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[VIDEOS] Has Haris Rauf proved himself to be a worthy member of the Pakistan side?

He bottled it on his home ground why would you bowl 2 consecutive length & slower deliveries to a set Batter
 
I won't be harsh on him. I don't think any other top batsman could have hit that length for six straight down the ground. That was truly an ingenius shot. I have seen him do that many times once he reaches a certain rhythm. But never seen others do that. Same ball kept whizzing past the bat of Pandya. He couldn't even touch.
 
Credit has to go to Kohli for those back to back 6s especially the 1st one. In general Haris bowled brilliantly and is far from the reason why we lost today.
 
One of the reason Kohli absolutely dominated Mitchell JOhnson (4 centuries) in Australia right after Mitchell Johnson's terror series against England was he was one of the best batsmen against hard lengths. He can play unusual straight pull against that length. I am surprised he still got the same reflex. Neve wanted Kohli in the world T20 side. Happy to be surpised.
 
yes he got the two big wickets, but it was befitting that it was him who got smashed for match turning 2 sixes after all the BBL MCG not easy talk.
 
Sometimes full and straight is the simple answer, our pacers lost the plot in final 5 too many times.
 
yes he got the two big wickets, but it was befitting that it was him who got smashed for match turning 2 sixes after all the BBL MCG not easy talk.
 
MenInG said:
Haris Rauf - what can one say?

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Shades of Wasim Akram to Botham in the 2nd dismissal
 
jnaveen1980 said:
One of the reason Kohli absolutely dominated Mitchell JOhnson (4 centuries) in Australia right after Mitchell Johnson's terror series against England was he was one of the best batsmen against hard lengths. He can play unusual straight pull against that length. I am surprised he still got the same reflex. Neve wanted Kohli in the world T20 side. Happy to be surpised.
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I was against Kohli in the WC team too but just woke up to this shocker. I think it's time to cut the chord with Rahul. He's done. He should be done. Time to bring Pant in as opener and there is value even if he fails. Will give him experience. There is no way in heck Rahul can cope up with bowlers like Shaheen, Rauf and other pacers from top teams in PP overs.
 
Rauf did extremely well until he ran into a red hot Kohli. The 2 sixes gave India a sniff of victory and gave them confidence.
 
Best T20 bowler in the world, those 2 sixes by Kohli were out of this world, no blame on Rauf. For me he will always be a bigger threat than Shaheen because he can work in all phases of the game.

Shaheen was fantastic last year in Dubai but the 2 Asia Cup games in 2018, 2019 WC, today, hasn't troubled us. Great bowler nonetheless but feel in T20s Rauf is better.
 
Pandya has mercilessly smacked Rabada, Nortje, Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins, Boult, almost every top pacer. But in UAE as well as here he couldn't even connect when Rauf was bowling hard lengths outside off.
 
A fine spell but two horrific deliveries in it. He should have been saved towards the end, awful captaincy / tactics will haunt Pak, you need pressure in the final few overs
 
Why go to cutters on a fast wicket. Those two balls basically became straight medium pace. Poor choice of deliveries from a fantastic bowler.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Pandya has mercilessly smacked Rabada, Nortje, Hazlewood, Starc, Cummins, Boult, almost every top pacer. But in UAE as well as here he couldn't even connect when Rauf was bowling hard lengths outside off.
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India is hopefully done with Rauf in the tournament so there is no point discussing him any longer vis a vis India. We are more interested in his performance against the other teams.
 
Overbowled the slower ones today in last over ,no way Kohli could have smacked two sixes had he bowled the fast full ones but nevertheless a fantastic bowler. I hope he’ll learn and become even better
 
Gun bowler. Hard luck, wish he tried yorkers in the last over.
 
The decision to choose the right ball to bowl at the right time in the crucial penultimate overs is very vital and understated in T20 Cricket. Only Kohli could have played the shots he did to Raufs changes of pace, Rauf has proven to be difficult to blast away the whole year against quality opposition the whole year.
 
Pakistani bowlers need to realize that these changes of pace are mostly effective in the subcontinent. You can't bowl more than 1 in conditions where the ball comes on to the bat easily.
 
Savak said:
Pakistani bowlers need to realize that these changes of pace are mostly effective in the subcontinent. You can't bowl more than 1 in conditions where the ball comes on to the bat easily.
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Yes these slower ones at length sit up nicely for hitting in Australia with no grip in the pitch and true bounce.
 
Overall he bowled really well, he is allowed to bowl few bad balls,and the 6s were not necessarily bad balls, just Kohli was superb in second half of his inning once settled. He could had tried some yorkers in his last spell.
 
Unlucky day for him bowled absolutely brilliantly for 22 balls unfortunately last two balls where faced by a red hot kohli who played great shots.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Best T20 bowler in the world, those 2 sixes by Kohli were out of this world, no blame on Rauf. For me he will always be a bigger threat than Shaheen because he can work in all phases of the game.

Shaheen was fantastic last year in Dubai but the 2 Asia Cup games in 2018, 2019 WC, today, hasn't troubled us. Great bowler nonetheless but feel in T20s Rauf is better.
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Ustaad. There’s no comparison between Shaheen and Rauf even in T20s. Shaheen playing after 2.5 months with long layoff and clearly not in rythm just yet. He was bowling low 130s today when he usually bowls 145+. At his best, he would have been a handful again.
 
How do you mitigate them ***** though?. He premeditated a clip to cow corner. The one down the ground was just pure class
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The brilliant Haris Rauf in T20Is this year:<br><br>Matches 18<br>Overs 66.1<br>Runs conceded 508<br>Wickets 26<br>Economy rate 7.67<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20worldcup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20worldcup</a>    <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvZIM?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvZIM</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1585612491043868672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Took two big wickets of Rohit and Sky. Time to acknowledge 'The Speed Chief'. :inti
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I have given him a new name: The Speed Chief. :inti

Disclaimer Note for those who have comprehension issues: I am not hyping him or calling him the greatest fast bowler ever. I am calling him the speed chief because he bowls fast. :akhtar
 
Cleans up another one Haris!

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Great to see this sort of sporting spirit

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MenInG said:
Great to see this sort of sporting spirit

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still fronted up for the Dutch team breakfast!<br><br>All the best, Bas de Leede &#55358;&#56801; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/xpF9Lxu4pT">pic.twitter.com/xpF9Lxu4pT</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1586957191839305728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Haris Rauf seems to be the most improved bowler in recent times. Yes, he used to leak a lot of runs some time back but now he is using the slower ball effectively to decieve the batsmen. Yes, he leaked runs in the 19th over of 1 INd-PAK matches recently but any bowler can have off days. He seems to be consistently doing well in death overs including winning a match against England in teh recently concluded Pak-Eng series.
 
His purple patch is over. Bottled it against Kohli and now single-handedly bottled it against SA.
 
Form is temporary, lack of class is permanent.

He is a right handed Wahab but in his and his delusional fans’ minds, he is the second coming of Akhtar.

He got carted around left, right and center for 2 years and then decided to morph into Sohail Tanvir by relying on cutters.

However, that drama also didn’t last long and he lost the plot after Kohli humiliated him at the MCG.
 
Another pathetic display after being on the wrong side of history for that immortal stuff by Kohli
 
He is no Shaheen Shah Afridi even after a break. Merely alternating between fast ball and slow ball is not sustainable. Movement, precise yorkers, surprise bouncers, deceptive slower ones lot more required to stay less predictable.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] can you enlighten us in this thread please?
Long time we haven't red your views here.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Still fronted up for the Dutch team breakfast!<br><br>All the best, Bas de Leede �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/T20WorldCup?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#T20WorldCup</a> <a href="https://t.co/xpF9Lxu4pT">pic.twitter.com/xpF9Lxu4pT</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1586957191839305728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Felt really bad for this. He’s such a masoom looking fellow. Glad he got the dub for his team in his final over in a historic victory Vs SA. Was part of the reason why his team went out with a bang. Well played lad.

On topic, people underrate Rauf’s performance vs India just due to that final over. His first ball to Kohli wasn’t a bad ball, it was just an insane shot, and sapped him of his confidence that he bowled a poor ball after. He needs to be mentally stronger, but he will get mentally stronger. This was his first proper game at the big stage after being at his first real peak performance wise. He will come good in tournaments iA.

Took SKY out as well as Rohit with great bowling. He needs to bank more on his strengths than being over dependent on slower ones all the time.
 
Mobashir said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] can you enlighten us in this thread please?
Long time we haven't red your views here.
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Destroyed by Virat Kohli. What more needs to be said? It is all downhill from here after he and his fans were brought back to earth.
 
Mamoon said:
Destroyed by Virat Kohli. What more needs to be said? It is all downhill from here after he and his fans were brought back to earth.
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You posted this with the help of every portion of your 153 IQ?

Surely it was downhill in the final?
 
Mobashir said:
You posted this with the help of every portion of your 153 IQ?

Surely it was downhill in the final?
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Rauf had zero impact in this World Cup.

Pakistan’s best bowler was Shaheen as usual who was not even fit. Played the entire tournament through injury.

Shaheen once again showed why he is the leader of the attack and the only world class pacer in the country. The rest, Rauf, Naseem etc., are all pretenders.
 
Mamoon said:
Rauf had zero impact in this World Cup.

Pakistan’s best bowler was Shaheen as usual who was not even fit. Played the entire tournament through injury.

Shaheen once again showed why he is the leader of the attack and the only world class pacer in the country. The rest, Rauf, Naseem etc., are all pretenders.
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4 overs 23 for 2 in the final with Buttler's wicket is zero impact.

Off course you are right, Bhuv has done better against England in the semi final.
 
Mamoon said:
Destroyed by Virat Kohli. What more needs to be said? It is all downhill from here after he and his fans were brought back to earth.
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England destroyed India.England score 170-0.Kohli played well but didn’t destroy him.The match was very close.Had Pakistan played 4 seamers then it would have won.
 
Mobashir said:
4 overs 23 for 2 in the final with Buttler's wicket is zero impact.

Off course you are right, Bhuv has done better against England in the semi final.
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And Curran took 3 for 12.

Rauf came into the World Cup as the so-called best T20 bowler in the world. His fans wouldn’t stop talking.

He left the World Cup with as many wickets as someone like Pandya, who apparently is a terrible bowler. Even Arshdeep took more wickets than Rauf.

Rauf was out bowled by several bowlers including his own teammate Shaheen who was injured from ball one. Even Wasim who played less matches than Rauf took as many wickets as he did so yes, Rauf had zero impact.

We hear a lot about how Pakistan has the best bowling bla bla, but they got out bowled by India, Zimbabwe and England when they competed with each other. So much for having the best bowling.

Speaking of Bhuvi, he outclassed Rauf in the Pakistan vs India match. Pakistan batsmen were clueless against him while Rauf was busy getting humiliated by Kohli and couldn’t win Pakistan the game even though the equation was in his favor.
 
Fenrir said:
England destroyed India.England score 170-0.Kohli played well but didn’t destroy him.The match was very close.Had Pakistan played 4 seamers then it would have won.
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England destroyed India but why are Pakistani fans celebrating now? Pakistan lost to both England and India.

Pakistan would have lost to India whether they played 4 or 40 seamers. Kohli has a psychological impact on Pakistan.

Even when Pakistan beat India (World Cup 2021, Asia Cup) he still scored.

Whether Pakistan wins or loses, whether it rains or the sun shines, there will be one constant: Pakistani bowlers will bow down to the king.
 
Mamoon said:
England destroyed India but why are Pakistani fans celebrating now? Pakistan lost to both England and India.

Pakistan would have lost to India whether they played 4 or 40 seamers. Kohli has a psychological impact on Pakistan.

Even when Pakistan beat India (World Cup 2021, Asia Cup) he still scored.

Whether Pakistan wins or loses, whether it rains or the sun shines, there will be one constant: Pakistani bowlers will bow down to the king.
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The mental gymnastics from captain credibility here are something else.

If his performances were actually viewed by somebody with even a semblance of objectivity, there wouldn’t be any debate.

Also Mamoon, the earth isn’t actually flat.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
The mental gymnastics from captain credibility here are something else.

If his performances were actually viewed by somebody with even a semblance of objectivity, there wouldn’t be any debate.

Also Mamoon, the earth isn’t actually flat.
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I wouldn't bother arguing.

Let's concentrate on Haris and his improvements.
 
MenInG said:
I wouldn't bother arguing.

Let's concentrate on Haris and his improvements.
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Fair enough.

When looking at Haris’s performances, we frequently forget about one big factor.

This lad has not come through the system. He hasn’t been through age group cricket, where basics such as warm up/ warm down exercises, time keeping, team work and basic nutrition and fitness habits are bedded in.

He wasn’t consistently playing any type of professional hard ball cricket until only 5 years ago(!!).

Despite this late late late start, he’s incredibly managed to not just play at this level, but become one of the best bowlers in the world at the highest level.

We all remember how shoddy he used to be in the field initially. Now he’s one of the most reliable fielders in the team.

Pakistan fans love Haris, not because of the phassst bowling. Or the aggression. Or the celebrations.

We love him, because he’s a role model for what one can do when they dedicate themselves to become the best version of themselves.

Allah bless him, inshAllah I hope he plays for Pakistan for a long time, and is incredibly successful throughout his career.
 
Rauf bowled well his run rate of less than 7 and getting okay number of wickets is not to bad but I was expecting more wickets.
 
Mamoon said:
England destroyed India but why are Pakistani fans celebrating now? Pakistan lost to both England and India.

Pakistan would have lost to India whether they played 4 or 40 seamers. Kohli has a psychological impact on Pakistan.

Even when Pakistan beat India (World Cup 2021, Asia Cup) he still scored.

Whether Pakistan wins or loses, whether it rains or the sun shines, there will be one constant: Pakistani bowlers will bow down to the king.
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If the match isn't a champions trophy final.
 
I think this guy has shown huge improvement and mental toughness especially given his introduction to cricket.

I think people forget that he had no formal junior level cricket and was basically spotted at a talent camp.
 
Props to Shaun Tait as well I must say. There has been a drastic improvement in Haris Rauf ever since he came on as coach. (Naseem Shah too even though this thread isn't about him.) He was able to make them more disciplined while maintaining pace.

I think Rauf slightly underperformed in the recent T20 given his form in the ENG and NZ series prior. Gave away some loose balls at crucial times. But he is definitely very head strong. Would be interesting to see him in longer formats. If he learns to reverse, I think he would be extremely deadly
 
Mamoon said:
And Curran took 3 for 12.

Rauf came into the World Cup as the so-called best T20 bowler in the world. His fans wouldn’t stop talking.

He left the World Cup with as many wickets as someone like Pandya, who apparently is a terrible bowler. Even Arshdeep took more wickets than Rauf.

Rauf was out bowled by several bowlers including his own teammate Shaheen who was injured from ball one. Even Wasim who played less matches than Rauf took as many wickets as he did so yes, Rauf had zero impact.

We hear a lot about how Pakistan has the best bowling bla bla, but they got out bowled by India, Zimbabwe and England when they competed with each other. So much for having the best bowling.

Speaking of Bhuvi, he outclassed Rauf in the Pakistan vs India match. Pakistan batsmen were clueless against him while Rauf was busy getting humiliated by Kohli and couldn’t win Pakistan the game even though the equation was in his favor.
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So your expectations for him are so high. Anything less than the best bowler in the world isn't good enough for you?

And would you use the same logic comparing Rashid Khan's 3/4 wickets to Shadab eleven wickets?
 
It appears that I will have the last laugh as usual.

The Rauf drama is coming to an end. He is a Wahab clone.

He had a purple patch in T20s where the batsmen were unable to read his slower ones but that gimmick is done.

Also, getting humiliated by Kohli in front of 100k crowd on the grand stage with billions of people watching shattered his confidence.

He will be out of the picture within 2 years. Mark my words.
 
Mamoon said:
It appears that I will have the last laugh as usual.

The Rauf drama is coming to an end. He is a Wahab clone.

He had a purple patch in T20s where the batsmen were unable to read his slower ones but that gimmick is done.

Also, getting humiliated by Kohli in front of 100k crowd on the grand stage with billions of people watching shattered his confidence.

He will be out of the picture within 2 years. Mark my words.
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Wahab had the fitness to play 27 tests and 136 FC matches
 
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This is extreme baigharati [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION].
The fact that babar didn't go to him at the end makes it seem like something was amiss.
Maybe a niggle or something
 
The longer the format the more Rauf seems to struggle.

He does well in t20 when batsmen are forced to go head on against his pace and bounce but anything longer and they can wait for a nice freebie from him.

Swing and seam appear to be negligible and this is essential in ODI cricket.

I think his place in the WC XI is under threat from Mohammad Wasim.
 
Haris performance this series against NZ. 1 wicket for 142. Going to further increase the criticism of him being only a t20 bowler.
 
This is what happens when you start thinking you are a superstar

He also tagged along with his buddy with the #sochnaBhiManaHai trend

Focus on your cricket mate! You are a star one day, and a nobody the very next day in this game
 
Abdullah said:
This is extreme baigharati [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION].
The fact that babar didn't go to him at the end makes it seem like something was amiss.
Maybe a niggle or something
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He is a finished bowler. He is officially 29, which means he is 32-33 in reality. The injuries will keep piling up as he gets older & the pace will drop.

It was funny to see him bowl in mid 130s in this series. Looked as threatening as a water gun.

He has 12-18 months left in the tank. I don’t think he has the juice anymore & Pakistan has witnessed his best already.

Accept it & move on.
 
hitthestump said:
The longer the format the more Rauf seems to struggle.

He does well in t20 when batsmen are forced to go head on against his pace and bounce but anything longer and they can wait for a nice freebie from him.

Swing and seam appear to be negligible and this is essential in ODI cricket.

I think his place in the WC XI is under threat from Mohammad Wasim.
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he is a tape ball bowler so expected. he should stick to T20s and leagues around the world.
 
Line lengths were messed up. In ODIs he needs to bowl in the same channel he bowled to Rohit, SKY and Butler in world cup and got them out. Also the low bounce on the pitch didn't help.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a finished bowler. He is officially 29, which means he is 32-33 in reality. The injuries will keep piling up as he gets older & the pace will drop.

It was funny to see him bowl in mid 130s in this series. Looked as threatening as a water gun.

He has 12-18 months left in the tank. I don’t think he has the juice anymore & Pakistan has witnessed his best already.

Accept it & move on.
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You are a lost cause.
There is a world cup in 9 months. No time to move on at all.
Just need to manage people so they fully fit and are peaking on time.
We already have a problem with bowling beyond our first choice and lower order batting.
This guy plays the WC.
Messing around and putting him in tests is the stupid thing we did.
 
Abdullah said:
You are a lost cause.
There is a world cup in 9 months. No time to move on at all.
Just need to manage people so they fully fit and are peaking on time.
We already have a problem with bowling beyond our first choice and lower order batting.
This guy plays the WC.
Messing around and putting him in tests is the stupid thing we did.
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You misunderstood.

I didn’t say move on from him as in drop him from the squad. I said move on from the argument that he is struggling because he is carrying a niggle.

The reality is that Pakistan has already seen the best of Rauf & it is all downhill from here. His best was not very good either. He gets a lot of hype but the reality is that he is nothing more than a right-handed Wahab.
 
Mamoon said:
You misunderstood.

I didn’t say move on from him as in drop him from the squad. I said move on from the argument that he is struggling because he is carrying a niggle.

The reality is that Pakistan has already seen the best of Rauf & it is all downhill from here. His best was not very good either. He gets a lot of hype but the reality is that he is nothing more than a right-handed Wahab.
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Wahab at least won us Test's v England in England and UAE. Rauf has won us nothing. I'd take Wahab anyday he was a clutch fielder and his batting was better than any of our current tail.
 
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