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Yes, he was. McGrath triumphs Akram in every metric in Tests. In ODI’s, Akram is ahead in number of wickets, but McGrath triumphs Akram in every other department. And most of all, they both played in pretty much the same eras.Rohit sharma scored 5 hundreads which didn't give a century scope for kohli otherwise he did decent in 2019 world cup .
As a 22 year old he scored a crucial 35 and built patnership in 2011 world cup final
He was the highest run scorer in champions trophy final in 2013
His notable failure 2015 semis chasing 338 against aus
Another notable failure 2019 semis
Lets wait till 2023 knock outs. Kohli had 4 winning t20 innings in world cup knock outs with babar having zero. Does that make babar a stat padder or flat track bully ?
Mcgrath won more worldcups than wasim akram. Is mcgrath a better a bowler than wasim ?
Gautam gambhir had impactful knocks in odi world cup 2011 and 2007 t20. So he is better than sachin or sehwag or kohli ?
Well a 22 year old Virat hit a century in his debut world cup match and also played a crucial innings in the WC final when 2 early wickets fell. What has Babar done of note?And Babar STILL had a better world cup than Kohli who had a grand total of zero hundreds and an absolutely masterful choke when the team actually needed him.
This was also a 24 year old Baby Babar versus a peak Kohli. The SR difference was tiny.
Shakib has always been rated a top, top all-rounder throughout his career along with the likes of stokes and co. Not just 2019, Virat's other 2 WCs have been substandard. That is the funny part. Mr. statspadder is a serial choker.He was less than Shakib which would make him a lesser batsman than Shakib or Rohit. Nobody in India would rate Rohit above Kohli because of that 2019 world cup lol The fun part is Kohli was not even out. He just walked foolishly based on the click sound.
Shakib has always been rated a top, top all-rounder throughout his career along with the likes of stokes and co. Not just 2019, Virat's other 2 WCs have been substandard. That is the funny part. Mr. statspadder is a serial choker.
I am genuinely amused by this artificial non-existent rivalryWell a 22 year old Virat hit a century in his debut world cup match and also played a crucial innings in the WC final when 2 early wickets fell. What has Babar done of note?
Both have the same roles in their teams that is to score big runs.I think Virat is slightly better than Babar but both have different roles in thier teams.
0? Who do you think got us to the T20 finals last year?Rohit sharma scored 5 hundreads which didn't give a century scope for kohli otherwise he did decent in 2019 world cup .
As a 22 year old he scored a crucial 35 and built patnership in 2011 world cup final
He was the highest run scorer in champions trophy final in 2013
His notable failure 2015 semis chasing 338 against aus
Another notable failure 2019 semis
Lets wait till 2023 knock outs. Kohli had 4 winning t20 innings in world cup knock outs with babar having zero. Does that make babar a stat padder or flat track bully ?
Mcgrath won more worldcups than wasim akram. Is mcgrath a better a bowler than wasim ?
Gautam gambhir had impactful knocks in odi world cup 2011 and 2007 t20. So he is better than sachin or sehwag or kohli ?
That century came against Bangladesh and a crucial innings of 35? Lmao. India were going to sleepwalk their way to a win against Sri Lanka regardless of what happened.Well a 22 year old Virat hit a century in his debut world cup match and also played a crucial innings in the WC final when 2 early wickets fell. What has Babar done of note?
Gambhir is not a better pressure player than sachin, tendulkar scored a 50 in every wc semi he played in and was man of the match against Pakistan in three different world cups.0? Who do you think got us to the T20 finals last year?
Gambhir is a better pressure player than Sachin, yes. He however, does not average nearly 60 in ODIs like Babar Azam.
Kohli is without a doubt one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time and the current greatest #3.
Babar is on track to dethrone him and the reason for that is not just their respective performances in the world cups but also the fact that they both average nearly 60 in the format and score hundreds for fun.
So please stop bringing in Shakib, Gambhir, Sharma, etc because none of these are comparable to Kohli or Babar.
And what did babar do against India, Australia and West Indies in that same wc. Kohli scored 5 50s in a row and had a better strike rate. Going by this logic, Ganguly and dravid are better odi batsmen than inzi was because their performance in 99 wc was better than inzi ever had in a wc tournament.That century came against Bangladesh and a crucial innings of 35? Lmao. India were going to sleepwalk their way to a win against Sri Lanka regardless of what happened.
They had prime Sehwag, Sachin, Dhoni, Yuvraj and Raina. A 35 is never a "crucial" innings in an ODI and it definitely wasn't in that final.
Babar was superior in his only world cup so far against a prime Kohli. His maiden world cup hundred didn't come against Bangladesh, it came against New Zealand.
He played an actual crucial innings in the CT17 final because unlike India, we didn't have the likes of Dhoni and Yuvraj waiting to come in had a platform not been set by Babar.
This filter was specifically used to somehow put Babar on par with Kohli Fact of the matter is there were more than dozens of guys averaged in 50s in that world cup some of them with very high strike rate. Some of those pitches were absolute pattas where all spinners were rendered useless.And what did babar do against India, Australia and West Indies in that same wc. Kohli scored 5 50s in a row and had a better strike rate. Going by this logic, Ganguly and dravid are better odi batsmen than inzi was because their performance in 99 wc was better than inzi ever had in a wc tournament.
What did he do in the the two finals he played? Funny how you mentioned the semi-finals but left out the biggest match.Gambhir is not a better pressure player than sachin, tendulkar scored a 50 in every wc semi he played in and was man of the match against Pakistan in three different world cups.
Terrible analogy but expected. The stats show that Babar has been zooming past all of Kohli's records and won the one grand prix they both competed in.The comparison becomes ridicuous by the day.
At his best Kohli is a like a Lamborghini. Fast and makes people notice when the ride arrives. Hurtles towards the target and gets the job done without minimum fuss.
Babar is like a used Honda. Reliable but not pacy and people barely notice it. Reaches the target but often needs repairs (help) to get the job done.
Terrible analogy but expected. The stats show that Babar has been zooming past all of Kohli's records and won the one grand prix they both competed in.
Rohit sharma scored 5 hundreads which didn't give a century scope for kohli otherwise he did decent in 2019 world cup .
As a 22 year old he scored a crucial 35 and built patnership in 2011 world cup final
He was the highest run scorer in champions trophy final in 2013
His notable failure 2015 semis chasing 338 against aus
Another notable failure 2019 semis
Lets wait till 2023 knock outs. Kohli had 4 winning t20 innings in world cup knock outs with babar having zero. Does that make babar a stat padder or flat track bully ?
Mcgrath won more worldcups than wasim akram. Is mcgrath a better a bowler than wasim ?
Gautam gambhir had impactful knocks in odi world cup 2011 and 2007 t20. So heThe stats argument is so annoying. It's basically a telltale sign that posters don't know how to argue. The stats argument is always the weakest argument you can present.I dont follow stats or stat padders.
I watch matches and make my own opinions and they are usually right.
Babar is a great player but he is simply not in the league of Kohli or Ponting or Tendulkar.
And time will further prove this fact.
Dhoni knows better than you. He acknowledged kohlis knock in 2011 post match presentation.That century came against Bangladesh and a crucial innings of 35? Lmao. India were going to sleepwalk their way to a win against Sri Lanka regardless of what happened.
They had prime Sehwag, Sachin, Dhoni, Yuvraj and Raina. A 35 is never a "crucial" innings in an ODI and it definitely wasn't in that final.
Babar was superior in his only world cup so far against a prime Kohli. His maiden world cup hundred didn't come against Bangladesh, it came against New Zealand.
He played an actual crucial innings in the CT17 final because unlike India, we didn't have the likes of Dhoni and Yuvraj waiting to come in had a platform not been set by Babar.
A captain is always going to say that about his own players. If you asked Dhoni, even the bench were crucial in India winning that match.Dhoni knows better than you. He acknowledged kohlis knock in 2011 post match presentation.
It was not kohlis fault that 2013 champions trophy final was shortened due to rain which india was set to loose. He topscored and gave india respectable total on a damp pitch . India won 2013 champions trophy final
2019 world cup kohli scored 440 and babar scored 470 plus. Kohli had to face less number of lovers due to a pride rohit hitting 5 hundreads. His highest was 82 could have got a hundread otherwise
Brayan lara never had a dominating worldcup like sachin still the cricketing world is divided on whether lara or sachin the best batsman.
Lets wait till 2023 world cup and debate.
Babar did well last world cup so did kohli.
2019 knock outs was a real failure for kohli so was 2015. Lets wait this world cup Since all it takes is one knock out innings.
Coincidentally starsports had a recent interview with viratkohli , him talking about his 2011 contribution. Virat says, quote-unquote "for a 22 year old 35 runs was gold since it led to a partnership of 83 runs. An other wicket with sachin, sehwag gone would have been lot tougher on middle order inside the first 10 hours in a world cup final. The innings is so special to me"A captain is always going to say that about his own players. If you asked Dhoni, even the bench were crucial in India winning that match.
2013 wasn't Kohli's fault but 2015 and 2019 were. I don't understand why you're implying thay Kohli having a better opening partnership to lay a platform for him is a disadvantage. Regardless, when the opening partnership failed, Kohli did as well.
I agree about the 2023 WC, that is why this thread was made.
These standards are very low then, tbf.Coincidentally starsports had a recent interview with viratkohli , him talking about his 2011 contribution. Virat says, quote-unquote "for a 22 year old 35 runs was gold since it led to a partnership of 83 runs. An other wicket with sachin, sehwag gone would have been lot tougher on middle order inside the first 10 hours in a world cup final. The innings is so special to me"
Kohli had a good final but he wasn't the player of the tournament or the highest run getter.A captain is always going to say that about his own players. If you asked Dhoni, even the bench were crucial in India winning that match.
2013 wasn't Kohli's fault but 2015 and 2019 were. I don't understand why you're implying thay Kohli having a better opening partnership to lay a platform for him is a disadvantage. Regardless, when the opening partnership failed, Kohli did as well.
I agree about the 2023 WC, that is why this thread was made.
Completely agreed. Exactly why 22 year Babar scoring 46 in a final against IND > 22 year old Kohli scoring 35 in a final against SLWatch 1996 QF between ind and pakistan. Pakistan were 112/1 chasing 287 in 49 hours. Quick lose of wicket of inzy and ijaz Ahmed let to collapse and in the end PAK lost the match .
Watch 1996 SF between ind vs Srilanka india were 98/2 in 22 overs sachin was run out followed by azar the final india score card 120/8
2019 world cup india were 30/4
2019 semis england barey managed to chase 240 despite a lucky overthrow of 5 runa.
1983 ind managed to defend 183
The context of runs in knock out matters not the quantity
2011 semis sures raina scored 34 odd runa which gave inda a respectable total of 260.
I am watching cricket since 1995 . I dont get the current social media centric arguments with out sample size of data history or context.
Had virat gone for a duck in 2011 , ind would have been 40/3 inside 10 overs and it would have been game on for Srilanka.
world cup final vs champions trophy is no match ! I rate babar highly for the classy 100 against nz in 2019 world cup.Completely agreed. Exactly why 22 year Babar scoring 46 in a final against IND > 22 year old Kohli scoring 35 in a final against SL
Right now it seems like Kohli. Babar can only dream of taking his team home from 2-3.Virat Kohli has never scored a century while chasing in ODI World Cup history.
Babar Azam scored 470 plus runs in his maiden ODI World Cup 2019 including a match winning century against New Zealand in English conditions.
He became the highest run scorer by an Asian player in his first ODI World Cup.
Now in this world cup who's gonna dominant?
Right now it seems like Kohli. Babar can only dream of taking his team home from 2-3.
Nah. Kohli couldn't convert his 85 into hundred but Babar did against NZ hence Babar is better.Right now it seems like Kohli. Babar can only dream of taking his team home from 2-3.
Let’s no overreact, Babar can do similar.
But yes, Kohlis taken the lead in this thread!
He played an absolute cracker tonight
I said when 3 wickets bfall when score is in single digits. Or even less than 40 like it was against Netherlands.Nah. Kohli couldn't convert his 85 into hundred but Babar did against NZ hence Babar is better.
-4 Kohli for home conditions?+4 to Kohli for tough opponent , tough conditions and tough situation (2/3)
-4 to Babar for flunking against Holland on an easy pitch under no pressure.
He already scored more runs in his first WC than Kohli ever could in his 3 attempts.No comparison at all. Kohli is miles ahead. Babar has a chance this WC, to show that he can score runs against world class bowling.
As if Babar is scoring tons at WACA or on a minefield This was a tough pitch, home or not.No team has successfully chased in a match when they were 3 down for 2 runs in the history of ODI cricket and Kohli and KL were part of that.-4 Kohli for home conditions?
Talking about history. eh? It is the first time in the history of WC that Kohli has scored a 50 in a runchase and that is his 4th world cupAs if Babar is scoring tons at WACA or on a minefield This was a tough pitch, home or not.No team has successfully chased in a match when they were 3 down for 2 runs in the history of ODI cricket and Kohli and KL were part of that.
And Babar wasn't dropped in his century against New Zealand in the last World Cup, right?Kohli was dropped early in his innings today.
Fluke innings. Got lucky after launching a skier, then dropped.
Or does this attribute only apply to Pakistan batsmen?
Rohits 5 hundreds did not allow enough batting time in 2019 World Cup. Kohli scored 440 in gun Indian batting line up where as Babar scored 470+ which gives his more overs to bat in an average Pakistan batting line up. 2019 was even Steven between him and kohli.He already scored more runs in his first WC than Kohli ever could in his 3 attempts.
Anyone with grey matter knows that. Although it's quite difficult for some of them to admit it.Babar or any other active batsman isn't fit enough to tie the shoelaces of Kohli as far as white ball cricket is concerned.
Gambhir should have got the MoM in both 2007 t20 wc as well as 2011 ODIwcup. However his important contributions in both matches were overshadowed by Dhoni and Pathan.What did he do in the the two finals he played? Funny how you mentioned the semi-finals but left out the biggest match.
1928-1948= The Don Bradman Era
1974-1993= Viv Richards Era
1994-2012= The Sachin Tendulkar Era
2013-2023(and continuing so far)= The Virat Kohli era
Who will dominate the next Era in terms of batting? Will it be Gill?
I think it will be Jaiswal. He will intimidate lot of bowlers unlike Gill.Some of Jaiswal shots are pure disdain1928-1948= The Don Bradman Era
1974-1993= Viv Richards Era
1994-2012= The Sachin Tendulkar Era
2013-2023(and continuing so far)= The Virat Kohli era
Who will dominate the next Era in terms of batting? Will it be Gill?
Never, the home conditions works against you when you are in a pressure situation like that one Kholi walked into.-4 Kohli for home conditions?
1928-1948= The Don Bradman Era
1974-1993= Viv Richards Era
1994-2012= The Sachin Tendulkar Era
2013-2023(and continuing so far)= The Virat Kohli era
Who will dominate the next Era in terms of batting? Will it be Gill?
Who do you think will lead the batsmen era after kohli era ends?Gill has issues. He doesn't move his feet that much.
Jaiswal has issues with the short ball.
After dominating batting eras for 3 decades and since 1970s, after having a Batsman whose name would be among the top 3 in the world, India may struggle now.
There was never a rivalry. Only imaginary rivalry. Smith/Root/Kohli/Kane all are from 2008 under-19 batch. They played a lot more matches. They achieved in different capacities over a period. ABD is not even compared with these guys because he belonged slightly to a different gen. When AB played 2007 world cup these guys were yet to play under-19 world cup. KL Rahul/Babar are from 2014 batch. So he should be compared with his batch or may be one batch above players. Pant is from 2016 batch.The Babar vs Kohli 2023 WC rivalry scoreline :
Round 1 to King Kohli after yesterdays chasing masterclass.
The ball is now in Prince Babar's court . Looking for the matchwinning innings against a good opposition
Who do you think will lead the batsmen era after kohli era ends?
That rivalry exists nowhere else. Given that some people have defined WC 2023 as the ultimate stage where Kohli will have to prove himself wrt Babar , lets see just keep track !There was never a rivalry. Only imaginary rivalry. Smith/Root/Kohli/Kane all are from 2008 under-19 batch. They played a lot more matches. They achieved in different capacities over a period. ABD is not even compared with these guys because he belonged slightly to a different gen. When AB played 2007 world cup these guys were yet to play under-19 world cup. KL Rahul/Babar are from 2014 batch. So he should be compared with his batch or may be one batch above players. Pant is from 2016 batch.
Really lol? Wow that's embarassing. He needs to reach grand finals to be classified as a true Grest in the mould of Ponting viv etc. He also needs to perform in the ko. Good batting though in a pressure game.Talking about history. eh? It is the first time in the history of WC that Kohli has scored a 50 in a runchase and that is his 4th world cup
Never, the home conditions works against you when you are in a pressure situation like that one Kholi walked into.
I think Babar will play one or two innings against top class apposition which people will remember forever like Sachin innings against Pakistan in 2003 world cup .
KOhli was the highest scorer in the CT 2013 final. Secondly in how many knockouts has babar made a significant contribution?just chokli traits. No wonder how poorly he failed in the knockouts
Yeah, i am sure you would fare better than him in the same condition, no doubt. Calling Kholi with names is also a mature human trait.just chokli traits. No wonder how poorly he failed in the knockouts
Why would I do his job? I am just stating his WC records. If I fail in my job, I won't ask Kohli to do itYeah, i am sure you would fare better than him in the same condition, no doubt. Calling Kholi with names is also a mature human trait.
But Kholi would also not call you names if you do fail at your job, would he? Are you getting the flaw in your logic? Try betterWhy would I do his job? I am just stating his WC records. If I fail in my job, I won't ask Kohli to do it
Time to celebrate today's innings of Babar?Terrible analogy but expected. The stats show that Babar has been zooming past all of Kohli's records and won the one grand prix they both competed in.