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Rana my bro - I was hopeful aaqib will bring something new, but his selections and strategy have been schizo.

He’s either all in one way or another. The selections are only for one plan, and if that doesn’t succeed there is no plan B.

I don’t see much going on. I think the spin strategy vs England was excellent because something had to be done, but you need to be able to pivot.

South Africa selections were just all wrong taking 120k bowlers and no spinners. I would have respected his strategy more if he had gone all out with somewhat real pace than basically seam up spinners.

West Indies he should have backed Pakistan to be an overall better side than WI and not require the spin gimmick which backfired big time.

And this CT and ODI selections are very meh. Khushdil Shah and Faheem??
 
Rana my bro - I was hopeful aaqib will bring something new, but his selections and strategy have been schizo.

He’s either all in one way or another. The selections are only for one plan, and if that doesn’t succeed there is no plan B.

I don’t see much going on. I think the spin strategy vs England was excellent because something had to be done, but you need to be able to pivot.

South Africa selections were just all wrong taking 120k bowlers and no spinners. I would have respected his strategy more if he had gone all out with somewhat real pace than basically seam up spinners.

West Indies he should have backed Pakistan to be an overall better side than WI and not require the spin gimmick which backfired big time.

And this CT and ODI selections are very meh. Khushdil Shah and Faheem??
Very limited pool for those position

Ifthikhar shadab jamal faheem kushdil

If there are any others capped players for those positions please add
 
Rana my bro - I was hopeful aaqib will bring something new, but his selections and strategy have been schizo.

He’s either all in one way or another. The selections are only for one plan, and if that doesn’t succeed there is no plan B.

I don’t see much going on. I think the spin strategy vs England was excellent because something had to be done, but you need to be able to pivot.

South Africa selections were just all wrong taking 120k bowlers and no spinners. I would have respected his strategy more if he had gone all out with somewhat real pace than basically seam up spinners.

West Indies he should have backed Pakistan to be an overall better side than WI and not require the spin gimmick which backfired big time.

And this CT and ODI selections are very meh. Khushdil Shah and Faheem??
Tbh bro the way I see it,

Even if I with my extreme cricketing views ends up working for PCB will probably end up making compromises that make me look like a hypocrite. I either choose the job (with the honest intention of serving my country) and make those compromises,

Or I never get the job at all. It’s the only way I can make sense of it. I know Aqib is a sensible person. The Rizwan and Babar opening in Australia and later in South Africa gives me vibes that there are things beyond his control. It’s like he is dealing with a severely disturbed mental patient.
 
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Rana my bro - I was hopeful aaqib will bring something new, but his selections and strategy have been schizo.

He’s either all in one way or another. The selections are only for one plan, and if that doesn’t succeed there is no plan B.

I don’t see much going on. I think the spin strategy vs England was excellent because something had to be done, but you need to be able to pivot.

South Africa selections were just all wrong taking 120k bowlers and no spinners. I would have respected his strategy more if he had gone all out with somewhat real pace than basically seam up spinners.

West Indies he should have backed Pakistan to be an overall better side than WI and not require the spin gimmick which backfired big time.

And this CT and ODI selections are very meh. Khushdil Shah and Faheem??
The English fluke means we are stuck with him Mohsin Naqvi thought he’s some kind of genius after the English strategy worked and got rid of two highly acclaimed foreign coaches for this clown and watch him take us down even further
 
Aqib Javed should use the next game of triseries as audition, Usman Hasnain Faheem all should play
 
Rana my bro - I was hopeful aaqib will bring something new, but his selections and strategy have been schizo.

He’s either all in one way or another. The selections are only for one plan, and if that doesn’t succeed there is no plan B.

I don’t see much going on. I think the spin strategy vs England was excellent because something had to be done, but you need to be able to pivot.

South Africa selections were just all wrong taking 120k bowlers and no spinners. I would have respected his strategy more if he had gone all out with somewhat real pace than basically seam up spinners.

West Indies he should have backed Pakistan to be an overall better side than WI and not require the spin gimmick which backfired big time.

And this CT and ODI selections are very meh. Khushdil Shah and Faheem??

From what I’ve seen Rizwan/Babar have significant influence over Aqib and the seniors in the past have played a huge role in getting rid of high profile coaches and players who they saw as a threat. With the Test side you could argue any criticism is fair to a degree because with Shan as his captain who is more willing to cooperate with his leaders, Aqib therefore has one hand free to wield his ideas, but that’s still within a toxic environment which can’t properly build with sly seniors who remain in it.

For the ODI’s completely different story, remember how Rizwan was hired in the first place and the guarantee’s he received. This is pretty much his team and the wickets for the CT have been prepared accordingly to his liking. Touring teams, especially from the west, struggle against spin and the pitches which have been prepared have very little juice.

The selections and pitches are all very safe for the CT, wouldn’t shock me if we go back to the good ol well so and so’s batting averages were great everything else is the problem. I hope am wrong and we surprise our opponents on the day but doesn’t look like it at all, Pak might have a shot if they win the toss and get a good score, again, we’re relying on miracles again.

To win a tournament you need to be a bit brave and dare to be great, do something a little different / extra etc play out of your skin for the team goal and have all basis covered. This lot are a bunch cowards.
 
From what I’ve seen Rizwan/Babar have significant influence over Aqib and the seniors in the past have played a huge role in getting rid of high profile coaches and players who they saw as a threat. With the Test side you could argue any criticism is fair to a degree because with Shan as his captain who is more willing to cooperate with his leaders, Aqib therefore has one hand free to wield his ideas, but that’s still within a toxic environment which can’t properly build with sly seniors who remain in it.

For the ODI’s completely different story, remember how Rizwan was hired in the first place and the guarantee’s he received. This is pretty much his team and the wickets for the CT have been prepared accordingly to his liking. Touring teams, especially from the west, struggle against spin and the pitches which have been prepared have very little juice.

The selections and pitches are all very safe for the CT, wouldn’t shock me if we go back to the good ol well so and so’s batting averages were great everything else is the problem. I hope am wrong and we surprise our opponents on the day but doesn’t look like it at all, Pak might have a shot if they win the toss and get a good score, again, we’re relying on miracles again.

To win a tournament you need to be a bit brave and dare to be great, do something a little different / extra etc play out of your skin for the team goal and have all basis covered. This lot are a bunch cowards.

The last paragraph pretty much sums it up. No one is daring to be great or even “very good”. We have been sleepwalking for years. These cowards just want to turn up, play a little, don’t risk your physical safety, don’t risk your record or your place in the team and go home and smile. If you happen to find a way to win, great, if not, no worries, we’re still playing with our mates and there’s a delicious cake to look forward to after the game.

Spineless cowards
 
I mean aqib needs to get this right select him in playing 11 there is no need or justification of playing 3 fast bowlers in playing 11 two genuine spinners will work great for pakistan in middle overs.
 
Pakistan doesn't have time for experimentation is over, all Pakistan can do is tweak their selection from now on.

If the established "All rounders" are not good enough then go with a promising youngster who may not be good enough yet but groom him to be good.
 
Tbh bro the way I see it,

Even if I with my extreme cricketing views ends up working for PCB will probably end up making compromises that make me look like a hypocrite. I either choose the job (with the honest intention of serving my country) and make those compromises,

Or I never get the job at all. It’s the only way I can make sense of it. I know Aqib is a sensible person. The Rizwan and Babar opening in Australia and later in South Africa gives me vibes that there are things beyond his control. It’s like he is dealing with a severely disturbed mental patient.
I feel that too, i think Aqib is compromised and he is not able to fully exercise what he needs to get done. The same way Gambhir is also compromised and hence not able to execute his vision properly.
 
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I feel that too, i think Aqib is compromised and he is not able to fully exercise what he needs to get done. The same way Gambhir is also compromised and hence not able to execute his vision properly.
Gambhir’s job was made so much easier with Kohli and Sharma retiring from T20s, that opened the door for him to just go gung ho with an absolutely new team with no pressure of those two seniors who were outdated in that format.

He’s doing the right thing here by not tinkering too much with the current ODI team, they had one poor game in 2023 otherwise they have most bases covered for the CT.

I’ve worked in environments like this in the past. No matter how strong a visionary you are from the outside, you only realise once inside that there are certain zones that you are restricted from…even though you are brought in for your particular vision. You have to make your vision work with those untouchable people/players. That’s basically how I see Aqib’s role in this.

Gary Kirsten makes a plan to give Pakistan a proper/modern T20 side. His plan doesn’t include Babar or Rizwan. He crossed a line he wasn’t supposed to.

He paid for it with the humiliation of seeing a team and captain announced that he didn’t approve or have discussed with him.
 
Aqib is on a mission to terminate our cricket.

I pray to God somehow his plan is foiled through some divine intervention and we manage to win the champions trophy.
 
He is entitled to his opinion, he may see things different as he views from an Aussie perspective.
I didn't disagree with you. I agreed the moment you told me he plans to create lottery pitches in domestics as well.
 
Aaqib has made a blunder by bringing Fhaeem out of nowhere. Faheem was nowhere near this squad but he selected him. He could have gone for some better option or might as well choose a spinner instead of him.
 
Imam , Shafiq Sufyan Akif all in running for CT inclusion basically Aqib is panicking
They should be apart from Abdullah... Akif is also in great form, why was he not selected like Faheem??

Sufiyan was discarded out of nowhere.
 
At the end of the day, it's still Gillespie who was in charge of our only Test series win in last 12-14 months. And Gillespie was in charge when we beat Aus in Aus 2-1.
When Aqib got his hands on the leash, he ended up losing to WI at home (even though we did beat SA in ODIs but we did that in 2021 as well).
A lot of plastic fans of Pak cricket will start bleeding green again if a certain wicketkeeper is made the captain again or someone from that one city. Otherwise, you'll keep on hearing rants from this world to the middle earth. Rizwan betraying Gandalf and Babar being the necromancer.
 
Aaqib has made a blunder by bringing Fhaeem out of nowhere. Faheem was nowhere near this squad but he selected him. He could have gone for some better option or might as well choose a spinner instead of him.
So what are the better options? There are no pace or spin bowling all rounders in pakistan
Misbah and babar has not bothered to groom any since razzaq

Going with 3 full time fast bowlers and 2 full time spinners will mean you can only play 6 batsmen

So let's here some names of all rounders you think should be innthe squad
 
So what are the better options? There are no pace or spin bowling all rounders in pakistan
Misbah and babar has not bothered to groom any since razzaq

Going with 3 full time fast bowlers and 2 full time spinners will mean you can only play 6 batsmen

So let's here some names of all rounders you think should be innthe squad
Abbas, Jahandad, Wasim... These guys should have been the front-runners... Not Faheem
 
Abbas, Jahandad, Wasim... These guys should have been the front-runners... Not Faheem
Abbas afridi is a bowler not an all rounder so who would you drop for abbas afridi? Shaheen rauf or naseem?

Muhamad Wasim is injured and also is a bowler not an all rounder

Jahandad has no international exposure

What other all rounders are there?
 
Abbas afridi is a bowler not an all rounder so who would you drop for abbas afridi? Shaheen rauf or naseem?

Muhamad Wasim is injured and also is a bowler not an all rounder

Jahandad has no international exposure

What other all rounders are there?
Faheem with 10 average in batting is an all-rounder??? He is also a slogger and he is not even a full time bowler...
 
@BouncerGuy also the last game we lost was not because of faheem but the 3 super stars failed.

Babar & Rizwan couldn't get any runs on the board

Shaheen exceeded too many runs
 
Faheem with 10 average in batting is an all-rounder??? He is also a slogger and he is not even a full time bowler...
OK that's fine but come out with a solution than just ranting so name me all rounders that should replace faheem
 
OK that's fine but come out with a solution than just ranting so name me all rounders that should replace faheem
I already named them... Abbas and jahandad were in the system and played ODIs as well recently... Wasim was your num,ber 1 bowler in 2023 world cup and then he got injured and could never make a comeback.

Where did faheem came from???
 
I already named them... Abbas and jahandad were in the system and played ODIs as well recently... Wasim was your num,ber 1 bowler in 2023 world cup and then he got injured and could never make a comeback.

Where did faheem came from???
They are not all rounders they are bowlers
Still asking you to list me decent pace all rounders from pakistan

He's come in to replace a batsmen whose dropped and 4th option as a pace bowler

What your asking for is to replace a batsmen with a bowler which does not make a sense unless you can explain why
 
Abbas afridi is a bowler not an all rounder so who would you drop for abbas afridi? Shaheen rauf or naseem?

Muhamad Wasim is injured and also is a bowler not an all rounder

Jahandad has no international exposure

What other all rounders are there?
jahandad is also not an allrounder.Smacking a few sixes in psl doesnt make u an allrounder.
 
They are not all rounders they are bowlers
Still asking you to list me decent pace all rounders from pakistan

He's come in to replace a batsmen whose dropped and 4th option as a pace bowler

What your asking for is to replace a batsmen with a bowler which does not make a sense unless you can explain why

Gold! Wasim Jehandad Abass are not allrounders , but Faheem is an allrounder averaging in 40s with ball and 15 with bat

Last 10 games avg 100 with ball and 9 with bat :14:
 
Gold! Wasim Jehandad Abass are not allrounders , but Faheem is an allrounder averaging in 40s with ball and 15 with bat

Last 10 games avg 100 with ball and 9 with bat :14:
What's gold about that? Check their playing role on cricinfo only faheem is a batting all rounder yeah he is a rubbish and that's a different topic

If you and @BouncerGuy want to replace faheem it has to be with a batting all rounder or a batsmen not a bowler

If you and @BouncerGuy don't know the diffrence between bowling all rounder, batting all rounder, a bowler and a batsman then your not fit to have cricket discussions
 
What's gold about that? Check their playing role on cricinfo only faheem is a batting all rounder yeah he is a rubbish and that's a different topic

If you and @BouncerGuy want to replace faheem it has to be with a batting all rounder or a batsmen not a bowler

If you and @BouncerGuy don't know the diffrence between bowling all rounder, batting all rounder, a bowler and a batsman then your not fit to have cricket discussions
looks like you and Faheem have a deep connection... Never mind brother. You can keep rana..
 
looks like you and Faheem have a deep connection... Never mind brother. You can keep rana..
What deep connection?

We have 1 full time spinner and 2 part time spinners in kushdil and agha

3 full time pace bowlers shaheen naseem and rauf

So tell me where are your 4th or 5th pace bowler?
 
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What deep connection?

We have 1 full time spinner and 2 part time spinners in kushdil and agha

3 full time pace bowlers shaheen naseem and rauf

So tell me where are your 4th or 5th pace bowler?
why do we need 4th pacer that to on Pakistani and UAE pitches????
 
Do you think Rana is gonna bat well on these FLAT pitches?? or he can control runs??
First of all rana isn't the first choice in the playing xi so I don't know why he is the question mark

Last game was lost due to poor batting by babar and rizwan and poor bowling by shaheen so that should really be the discussion because they are favorites rana is being brought in to hide others failures
 
First of all rana isn't the first choice in the playing xi so I don't know why he is the question mark

Last game was lost due to poor batting by babar and rizwan and poor bowling by shaheen so that should really be the discussion because they are favorites rana is being brought in to hide others failures
I hope rana gets a game so we can see what he brings to the table.. As of now, his selection is not justified... that is my point.
 
I hope rana gets a game so we can see what he brings to the table.. As of now, his selection is not justified... that is my point.
He isn't required at the moment only in the Champions trophy when pitches are flat to bowl economically in the middle
 
Gold! Wasim Jehandad Abass are not allrounders , but Faheem is an allrounder averaging in 40s with ball and 15 with bat

Last 10 games avg 100 with ball and 9 with bat :14:
Jahandad has a slightly better batting style to Shaheen…..so he’s a genuine all rounder? How are these chawwal comments allowed to stick? Why are die hard RizBar fans continuing to distort cricket? First they attempted to distort cricket by portraying Babar as world class, and Rizwan as a complete batsman…now they are arguing Jahandad and anyone under the sun who holds a bat as a complete all rounder instead of Faheem.


Faheem has a Test match 90 in NZ. We’ve seen him bat like a proper batter time and time again in PSL and other franchise tournaments. Fgs just because he has a picture with the man who helped jail IK doesn’t mean he is the spawn of Satan!!
 
The difference between league cricket and international cricket is daylight, Aqib and some arrogant fans need to understand this, as for Jehandad he is still untested unlike Faheem who has played 30 odd ODIS.
 
He is entitled to his opinion, he may see things different as he views from an Aussie perspective.
Of course, his Aussie perspective really shines through in his posts and is the cornerstone of his impeccable knowledge of not just cricket but a wide array of topics.
 
Of course, his Aussie perspective really shines through in his posts and is the cornerstone of his impeccable knowledge of not just cricket but a wide array of topics.
Yes, because pakiatani perspectives entail that

A) Babar is Lara

B) Rizwan is > HTB Travis as a test batter even though all of rizzu's centuries come on home roads in tests.

C) Babar is better than rohit as an odi and t20 batsmen because rizwanthet20champ said so.
 
Aqib Javid is making a significant impact on the team, moving them away from the traditional strategy of playing it safe until the 35th over before going on the attack. Under his guidance, the team came out with an aggressive mindset right from the first ball, showing a bold and fearless approach. Well done, Aqib, for instilling this positive change!
 
well nothing to appreciate , beaten thrice by NZ in 10 days, one sided defeat against India and thrown out from CT.
 
well nothing to appreciate , beaten thrice by NZ in 10 days, one sided defeat against India and thrown out from CT.
Beaten by NZ thrice in home conditions. That si the thing that makes it even worse. Aaqib might have done a good stuff in Tests but he is nowhere near good in LOIs and making him coach LOL??? No words
 
Beaten by NZ thrice in home conditions. That si the thing that makes it even worse. Aaqib might have done a good stuff in Tests but he is nowhere near good in LOIs and making him coach LOL??? No words
His test cricket gimmick is also on borrowed time as visiting teams are now aware of what’s coming for them even West Indies showed him his aukaat you can’t take pace bowling out of test cricket
 
I'm surprised at how mediocre his strategizing has been in ODIs.

With the Test team, the strategy is clear. You can approve or critique it but the plan was obvious by including spinners on raging turners.

The ODI team has no such plan. Seems like a bunch of odd parts coming together with a few randoms thrown in like Khushdil and Faheem.
 
Lol this guy is absolute joke . Dropped kamran ghulam due to fielding? 🤣. Our team is the best he said for CT and now all gone in drain 🤣
 
You can’t hate Aqib bruv.

What a smooth operator. He literally gave Rizwan and Babar a proper run before discarding them in T20s. No one can argue that he has been unfair to those two
 
You can’t hate Aqib bruv.

What a smooth operator. He literally gave Rizwan and Babar a proper run before discarding them in T20s. No one can argue that he has been unfair to those two
The world doesn’t revolve solely around Rizwan. While he may have made the right call by dropping himself and Babar from the T20s, his decision-making has been questionable with some baffling selections. Players like Faheem, Khushdil, and Tayyab are clear examples. Now, he’s dropped KG despite his impressive series against South Africa. He also went to the Champions Trophy with just one specialist spinner, fully aware they would have to face India in Dubai.

Overall pulling Pakistan to new low.
 
Hopefully Pakistan will win the 3rd T20 to keep the series alive and give something to appreciate Aaqib
 
They would never drop Babar or Rizwan as they don't watch domestic cricket.
Although not a big fan of AJ . But question is would Gillespie or Kirsten had guts to drop Babar and Rizwan ? Would they have gone with new look t20 side or chosen a safer option ? Aqib took the action
 
What is this Aqibs W/L Ratio as coach? He has been a disaster across all formats for Pakistan. it's high time he is booted.
 
What is this Aqibs W/L Ratio as coach? He has been a disaster across all formats for Pakistan. it's high time he is booted.
I am disappointed with him, he talked a good game but his selections since becoming coach have been illogical. He should have stuck to being the chairman of selectors. But he got greedy and after this tour there will be role for him at the PCB.
 
I am disappointed with him, he talked a good game but his selections since becoming coach have been illogical. He should have stuck to being the chairman of selectors. But he got greedy and after this tour there will be role for him at the PCB.
Anyone who comes to the role via back stabbing and sabotage rather than merit will always be doomed
 
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