 
The last 2 encounters have been incredible.

152/0 by Babar and Rizwan along with Shaheen’s great bowling

Kohli’s masterclass innings

Looking forward to another amazing encounter. A lot will matter on the team selection and the conditions.
 
160KPH said:
The last 2 encounters have been incredible.

152/0 by Babar and Rizwan along with Shaheen’s great bowling

Kohli’s masterclass innings

Looking forward to another amazing encounter. A lot will matter on the team selection and the conditions.
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It's best if Pakistan chases instead of batting first. All encounters we've had with them since 2021 have been won via chasing
 
mominsaigol said:
It's best if Pakistan chases instead of batting first. All encounters we've had with them since 2021 have been won via chasing
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I think those kind of made up picthes will remain true for the entire match.so u should be careful where u want to put the stress on weak batting or strong bowling .
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan is the more talented and a better selected side . They will obviously start off as favourites especially in a format where their fast bowlers don't have the physical burden of bowling more than 24 balls which most of them can't handle.

India will keep selecting Rohit, Jadeja, Kohli , KL etc. and find themselves extremely vulnerable .

Advantage PAK.
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If Rohit gets going, he will put odds in favor of India 90-10. I don't know why Indians don't like him playing. Ever since altering his tempo of the game, he has become even more dangerous.
Although I do think India have better batters than KL. Pant should be a straight swap for him.
 
Going to be a close match. I expect our boys to get it over the line hopefully but you never know when Kohli can single handedly whoop the whole team's behind.
 
India playing XI against Pak

1. Y. Jaiswal
2. R. Sharma
3. V. Kohli
4. SKY
5. KL Rahul (WK)
6. Hardik Pandya
7. Ravindra Jadeja
8.Kuldeep
9. Arshadeep Singh
10. Bumrah
11. Mayank Yadav

Not a bad team at all..
 
T20 is the only format where we can come close to beating IND.

Why?

Because highest chance of flukes.

It’s a matter of only a few overs.
 
India's weakest format vs Pakistan's strongest. Most Indian players are out of form and our selectors, coaches, captains, seniors don't understand the format.

Back Pakistan to win this one unless the friction in their camp due to Babargate pulls down everyone in their team.
 
Swashbuckler said:
India's weakest format vs Pakistan's strongest. Most Indian players are out of form and our selectors, coaches, captains, seniors don't understand the format.

Back Pakistan to win this one unless the friction in their camp due to Babargate pulls down everyone in their team.
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No one is out of form in T20 format, it is just a matter of hitting/edging for fours through thirdman/fineleg.
 
IamIndian said:
India playing XI against Pak



5. KL Rahul (WK)

Not a bad team at all..
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Are u dravid in disguise to pick kl after his iconic innings in finals 🙂?He has multiple failures and he is playing as an opener in ipl.Pant should be there or in worst case may be Samson on form basis.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
If Rohit gets going, he will put odds in favor of India 90-10. I don't know why Indians don't like him playing. Ever since altering his tempo of the game, he has become even more dangerous.
Although I do think India have better batters than KL. Pant should be a straight swap for him.
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The problem with playing Rohit or anyone one of them is that it necessarily means the others will also be selected. The Indian white ball set up needs a fresh start.
 
Amir,Naseem Shaheen. Play them first :).

But in all honesty as usual high pressure game this.

I feel we if we are bowling first we should attack with 4 pacers where as not sure of the playing conditions in the new stadium might offer turn and grip so we could rely more on Imad and Shadab, then you have Ifti and Saim to turn Arm over. That bolsters our attack.

My team for the game would be

Babar
Rizwan
Saim
Usman
Shadab
Fakhar
Ifti
Imad
Shaheen
Naseem
Amir

I’d bank on this team to triumph on the 9th June.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
The problem with playing Rohit or anyone one of them is that it necessarily means the others will also be selected.
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Oldies are costing the team and selectors/coach is dumb enough to let it happen. This wc team should be like 2007 model with youngsters but greed doesn't have limit
 
Nikhil_cric said:
The problem with playing Rohit or anyone one of them is that it necessarily means the others will also be selected. The Indian white ball set up needs a fresh start.
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Rohit and Kohli are class apart from the others you mentioned. Why would the others be selected automatically then?
As a Pakistani fan, I would feel more at ease if Kohli and Rohit aren't in the opposition.
 
IamIndian said:
India playing XI against Pak

1. Y. Jaiswal
2. R. Sharma
3. V. Kohli
4. SKY
5. KL Rahul (WK)
6. Hardik Pandya
7. Ravindra Jadeja
8.Kuldeep
9. Arshadeep Singh
10. Bumrah
11. Mayank Yadav

Not a bad team at all..
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Awful team mate...bolded players are LOL worthy :ROFLMAO:
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Rohit and Kohli are class apart from the others you mentioned. Why would the others be selected automatically then?
As a Pakistani fan, I would feel more at ease if Kohli and Rohit aren't in the opposition.
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Rohit in ODIs and Rohit in T20's are 2 different players

He hasn't done anything in T20's for a very long time.

Kohli is a liability in the middle overs and can't hit spin at all.

He gets away with it by opening in IPL but plays at #3 for India.

There are better options available currently.
 
I hope ind loses to pak this time as they are not winning t20wc anyway. Outdated par score assess the conditions nonsense by the seniors.. all Tuk tuk statpadders.. I shudder - ind top order will have these many statpadders- rohit gill kohli klrahul jadeja pandya.. only jaiswal and sky are fast.. and high probability they will drop jaiswal as you cant have 8 batsmen more so if he has a poor ipl and his "average" is less - conveniently forgetting his SR. And do not see a place for rinku as he's not "experienced " enough as per TM

A win over pak covers all these up even if Ind crashes out in sf.. but a defeat hopefully means kicking these senior leeches out forever and benefiting ind cricket. Dont want to see these leeches still in contention for 2025 CT..
 
People who are adding Mayank's name here, please calm down a little bit. You never know the same Mayank might get destroyed in the remaining matches (as this tournament is very long), and he may never even get his debut match after that. So wait for the IPL to finish, at least.
 
It is better for India if they lose this one, because only after that will BCCI take strong action against these oldies. If they win against Pakistan, and if they lose the World Cup, these oldies will still be selected for future tournaments on the basis of their win against Pakistan.
 
Savak said:
India is too powerpacked in the batting department i.e. Rohit, Jaiswal, Surya, Hardhik, Kohli, Rittu Singh, Jitesh Sharma, Tilak Varma, Dube, Kishan, Pant, Axar Patel, Jadeja, all batters who can hit sixes at will. Pakistan does not have the batting firepower, bowling quality to compete, lets not even talk about the fielding and fitness standards.
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Just because a team is powerpacked in the batting department doesn't mean they will win. At the end of the day, its 11 vs. 11. Of the names you mentioned, maybe 7 will play. And even some of them are completely unproven on the international level or against a high-quality T20 bowling attack like Pakistan's.
 
India's challenge will be finding the right balance between anchors and hitters. For all the blame people put on Pakistan and its anchors, India has been guilty of the same thing in the past. This approach killed their 2021 World Cup campaign and then a year later they again deluded themselves into thinking that they could defend 160 with Bhuvi as their front-line seamer. Kohli and Rohit have both been guilty of doing it in the past but Rahul is the worst offender. I think Rahul needs to be dropped from that T20 team altogether. What an overrated player. Jaiswal is 10x the batter that he will ever be. India should go with Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, SKY, Pandya and of their IPL finds: Jitesh Sharma or Rinku Singh, along with Jadeja. That's the best batting combination they can go with right now.
 
India is a huge favourite. A tuka or a bad day for the opposition is the way for Pakistan. India will beat this Pak team 9 out of 10 times.
 
Pakistan has a decent chance agaisnt India.
 
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UP said:
India is a huge favourite. A tuka or a bad day for the opposition is the way for Pakistan. India will beat this Pak team 9 out of 10 times.
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No-one is favourite in a T20 match . Both team are similar even Pakistan is slightly strong in T20 than india .
 
Devadwal said:
No-one is favourite in a T20 match . Both team are similar even Pakistan is slightly strong in T20 than india .
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True but we are mentally incapable of winning the key moments when it really matters. That’s what differentiates the both sides. We simply collapse and bog down.
 
Advantage is with India in this match.

Its going to be a new stadium where both teams will be playing. In winning an important match, the key is always understanding and playing according to the conditions in cricket. We lost MCG because we had players going for boundaries when the likes of Shan could had easily just rotated strike.

India has advantage here, because India will be playing a match against Ireland at the same ground before this match. If India gets to bat first, it will allow them to play a full innings and get a fair enough understanding about the conditions of the stadium.

They should had scheduled the Pakistan vs Canada match before the Ireland match at New York, giving both the teams same advantage for this encounter.

Anyways, I hope one or both of our warm up games are scheduled at this ground.
 
Major said:
Advantage is with India in this match.

Its going to be a new stadium where both teams will be playing. In winning an important match, the key is always understanding and playing according to the conditions in cricket. We lost MCG because we had players going for boundaries when the likes of Shan could had easily just rotated strike.

India has advantage here, because India will be playing a match against Ireland at the same ground before this match. If India gets to bat first, it will allow them to play a full innings and get a fair enough understanding about the conditions of the stadium.

They should had scheduled the Pakistan vs Canada match before the Ireland match at New York, giving both the teams same advantage for this encounter.

Anyways, I hope one or both of our warm up games are scheduled at this ground.
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Since we're playing in America I'm looking forward to the conspiracy theories from our pundits if we lose.

Some uncle will claim CIA gave India special balls with chips that allowed it to swing more.
 
Markhor said:
Since we're playing in America I'm looking forward to the conspiracy theories from our pundits if we lose.

Some uncle will claim CIA gave India special balls with chips that allowed it to swing more.
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I think it deserves a dedicated thread. This

and I hope the Afghan team doesnt go around picking fights with americans.

Also, i wonder which team will have the most runners once landing and taking refuge.

I am expecting Ugandu and PNG to give a tough competation in this
 
Markhor said:
Since we're playing in America I'm looking forward to the conspiracy theories from our pundits if we lose.

Some uncle will claim CIA gave India special balls with chips that allowed it to swing more.
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They will claim that we should ban American pitches for allowing teams to play 2x on the ground.

Instead USA should waste millions of dollars per game to construct new grounds for each team, their are over 40+ matches to be played so obviously the best solution to make 40+ unique grounds
 
India and Pakistan have played each other in ICC tournaments in the most iconic venues in neutral countries, Australia (MCG, SCG, Adelaide), South Africa (Joburg, Centurion, Durban), England (Lord's, Oval, Old Trafford, Edgbaston). In Bangladesh we played in Sher-e-Bangla in 2014 WT20, in Sri Lanka we played in Premadasa, Colombo in 2012 WT20.

Enough rich desis in USA and Canada to afford a trip to Barbados, Jamaica, Georgetown or Port of Spain. So many legendary venues in WI to host this clash, with GOATs like Sobers, Kanhai, Lloyd, Roberts, Garner, Holding, Viv, Ambrose, Lara in attendance.
 
9th June will be one of the very few occasions for Indo-Pak fans to enjoy the ultimate rivalry. I will rate this game 60-40 in favor of India. Pakistan has got a chance to beat India but they have to be 100 percent on-top of their game to pull out this win under these circumstances.
 
Both sides should play without pressure since likely it will be inconsequential to progress into group stage and neither will points carry.

The real challenge for India will be winning 2/3 games against SL, Aus and NZ

And for Pak 2/3 vs Eng, SA and WI
 
I just hope pak beats ind.. Ind is not winning the t20wc with the washed up seniors tuk tuks who will be selected. Just don't want them to milk a win against pak for eternity and again be selected in the 25CT. The kolhi mcg win against pak where match winner nawaz choked pushed ind t20 cricket 4-5 years back with theese washed useless seniors getting maximum hype
 
deltexas said:
I just hope pak beats ind.. Ind is not winning the t20wc with the washed up seniors tuk tuks who will be selected. Just don't want them to milk a win against pak for eternity and again be selected in the 25CT. The kolhi mcg win against pak where match winner nawaz choked pushed ind t20 cricket 4-5 years back with theese washed useless seniors getting maximum hype
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Kohli is surviving in this format just by repeatedly scoring against Pakistan his pet team.
 
pratiktc said:
Both sides should play without pressure since likely it will be inconsequential to progress into group stage and neither will points carry.

The real challenge for India will be winning 2/3 games against SL, Aus and NZ

And for Pak 2/3 vs Eng, SA and WI
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Actually whoever loses that game will have no margin for error..

You never know if USA or Canada could spring a surprise
 
msb314 said:
Actually whoever loses that game will have no margin for error..

You never know if USA or Canada could spring a surprise
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Mark my words. Pakistan will lose to either the USA or Canada but will end up winning against India. That's literally the definition of Pakistan cricket. They'll be the number one squad in the world, and may act like it for a bit, but still choke in front of dwarf nations lol
 
y33ny said:
Mark my words. Pakistan will lose to either the USA or Canada but will end up winning against India. That's literally the definition of Pakistan cricket. They'll be the number one squad in the world, and may act like it for a bit, but still choke in front of dwarf nations lol
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Gonna bookmark this post until the 9th
 
y33ny said:
Mark my words. Pakistan will lose to either the USA or Canada but will end up winning against India. That's literally the definition of Pakistan cricket. They'll be the number one squad in the world, and may act like it for a bit, but still choke in front of dwarf nations lol
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I will make a correction here... Pakistan will lose to both USA and Canada and they will also lose against India :ROFLMAO:
 
Vikram1989 said:
We have to pity our teams if they are under pressure from USA, Canada
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Man , I am shuddering - say Kohli makes a 100 against Canada or USA , the media hype will be a circus like 23 WC. King is back, kohli returns as king useless nonsense type of headlines. And then get thrashed in the group stage or sf by making a "par" score..thats what happened in the 2022 t20 WC.. The pak game hype and then tuk tuk in sf to a "par" score 170 against Eng who hammered it in 16 overs..
 
y33ny said:
Mark my words. Pakistan will lose to either the USA or Canada but will end up winning against India. That's literally the definition of Pakistan cricket. They'll be the number one squad in the world, and may act like it for a bit, but still choke in front of dwarf nations lol
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On the other hand , I can see babar rizwan and co feasting on these and the hype gravy train is amped up just like if kohli makes a big score against them or pak.. And then both ind and pak will be hammered in due course. Both have seniors tuk tuking and another WC exit beckons for both playing such outdated cricket.
 
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