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[VIDEOS] "I am happy that I got failures in my early stage. Now I know what standards I have to reach": Saim Ayub
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Saim Ayub's bowling has been a revelation and he is getting wickets as well. His batting form has been good as well. Definitely deserves a longer run.
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Saim has hit the most sixes in PSL 9 so far. He smashed 21 sixes in 11 innings.
Youngest Pakistanis to reach 100 T20 sixes
Saim Ayub - 21 years, 297 days
Haider Ali - 22 years, 259 days
Shadab Khan - 24 years, 30 days
Azam Khan - 24 years, 42 days
Youngest Pakistanis to reach 100 T20 sixes
Saim Ayub - 21 years, 297 days
Haider Ali - 22 years, 259 days
Shadab Khan - 24 years, 30 days
Azam Khan - 24 years, 42 days
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Other than Imad wasim we have found another new ball bowler Saim Ayub who can get u wickets with the new ball in Powerplays.
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His bowling was the surprise package of the tournament. It was a genius move by Babar, the best captain of the tournament.
I was very impressed with the way he managed his weak bowling resources.
I was very impressed with the way he managed his weak bowling resources.
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Saim Ayub while giving interview to Zalmi TV:
In the first innings of the Sydney test, I got out for zero. When I came to bat in the second innings all Australians were saying, "hoping for a couple" (expecting me to get out for zero again). When Starc passed by and bowled 1 or 2 balls to Abdullah Shafique, I said to him [Starc], "BRO, Why are you Bowling Slow in the 2nd innings? I think you are Tired." The next ball Abdullah was CLEAN BOWLED. Starc looked towards me and I turned my face the other way.
In the first innings of the Sydney test, I got out for zero. When I came to bat in the second innings all Australians were saying, "hoping for a couple" (expecting me to get out for zero again). When Starc passed by and bowled 1 or 2 balls to Abdullah Shafique, I said to him [Starc], "BRO, Why are you Bowling Slow in the 2nd innings? I think you are Tired." The next ball Abdullah was CLEAN BOWLED. Starc looked towards me and I turned my face the other way.
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But when will you reach these standards?
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He would need to curb his leg side hack until he is more settled. That shot is bringing his downfall.
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He should be fully backed alongside Abdullah Shafique to be our openers across all formats over the next few years.
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Saim: Bro why are you bowling so slow?
Starc after bowling Abdullah out: Ho gai tasali?
Saim: Yes sir
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That is the problem with most of our youngsters... they talk too much but never focus on their game to improve it.Saim: Bro why are you bowling so slow?
Starc after bowling Abdullah out: Ho gai tasali?
Saim: Yes sir
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Saim is such a joke to starc. One's an atg bowler who in 2015 was a literal nightmare to even Indian and South African greats and the other in the apex of his career is deciding if he should play the ball with his eyes closed or eyes open aka the no look shot.
Infact a burnt out end of the line starc that he has been reduced to now unfortunately is still better then our entire bowling unit in terms of pacers.
Sharam karo, a dead soon to be retired stark is still above young lads like abass afridi. He's not just above, he's an entire millennium above.
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Saim needs some more failures so his story can become enthralling like that of Chris Benoit, he needs to go down a few more times so he can rise from the ashes and have his WM 20 moment
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He may not get crushed by some randy orton
Did you not see how he got treated by Fakhar?
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No he hasn’t
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Am not convinced they will back him until then, if he doesn’t get a score against England, King Kukar and Molvi Saab will use that to rekindle their love story at the top
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Looks to be the case
I think Usman Khan should get his chance in the opening slot.
That's why I would hope they play Usman and pray that he performs.
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2 things.
A) Fakhar onsong is the greatest pakistani batsmen. No one comes close to him since the past 15 years, and that's a fact. Problem with falhar is he's inconsistent. He's a player who either is switched on or off. That's it. Switched on falhar will smash a 193 from an impossible position or bully new Zealand to the point that they can't even defend a drs run chase with 400 on the board.
No pakistani and certainly no saim ayub is ever coming close to that. Lol at saim ayub hitting a 100 in a final or ever hitting a 200 score. Saim isn't hitting a 200 even against Uganda.
B) Stark's golden years were 2014-2015 where he was unplayable. And current stark is > all pur bowlers deapite being a burnt corpse atm.
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Yes, but with Saim.
We need two dashers up front like most good teams. Not one dasher and one T20 opener fraud
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Better to bring fakhar at the opening slot along with saim... Usman can better perform at #4 position
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You should probs quote what amjid javed said so these guys can understand.
Saim isn't a hero by any means but he and usman khan aren't THAT BAD.
the problem is the mentality. It's clear as daylights babar is telling saim
" Bro you gotta go from ball 1, do it for me please, because I can't do it"
Theirs not really any support sadly at the other end. He doesn't have the luxury of finn Allen opening with Jim where he can take time and understand what he's doing wrong. It's clear his mindset is, Babar bhai wants me to attack and be the aggressor.
I disagree I think he is a good option at 4 he is left hander pluss he can play spinner as good as anyone.
Rizwan will open you have to be realistic and not live in dreamland.
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I am being realistic in wanting to go with the right strategy and not the dreamland Pakistan is feeding you guys
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Then why did you remind me of an in ings in test where fakhar bashed stark? What was the logic behind that?
I thought you showed me that to make a point as to why he should open when stark bowls to him assuming Pakistan makes it to super 8?
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Realistically none of our suggestions matter? Or will matter by that logic? Doesn't mean we can't argue why said realistic decision should not take place?
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In T20 cricket
You go BANG BANG right from the word go.
Not this pathetic strategy in which Pakistan are playing one aggressor and one consolidator like the year 1995/6 when the 15 over powerplay rule was introduced and you saw the likes of Jaysuriya emerge.
In 2024…you GO HARD all the way!
You go BANG BANG right from the word go.
Not this pathetic strategy in which Pakistan are playing one aggressor and one consolidator like the year 1995/6 when the 15 over powerplay rule was introduced and you saw the likes of Jaysuriya emerge.
In 2024…you GO HARD all the way!
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The right strategy doesn't mean a one size fits all approach. PCT is built differently from other teams and we have our own challenges to overcome. Just because others have openers averaging 30+ with strike rates of 150+ doesn't mean we have the same luxury. As they say in Punjabi - Pakki waekh ke kachi nahi dhai di
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Then every strategy is automatically the wrong strategy for Pakistan.
Because the sides with 30 averages and 150+ sr are consistently winning and will beat Pakistan 9 out of 10 times.
Against nz in jan Pakistan beat them only once because they collapsed, in the same way 2019 England lost one game against Sri Lanka. Collapses happen to all teams.
So the right strategy is to wait and pray to Allah that a team has an offday? How many times will thay happen? On a tour or a cup?
In tests ? Maybe you need to revisit that.
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Which game are you referring to? The one I recall is their close contest in test?
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No.
I will not allow you guys who are happy with it to live in peace. I will constantly remind you all that you are supporting cricket wrongdoing.
I will not allow you guys who are happy with it to live in peace. I will constantly remind you all that you are supporting cricket wrongdoing.
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Good point.
T20 World Cup 2021
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2021 t20 world cup is not prime stark?
Bro what's your point? I don't get the whole point of your argument?
What are your arguing?
The 3 main argument are
- Insong fakhar is the greatest Pakistani batter in the past 15 years superior to any onsong batter including fraud no 1.
- 2015 stark is am ATG bowler who's near impossible to play and is superior to even Bumrah (again 2014-2015 stark)
- current burnt put corpse stark is superior to every single pakistani pacer atm and it isnt even a contest?
So what's your point?
Starc in t20s is okay nothing special.
No you don't you play each ball on merit.
There will be moments when you come across top class bowlers who will bowl hostile stuff , how are you going go to bang bang quality bowling without looking like an idiot or throwing away your wicket.
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If you'd like to believe that sure. Facts say otherwise. Only 2 teams have a better h2h vs Pak and those are India and Eng. Everyone else we trump and we've never had any openers with 30 avg and 150+ strike rate. 9 out of 10 times lol where do you even get your numbers?
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It is a known fact sides play 2nd string for IPL and leagues while Pakistan shove their face with full strength 24/7
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Saim still has no idea what he is missing. He has set no standards yet that he should meet every game. He needs to come out of his dream and live in reality. Wake up before it is too late.
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Please tell me your amazing formula that made you determine that Babar who ducks behind kushdil shah in a super over will cone out and hit 6 4's in a super over.
What's the mathematical equation behind that
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Babar just proved that his ceiling is higher than even 6 4's in an over. He hit four 6's in the last match taking 25 in the over. This is a fact. Yet you still doubt his capabilities.
Lack of domestic cricket. It helps you develop your game in a relatively low pressure environment, discover your strengths and determine your scoring areas as batsman.
Needs to put in hard yards at domestic level. Learn from Rizwan he's a great example.
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Saim does play domestic cricket and has scored heavily in the president's trophy and national t20 as well. Is he just a domestic or a league bully? SO far, the answer to this question is yes.
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The thing is, you know for a fact that you're being disingenuous because you know full well what kph bowlers they were bowling and what a small pitch it was.
Congratulations babar has proven himself to be in the same league as asif Ali, what an achievement.
Infact their only 135kph bowler mark adair was the only one babar and rizwan couldn't play and have the lowest sr against.
I have seen babar play since 2016 and since 2022 he has
- Averaged amongst the lowest in 2022 Asia cup as a batter
- AVERAGED THE LOWEST out of any opener including minnows like Zimbabwe and Nedtherlands averaging 17, and had he not been dropped on 0, he'd had a record average of 10 aka being the lowest in any tournament history.
- He has been memed for Nepal E Azam in Asia cup 2023.
- He's been horrificly poor in world cup 2023 where 23 year old young buds like rachin were putting mr No 1 greatest batter in the qorld to shame.
- He then proceeded to have a hilarious test series against Australia, amd his current performances are a joke. Yes their an actual joke if he needs his catches to be dropped to perform against hue level bowlers lmao.
Infact his only series he actually did play against a full strength side since 2021 excluding tournaments is this year in January against NZ which he did well against tbf, but bang average as a no 3.
So yes I doubt a batter's capability when he fails so much, I can understand if the team was poor and babar was the only star batter and was showing his class in the same way kane Williamson did in 2015 with a beyond brittle NZ batting lineup.
But instead Babar is one of the people who fails, infact in 2022 he did way worse then any of his teammates despite batting in top positions. No vibe of being PAKISTAN'S STAR BATSMEN was given.
Infact your own hero Bobby considers Fakhar as the X factor star batter for Pakistan and thinks saim is the one who can hold his hand for 80 in 5 overs while considering himself just an anchorer in the side. Lol
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I think this is just a beginning for Sam. You learn a lot from failures. Till now he only had confidence in his game but now he has doubts too.
3-4 years of domestic cricket along with county stints and A tours will help him and if he is really has caliber, he will emerge as a much better player
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Saim has already played 20 t20 games and yet to score 50. His average is 15.8 and his strike rate is 130. 20 games is a good number to be judged as a player.
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You've conveniently ignored the fact, and the maths, that we scored 2 runs against the mighty Zimbabwe in a super over. And here you're calling me disingenuous for praising Babar's hitting abilities.
Babar is 100x the batter Asif Ali ever was. Not to down play Asif as he could hit from ball one and imo is the missing link in our lower order, but he's no where close to the consistency that Babar does it with. Just you mentioning Babar and Asif in the same sentence means that one you don't understand different roles in cricket and two Babar can hit equally good as Asif. The first I can't help you with but the 2nd is somewhat true as Babar has a similar strike rate to one of our renowned power hitters.
Goes back to understanding roles. Adair starts bowling in the PP when our openers feel out the pitch and conditions. They're not afraid to take him on, as evident by Rizwan's offside six against him in the 2nd match.
Also it's an age old concept in cricket to give respect to the opposition's best bowler and to target weak links. That's just how cricket is played.
All I'll say is whether you support Babar or not, it doesn't make an iota of a difference. He will go down as our best batter ever and that's simply a reality.
Fakhar is an X factor hence why he's persisted with. And Babar is supporting him so what's there to criticize? Did Saim come tell you that Babar asked him to play that way?
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Players don't develop in T20. Likes of klaasen , SKY , Babar , Rizwan , Markram, Buttler all have played 80+ FC games.
There's a reason why Aus didn't pick a sensation like Fraser Mcgurk. They want him to develop further
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And you're forgetting the fact that it was your Hero MISBAH UL HAQ, who made the amazing decison to send in Kushdil Shah, Chacha and Fakhar at no 3 to play a super over. COACH dekho apna. If Pakistan gets another super over, Bobby ain't sending himself, coward is sensing azam, Chacha and fakhar or maybe shadab in place of fakhar but certainly not himself.
Go on, explain why Misbah did it, why your legend made that decison. ill wait.
I guess you don't understand sarcasm, what did I expect, when did I compare them in the same league? Both asif and babar have the same achievements, in the same way Babar is greater captain then Uganda captain HAHAHAHA.
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Your stance has become more confusing as earlier you were making fun of me for suggesting Babar for a super over, now you're calling him a coward for not promoting himself for one (hypothetically)? Do you want him in a super over scenario or not, which is it?
As for Misbah I'm sure he came to a realization after that horrible show that our power hitters can't be relied upon in any scenario. Might have played a part in why Rizwan was promoted to opening as well. And Misbah is a big believer in power hitters. He even brought Sharjeel back to open in his last series
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This thread is not about Babar and Misbah. Please stop derailing this thread, Guys. All irrelevant posts will be removed now.
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So you are not supposed to have two aggressive openers in T20 cricket?
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Travis head, finn Allen, rohit sharma(prime), David Warner(Prime)
These guys have no issues? Also what quality? How is NZ c team bowling wuality? Bracewell is the stigma mark of spin bowling for Babar?
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Enough of this useless player. He is not good enough.
Time to bring back Mohammad haris and fakhar zaman as openers.
Haris is much better than this overhyped hack and fakhar zaman should always open.
Time to bring back Mohammad haris and fakhar zaman as openers.
Haris is much better than this overhyped hack and fakhar zaman should always open.
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Babar and rizwan have scored runs against c team bowling
Something your saim has yet to do that's why he's averaging 15.
First get him to start bashing c teams before you start on about bang banging top bowlers
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Na. Our boy will smash a proper bowling attack and at the right pace. It will happen InshaAllah
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He's not my Saim. I don't own him, and I advocated for saim to be dropped. As I said 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Bring in hasebullah to open for all i care. No wrong will ever make a right
Well I hope so
Or otherwise we might end up waiting for that performance just like haider ali and asif buttler ,
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I’m sure that’s what you would like so Rizwan Bradman can breath easy
Remind us who was the top run scorer for pakistan in Ireland series.
Rizwan will keep breaking records best wicketkeeping batsmen in pakistans history
Although he has to relinquish duties for the moin khans son who will soon be exposed behind the stumps when he starts dropping catches but then again he has no choice but to wicketkeep because the captain can't hide such an unfit monstrosity on the field.
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Let alone Pakistan even India doesn't have anyone who can rival the likes of Travis Head, Finn Allen, Jake Mcgurk, Klassen.
Actually no one in the entire subcontinent is in their league, all the asian teams need to accept that instead of forcing their players to adopt other teams strategy.
Actually no one in the entire subcontinent is in their league, all the asian teams need to accept that instead of forcing their players to adopt other teams strategy.
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Sorry to say this, but he is a rubbish player. We can give him all the chances we possibly can but don't expect him to become some David Warner.
On a good day he will score a 20-ball 35 against Zimbabwe.
On a good day he will score a 20-ball 35 against Zimbabwe.
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Exposed to International Cricket a bit too soon in my opinion. Should be homing his skills in domestic and T 20 leagues. Pakistani selectors keep making the same mistake and lots of cricketers international careers have ended prematurely.
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Even if Saim somehow scores runs against England, I am pretty sure he has a mental blockage who won't be able to handle the pressure of a mega event and will flop badly.
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Being put under pressure by the seniors asking him to go all out from ball 1 while they keep their wicket safe on the other side. Should let him play his natural game.
Kirsten has joined the team today hopefully he will fix that
Kirsten has joined the team today hopefully he will fix that
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Sky, shivam dube, rinku Singh and abishikh are a decent lot for the modern t20
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Saim has a Umar akmal shot selection problem, not a mental blockage
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his shots are good enough but i feel he gets confused while playing it otherwise u have seen how he scored runs in CPL and PSL while playing the same shots..
Lord Umar Akmal is one of his own kind.. nobody can replicate him!
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In an interview Saium Ayub revealed that who inspired him to become a cricketer:
“My biggest inspiration was when I used to watch the Pakistan cricket team play on TV, and sometimes I used to come to the National Cricket Academy (NCA) with Karachi’s U-16 side. I used to watch them carrying Pakistan’s bag and wearing the kit, there was this hunger of obtaining that bag and kit,”
“I have always liked a number of players, especially of the time I was growing up. So, it’s not like a single player was my inspiration. There are many like Saeed Anwar, Adam Gilchrist, Brian Lara, Sachin Tendulkar and many others.”
“My biggest inspiration was when I used to watch the Pakistan cricket team play on TV, and sometimes I used to come to the National Cricket Academy (NCA) with Karachi’s U-16 side. I used to watch them carrying Pakistan’s bag and wearing the kit, there was this hunger of obtaining that bag and kit,”
“I have always liked a number of players, especially of the time I was growing up. So, it’s not like a single player was my inspiration. There are many like Saeed Anwar, Adam Gilchrist, Brian Lara, Sachin Tendulkar and many others.”
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The guy is 20ish
When Gilchrist, Anwar, Lara and Sachin were playing, he would have been 6-7 years old…he hasn’t actually grown up watching them if we try and make sense of it. I doubt any guy remembers cricketers at the age of 6 or 7.
He’s grown up watching the next batch such as Greame Smith, Gayle, Yuvraj etc…even that might be a stretch if you ask me.
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In another case, he might be faking his age.
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yea you are right. If he is 21 that means he was born in 2002. Saeed Anwar retired in 2003 lol SO not sure what he could have learnt from hiim as a 1 year old.In another case, he might be faking his age.
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He could have been watching the videos of him. LOL. Otherwise, there is no chance for him to watch Saeed play live or on TV.
BTW he never said that he watched them playing, he said that he inspired him, so maybe it is just the videos and highlights that he used to watch. But, anyways, he should try to make a name for himself now and forget about these unnecessary things.
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