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Hasan123
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I wanted Saud to play over him tbf. But he did get a good ball so harsh to be critical for him for that.
India and SENA countries just discard those players who score a century but which doesnt change the outcome of the match and then they keep failing. Sir [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is right, Wasim Khan, Ehshan Mani and Misbah ul Haq are confident that they have such a bunch of fans who will go easy on players who score a century and keep failing series by series untill fans run out of patience after defending them for their pathetic performances. There is a reason why Pakistan team is ranked 7th and India and SENA countries are so improved and are in top 5.
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1 bad game and knives are out already. Have some patience. Test cricket is not easy. VVS Laxman had test average of 20 after 17 games. All teams are home track bullies these days. Pakistan is lagging behind because they don't play at home. NZ are a beast test side at home. They hammered us also last year (India). Atleast Fawad scored a century. This new guy Jammison is unplayable like Anderson at times.
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It's symptomatic of a mediocre team. Barring a couple of consistent performers and the odd good innings here and there by the likes of Azhar and Fawad, nobody is doing good enough at the moment.
The team has now morphed into a full blown image of a Misbah team - defensive, scared, slow, lacking confidence, bereft of ideas, turgid etc.
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Firstly, VVS averaged 20 after 17 games but he was 22 years old. He was a long-term investment for India and it paid off.
Fawad is 35 years old. He is not a long-term investment. He was picked at this stage of his career so that he can produce instant impact and utilize all the FC experience that he has gathered over the years.
He was basically expected to have the type of impact Voges had for Australia in 2015-16, when he averaged around 60 for 20 Tests before getting dropped because of old age.
He got his baggy green at the age of 35 after toiling in Shield Cricket for over a decade, and when he finally got his chance, he utilized that experience and hit the ground running in international cricket.
If Fawad needs a settling in period like rookie batsmen, then there is no point in selecting him because Pakistan is not going to reap any rewards 5, 10 years from now.
It is better to invest in a much younger batsman with a high FC average because even if that young batsmen needs a settling in period, there will be hope that he will repay the faith down the line.
Secondly, Pakistan is not lagging behind other teams because of not playing at home. Where do you think we were playing our home matches when we became the number 1 Test team in 2016?
The problem for Pakistan is that it is a very poor team with very poor cricketers. Poor cricketers who lack talent, skill and intelligence.
At the moment, our winning capacity is very limited against the strong sides. The only way we can win is if we play on turning tracks and throw Yasir Shah the ball, who is the only experienced match-winning Test bowler in Pakistan at the moment.
Salman Butt who you very keenly advocated for :
Matches 33 Runs 1889 Highest 122 Average 30.46 (Hundreds) 3 Fifties 10
The only thing going for his favor was his Aitchinsonian background. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. He is the original Shan Masood
Tolerating his B* form in an era of Inzi, Younis, Yousuf is even more worrying (when the standards were higher apparently)
Ouch
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Fawad Alam admirers have finally been vindicated.
Stick that in yer pipes and smoke it haters!!
Stick that in yer pipes and smoke it haters!!
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Yes.
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3 centuries in 15 test innings.
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Time people shut up now and finally admit it was a huge mistake hes not been in the test team over the last decade or so
When a player scores gritty runs you should make a point of coming out and stating this. We comment on the match situation as it unfolds. 30-4 is pretty tricky as was most of the innings he faced in New Zealand. There are days when the bowling is just too good..conditions and surface conspire just enough against a batsman therefore “unplayable “
But it’s good to see a batsman prove his worth by turning this tide somewhat. It’s what good batsmanship is about. Pakistan cricket does not have a player development programme though they are very proficient at destroying players. I think it’s testament to FA that despite having the most unusual cricket stance in world cricket and despite being constantly overlooked he shows some grit and answers back with a performance. Who needs tough opposition when you have your own incompetent board.
We may not win this test match but it’s good to see a player perform against a good attack in testing conditions. You should do more to acknowledge that it will give you some credibility.
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should have had around 100 tests under his belt now , lost 12 years of his career toiling in domestic cricket.
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Should have always played ahead of ASAD SHAFIQ
He knows how to sore runs at home and good for him Pakistan are now back playing at home. He would not have done any better than Shafiq whos got hundreds in SA, AUS & ENG away from home. But at home his domestic record is proven his technique works at home more than away.
Pakistan are yet to lose at HOME. Pakistan have been the only team who has been test No.1 without ever playing in home conditions but that was 4 years ago current team is not as good and need home comforts.
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I said it a billion times. Why did we drop him when he made a 168 in sri lanka when he was a young whippersnapper? why? ohhhh because erm he looked funny..hell his stance was relatively different then anyway. He anchored the innings with abdul razaaq against the saffer in the ODI series where razzaq went bezerk and hit those massive runs..he helped us win an asia cup..this guy was the batsman we were looking for to bat with yunus and misbah and azhar. hell he could have even played with shafiq in the side..
He has been treated like a peasant.
And lets get onto our so called experts on this forum..you guys dont know anything about cricket. I eman you really don't. I've watched cricket for nearly 40 years. its not hard to pick out a batsman who looks good enough for a decent 10-15 test run. But we have so called philosophers of cricket on this forum telling us cockamamy nonsense about "yay technique yay hay" "us ka cover drive acha hay"...abay doob muro sub nailak loag!!
And then we have our resident hater..lol..I hope fawad continues to hit century after century so I can watch this individual squirm and squirm like a worm..
He has been treated like a peasant.
And lets get onto our so called experts on this forum..you guys dont know anything about cricket. I eman you really don't. I've watched cricket for nearly 40 years. its not hard to pick out a batsman who looks good enough for a decent 10-15 test run. But we have so called philosophers of cricket on this forum telling us cockamamy nonsense about "yay technique yay hay" "us ka cover drive acha hay"...abay doob muro sub nailak loag!!
And then we have our resident hater..lol..I hope fawad continues to hit century after century so I can watch this individual squirm and squirm like a worm..
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Absurd that posters also bashed him here.
Nobody gives anyone a chance, like Tendulkar said one time when he got out for a low score in the post match conference that you can't score in every game/innings.
The majority of these guys on here would chop and change a team after one failed innings and are quick to point out failures.
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Fawad should have seen it through to the close of play, and it's fair to criticize him for a soft dismissal, however, the two batsmen that should really be criticized today for getting starts and then throwing it away are Azhar and Rizwan.
I would rather take an 88 lead which is quite decent given the pitch, they'll be nervous to bat SA.
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None of the wickets that have fallen in this innings, apart from arguably Imran Butt's and even that dismissal was attributable to poor technique, have been due to the pitch misbehaving. There is variable bounce and inconsistent pace, but it's not unplayable. The ball hasn't spun sharply either.
If South Africa collapse tomorrow, it'll be down to inept batting more than bad batting conditions.
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When you are a 35 years old batsman with 12k runs at an average of 55, there are no “little steps”.
If he is going to play like an immature, inexperienced batsman and score baby hundreds in-between single digit scores, then there is no point in selecting him to begin with.
Also, I don’t need approval from delusional Pakistani fans over how bright I am or what my level of understanding of the game is.
Pakistan is the most ignorant and intelligently bankrupt cricket nation in the world, and over my years on this forum, I am fully aware of the posters who have contributed to those titles.
If he is going to play like an immature, inexperienced batsman and score baby hundreds in-between single digit scores, then there is no point in selecting him to begin with.
Also, I don’t need approval from delusional Pakistani fans over how bright I am or what my level of understanding of the game is.
Pakistan is the most ignorant and intelligently bankrupt cricket nation in the world, and over my years on this forum, I am fully aware of the posters who have contributed to those titles.
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And 3rd century in 8th Test, take that haters.. really happy for him.. the people who never selected should apologise to him publicly..
On this pitch and if you've done an analysis on Nuaman Ali in particular he can skittle a team in a second innings and has done so in QeA.
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So he almost scored double of his average, good by him..
He's done what he done on this pitch and was expected of doing on this pitch, last 6 innings barring this hundred his ave was 102 with a SR of 46 on this pitch with a HS of 211.
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I have no doubt that this is the ideal surface for an accurate spinner like Nauman Ali, but I still feel that concerns over the pitch have been overplayed. If South Africa bat sensibly tomorrow, not that I think that's probable given how they batted on day 1, they can accumulate a lead over 200.
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55 averaging batsmen are not satisfied after scoring 109. They are always looking to cash in on their form and go for big innings.
This guy is super satisfied with his performance judging by his press conference, which says a lot about his mentality.
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I do think we need to move on from Fawad as I feel he'll be found wanting on faster wickets due to his age.
The biggest mistake that Pakistan made over the last 10 years was to retain Misbah as captain of the test side, following his failures with the bat and in his leadership during the 2013 South Africa and Zimbabwe tours.
This was the perfect time to bring in Fawad and have either him or Younis lead the side instead.
Misbah kept him out of the side during his captaincy for obvious reasons. Now he's trying to make up for it.
The biggest mistake that Pakistan made over the last 10 years was to retain Misbah as captain of the test side, following his failures with the bat and in his leadership during the 2013 South Africa and Zimbabwe tours.
This was the perfect time to bring in Fawad and have either him or Younis lead the side instead.
Misbah kept him out of the side during his captaincy for obvious reasons. Now he's trying to make up for it.
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Pakistan is a small team, to pretend otherwise is nothing more than unwarranted ego inflation. As a small player for a small team Fawad scored a small hundred, and it seems to have infuriated some small minded cheerleaders which makes me happy to a small degree.
Well the pacers will need to do a job tomorrow, look at the turn Yasir got and how easy he was able to bowl out the tail. This needed someone like Shamsi which i have to say i would've been scared had he played regardless of his lack of test experience. Mahraj although he got wickets was ineffective and didn't have a proper partner in Linde who was I'm sorry average at best.
Honestly, 100 lead will be even decent. Tomorrow is also a good day to bat so i'd want Pakistan to not throw anything away and bat at least the full first session (if possible) because the longer the game goes trust me the harder it will be to bat.
Look at the experience/inexperience of the SA batsmen and ask yourself who will really stand up? Mark my words inshAllah Nuaman and Yasir will be a handful tomorrow and if they need a part timer we have Fawad.
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You cant call him a bad batsman and ignore the FC performances, and then when he performs in international cricket - say that his innings isn't a great test knock because his average is so high in domestic.
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I think Mamoon is being harsh here towards Fawad's achievement but I do agree with him that our players tend to go over the moon after achieving some small success.
We saw how Sarfraz's career went downhill after the CT win because he thought he had made it and there was nothing else to prove. This was reflected by his lax attitude to fitness, diet and practice.
I want to see our players hungry for greatness not settled and content with a small bit of success here and there.
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The issue, as always, is fan reaction. If they accept that Fawad is just a 35-40 averaging batsman, I will not criticize him for scoring 109.
However, first they hype up his FC average of 55 and then they also distribute mithai when he scores 109. Looks like they themselves do not have expectations from him in spite of hyping his average.
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Who here has said Fawad is more than a 35-40 averaging batsman? Hyping up his 55 average in domestics doesn't mean anyone in their right mind expects him to average 55 internationally.
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3rd hundred in first 8 tests Good on him Hope hes finishes his career with a sub 45 avge
A big smile to the haters Keep burning
A big smile to the haters Keep burning
So critise the people who have scored runs but we should not critise the ones that haven't right ?
Went through the comments above; they read like some of the pettiest exchanges one may ever come across 
This is not over yet. PAK had the chance of putting this game to bed though with Azhar, Fawad, Faheem all bowing out with soft dismissals, it may be a closer game than ideal.
Even if we manage to eke out a win, no point glossing over the fact that a more clinical side would have looked to bat SAF out of the game once and for all. Up to Hassan, Nauman and Yasir to add c. 40-50 more.
Posted at the end of Day 1 that some of PAK's best batsmen for these conditions were at the helm and there was a chance they might grind out one of their 'ugly' innings. Thankfully they scraped an OK amount.
Didn't watch the day's play but have just seen the highlights. They hardly mean much in cricket due to lack of context. However, some obvious observations:
- Fawad's first 60 runs did not look fluent even by his ungainly standards. For that matter, Azhar too seemed to be second guessing his own feet while playing spin
- SAF analysed the footage well and Fawad's 'stock shot' of "flicking" (a.k.a the thick inside edge he gets) the ball to deep fine leg for a single is under some threat
- SAF positioned two shortish midwickets and a short fine leg/leg gully because unlike most batsmen Fawad is vulnerable to "flicking" it in the air when playing the full/length delivery - we normally see this field for for short of length deliveries at batsmen. His weight/balance teetering towards covers and the bat being much further ahead of his body causes the ball to go in the air and there were some chances created behind square in such fashion (a side-on graphic at impact may help demonstrate this)
- SAF actually managed to dismiss Fawad with this trap: Fawad got out to one of the catching midwickets instead of the fine leg/leg gully
- Good to see SAF have a catching cover for Rizwan and try the one-two with Faheem (bouncer and then length) as his feet tend to get stuck at times after a bouncer (however, this happens to a lot of batsmen)
- Was strange that SAF did not manage to strike with reverse swing; SAF were getting pretty decent shape at decent pace. Rizwan navigated the indippers well, I guess. Teams do need to strike early in PAK with reverse swing as the ball can go soft sooner
Overall, good on Fawad to grind out a 100. Hopefully this 100 manages to get PAK the result they desire unlike the NZD one.
If he can sustain this his success story will always resonate with PAK at all times. Long way to go in the game and for him individually.
This is not over yet. PAK had the chance of putting this game to bed though with Azhar, Fawad, Faheem all bowing out with soft dismissals, it may be a closer game than ideal.
Even if we manage to eke out a win, no point glossing over the fact that a more clinical side would have looked to bat SAF out of the game once and for all. Up to Hassan, Nauman and Yasir to add c. 40-50 more.
Posted at the end of Day 1 that some of PAK's best batsmen for these conditions were at the helm and there was a chance they might grind out one of their 'ugly' innings. Thankfully they scraped an OK amount.
Didn't watch the day's play but have just seen the highlights. They hardly mean much in cricket due to lack of context. However, some obvious observations:
- Fawad's first 60 runs did not look fluent even by his ungainly standards. For that matter, Azhar too seemed to be second guessing his own feet while playing spin
- SAF analysed the footage well and Fawad's 'stock shot' of "flicking" (a.k.a the thick inside edge he gets) the ball to deep fine leg for a single is under some threat
- SAF positioned two shortish midwickets and a short fine leg/leg gully because unlike most batsmen Fawad is vulnerable to "flicking" it in the air when playing the full/length delivery - we normally see this field for for short of length deliveries at batsmen. His weight/balance teetering towards covers and the bat being much further ahead of his body causes the ball to go in the air and there were some chances created behind square in such fashion (a side-on graphic at impact may help demonstrate this)
- SAF actually managed to dismiss Fawad with this trap: Fawad got out to one of the catching midwickets instead of the fine leg/leg gully
- Good to see SAF have a catching cover for Rizwan and try the one-two with Faheem (bouncer and then length) as his feet tend to get stuck at times after a bouncer (however, this happens to a lot of batsmen)
- Was strange that SAF did not manage to strike with reverse swing; SAF were getting pretty decent shape at decent pace. Rizwan navigated the indippers well, I guess. Teams do need to strike early in PAK with reverse swing as the ball can go soft sooner
Overall, good on Fawad to grind out a 100. Hopefully this 100 manages to get PAK the result they desire unlike the NZD one.
If he can sustain this his success story will always resonate with PAK at all times. Long way to go in the game and for him individually.
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No one has ever said they expect Fawad to average 55 in international cricket. It has always been - *** doesn't he get chances when he has the best domestic record. On a long run basis a person with Fawad's skillset is more likely to be a better batsman and a better contributor to the team than someone who has exceptional technique but doesn't seem to perform in domestics.
On top of that Fawad has been an excellent fielder!
And the "mithai" you speak about is basically everytime Fawad scores big is vindication for what we've been saying all along.
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Fawad is never going to be the most pleasing on the eye batsman and at times his technique will cause him problems.
But what you will get from him is commitment, 100% effort and fighting for the team's cause. That is good enough for me and many.
But what you will get from him is commitment, 100% effort and fighting for the team's cause. That is good enough for me and many.
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Fawad is 35, he can still play international cricket pretty easily for the next 2-3 years. He'll be crucial for our success in the next WTC cycle. Away series' in SL, BD, and WI, home series' against Australia, England, and NZ. Hopefully he can make a mountain of runs.
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I have never been a fan because his style is ugly but he has shown that he is mentally tough and on home wickets in particular he has to play.
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Batsmen that get in on this wicket should make it count. No one should be satisfied with pretty 30s or ugly 50s.
Fawad should be disappointed with getting out before the close of play, his job wasn't done. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean we shouldn't praise him.
.Really dude???
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An ugly 50 so far but runs are runs!
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Fawad Alam is an inspiring story.
We are such a rubbish ODI team, i say no harm in trying Fawad Alam in ODIs..
We are such a rubbish ODI team, i say no harm in trying Fawad Alam in ODIs..
Same, I was opposed to the idea initially but yea let's bring him in now. He has good fitness and could be integral in the middle.
Call it what you want but this was not an easy pitch to bat on as predicted. The Dukes ball + grass on the wicket.
Harris Sohail's batting is equally ugly but thankfully he doesn't stay at the wicket much longer.
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Was our highest run scorer in the first inning on this pitch where others were pretty much average to poor.
He scored runs and that's what matters. There could be a case that he should have scored a bigger knock but from the mediocre batting display overall, he was the best today.
He scored runs and that's what matters. There could be a case that he should have scored a bigger knock but from the mediocre batting display overall, he was the best today.
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I strongly agree. Fawad will be an asset in middle order. His average in ODIs tells about his capabilities. Many will come out with rubbish talk of not being able to hit bounderies. I don't agree with them
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Seales turned Fawad inside out as he got out for a 3-ball duck:
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Fawad has now scored a century in 4 out of the 5 series played since his comeback. 3 of those 4 centuries have come away from home. Phenomenal player.
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I hope he play another 5 years at least
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Keeping him out for a decade is the most glaring injustice I’ve seen in Pakistan cricket. Yet another skillful inning in tough conditions.
Sadly he doesn’t have a lot of time left at age 35 but really hope he has another couple of productive years. Of course his numerous detractors will be on his case every time he fails but for now they can eat cake.
Sadly he doesn’t have a lot of time left at age 35 but really hope he has another couple of productive years. Of course his numerous detractors will be on his case every time he fails but for now they can eat cake.
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He definitely missed his peak tho.
In the last 2-3 years he’s been averaging 40ish in domestics. For a good 5 years he was average 65+ every season pretty much. So even if he is playing now this ain’t his peak
I can think of another few in same scenario right now
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All substance, zero style. That's Fawad Alam for you. And quite honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Exactly.
Fawad now in his last 3 series and this one averages above 50. Just needs to be mindful of making runs consistently in every innings and be careful of the calling of running between the wickets.
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babar has failed to show hes an innings builder, even in domestics he has one giant double hundred, and only two other hundreds in 40 odd first class games.
as good as he is, unless he levels up that ability to rack up big daddy hundreds he will not fulfull his potential, which doesnt mean he wont still be a good batsmen, but not the white knight pak were expecting him to be.
I think given the rubbish situation Babar was given he’s done well. You ain’t always gonna score 100s all the time but it takes a true leader to declare when he should, support the players when they do well and bat in a crisis situation just like he did in Pakistan against SA and then again in this match.
We are always too harsh on players but we need to look at the match scenario and how somebody’s contribution turned that around.
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read my post again, i have not said anywhere his runs were not crucial, but you cant ignore the elephant in the room, he has a propensity to get out at the start of a new day and 8 hundreds in 70 first class games and an average of 41 shows that there is room for improvement.
You go through peaks and troughs in your career so it’s understandable if you don’t always get runs, I think as someone gets older they get wiser, for a start in tests Babar has done well.
Maybe the other thing to look at is he stressed from the captaincy in all 3 formats? It’ll come in time you can’t always look back and let your mind play tricks about some of your weaknesses, he just needs to make sure he steps up in times of crisis, the records will come.
yup Babar needs to level up ... As elite as he is in LOIs, he hasn't reached that world class level in tests ... thought his run from 2018-2020 where he averaged 61 was the sign of his ascendency but it has stalled in the past year ... hopefully playing with Fawad, a real superstar in this format can help Babar convert more of his 50s into 100s ... still got time
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He had the second highest average in the first edition of the WTC....
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In the name of backing "taulents" PCB may have ruined his career or at least contributed to him not realizing his full potential as a Test batsman.
Yep but Babar has had more exposure to different conditions i.e. away and Fawad has only been exposed to home conditions.
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