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[VIDEOS] Has Haris Rauf proved himself to be a worthy member of the Pakistan side?

Extreme Pace said:
As a Haris Rauf hater he has bowled brilliantly today, maybe Vernon Philander did some good work with him or maybe just a one off. Hopefully it lasts.
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The slower ball was very good I haven't seen him bowl that many slower balls before.his pace was + 90mph
 
The best I have seen him bowl.first two overs were over 90mph with one bowl at 95.Then in the next two overs he was bowling slower balls and none of the batter couldn't pick him.warrior
 
He has developed a slower ball, and can bowl 92+ mph. Just needs to remain consistent in his line and length, one more good performance and he will become world class level.
 
He kept it simple.

Bowl fast and straight with the occasional change of pace.

His biggest problem and I mentioned this to Philander is when he tries to be too clever and try too many different things.
 
Saj said:
He kept it simple.

Bowl fast and straight with the occasional change of pace.

His biggest problem and I mentioned this to Philander is when he tries to be too clever and try too many different things.
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He needs to hit the good length at pace and then throw the occasional one full to get the batsman driving. His weakness is those terrible short balls that reach belly button height and angle towards leg, it's what Botham would describe as a buffet balls.
To left handers his ball has to hit off stump because any width at his pace, is a free hit
 
Saj said:
He kept it simple.

Bowl fast and straight with the occasional change of pace.

His biggest problem and I mentioned this to Philander is when he tries to be too clever and try too many different things.
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Saj I just loved the intensity with which he was running to bowl from his very first over. It seems like Philander has sorted out his run up and his brain. His body looks in better shape as well.
 
should have booted out Waqar long ago.
man just collected a paycheck for a decade without doing anything.
 
Fluke performance. Form is temporary but lack of class is permanent.

Tape ball bowlers like him don’t belong in international cricket. They are match-losers.

He is 28 and had only 3 FC matches under his belt. It is a joke.

Pakistan needs to find a couple of proper bowlers like Shaheen and move on from rock throwers like him.
 
Mamoon said:
Fluke performance. Form is temporary but lack of class is permanent.

Tape ball bowlers like him don’t belong in international cricket. They are match-losers.

He is 28 and had only 3 FC matches under his belt. It is a joke.

Pakistan needs to find a couple of proper bowlers like Shaheen and move on from rock throwers like him.
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Oh yeah, what did the proper bowler Hassan Ali do on the day? And What did Shami do for India?
 
Rana said:
Oh yeah, what did the proper bowler Hassan Ali do on the day? And What did Shami do for India?
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Hassan Ali is overrated but still a better bowler than Rauf. At least he is a proper bowler.

All Indian bowlers had an off-day. Rauf cannot even dream of having the international career Shami has had.
 
Mamoon said:
Hassan Ali is overrated but still a better bowler than Rauf. At least he is a proper bowler.

All Indian bowlers had an off-day. Rauf cannot even dream of having the international career Shami has had.
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All that matters is the performance on the day of the big match. Do you honestly think 10 years from now, anyone will care if Rauf got launched for 200m sixes by Livingstone or will they applaud him for his performance against India in the historic game that ended the streak?
 
Rana said:
All that matters is the performance on the day of the big match. Do you honestly think 10 years from now, anyone will care if Rauf got launched for 200m sixes by Livingstone or will they applaud him for his performance against India in the historic game that ended the streak?
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If 10 years on, people still talk about Rauf’s 1 wicket spell against India in a WT20 match, it will mean that he will achieve nothing in his career, which won’t be surprising to be honest.
 
Mamoon said:
If 10 years on, people still talk about Rauf’s 1 wicket spell against India in a WT20 match, it will mean that he will achieve nothing in his career, which won’t be surprising to be honest.
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Rauf took 1 wicket in this game

More than Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi.

Let that sink in
 
Rana said:
Rauf took 1 wicket in this game

More than Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi.

Let that sink in
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Yes, and he can play for 30 years and he won’t scale the achievements of those Indian players. Let that sink in as well.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, and he can play for 30 years and he won’t scale the achievements of those Indian players. Let that sink in as well.
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Because he will never ever play as much as they do. India play 3 times more than Pakistan do, so it is not really possible for him to match their achievements anyways. The point is, you have been on his case for whatever reason but on the biggest game of his life, he turned up and delivered. He isn’t better than Bumrah etc but he did the job for his country on the day, whereas these big names couldn’t.

Everything you said about him has just exposed how distant you are from the game, the abilities of Pakistani cricketers etc. Take a break, reassess, find a new target to put down and return stronger
 
Saw him bowl in the t20 national cup. He bowled much better. Using his outswinger more and keeping it simple.

With regards to his age well it's only t20 and he can play for a while yet.

We do need some younger bowlers to step up now. Afridi can't be burdened to the hilt as he will burn out..

It was interesting to hear waqars views on Husnayn and his problems.

We need to continue to work on our restructuring of Lower level cricket.

Finally in shariah be prepared country coz he might go for a few.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, and he can play for 30 years and he won’t scale the achievements of those Indian players. Let that sink in as well.
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But he outbowled them with pure pace. Haris has talent and when he realises what he has, he could be a regular match winner.
 
Mamoon said:
If 10 years on, people still talk about Rauf’s 1 wicket spell against India in a WT20 match, it will mean that he will achieve nothing in his career, which won’t be surprising to be honest.
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In 10 years time we will still be hearing your bitterness
 
Mamoon said:
Fluke performance. Form is temporary but lack of class is permanent.

Tape ball bowlers like him don’t belong in international cricket. They are match-losers.

He is 28 and had only 3 FC matches under his belt. It is a joke.

Pakistan needs to find a couple of proper bowlers like Shaheen and move on from rock throwers like him.
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Fluke na ho jaye kahin fluke na ho jaye
 
honestly surpised me, i didnt think he had it in him.

I hope its not a bright patch, always good to be proven wrong by players you doubt
 
4-22 to follow up his fluke performance against India according to [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Pakistan have unearthed another star today!
 
Looks a much more refined bowler compared to 3 months ago.

Credit must go to Philander I'd imagine considering nothing else has really changed
 
Mamoon said:
Fluke performance. Form is temporary but lack of class is permanent.

Tape ball bowlers like him don’t belong in international cricket. They are match-losers.

He is 28 and had only 3 FC matches under his belt. It is a joke.

Pakistan needs to find a couple of proper bowlers like Shaheen and move on from rock throwers like him.
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Can you fluke twice?
Whether you rate him or not he’s bowled really well in this World Cup. Maybe he’s a world cup specialist 🤣
 
Abdurmirr said:
Looks a much more refined bowler compared to 3 months ago.

Credit must go to Philander I'd imagine considering nothing else has really changed
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Give credit to Rauf himself. He must have been practicing hard for the past few months in order to prepare for this world cup. I don't think Philander can come in and change things in as little as few days.
 
Caved12 said:
Give credit to Rauf himself. He must have been practicing hard for the past few months in order to prepare for this world cup. I don't think Philander can come in and change things in as little as few days.
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Better than having toxic Waqar in your ear all the time
 
Rana said:
Better than having toxic Waqar in your ear all the time
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No doubt about that. I like Philander and think that he will do well with our team if we give him a long rope. I think he is going to be a very good bowling coach.
 
Another idiotic analysis by Mamoon who now has to think of another way to bash Harris who may have won us the match today.
 
Haris Rauf's figures of 4-22 are the best by a Pakistan bowler in the men's T20 World Cup since Saeed Ajmal took 4-19 against Ireland in 2009.

Today's figures of 4-22 are Haris Rauf's best bowling figures for Pakistan

Hayden yesterday regarding Haris - "Young Haris Rauf is an exciting prospect - just cut him lose with some great pace! That's the strength of Pakistan cricket in the field"
 
I was always against Rauf playing in ODI or Tests.

He is a good T20 bowler with good variations. Seems like he is maturing a bit. Good signs.
 
Haris Rauf - Player of the Match speaking after the game:

I am happy with the performance, thanks to the team, the fielding unit, the support staff and the fans for all the support they've given us. There's competition in the bowling unit, we talk with each other, assess the conditions and we do get confidence from each other. The wicket of Guptill in the powerplay was the best amongst the four wickets. Thankful to everyone, keep supporting us right through.
 
So much for the "street bowler". Bowled a truly incredible spell and the way he mixed up 145+ thunderbolts with 127kph slower balls while maintaining his shape and accuracy was arguably the most remarkable thing about the spell.

This is why you shouldn't write off players just by looking at them once.

And this is why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] should fill the 'Haris Rauf Apology Form' that is making the rounds on social media.
 
Rana said:
Better than having toxic Waqar in your ear all the time
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What makes you think Waqar didn't help Rauf and help in making him a better bowler? Waqar worked with Rauf from when he was selected for Pak to a month ago. Don't you think its a little foolish to not give Waqar any credit for Rauf's rise and and steady improvement?
 
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I said through and through that despite his flaws, he had a number of things going in his favor. Such as the fact that he had the second best T20I ER in the world at the death as well as one of the best strike-rates in the world, something evident by the fact that no one had taken more T20 wickets than him from 2020-21.

His biggest problem was that he simply wasn't using his brain at crucial points of the match which was costing the team and damaging his figures.

Which is why it has been so great to see how well he has bowled in the last two matches. He has genuinely improved as a bowler. And the way he has used his pace has been the best thing about it.

Couldn't be happier for him. Pakistan needed desperately needed a bowler like him.
 
I'm pleasantly surprised at how well he has done in these first two games. Previously he would lose his head and bowl a boundary ball or two an over. He seems to be engaging his brain a bit more, which is good to see. I like the fact that he is changing it up with slower balls, which he didn't do a lot of before this tournament from when I've seen him. He used the slower ball intelligently against India and NZ.

I'm hoping for more of the same for the remainder of the tournament.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

damn bro - who hurt you? Not here to defend Rauf or Hasan but being hypercritical all the time can be counter productive. In the past you have made some great (and valid) points about us needing to improve and it looks like the team is now playing better cricket these days - why not enjoy good performances and criticize poor ones?
 
looks like some of the players have started using their brain such as Haris and Asif. I wonder if those consultants have anything to do with this.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
What makes you think Waqar didn't help Rauf and help in making him a better bowler? Waqar worked with Rauf from when he was selected for Pak to a month ago. Don't you think its a little foolish to not give Waqar any credit for Rauf's rise and and steady improvement?
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Harris Rauf was a much better bowler before his Pakistan team debut in T20 and ODI. Whatever time he spent under Misbah and Waqar did not show signs of improvement. In fact his pace dropped as well. He came into the Pakistan on the back of good performances for Melbourne and Qalandars, plus his raw ability to bowl 150-155, serious pace which Pakistan were lacking with Shaheen, Hassan and Amir. As soon as he started bowling for pakistan, I remember vividly how his pace dropped from 91-93 into the 87-90s. Where have we also seen the drop in pace case, that too under Waqar’s coaching? If you remember, Naseem Shah also continued to deteriorate in pace after his first Test until the point when he was bowling 84-85mph in New Zealand.

Waqar Younis may have a good intention, but he isn’t a very good coach when it comes to developing talent.
 
I like how [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] conveniently just blazes into oblivion when confronted about his poor predictions. I believe he is not having a nice worldcup so far
 
Rana said:
Harris Rauf was a much better bowler before his Pakistan team debut in T20 and ODI. Whatever time he spent under Misbah and Waqar did not show signs of improvement. In fact his pace dropped as well. He came into the Pakistan on the back of good performances for Melbourne and Qalandars, plus his raw ability to bowl 150-155, serious pace which Pakistan were lacking with Shaheen, Hassan and Amir. As soon as he started bowling for pakistan, I remember vividly how his pace dropped from 91-93 into the 87-90s. Where have we also seen the drop in pace case, that too under Waqar’s coaching? If you remember, Naseem Shah also continued to deteriorate in pace after his first Test until the point when he was bowling 84-85mph in New Zealand.

Waqar Younis may have a good intention, but he isn’t a very good coach when it comes to developing talent.
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Sorry but you are wrong.

I've seen Haris bowl from his debut for Qalandars up till now.

No way he was a better bowler. If anything, he had serious flaws. And no way he bowling with so much consistency and guile. The one over where he bowled 3 145kphs thunderbolts and 3 balls in the 120s was definitely something I have never seen from him before.

Say what you will about Waqar but he was one of the greatest fast-bowlers to ever play the game. He understands fast-bowling better than you or I ever could. And if you asked Haris Rauf, I'm sure he will speak glowingly of the help Waqar has provided him in becoming a better bowler.
 
Faizan001 said:
I like how [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] conveniently just blazes into oblivion when confronted about his poor predictions. I believe he is not having a nice worldcup so far
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So many theories of Mamoon debunked in just a space of 2 days:

1. Pakistani players cannot compete in the IPL

2. Indian batting has proved how poor Pakistan are in the UAE

3. Shadab Khan is a rubbish bowler

4. Harris Rauf is a rock thrower, street cricketer who cannot perform at this level

5. Asif Ali is not good enough for this level

6. Pakistan are a terrible team that will lose 9/10 times against the best teams

7. Pakistan has no talent whatsoever, we have two good players and the rest are just about average

Maybe I am missing some…
 
Rana said:
So many theories of Mamoon debunked in just a space of 2 days:

1. Pakistani players cannot compete in the IPL

2. Indian batting has proved how poor Pakistan are in the UAE

3. Shadab Khan is a rubbish bowler

4. Harris Rauf is a rock thrower, street cricketer who cannot perform at this level

5. Asif Ali is not good enough for this level

6. Pakistan are a terrible team that will lose 9/10 times against the best teams

7. Pakistan has no talent whatsoever, we have two good players and the rest are just about average

Maybe I am missing some…
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8 Hardik second best Allrounder after Ben Stokes

Poor guy got the mockers put on him, now he doesn't even bowl

Pandya in Tests and FC has 1 hundred and under 50 wickets but Raufs performances are a fluke because he started playing hardball cricket late...
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Sorry but you are wrong.

I've seen Haris bowl from his debut for Qalandars up till now.

No way he was a better bowler. If anything, he had serious flaws. And no way he bowling with so much consistency and guile. The one over where he bowled 3 145kphs thunderbolts and 3 balls in the 120s was definitely something I have never seen from him before.

Say what you will about Waqar but he was one of the greatest fast-bowlers to ever play the game. He understands fast-bowling better than you or I ever could. And if you asked Haris Rauf, I'm sure he will speak glowingly of the help Waqar has provided him in becoming a better bowler.
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Wrong about what? Did his pace drop or not? Did he not change his game plan by bowling a lot shorter instead of bowling fuller at the stumps?
 
Since waqar has left everyone seems to be getting better. Hopefully we never see him again in any coaching role.
 
Rana said:
Wrong about what? Did his pace drop or not? Did he not change his game plan by bowling a lot shorter instead of bowling fuller at the stumps?
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Bowling at 150 or even 160 is meaningless if you don't have control. Haris Rauf at the beginning of his career was a raw tearaway quick with zero control or consistency.

He was bowling both short and full before as well. But it was rubbish because there was no method to the madness nor any thinking behind when those balls were bowled.

I've seen him bowl in the last two games and not only is there consistency, control and thinking in his bowling but there were also a number of balls bowled at 150+. So your point of his pace dropping isn't exactly true either. And thing is you don't need to bowl at 150+ throughout. 147-149 is quick enough. And he's bowling atleast 3 balls at that pace every over.

I mean he's already one of the fastest bowlers in the world. What more do you want?
 
Kroll said:
Agreed, guy picked up monies for doing sweet FA.
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Waqar mentioned that Haris had a little change to his runup which affected his performance till he's gotten used to the new run up. We don't know how much of that is true even if that is then why fix something that was broke. Misbah and Waqar seem to be taking all the credit so far, for team selection and the performances of the likes of Haris and Asif Ali.

I've been busy eating a lot of humble pie, I thought Haris was going to lose us both of these matches but he's proved us all wrong. Long may it continue..
 
Mamoon said:
This Rauf drama will end in tears. Don’t complain later that I didn’t warn you.

Take him to IPL and he will regularly go for 12+ RPO, and we will see that spectacle in the WT20 where he will get smashed like no tomorrow.
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The spectacle has started and we are all seeing it but where are you? Not joining us to watch it?
 
Mamoon said:
Hassan Ali is overrated but still a better bowler than Rauf. At least he is a proper bowler.

All Indian bowlers had an off-day. Rauf cannot even dream of having the international career Shami has had.
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In tournaments like this you don't want to have big names or big career players, you just want the best XI to win the match.

Never Shami will be an as good T20I bowler as Haris Rauf. Shami is probably the worst T20 bowler playing the tournament from the top 10 sides.
 
gazza619 said:
Saj I just loved the intensity with which he was running to bowl from his very first over. It seems like Philander has sorted out his run up and his brain. His body looks in better shape as well.
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There is definitely a Philander effect visible in terms of tactica and planning plus Saqi since Waqar has resigned

The credit to persist with haris rizwan and Asif Ali should go to Misbah and waqar
 
Faizan001 said:
I like how [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] conveniently just blazes into oblivion when confronted about his poor predictions. I believe he is not having a nice worldcup so far
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He will come back as soon as Rauf has a bad game. Timing is everything for him.
 
Haris main strength is yorker but he is not being given the field to bowl it with confidence.
When u bring ur third man n fine leg up ur, when u do that the batsman is free to play lap shorts n even edges go to the boundary.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
So much for the "street bowler". Bowled a truly incredible spell and the way he mixed up 145+ thunderbolts with 127kph slower balls while maintaining his shape and accuracy was arguably the most remarkable thing about the spell.

This is why you shouldn't write off players just by looking at them once.

And this is why [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] should fill the 'Haris Rauf Apology Form' that is making the rounds on social media.
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I think his successful incorporation of the slower ball has made a massive difference. This is definitely something he's improved on, if he was doing it before, he was doing it badly. It's made his quicker ball twice as deadly as well, as now the batsman doesn't know what's coming.

I think the problem with [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is that he thinks it's more important to defend his opinion than it is to acknowledge improvement in a Pakistan player. I say that as someone who's had doubts about Rauf myself, but now I think we have to accept the selectors got it right.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] where did you go? You were all up in this thread previously!
 
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
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Amazing insight.

So the management have successfully got through into the mind of a street cricketer/rock thrower and turned him into a world class performer? Is that what you are saying? Who is currently the fastest bowler in this tournament? Care to share some insight into this too
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
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He is in the team to take wickets and not give many runs. So far he is doing it brilliantly. For the variations he has done it superbly, depending on the batsman he is bowling to.

He is playing T20's so far, he isn't necessary a great bowler material but as a T20 bowler he is fine for Pakistan. When, according to you, the best team has T20I bowlers like Mohammad Shami we are fine with Haris Rauf.


So now you have decided to analyse how T20 wickets come? Guptill's wicket was set on the previous ball witch was a toe crusher!
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
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You had to mix it up on that wicket. Even Shaheen was bowling slower balls and that's how he got his wicket. He deserves full credit for his performance yesterday and deserved to be man of the match.

But I agree with your view about Rauf in general. He still has a lot to prove. I fear he will get exposed on 180+ wickets.
 
topspin said:
You had to mix it up on that wicket. Even Shaheen was bowling slower balls and that's how he got his wicket. He deserves full credit for his performance yesterday and deserved to be man of the match.

But I agree with your view about Rauf in general. He still has a lot to prove. I fear he will get exposed on 180+ wickets.
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If that’s the case, just imagine how bad Hassan Ali will bowl on a 180+ wicket
 
Rana said:
If that’s the case, just imagine how bad Hassan Ali will bowl on a 180+ wicket
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I know Hassan Ali bats late down the order but believe me if it wasn't for his batting, he wouldn't even be in the squad.

His hitting ability and batting overall is underrated by the Pakistan team. He should certainly bat ahead of Shadab.
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
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Seriously this sums up your analysis. Him changing his pace suddenly from 150 to 130-135 kph on Sharjah track shows he has learnt and is more than capable of chocking batsman in the death overs.
 
topspin said:
You had to mix it up on that wicket. Even Shaheen was bowling slower balls and that's how he got his wicket. He deserves full credit for his performance yesterday and deserved to be man of the match.

But I agree with your view about Rauf in general. He still has a lot to prove. I fear he will get exposed on 180+ wickets.
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If the pitch is 180+ one what would be average figures for pacer on that pitch? 40-1? 45-2? maybe the best figures of a bowler would be 32-2. If Haris here ends up for 45-2. Would this mean he is exposed?
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t want to interrupt the bhangra but the fact that he is resorting to bowling 3-4 slower ones every over is not a good sign.

He was brought into the side as a speed demon and since he has failed in that role with flying colors and got smashed all over the park by nearly all teams, the team management is now molding him into a slow ball specialist.

I feel that it is only a matter of time before his slower ones are exposed as well. If you do not swing the new ball, you cannot be consistent.

We have seen that numerous times before. If Pakistani fans are excited over the prospect of him becoming a poor man’s Wahab, then so be it. Perhaps it is understandable because Pakistan is a small team now and it takes nothing for our fans to get excited and giddy.

He has also been quite lucky - I didn’t see many wicket taking deliveries. For example, the Guptill’s dismissal was a joke really.
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erm... did you even watch the match? His average speed (including all the slower deliveries) was over 140kph!
 
Have to hand it to Mamoon for the ability to move goal post each time he is proven wrong.
 
Whoever has worked with him behind the scenes should get credit and especially Rauf for his determination to control his bowling a lot more, it’s hard to praise Waqar though; a great player but a notorious failure as a coach and one of the biggest / most ignorant people in cricketing circles at the moment, the exchanges he had with Wahab not so long ago should have removed all doubt really.

I expected Rauf to pick up wickets but at the expense of a very high economy, his control has been the biggest surprise, lets see if he can maintain this, as it will be vital for Pakistan because Hassan leaks too many runs himself
 
topspin said:
I know Hassan Ali bats late down the order but believe me if it wasn't for his batting, he wouldn't even be in the squad.

His hitting ability and batting overall is underrated by the Pakistan team. He should certainly bat ahead of Shadab.
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Only if situation requires blind slogging. Otherwise Shadab is far better batsman.
 
I saw him at Headingley recently and he was very ordinary and I was wondering why he was in the team. However, his bowling against NZ was very sensible and devastating. If he can carry this forward then he will be a world-beater.
Lets wish him good luck.
 
Mamoon will not acknowledge the fact that Pakistan keeps producing express bowlers.There are several express bowlers waiting in the wings.PCB should hire a good bowling coach/consultant preferably from England or Australia to guide them and iron out any technical issues.
 
topspin said:
You had to mix it up on that wicket. Even Shaheen was bowling slower balls and that's how he got his wicket. He deserves full credit for his performance yesterday and deserved to be man of the match.

But I agree with your view about Rauf in general. He still has a lot to prove. I fear he will get exposed on 180+ wickets.
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To be fair, most bowlers will get exposed on 180+ wickets.
 
The change of Pace is almost Akhtaresque during the Pak vs England series

Imagine playing for the slower bowl and instead getting a toe crushing Yorker like Guptill
 
He was rightly criticised in past for being expensive, but he has been absolute class in WC so far. I hope he continues this form and make a statement of being one of the best right arm bowler for Pakistan after Umar Gull .
 
Before the start of the tournament Rauf had taken 28 wickets in 21 innings, that more than a wicket a match, which is exceptional in T20 metrics. And guess what, it was his only year in international T20s, so obviously he would improve on that already very stable bedrock. In fact, in 2021 alone he had take 2 or more wickets on 4 occasions and averaged less than 25 on 5 occasions, at times averaging less than 15 in a game. Those are signs of a good limited overs bowler.
 
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