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[VIDEOS] February 2020 Delhi riots - Mobs attack Muslims, mosques

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When musicians who have all their lives rallied for peace, start taking notice of the massacres in India, it is time the world must stand up and take notice. Stand up on the right side of history. <a href="https://t.co/WdYv4YBSmT">pic.twitter.com/WdYv4YBSmT</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1233030656030060546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Now you are trivializing the concept of Hindutva and Bhakth in current context.

The core issue in India is Hindutva vs the rest of the minorities, hence the violence promoted and supported by government officials.

Hindutva has become synonymous to Hindu domination in India, which everyone knows is dangerous and unsustainable.

Your personal preference to any particular poster is a personal preference, like anyone else do.

What I've noticed and suggesting is that lets stop justifying bigotry and ignorance, and sure, everyone has their own reason for bigotry and ignorance.

It's not that I am trivilizing.

It's just that you are not aware of the situation.

You don't live here so you don't know the spectrum.

Your only source is news and some attempts at deflection so you have the views you have.

Hindutva may mean Hindu domination to RSS/BJP but that doesn't mean everyone who subscribes to Hindutva wants every Muslim to be cut up and thrown in the gutter.

Now there is hate. Massive massive hate. But it's NOT the case everywhere or for everbody.

I know soooo many who voted for BJP for Hindu pride.

Just explaining the complexities of it all.

Also who is justifying bigotry here? Crazy claims are getting ripped apart.
 
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It's not that I am trivilizing.

It's just that you are not aware of the situation.

You don't live here so you don't know the spectrum.

Your only source is news and some attempts at deflection so you have the views you have.

Hindutva may mean Hindu domination to RSS/BJP but that doesn't mean everyone who subscribes to Hindutva wants every Muslim to be cut up and thrown in the gutter.

Now there is hate. Massive massive hate. But it's NOT the case everywhere or for everbody.

I know soooo many who voted for BJP for Hindu pride.

Just explaining the complexities of it all.

Also who is justifying bigotry here? Crazy claims are getting ripped apart.

You are contradicting yourself.

India, already is, Hindu dominated and will continue to be.
 
You are contradicting yourself.

India, already is, Hindu dominated and will continue to be.

Bhai rehne de.

There is something called context of discussion. You asked me something. I responded in that context.

If you can't see the basic point I am making, let's not beat this dead horse.

Let's move on.

Not an important discussion right now anyway.
 
Also who is justifying bigotry here? Crazy claims are getting ripped apart.

Considering the misunderstandings, I have to say this means that people are responding to the claims made by BJP supporters.
 
Hahaha:

Still on the 50-50 drama? :))

Ok PUNISH Amit Shah for letting the riots continue.

Punish EVERY person (those who instigated violence) from both sides.

Hisaab barabar.

Agree?

If not, just 3 questions:

1. Why did Police support rioters and break CCTV?

2. Why did riots continue for so long when its established govt CAN stop riots if they want to? What happened to ALL the questions you asked me about start and end date of riot.

3. Why shouldn't I call top brass of BJP as traitors?

Why Shah. If Modi is found responsible, him too. Kejriwal,RaGa whoever is responsible punish them.

1. MSM hasnt said a thing about police supporting rioters.

2. In my lifetime i have seen 1989,1992,2002,2013 and now 2020 riots. Go through all of them and see how long they lasted. Most of the time, cong was in power.

3. Why only bjp, everyone involved is a criminal.
 
Why Shah. If Modi is found responsible, him too. Kejriwal,RaGa whoever is responsible punish them.

1. MSM hasnt said a thing about police supporting rioters.

2. In my lifetime i have seen 1989,1992,2002,2013 and now 2020 riots. Go through all of them and see how long they lasted. Most of the time, cong was in power.

3. Why only bjp, everyone involved is a criminal.

Aren’t there literal videos that show police breaking down cameras? Are you saying those videos are fake or are you saying you won’t even believe your own eyes until the MSM tells you to?
 
Aren’t there literal videos that show police breaking down cameras? Are you saying those videos are fake or are you saying you won’t even believe your own eyes until the MSM tells you to?

Oof savage :yk2
 
Read a report some Muslims are attacking police who are helping the terrorists.

Not sure if this is true but if true, finally they are waking up.
 
South India is relatively safe from the poisonous RSS ideology especially Kerala. We are not grown up in an environment where hatred prevails.

So as long as YOU are safe, Jai Hind? :thumbsup

Kayaal is a v good poster but I agree with you. Even now they have this pretence of being somehow level with Hindus in India. And it's very naive. She sounds v surprised at all this when most of us saw it coming years ago.

Sure, from here posts a good person too but the mentality is selfish. It seems Indian Muslims will love 'their' country as long it's not them being lynched.

If Indian Muslims supported Kashmiris, they wouldn't be in this position today.
 
How quickly things change. Just look at some old threads and you will find some padhosi posters saying «Pakistan are isolated, Pakistan are burning, it’s a terrorist country, it’s a matter of time before it’s split in 4 etc» Look how India are burning now and whole World is reporting about riots, hatred, fascism there.
 
Now you are trivializing the concept of Hindutva and Bhakth in current context.

The core issue in India is Hindutva vs the rest of the minorities, hence the violence promoted and supported by government officials.

Hindutva has become synonymous to Hindu domination in India, which everyone knows is dangerous and unsustainable.

Your personal preference to any particular poster is a personal preference, like anyone else do.

What I've noticed and suggesting is that lets stop justifying bigotry and ignorance, and sure, everyone has their own reason for bigotry and ignorance.

I am genuinely curious, do you have proper source of police escorting Hindus to attack the Muslims?. Should have would have could have will not be considered a source..
 
indias muslims will continue to pay the price for believing simply because they were part of a system they had a stake in the system. day after day, month after month, the riots may stop, the lynchings may stop, but they will forever be the others, the ones who have to prove their indianness, the last few years have shown that.

indian muslims know that but its not worth it speaking out because standing out will simply mean being mowed down, better to stay in line and hope you dont get noticed. im with [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] on this, have very little sympathy for them however, simply because they have never organised and fought for their rights collectively, and in their blind desire to appease the majority rejected the history they should have learnt from.
 
I am genuinely curious, do you have proper source of police escorting Hindus to attack the Muslims?. Should have would have could have will not be considered a source..
Google NDTV reporters Saurabh Shukla and Arvind Gunasekhar attacked by Hindu mob.
Reference made by Arvind that 14 or so Hindu rioters accompanied by two police officers go to a place of worship and start destroying it.
The video is on this thread and also readily available.
One of many sources that are out there if you have the inclination to seek them out
 
So as long as YOU are safe, Jai Hind? :thumbsup



Sure, from here posts a good person too but the mentality is selfish. It seems Indian Muslims will love 'their' country as long it's not them being lynched.

If Indian Muslims supported Kashmiris, they wouldn't be in this position today.

It’s not about my safety but the way I look at this Hindu Muslim thing. Yes here(in Kerala) i do consider myself equal to Hindus, not any less or more. I don’t live in a ghetto to be bombarded by the evil Hindus stories. My neighbor is a hindu, my friends, colleagues, my roommate in college most of them are Hindus. Infact my Quran and my roomates Framed photo of Shiva used to lie side by side because of lack of space. These things might be unheard for you but this is how i lived. And i love this land a lot because these are my people irrespective of religion. And growing up I thought the rest of India will also be like that but i was wrong. I could see this only now tbh.

Regarding Kashmir, i am not vocal like Pakistanis like you. But we do sympathise with them and at the same time considers them as part of India too. And my support or anyone else support to them matters zilch tbh. No matter what Indian Muslims want, the central government will do whatever they like on Kashmir. Whatever there is in the name of Jamaate hind etc are puppets of the political parties. They don’t represent us.
 
It’s not about my safety but the way I look at this Hindu Muslim thing. Yes here(in Kerala) i do consider myself equal to Hindus, not any less or more. I don’t live in a ghetto to be bombarded by the evil Hindus stories. My neighbor is a hindu, my friends, colleagues, my roommate in college most of them are Hindus. Infact my Quran and my roomates Framed photo of Shiva used to lie side by side because of lack of space. These things might be unheard for you but this is how i lived. And i love this land a lot because these are my people irrespective of religion. And growing up I thought the rest of India will also be like that but i was wrong. I could see this only now tbh.

Regarding Kashmir, i am not vocal like Pakistanis like you. But we do sympathise with them and at the same time considers them as part of India too. And my support or anyone else support to them matters zilch tbh. No matter what Indian Muslims want, the central government will do whatever they like on Kashmir. Whatever there is in the name of Jamaate hind etc are puppets of the political parties. They don’t represent us.

I live in the UK which is one of the most multicultural nations on the planet. Here you can find people from over 6 different faiths living within 1/2 km from each other. Not sure why you think India is special because you and your Hindu mate have their religous articles side by side. You say you are equal to a Hindu, sure if you actually believe you live in a secular society but have a look at the laws, you are inferior because you are a Muslim. You yourself stated your Muslim neighbours are scared in case they dont have the documentation. Were your Hindus neighbours also scared?

Of course Indian Muslims are not vocal, we know this from day 1 of the occupation of Kashmir, so you stating this is not a surprise.

To say we cannot do anything as Muslims in India is a weak, scared and not caring response. 200 million people in any country, at any time in history should have power but not Indian Muslims.

Indian Muslims can keep on living in a fantasy, the terrorists are slowly working their way down south. Best of luck for the future, i mean this sincerely. If you can post on here in 10 years time, I will be shocked.
 
Google NDTV reporters Saurabh Shukla and Arvind Gunasekhar attacked by Hindu mob.
Reference made by Arvind that 14 or so Hindu rioters accompanied by two police officers go to a place of worship and start destroying it.
The video is on this thread and also readily available.
One of many sources that are out there if you have the inclination to seek them out

Yeah I saw bits of that video but that is an alleged statement, was there any video recording like when the police were smashing the video cameras etc ?... All I hearing is Hindu did this Muslim did that....
 
Yeah I saw bits of that video but that is an alleged statement, was there any video recording like when the police were smashing the video cameras etc ?... All I hearing is Hindu did this Muslim did that....

Serious question bro. Why cant people from the subcontinent actually fight like men?

The violence would be really sad, shocking to see if the people fighting didnt look like they came out of a pantomime? Im point to all , not any one religion.
 
I am genuinely curious, do you have proper source of police escorting Hindus to attack the Muslims?. Should have would have could have will not be considered a source..

No you aren’t genuinely curious.

Your history of commenting suggest that no amount of evidence will be sufficient.

It’s the world of internet, you can find plenty of it.
 
No you aren’t genuinely curious.


Your history of commenting suggest that no amount of evidence will be sufficient.

It’s the world of internet, you can find plenty of it.

So you can't back what you are saying.
 
I live in the UK which is one of the most multicultural nations on the planet. Here you can find people from over 6 different faiths living within 1/2 km from each other. Not sure why you think India is special because you and your Hindu mate have their religous articles side by side. You say you are equal to a Hindu, sure if you actually believe you live in a secular society but have a look at the laws, you are inferior because you are a Muslim. You yourself stated your Muslim neighbours are scared in case they dont have the documentation. Were your Hindus neighbours also scared?

Of course Indian Muslims are not vocal, we know this from day 1 of the occupation of Kashmir, so you stating this is not a surprise.

To say we cannot do anything as Muslims in India is a weak, scared and not caring response. 200 million people in any country, at any time in history should have power but not Indian Muslims.

Indian Muslims can keep on living in a fantasy, the terrorists are slowly working their way down south. Best of luck for the future, i mean this sincerely. If you can post on here in 10 years time, I will be shocked.

:facepalm: I meant you might be unheard of this happening in India not UK. My English is poor maybe that’s the reason you got it wrong.

Regarding CAA, it doesn’t affect Muslims now but only after the introduction of NRC it’s dangerous. Amit Shah is a dangerous man who became our home minister from last year. Muslims fear him because he is an islamophobic and does whatever he says even if it’s unconstitutional. Does that mean we turn against the peaceful malayali Hindus because of that idiot? Ours is a predominantly communist state and BJP has negligible power as of now. Bjp machinery is doing their best but we will see what happens next.

We have no unity among Muslims. We value our cultural identity more than religion and we are scattered all over place following different madhabs. I don’t think there ever will be such unity to fight anything let alone Kashmir.

And In Sha Allah, i will try to post after 10years if i am still alive and didn’t forget the Pp password.;-)
 
Serious question bro. Why cant people from the subcontinent actually fight like men?

The violence would be really sad, shocking to see if the people fighting didnt look like they came out of a pantomime? Im point to all , not any one religion.

The issue here is bratharr that this was a well planned and coordinated riot. The timing of the intense nature while Trump was in town. BJP in my assessment of things did not start this, this my hypothesis has Congress finger prints all over it.. Sad that people can't see this, this is a genetic deformity that people from the sub continent have unfortunately.

Also in regards to Kaayal, she is telling the truth, she is my from my state of birth. Muslims there are treated like royalty and for the Hindus there majority of them don't care about religion they say in my mother tougue: Oru Jathi Oru Manushyan Oru Deyivam meaning 1 religion, 1 human, 1 god none of the your god is better than mine concept..
 
:facepalm: I meant you might be unheard of this happening in India not UK. My English is poor maybe that’s the reason you got it wrong.

Regarding CAA, it doesn’t affect Muslims now but only after the introduction of NRC it’s dangerous. Amit Shah is a dangerous man who became our home minister from last year. Muslims fear him because he is an islamophobic and does whatever he says even if it’s unconstitutional. Does that mean we turn against the peaceful malayali Hindus because of that idiot? Ours is a predominantly communist state and BJP has negligible power as of now. Bjp machinery is doing their best but we will see what happens next.

We have no unity among Muslims. We value our cultural identity more than religion and we are scattered all over place following different madhabs. I don’t think there ever will be such unity to fight anything let alone Kashmir.

And In Sha Allah, i will try to post after 10years if i am still alive and didn’t forget the Pp password.;-)

He is the one who is in charge of the BJP, Modi is too stupid to even be the PM's boot cleaner.

What is their to fear? To even write 'Muslims fear him' make no sense to me as a Muslim. We as Muslims only fear our Lord, the one who has the power to take and give.

200 million scared of the RSS clown brigades is funny. We in the UK are a smaller minority but when the likes of the EDL came to our towns, they went home with different faces. Its no coincidene they dont bother any more. Once you let cowardly bullies terrorrists to scare you, they will only do worse.

Its ok, dont worry about Kashmir, we dont need Indian Muslims, we as Pakistanis will one day Godwilling liberate this land because they are our family, our brothers and sisters even if they are not of the Indian Muslims.

I hope Im wrong. Sorry for any harsh words, may the Alimigthy keep you and your family safe. If not come to the UK. :)
 
The issue here is bratharr that this was a well planned and coordinated riot. The timing of the intense nature while Trump was in town. BJP in my assessment of things did not start this, this my hypothesis has Congress finger prints all over it.. Sad that people can't see this, this is a genetic deformity that people from the sub continent have unfortunately.

Also in regards to Kaayal, she is telling the truth, she is my from my state of birth. Muslims there are treated like royalty and for the Hindus there majority of them don't care about religion they say in my mother tougue: Oru Jathi Oru Manushyan Oru Deyivam meaning 1 religion, 1 human, 1 god none of the your god is better than mine concept..

BJP dont like Muslims, this is no secret and no BJP supporter can refute this because we have numerous anti Muslim statements and policies to see. This is what started this. It means nothing to me, India burning isnt a worry for me but people regardless of their faith suffering is not nice to see.

Her area is still part of India. When new anti Muslims laws are passed , one after the other, she might as well be living in Dehli.

Hope things sort themselves out because a stable India is good for Pakistan but at the moment Pakista n is sitting back with popcorn, enjoying the show.

Indians and Pakistani in the UK, US or OZ have no such animosity, so it's proof we can all live together.
 
Mohandas Pai, ex Director, Infosys has a stake in OpIndia.
 
Needless to say, resident sanghi PPers will agree with their extremely communal views.
 
Hindus and Muslims both have been killed. It seems like both sides were prepared for this and all it took was one-off incidents/sparks for them to let loose. Judge that by looking at how quickly Hindu and Muslim mobs organized and even had petrol bombs and other weapons handy.

Perpetrators on all sides should be arrested and tried, regardless of their party or religious affiliations. Also need to look into if some administration or law enforcement official(s) were willfully negligent of their duties, and take action against them.

We may disagree on the CAA and even on what kind of country India should be, but can't let people riot and murder on the streets.
 
Aren’t there literal videos that show police breaking down cameras? Are you saying those videos are fake or are you saying you won’t even believe your own eyes until the MSM tells you to?

Breaking cameras or lathicharging people is supporting one group of rioters?

I am waiting for any credible media outlet to say that police supported rioters.

The first casualty of the riots was a policeman named Ratan Lal. Another DCP landed in the ICU.

If Police retaliated againist any rioter then its their right to do so.
 
indias muslims will continue to pay the price for believing simply because they were part of a system they had a stake in the system. day after day, month after month, the riots may stop, the lynchings may stop, but they will forever be the others, the ones who have to prove their indianness, the last few years have shown that.

indian muslims know that but its not worth it speaking out because standing out will simply mean being mowed down, better to stay in line and hope you dont get noticed. im with [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] on this, have very little sympathy for them however, simply because they have never organised and fought for their rights collectively, and in their blind desire to appease the majority rejected the history they should have learnt from.

Did Indian Muslims ask your help or sympathy? Have they done so in 70 years?

They gave an answer to Jinnah, seems it hasnt trickled down to you guys.

Tu kaun, main khamakha
 
Why Shah. If Modi is found responsible, him too. Kejriwal,RaGa whoever is responsible punish them.

1. MSM hasnt said a thing about police supporting rioters.

2. In my lifetime i have seen 1989,1992,2002,2013 and now 2020 riots. Go through all of them and see how long they lasted. Most of the time, cong was in power.

3. Why only bjp, everyone involved is a criminal.

In the last one year you have had borderline delusional views, it’s one thing to react to Pakistani posters but it’s time you analyze where you are heading mentally or is this even required because I have seen you post for years in defense of your belief but only offlate you are unable to differentiate between right and wrong and just arguing for the sake of it.

Irrespective 🙏 .
 
In the last one year you have had borderline delusional views, it’s one thing to react to Pakistani posters but it’s time you analyze where you are heading mentally or is this even required because I have seen you post for years in defense of your belief but only offlate you are unable to differentiate between right and wrong and just arguing for the sake of it.

Irrespective 🙏 .

Sir sitting in USA please dont pontificate to me regarding whats happening in India. I have my views and my views are based on thoughts about my welfare.

I dont need to defend. Neither India or any India is affected by what happens on this forum. Ofcourse there is nearly one sided narrative of anti Hindu or Anti India that gets support here due to obvious reasons. I post against it.

Before i posted you would hardly find a post about Hindu victims in these riots. Hardly any posts when Ratan Lal died or when Shahrukh was caught on camera shooting at Police men.

While this narrative may work here, in India onnthe ground it will fall flat on its face. People are wiser than they were in 2002. Thats what matters. What the people of India think. They will decide their future not anyone else.
 
Yeah I saw bits of that video but that is an alleged statement, was there any video recording like when the police were smashing the video cameras etc ?... All I hearing is Hindu did this Muslim did that....
No amount of evidence will satisfy you. Even credible journalists are making alleged statements according to you. In the case of the NDTV reporters you know why there is no video evidence & as the reporters mentioned the mob were snatching cameras from anyone attempting to make a recording.
There are many videos that show the police walking alongside Hindu mobs, hurling stones alongside the mobs and breaking CCTV cameras.
You need to engage your brain cells and open your mind to get out of the would have could have should have argument that you are hiding behind.

So you can't back what you are saying.
That’s the spirit keep your head firmly entrenched
 
The issue here is bratharr that this was a well planned and coordinated riot. The timing of the intense nature while Trump was in town. BJP in my assessment of things did not start this, this my hypothesis has Congress finger prints all over it.. Sad that people can't see this, this is a genetic deformity that people from the sub continent have unfortunately.
The guy that screams would have could have should have to everyone proceeds to post his version of, supposedly, who caused the riots without an ounce of evidence and full of his personal opinion and speculation.
The irony ...

Mr would have could have should have any evidence??
 
Breaking cameras or lathicharging people is supporting one group of rioters?

I am waiting for any credible media outlet to say that police supported rioters.

Breaking CCTV cameras is part of the official duty of the police? According to you why were they breaking CCTV cameras?
Why were they standing with Hindu mobs pelting stones alongside them?

In the UK the BBC reporters based in India have been saying this for the last two days.
 
Breaking CCTV cameras is part of the official duty of the police? According to you why were they breaking CCTV cameras?
Why were they standing with Hindu mobs pelting stones alongside them?

In the UK the BBC reporters based in India have been saying this for the last two days.

I think they broke only those CCTV which were being used by the rioters to know the location of the cops. Delhi police has asked citizens to provide videos in a 7 day window, the truth will come out.
 
The guy that screams would have could have should have to everyone proceeds to post his version of, supposedly, who caused the riots without an ounce of evidence and full of his personal opinion and speculation.
The irony ...

Mr would have could have should have any evidence??

Not very good with English are we there pal ?

Go google the definition of the word 'hypothesis'.

Your little Pakistani friend was posting it as a sure statement, so I asked for proof, heck if he was so sure, surely he can back it up...
 
What Modi is doing to India, can only be described by what is said in a popular, dubbed Javed Miandad Pepsi ad.
 
Breaking CCTV cameras is part of the official duty of the police? According to you why were they breaking CCTV cameras?
Why were they standing with Hindu mobs pelting stones alongside them?

In the UK the BBC reporters based in India have been saying this for the last two days.

Have you guys actually seen the footage of the rioters running into the library to hide after stoning the police pretending to read closed books while covering their faces?

What about the videos of the "students" breaking things in the library to make it look like the police was doing all the damage?

Even during exam times I have never seen a library that crowded at that time of the night. The student reps called on TV shows when asked to deny that there were no stone throwers/rioters in the library unequivocally deny that they can state that there were no rioters there.

In any country of the world - throwing rocks at the police would at least get you tasered if not shot.
 
This is not a clash between two groups.

This is State Sponsored Killing of a specific group.

SOPs always remain same aka "First they came for Delhi......"
 
You have to be a special kind of evil to defend, ignore or justify the atrocities being committed against Muslims in India right now, or victims of any genocide anywhere
 
Sir sitting in USA please dont pontificate to me regarding whats happening in India. I have my views and my views are based on thoughts about my welfare.

I dont need to defend. Neither India or any India is affected by what happens on this forum. Ofcourse there is nearly one sided narrative of anti Hindu or Anti India that gets support here due to obvious reasons. I post against it.

Before i posted you would hardly find a post about Hindu victims in these riots. Hardly any posts when Ratan Lal died or when Shahrukh was caught on camera shooting at Police men.

While this narrative may work here, in India onnthe ground it will fall flat on its face. People are wiser than they were in 2002. Thats what matters. What the people of India think. They will decide their future not anyone else.
Sir sitting in Kolkata don't try to act as if you know everything about the current situation in Delhi. :inti
 
Is what he is saying wrong?

Not entirely wrong but not 100% right as far as I know. I live in Gurgaon and have friends living in that part of Delhi where these riots happened.

Anti CAA protests have been going on for months and they had blocked an entire area- Shaheen bag. It started in some other adjoining areas like Jafrabad etc.

Just before these riots BJP leader Kapil Mishra and one other BJP MLA some Verma guy visited that area instigating locals to come out and clear these blockades. Everybody knows what happened next though different people have different versions. Stone pelting, Fire bombs, shooting etc happened from both sides. If BJP had this Mishra guy, AAP had Tahir Hussain doing the same.

What is worrying that Police did nothing or very little for 2 days. They acted as spectators. Clearly they were getting orders from somewhere. Surprisingly Once the matter escalated they gained control of the situation within 24 hours.
 
Wow you're quoting newslaundry.

Did you read their piece on opindia from whom you posted a tweet? :)

This was posted on the first page of this thread:

Anti-CAA riots in several areas of Aligarh, attack on Hindu temples and police vehicles, internet snapped: Report
OpIndia Staff On February 25, 2020

On Monday, several areas in Aligarh, UP witnesses violence by anti-CAA Muslim mobs. As per reports, violent mobs, with groups of Muslim women actively participating, went on a rampage in Uparkot, Turkman gate and Baniyapada areas.

As per reports, three Hindu temples have been attacked by the violent Muslim mob. The Muslim mob had jammed roads and halted traffics in Charkhabalan area too. Commuters and shop keepers in these areas were attacked too. Despite police presence, the mob allegedly kept on rioting and halting traffic from the morning till late afternoon on Sunday.

https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/ali...ce-raf-arson-stone-pelting-hindu-temples/amp/

Was this accurate news or fake? I didn't hear any more updates. Multiple mosques were attacked and there were images and videos to corroborate it. However, I didn't see anything about temples being attacked besides this article.
 
Was this accurate news or fake? I didn't hear any more updates. Multiple mosques were attacked and there were images and videos to corroborate it. However, I didn't see anything about temples being attacked besides this article.

Seems so, though they've omitted the attacks on Muslims and masjids.

There's a show of Ravish Kumar who's fairly reliable (despite being from NDTV :) ) where they went to parts of Delhi interviewing Hindus and Muslims where each was in a minority and was saved or protected by the other community. One of the scenes included the poojari of a temple in a Muslim dominated area who was protected from a stone pelting mob that tried to attack the temple. So yeah, the both sides argument is sort of right but excludes the important bit about who started things and brought in thugs in an organized fashion.
 
Seems so, though they've omitted the attacks on Muslims and masjids.

There's a show of Ravish Kumar who's fairly reliable (despite being from NDTV :) ) where they went to parts of Delhi interviewing Hindus and Muslims where each was in a minority and was saved or protected by the other community. One of the scenes included the poojari of a temple in a Muslim dominated area who was protected from a stone pelting mob that tried to attack the temple. So yeah, the both sides argument is sort of right but excludes the important bit about who started things and brought in thugs in an organized fashion.

Thanks.
 
BSF Jawan’s House Burned Down in Khajuri Khas by Rioters Shouting ‘Come Here Pakistani, Get Your Citizenship’

New Delhi: Among the hundreds and thousands of Muslim families huddled inside their homes in various colonies of northeast Delhi over the last few days was that of one Mohd Anees.

They hoped, or prayed, that the nameplate outside the two-storey house would give the rioters some pause. The mob was going one by one vandalizing and burning down each house in Khas Khajuri Gali on the afternoon of February 25.

The nameplate said house number 76 belonged to Mohd Anees of the BSF and also showed its insignia. But it was not enough to save them from the violence that was to be unleashed.

First the cars that stood outside the house were set on fire. For the next several minutes, the mob pelted stones at the house.

They shouted slogans of “idhar aa Pakistani, tujhe naagarikta dete hai (Come here Pakistani, we’ll give you citizenship)” as they then threw a gas cylinder in the house to set it on fire. That Anees had spent three years in Jammu and Kashmir guarding the border after joining the BSF in 2013 was lost on them.

Along with Anees, his father Mohd Munis, 55, uncle Mohd Ahmed, 59, and 18-year-old cousin Neha Parveen were in the house. Sensing what was about to go down next, they all escaped from the house, and were helped by paramilitary troops.

Charred remains of the house now stand where the house was till three days ago. In the two lanes of Khajuri Khas near Anees’s house, 35 houses were set on fire. Only one house belonging to a Muslim family was spared.

The loss suffered by the BSF soldier’s family was perhaps greater as they had kept all their life’s savings inside: two weddings in the family were to take place in the next three months.

Neha Parveen was to get married in April and Anees himself was to get married the following month. “All the things we collected all our life, jewellery – two gold necklaces, silver jewellery, it is all gone,” the family said.

“We used to buy jewellery on instalments… used to give money every month and collected this jewellery,” they said. Rs 3 lakh in cash for the wedding arrangements also got burnt along with other valuables and all their belongings.

Khajuri Khas is a Hindu-majority area, but Anees’s family says no neighbour of theirs was involved in the attack. “People came from outside.” Instead, their Hindu neighbours were asking the rioters to leave. They requested them to leave and helped douse the vehicles on fire.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/b...e-pakistani-get-your-citizenship-2518989.html
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BJP Spokesperson Sambit Patra "Hindu jago warna katne ke liye taiyyar ho jaao". If this is not a provocation to genocide, what is ? <a href="https://t.co/Vh9e38uFiY">pic.twitter.com/Vh9e38uFiY</a></p>— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) <a href="https://twitter.com/RanaAyyub/status/1233292044241600513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Why Shah. If Modi is found responsible, him too. Kejriwal,RaGa whoever is responsible punish them.

1. MSM hasnt said a thing about police supporting rioters.

2. In my lifetime i have seen 1989,1992,2002,2013 and now 2020 riots. Go through all of them and see how long they lasted. Most of the time, cong was in power.

3. Why only bjp, everyone involved is a criminal.

This is messed up on so many levels. lol.

We will get back to this later.
 
Alt News that some esteemed folks here call untrustworthy.

Yeh le lo.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A photograph of a policeman in Uttar Pradesh throwing stones during anti-CAA protests in December 2019 has been shared as Delhi. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltNewsFactCheck?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltNewsFactCheck</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/thisisjignesh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thisisjignesh</a> <a href="https://t.co/3Dpgy1pvtd">https://t.co/3Dpgy1pvtd</a></p>— Alt News (@AltNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AltNews/status/1233336076586102789?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A video from December 2019 where a family alleged that the police was releasing tear gas inside Muslim homes in Jafrabad has been revived during <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DelhiRiot2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DelhiRiot2020</a>. It is now being claimed that cops released 'chemical gas'. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltNewsFactCheck?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltNewsFactCheck</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/thisisjignesh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thisisjignesh</a><a href="https://t.co/RPIVLbtMlB">https://t.co/RPIVLbtMlB</a></p>— Alt News (@AltNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AltNews/status/1232982101936480256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Social media claims that the Jafrabad shooter’s name is Anurag Mishra are false. Read <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltNewsFactCheck?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltNewsFactCheck</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/Priyankajha0?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Priyankajha0</a> <a href="https://t.co/8QQbvgaiNp">https://t.co/8QQbvgaiNp</a></p>— Alt News (@AltNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AltNews/status/1232720004442939394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jafradbad shooter was misidentified on social media as part of a pro-CAA mob. However, Alt News verified that he emerged, with a gun in his hand, amidst anti-CAA protesters. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltNewsFactCheck?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltNewsFactCheck</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/thisisjignesh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thisisjignesh</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/free_thinker?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@free_thinker</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZmDKMilPGu">https://t.co/ZmDKMilPGu</a></p>— Alt News (@AltNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AltNews/status/1232669066474721282?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An old video has been shared to falsely claim that anti-CAA protesters blocked the area near Inderlok metro station amid <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DelhiRiots2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DelhiRiots2020</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AltNewsFactCheck?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AltNewsFactCheck</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/Pooja_Chaudhuri?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Pooja_Chaudhuri</a> <a href="https://t.co/bwda87DWsG">https://t.co/bwda87DWsG</a></p>— Alt News (@AltNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AltNews/status/1232697689005023232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:))

They turned out to be pretty neutral busting propaganda.

Can't say the same about other news outlets.
 
Saket is ABSOLUTELY destroying Delhi Police here.

These BOZOS gave permission to Kapil Mishra to hold a "peaceful" march on 27th Feb.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How did <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DelhiPolice</a> grant Kapil Mishra the permission for a "peace march" y'day after everything that has happened? Or was the march taken out without permission?<br><br>RTI to <a href="https://twitter.com/DCPNewDelhi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DCPNewDelhi</a> who seems eager to give permission to Kapil Mishra but was prompt in rejecting my request. <a href="https://t.co/zz4YRPptbO">pic.twitter.com/zz4YRPptbO</a></p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1233320428464037888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Look at this lol.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SG Tushar Mehta says in Delhi HC that “it’s not a conducive time to register FIRs against BJP leaders”. <br><br>The only thing this can mean is that he’s admitting in open court that the mobs are BJP-sponsored & filing an FIR against BJP leaders will incite them further.</p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1233037780915109889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The BIGGEST LOLFER

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Delhi Police said in court that the slogan “goli maaro saalon ko” by Anurag Thakur/Kapil Mishra isn’t a cognizable offense. <br><br>Need a copy of that report for my case on why I was refused permission for the same slogan. <br><br>Can anyone in touch with Brinda Karat/her team pls help out?</p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1232905981803188224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Permission denied for one guy. No offence for another guy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No cognizable offense? <br><br>Then why did you refuse permission to me to hold a rally chanting the same slogan <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DelhiPolice</a>? <br><br>Good you haven’t submitted the final ATR in court yet. We need to talk. <a href="https://t.co/1faIl7pQQm">https://t.co/1faIl7pQQm</a></p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1232636390032044033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This will be interesting. But who will verify what they say.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I've issued 2 RTI requests to the PMO & MHA asking:<br><br>A. Copies of briefings given to Modi & Shah on the Delhi riots<br><br>B. Orders issued by them in response to that, if any<br><br>They're REQUIRED by law to do their jobs. <br><br>Nero cannot play the fiddle twice & get away with it. Nope. <a href="https://t.co/PCwtBp3RfH">pic.twitter.com/PCwtBp3RfH</a></p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1232302329161904128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Delhi Police has been CAUGHT supporting one side so many times it's not even funny.

Who are these BJP supporters trying to fool? :))

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Next post about AAP TRAITORS.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shame on the Aam Aadmi Party & its MLAs! <br><br>Pls read this shocking statement. <br><br>They literally turned their backs on the people while Delhi burns. <br><br>How did you sleep at night with this Mr. <a href="https://twitter.com/ArvindKejriwal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArvindKejriwal</a>? <a href="https://t.co/PWf0D0soHV">https://t.co/PWf0D0soHV</a></p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1232296173437718528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

One side lets people get killed.

Other side washes their hands off saying police is NOT in their control.

AAP are traitors.

BJP are complete anti nationals.

Yet one side will wanna blame it all on AAP but stay mum on BJP.

Is it moral bankruptcy or complete denial? That's the question.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What Amit Shah & Modi keep forgetting is that someday they’ll be “ex” ministers. <br><br>That if the Constitution withstands their onslaught & emerges unscathed, they’ll be standing trial for crimes against humanity.</p>— Saket Gokhale (@SaketGokhale) <a href="https://twitter.com/SaketGokhale/status/1232134412302610433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Laugh all you want now.

But wait and watch.

You gotta answer one day.
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]

Thank you SOO much for your posts yaar.

By the way, how do you feel getting called Jihadi by rabid Bhakths and being called selfish by certain Pakistanis?

Must be horrifying. :(

What are you supposed to do? Take up arms and fight the state?

Also what's this deal of taking comments by one and quoting others for it.

I don't have to answer for what some stupid Bhakth says.

Same way you don't have to answer for what some Muslim might have said.

More than BJP, bhakths, the current environment....the thing I am worried about most is the ADVICE that KKWC gave.

Maybe he's emotional but that's the WORST piece of advice one can give to Indian Muslims.

You see, BJP wants people to fight. They want Muslims to take up arms. They want it all to happen so they can turn the tide and get all the fence sitting Hindus on their side and retaliate HARDER which will eventually burn India to the ground.

Just take a look at the TWEET above (featuring Sambit Patra).

If India was ALREADY at the point of no return, so many Hindus wouldn't have saved Muslims.

There is a massive mess but we will clean it up. And down the road, we will eventually put in TRULY secular laws and forge an even stronger national identity (something which I have talked about for years).

Right now the way forward is to talk, expose and show up the government for what it is.

We gotta bust all these tactics, deflections, gas lighting which they are doing.

Acknowledge the faults if there are any (these anti social elements on our side are our WORST enemy).

Will take time.

Won't be easy.

But we will come out of this mess and usher into a better future.

India as a concept has LASTED MILLENIAS (even if technically it wasn't one country) and it won't go down so easily.
 
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A common misconception I see a lot of people having:

Change your view or else XYZ will happen.

No.

It doesn't matter if you are a Hindu hater or Muslim hater or sickular or coward or anyone else.

If a mob comes and attacks your home, you are going to die anyway.

What matters is how we voice our opinion and root out the bad elements in our society no matter who it is.

Going from one extreme to another doesn't end in peace.
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]

Thank you SOO much for your posts yaar.

By the way, how do you feel getting called Jihadi by rabid Bhakths and being called selfish by certain Pakistanis?

Must be horrifying. :(

What are you supposed to do? Take up arms and fight the state?

Also what's this deal of taking comments by one and quoting others for it.

I don't have to answer for what some stupid Bhakth says.

Same way you don't have to answer for what some Muslim might have said.

More than BJP, bhakths, the current environment....the thing I am worried about most is the ADVICE that KKWC gave.

Maybe he's emotional but that's the WORST piece of advice one can give to Indian Muslims.

You see, BJP wants people to fight. They want Muslims to take up arms. They want it all to happen so they can turn the tide and get all the fence sitting Hindus on their side and retaliate HARDER which will eventually burn India to the ground.

Just take a look at the TWEET above (featuring Sambit Patra).

If India was ALREADY at the point of no return, so many Hindus wouldn't have saved Muslims.

There is a massive mess but we will clean it up. And down the road, we will eventually put in TRULY secular laws and forge an even stronger national identity (something which I have talked about for years).

Right now the way forward is to talk, expose and show up the government for what it is.

We gotta bust all these tactics, deflections, gas lighting which they are doing.

Acknowledge the faults if there are any (these anti social elements on our side are our WORST enemy).

Will take time.

Won't be easy.

But we will come out of this mess and usher into a better future.

India as a concept has LASTED MILLENIAS (even if technically it wasn't one country) and it won't go down so easily.

Noone said Kayaal is selfish. We are just amazed at her naivety that she couldn't see this earlier when all of us could after Modi was elected and everyone said from day one that he will start from Kashmir and then turn India into a breeding ground for bigots.

Its not selfish on her part but it is stupidly naive. If we elected Khadim Hussain tomorrow I will realise it right there and then what Pakistan will face.
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]

Thank you SOO much for your posts yaar.

By the way, how do you feel getting called Jihadi by rabid Bhakths and being called selfish by certain Pakistanis?

Must be horrifying. :(

What are you supposed to do? Take up arms and fight the state?

Also what's this deal of taking comments by one and quoting others for it.

I don't have to answer for what some stupid Bhakth says.

Same way you don't have to answer for what some Muslim might have said.

More than BJP, bhakths, the current environment....the thing I am worried about most is the ADVICE that KKWC gave.

Maybe he's emotional but that's the WORST piece of advice one can give to Indian Muslims.

You see, BJP wants people to fight. They want Muslims to take up arms. They want it all to happen so they can turn the tide and get all the fence sitting Hindus on their side and retaliate HARDER which will eventually burn India to the ground.

Just take a look at the TWEET above (featuring Sambit Patra).

If India was ALREADY at the point of no return, so many Hindus wouldn't have saved Muslims.

There is a massive mess but we will clean it up. And down the road, we will eventually put in TRULY secular laws and forge an even stronger national identity (something which I have talked about for years).

Right now the way forward is to talk, expose and show up the government for what it is.

We gotta bust all these tactics, deflections, gas lighting which they are doing.

Acknowledge the faults if there are any (these anti social elements on our side are our WORST enemy).

Will take time.

Won't be easy.

But we will come out of this mess and usher into a better future.

India as a concept has LASTED MILLENIAS (even if technically it wasn't one country) and it won't go down so easily.

Simple translation, significant increase in innocent deaths by the hands of elected radicalized politicians because I do not see this conflict subsiding.
 
Noone said Kayaal is selfish. We are just amazed at her naivety that she couldn't see this earlier when all of us could after Modi was elected and everyone said from day one that he will start from Kashmir and then turn India into a breeding ground for bigots.

Its not selfish on her part but it is stupidly naive. If we elected Khadim Hussain tomorrow I will realise it right there and then what Pakistan will face.

You said she was naive which is ok.

KKWC said her mentality is selfish (scroll up & see).

The reason why Indian Muslims felt things would be ok is because India as a nation has a lot of checks and balances.

They are aware of the threat (can't do anything about it anyway as these are elected representatives) but it's just a logical assumption that they won't be able to do whatever they want.

But Modi has been able to work within framework of Constitution and get stuff done.
 
Death is a reality. It is estimated that 19 people die each minute in India. Each death is a story of sorrow in itself. But getting killed is a different shock altogether. Getting killed in a communal riot breeds anger when it appears that the security agencies could have prevented the madness. And, it calls for fixing accountability before public memory fades to stop the chain of communal riots.

At least 38 people died in North East Delhi during three days of communal riots. Blame-game is on just like the probe as to what exactly triggered the communal clashes in which stones were pelted, petrol cans were hurled, shops and homes were burnt down, guns and knives were used to kill whoever came the rioters' way and bodies were dumped in drains and where not.

It has been reported that at least six alerts were sent to the Delhi Police, warning about possible communal violence on Sunday. It was the same Sunday when BJP leader Kapil Mishra called for a gathering at Maujpur - one of the most riot-hit localities in Delhi -- against the anti-CAA protesters, who had blocked road in the area.

The same day, Kapil Mishra had given a "three-day ultimatum" to the Delhi Police for clearing the road of anti-CAA protesters. But did his call for gathering led to communal violence is up for debate.

The question is if intelligence alerts were sent to the Delhi Police and even locals got information that something could happen, why were the preventive measures not taken?

There are some who claim that the locals had received information that some criminal elements were already planning to do "something big" during the visit of US President Donald Trump. This points to a planning behind Delhi riots, a deduction arrived at by Minister of State for Home Affairs G Kishan Reddy, who declared the riots to be "orchestrated" from his Hyderabad visit.

Union Home Minister Amit Shah differed from his junior minister and identified Delhi riots as "spontaneous" incident of communal clashes.

Police gather intelligence through their beat offices, local intelligence units and through police-public contact. Those defending Kapil Mishra argue that incendiary speeches were being delivered at anti-CAA protests. Anyway, Delhi had seen a string of hate speeches over the past two months. Every hate speech is a crime.

Irrespective of whether these riots in Delhi were spontaneous or orchestrated, why did the Delhi Police not take prompt action to pre-empt communal riots?

Why did the Delhi Police not take hate mongers in custody, at least in preventive detention given that there were alerts about possible communal disturbances?

Why did the Delhi Police delay in lodging FIRs?

The argument presented in the high court by both the police and the central government was that the time for lodging FIR in connection with hate speeches was not "conducive". Which law defines what is a "conducive" time for registering an FIR?

FIR is the basis for investigation. In several judgments, the courts have held that police cannot delay registering FIRs. Police suddenly swung into action on Wednesday. One newspaper quoted a police official as saying, "Upar se order aa gaye raat koab sab shaant hai" while explaining what brought the change in standard of policing.

This suggests that the Delhi Police personnel on ground did not have orders to act against the rioters. The question is: do Delhi Police personnel have to wait for orders from the above to perform regular policing tasks?

And, who gives order from "upar"?

The Delhi Police functions under the Union home ministry headed by Amit Shah. Where does this "upar" buck stop in the Delhi Police?

Riots were contained after National Security Adviser Ajit Doval took charge of the situation. He held meetings with senior officers and also with the police personnel on the ground. He visited the riot-hit areas of Delhi in the middle of the night and also on Wednesday when he assured riot survivors that police will do their job.

What NSA Doval did was the primary job of respective SHOs (Station House Officers) of the Delhi Police. The question is, why did Delhi Police officials not conduct flag-march on Sunday, when clashes were beginning, and early Monday, the day clashes turned into communal riots? Who is responsible for this lack of policing?

Role of the police is key in dealing riots, but this does not mean the civil administration can play numb. In Delhi, police is under the central government. The civil administration is under the Delhi government. The district magistrates and the civilian administration too have tools to pre-empt a riot.

Moreover, it is the district magistrate who has the power to call Army in riot-affected areas. If police did not seem to be effective in dealing with riots, why did district magistrate of the affected areas not write to the government seeking deployment of Army?

Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal's Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) won a thumping majority in the Delhi election this month only. The AAP has 62 MLAs including CM Kejriwal. His party members blamed Kapil Mishra for communal riots. Kapil Mishra is an ex-MLA from Karawal Nagar, one of the riot-affected areas. If an ex-MLA wields so much influence, winning MLAs must be more influential, particularly within two weeks of electoral victory.

What and who stopped the AAP MLAs from reaching out to people and bring situation under control soon after Kapil Mishra threatened to hit the streets in three days and "not listen to" Delhi Police thereafter?

And finally, when civil and police administration failed in saving the people of Delhi from gangs of rioters, the judiciary lent its ears. But why was the judge who came down heavily on the Delhi Police and the central government transferred the same night? True, that the Supreme Court collegium had recommended the transfer of Justice S Muralidhar from Delhi High Court on February 12. But the timing of his transfer order does raise doubts in the times when credibility of state agencies is facing a serious crisis.

The doubt deepens when the next bench agrees with the police's argument that time was not conducive for filing FIRs and gives the Delhi Police four weeks of time to register FIRs in hate speeches, fixing date for next hearing more than six weeks later.

https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...-for-fixing-accountability-1650848-2020-02-28

YEH LO.

Mainstream media article.

Your lovely India Today.

MOMENT OF TRUTH.

Should Amit Shah be punished or not?

Yes or no.

No deflections. No tactics. No blaming AAP (they are TRAITORS too).

Just let me know what's your response. Yes or no.

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]
 
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Well said by aunty jee

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">World is witnessing complete destruction of the biggest democracy at the hands of <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> & his gang of religious bigots.<br>The hatred & violence witnessed in Delhi is a replica of same RSS mindset that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ButcherOfGujrat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ButcherOfGujrat</a> has thrived upon throughout his political career <a href="https://t.co/LmszjeqdXQ">pic.twitter.com/LmszjeqdXQ</a></p>— Ali Haider Zaidi (@AliHZaidiPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliHZaidiPTI/status/1233117488709296128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Before any bhakht claims she is Pakistani, notice how she says sajish and not sazish (amongst other things). You won't find a single Pakistani substituting 'z' with 'j'.
 
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You said she was naive which is ok.

KKWC said her mentality is selfish (scroll up & see).

The reason why Indian Muslims felt things would be ok is because India as a nation has a lot of checks and balances.

They are aware of the threat (can't do anything about it anyway as these are elected representatives) but it's just a logical assumption that they won't be able to do whatever they want.

But Modi has been able to work within framework of Constitution and get stuff done.


I am selfish and naive too. Selfish in a way that never been vocal about Kashmiris, UP and Gujarat Muslims sufferings knowing that wrong has been done to them And naive in a way to understand the penetration of deep hatred between the communities in North India.
 
Just googled her name, she is a famous social activist in India.... Awkward moment for bhakhts when even their own compatriots are showing them their auqaat.
 
He is the one who is in charge of the BJP, Modi is too stupid to even be the PM's boot cleaner.

What is their to fear? To even write 'Muslims fear him' make no sense to me as a Muslim. We as Muslims only fear our Lord, the one who has the power to take and give.

200 million scared of the RSS clown brigades is funny. We in the UK are a smaller minority but when the likes of the EDL came to our towns, they went home with different faces. Its no coincidene they dont bother any more. Once you let cowardly bullies terrorrists to scare you, they will only do worse.

Its ok, dont worry about Kashmir, we dont need Indian Muslims, we as Pakistanis will one day Godwilling liberate this land because they are our family, our brothers and sisters even if they are not of the Indian Muslims.

I hope Im wrong. Sorry for any harsh words, may the Alimigthy keep you and your family safe. If not come to the UK. :)

Slightly different situation KK bro. When the EDL or their like come to your towns, they are walking through areas which are predominantly Pakistani, and the Pakistanis who live there are usually from fairly rough and ready backgrounds in Kashmir or Punjab so they aren't the type to turn the other cheek.

Indian Muslims seem to be of a different type, and to be fair, they are heavily outnumbered by the Hindus who have the police and state machinery on their side. The only Muslim majority state in India is Kashmir, and they had to post half a million troops there to subdue the population.
 
I am selfish and naive too. Selfish in a way that never been vocal about Kashmiris, UP and Gujarat Muslims sufferings knowing that wrong has been done to them And naive in a way to understand the penetration of deep hatred between the communities in North India.

Interesting.

Selfishness is a combination of both mindset and action. Actions can't be judged on the internet. Only mindset can.

Someone frothing in their mouth condemning stuff left, right and centre on a random platform doesn't reflect their selfishness or selflessness.

What matters is how we perceive things.

If you truly felt Gujarat 2002, Article 370 abrogation & endless lockdown were bad and you felt for the victims...then no you aren't selfish regardless of whether you post on PP or not.

If you were indifferent or thought it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't happen to you, then you have been selfish.

Only you will know the answer to that.
 
Interesting.

Selfishness is a combination of both mindset and action. Actions can't be judged on the internet. Only mindset can.

Someone frothing in their mouth condemning stuff left, right and centre on a random platform doesn't reflect their selfishness or selflessness.

What matters is how we perceive things.

If you truly felt Gujarat 2002, Article 370 abrogation & endless lockdown were bad and you felt for the victims...then no you aren't selfish regardless of whether you post on PP or not.

If you were indifferent or thought it's not a big deal as long as it doesn't happen to you, then you have been selfish.

Only you will know the answer to that.

Of course I felt really bad for them but never ventured on social media like now i am. I always HOPED things will get better but it never was.
 
Wow you're quoting newslaundry.

Did you read their piece on opindia from whom you posted a tweet? :)

I can post the entire book link if [MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] wants.

Everyone should read it.

Ambedkar was a very outspoken man, he minced no words.
 
Of course I felt really bad for them but never ventured on social media like now i am. I always HOPED things will get better but it never was.

As I thought so seeing your posting history for years.

That's why I found the term selfishness jarring.

Cos it implies if someone doesn't go out and fight in a particular manner, they are selfish.

An extension of it would be: KKWC is sitting cozy in some foreign land and not waging a war for the Muslims he so dearly cares about.

It's just pointless rhetoric. Anyone can be made to look selfish if we stretch it enough.

There are several levels of support.

First comes the internal support.

Next comes external support.

If you feel that time has come for external support (via social media, peaceful protests) then go ahead for it.

But no need to bow down and accept you are selfish just cos you didn't match certain standards.

We are all selfish at some level. Let's just focus on doing the best we can. :)
 
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But Allah is there seeing everything. Even if justice is not given to them in this world, they will be delivered on the day of Judgment. That’s the only hope left.:)

You can't say hope,it's our belief.
 
I have a sympathy for joshila bhai,I respect him,He is a good guy,
But the way he is posting it's making me not angry but sad.
I hope one day he will realise.
 
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