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[VIDEOS] "I declare that I am available to be considered for the upcoming T20I World Cup": Mohammad Amir

Is Mohammad Amir's return from retirement in Pakistan's best interest?

  • Yes - His experience will be beneficial for Pakistan at the ICC T20I World Cup 2024

    Votes: 41 52.6%

  • No - His availability just for the ICC T20I World Cup 2024 shows his selfishness

    Votes: 37 47.4%
  • Total voters
    78
daytrader said:
Hate him all you want but you can't deny that he doesn't hold grudges against anyone.
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Bro who talked about grudges? Only you keep bringing up this, It takes a big man like misbah nonsense up 24/7.

I brought up shehzad, akmal and bad decisions he made and your justification was It takes a big man like misbah to forgive?

Again I dont get why you keep bringing this up to me 24/7? What does that have anything to do with his past statements or the bad decisions he makes?
 
daytrader said:
Sarfraz had a very fulfilling career under Misbah
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According to daytrader.

No 1) Misbah was an amazing captain because he took his test side to no 1 with limited resources and yes, Younis Khan, Azhar Ali, Sarfraz and Asad Shafiq, 1 ATG, 1 Modern test great and 2 domestic FC toppers were limited resources even though these 4 have been playing test way longer then misbah with YK and Azhar being in the test team before him, But apparently their limited resources.

No 2) Babar Sher will finish off as the greatest pakistani batter to ever play for Pakistan which includes him being superior to Saeed Anwar by miles and dont forget YK in test as well, As obviously saeed anwar cannot compare to bobby who can hut 6 4's in a super over.

No 3) Sarfraz Had a very filfilling career under Misbah by being excluded for 6 games over masir jamshed and having been humilated when he and wahab were the guys who got him into the quater finals, as well as sarfraz having a 29- 3 streak which includes beating Australia 3-0, an Australian team that included the likes of maxwell, finch etc etc whereas Misbah caused 5 straight losses to sri lanka and got Zimbabwe thrashing and got sacked right before 2021 t20 wc.

Their way more gems hes come up with but ill leave it here.
 
mominsaigol said:
According to daytrader.

No 1) Misbah was an amazing captain because he took his test side to no 1 with limited resources and yes, Younis Khan, Azhar Ali, Sarfraz and Asad Shafiq, 1 ATG, 1 Modern test great and 2 domestic FC toppers were limited resources even though these 4 have been playing test way longer then misbah with YK and Azhar being in the test team before him, But apparently their limited resources.

No 2) Babar Sher will finish off as the greatest pakistani batter to ever play for Pakistan which includes him being superior to Saeed Anwar by miles and dont forget YK in test as well, As obviously saeed anwar cannot compare to bobby who can hut 6 4's in a super over.

No 3) Sarfraz Had a very filfilling career under Misbah by being excluded for 6 games over masir jamshed and having been humilated when he and wahab were the guys who got him into the quater finals, as well as sarfraz having a 29- 3 streak which includes beating Australia 3-0, an Australian team that included the likes of maxwell, finch etc etc whereas Misbah caused 5 straight losses to sri lanka and got Zimbabwe thrashing and got sacked right before 2021 t20 wc.

Their way more gems hes come up with but ill leave it here.
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Once again, and this is getting tiring.

Stick to the topic.
 
I'm super excited to see Mohammad Amir's performance in this World Cup. I hope he can help Pakistan cross the line this time.
 
mominsaigol said:
According to daytrader.

No 1) Misbah was an amazing captain because he took his test side to no 1 with limited resources and yes, Younis Khan, Azhar Ali, Sarfraz and Asad Shafiq, 1 ATG, 1 Modern test great and 2 domestic FC toppers were limited resources even though these 4 have been playing test way longer then misbah with YK and Azhar being in the test team before him, But apparently their limited resources.

No 2) Babar Sher will finish off as the greatest pakistani batter to ever play for Pakistan which includes him being superior to Saeed Anwar by miles and dont forget YK in test as well, As obviously saeed anwar cannot compare to bobby who can hut 6 4's in a super over.

No 3) Sarfraz Had a very filfilling career under Misbah by being excluded for 6 games over masir jamshed and having been humilated when he and wahab were the guys who got him into the quater finals, as well as sarfraz having a 29- 3 streak which includes beating Australia 3-0, an Australian team that included the likes of maxwell, finch etc etc whereas Misbah caused 5 straight losses to sri lanka and got Zimbabwe thrashing and got sacked right before 2021 t20 wc.

Their way more gems hes come up with but ill leave it here.
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And what about the gems mominsaigol comes up with when he has no arguments. Always deflecting from the actual topic.

Repeating false narratives don't make them true.
 
daytrader said:
And what about the gems mominsaigol comes up with when he has no arguments. Always deflecting from the actual topic.

Repeating false narratives don't make them true.
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I said let's take this to the misbah thread as its an Amir thread.

And I take SS of most conversations for future reference incase new info comes up. None of the things I say are baseless. Their always written down. Khair, we can go to the other thread or we can have a boxing match. Idrc either way.

All my words are factual and truth to the core and unarguable. Their all facts and data. Weird misbah narratives won't change the fact that Pakistan under sarfi in t20 would dominate A to B string sides that would mollywop Zimbabwe, this NZ c string side etc etc.

Same with no narrative will change the fact that zero misbah interference caused an icc victory and no narrative will change the fact that Pakistan got to Quaterfinals because of sarfi and wahab who did 80% of the work, sarfi who misbah diacarded because you made the following narratives.

Narrative 1: sarfi didn't do anything to warrant a place which I countered with Australian series.

Narrative 2: Sarfi wasn't an opener while jamshed was which I countered with him only opening until that point and even if he doesn't open he warrants a place over akmal as a keeper regardless.

Narrative 3: You went on an insult spree after this fact.

As I said I got stuff written down to counter said denial and people claiming their accusations. And no incase you're wondering it's not because of you, I started doing so ever since the whole Mamoon zalmi stuff happened, where I decided to record backtracks.
 
Mohammad Amir's stellar performances since his comeback - picked the last 5 games so it represents a full T20:

0/34
1/32
1/44
0/41
1/32

Basically 5/183.
 
He is one better bowlers and am glad he came out of retirement.

Both he and Imad are worth it.
 
15 years apart, only Mohammad Amir features in Pakistan's current T20 World Cup 2024 squad from their title-winning 2009 campaign
 
Amir is the last guy people need to worry about. Amir is a gun player. He has big match temperament, he's skillful, he's a smart bowler. He will deliver. His numbers since his comeback are irrelevant. The matches are in West Indies and USA.
 
"I declare that I'm available to be smashed black and blue when I return" :klopp
 
Deluded fans thought that a washed up bowler who was finished years ago would come back in 2024 and win matches for Pakistan. Pakistani fans who supported his return deserve this humiliation.

They will now console themselves by saying that "he is a big game player and will perform at the World Cup" but that drama will end in tears as well.
 
But but he is a big match player. Don’t pay attention to meaningless bilateral. He will come good in the final.
Mamoon said:
Deluded fans thought that a washed up bowler who was finished years ago would come back in 2024 and win matches for Pakistan. Pakistani fans who supported his return deserve this humiliation.

They will now console themselves by saying that "he is a big game player and will perform at the World Cup" but that drama will end in tears as well.
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Mamoon said:
Deluded fans thought that a washed up bowler who was finished years ago would come back in 2024 and win matches for Pakistan. Pakistani fans who supported his return deserve this humiliation.

They will now console themselves by saying that "he is a big game player and will perform at the World Cup" but that drama will end in tears as well.
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you can't really pinpoint amir when the very next over naseem shah went for 25 runs
 
emranabbas said:
you can't really pinpoint amir when the very next over naseem shah went for 25 runs
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Of course I can. Both are rubbish bowlers. Naseem was never good. Just a product of overhyping, and Amir was finished years ago.
 
He really thought he was going to make a grand comeback to international cricket and be a hero for Pakistan at the World Cup.

Not long before he regrets his decision to reverse his retirement. Should have stayed retired and protected his dignity.
 
Mamoon said:
He really thought he was going to make a grand comeback to international cricket and be a hero for Pakistan at the World Cup.

Not long before he regrets his decision to reverse his retirement. Should have stayed retired and protected his dignity.
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What dignity? :ROFLMAO:
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
What dignity? :ROFLMAO:
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People have moved on from the 2010 episode and the way he abruptly retired. When you are out of the Pakistan team for long, people tend to forget your failures. The longer you are out of the team, the better you become.

This is why Amir and Imad were touted as saviors who will change the outlook of the team when they return. They also pushed their agendas on tv and said what people wanted to hear, i.e. hollow talk of intent, aggression, mindset, attacking captaincy bla bla.

Amir became a respected figure in Pakistan cricket again and coupled with some half decent performances in low quality leagues and Pakistan’s own bowling woes, people starting looking at him as someone whose return would uplift and inspire the team.

However, people are now realizing again that he is not all that. It is all talk and no show with him. His best days are behind him and Pakistan got as much out of Amir as they could have and he needs to be resigned to the dustbins of history now.

He is going to back to tv or some other side gig after this humiliation with a different image and reputation. A good performer knows when to leave the stage.
 
7 matches
5 wickets
45 average
9 economy

Why on earth did anyone beg him to come back?
 
Mamoon said:
He really thought he was going to make a grand comeback to international cricket and be a hero for Pakistan at the World Cup.

Not long before he regrets his decision to reverse his retirement. Should have stayed retired and protected his dignity.
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I'm just sad that Sharjeel wasn't included. How fitting it would be to have both fixers getting smashed on their return as they duly should.
 
Rana said:
I think Hassan Ali would be better because he bowled better in PSL 🤡
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Hassan wouldn’t have been any worse.

Average of 45 at an economy of 9. You can pick anyone from domestic cricket and he wouldn’t struggle to match these numbers. 🤡
 
Mamoon said:
Hassan wouldn’t have been any worse.

Average of 45 at an economy of 9. You can pick anyone from domestic cricket and he wouldn’t struggle to match these numbers. 🤡
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Go and beg Hassan to come and play for Pakistan, like they begged Amir
 
Mohammad Amir has had a good record against India in T20Is

Mohammad Amir figures vs IND in T20Is

3/18(4) – 2016 Asia Cup, Mirpur
1/11 (3) – 2016 T20WC, Kolkata
 
Superb from Amir. Even though he's past it, he's possibly the best big match player who's ever played for Pakistan in white ball cricket.
 
Started off very nicely against Canada in the 3rd game of the ICC T20 world cup. Do or Die game, bring your best one out there.

Got a wicket as well in his very first over with a beauty inswinger.
 
Rana said:
Yeah and he should be allowed to just make himself available the week/month before the tournament

None of this “he should be playing domestic cricket” rubbish

No! He will just turn up and play for Pakistan if you want him to play!
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He's the main reason Pakistan has any ICC trophies after Imran's '92.

I actually don't even think he should play any t20 bilateral series after this. He tends to perform averagely in those. Save him for your tournaments. Groom others in the bilaterals. Amir can continue playing in leagues
 
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Tbf he really bowled well against the Canadians.

After his recent spankings against D sides and minnows it was good to see the old Amir. He bowled with pace too.

I just hope it's enough to undo the damage of the worst super over in cricketing history.
 
As per reports, he is set to announce his retirement after the World Cup.

He came back only to bowl the worst Super Over in history. :klopp
 
Amir has bowled well in this tournament so far except for that awful super over. He possesses more intelligence than SSA.
 
Amir in T20 World Cup 2024 so far:

Innings: 3
Wickets: 5
Average: 12.20
Economy Rate: 5.08

He has done a good job so far apart from that super-over blunder. Not gonna say that it was a failed campaign.
 
Since Amirs comeback:

Terrible failing finished Shaheen: Average 15, econ 7.3

GOAT Amir the world beater: Average 28, econ 7.8
(Amir single handedly bowling the worst super over of all time to help Pakistan lose to USA)

But yes, an inswinger to a Canadian software engineer and a couple wickets vs India on a minefield. The GOAT is back!
 
BouncerGuy said:
Amir in T20 World Cup 2024 so far:

Innings: 3
Wickets: 5
Average: 12.20
Economy Rate: 5.08

He has done a good job so far apart from that super-over blunder. Not gonna say that it was a failed campaign.
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Amir should never been brought back.. the damage done to Pakistan cricket is enormous by his return
 
Can play the next T20 WC in India, still very young.. I mean he's a massive upgrade over the likes of useless Abbas Afridi.
 
I bet he wishes he never came back, so much easier talking from a studio in Karachi.

Since his comeback:

Amir 12 wickets, averaging 25, 7.3 economy
Shaheen 23 wickets, averaging 14, 7.2 economy
Naseem 9 wickets, averaging 30, 8.6 economy

Shaheen at his worst, comfortably outperforming the other 2, also didn't bowl the worst super over in history which cost Pakistan 2 points vs USA.

But why did fans expect so much from him? He's just a poor mans Shaheen.

Here's his stats vs the TOP 5 in World cricket at T20 World cups:

Amir averaging 28 at an economy of 7.6
Shaheen averaging 17 at an economy of 6.9.

B-b-b-but he's a big game player!

Here's his stats vs TOP 5 teams in Cricket World Cups (ODI and T20I)

Amir: 31 wickets in 22 matches at an average of 25.
Shaheen: 30 wickets in 16 matches at an average of 22.

Pakistan don't need a washed 34 year old Amir, they have an all-timer in Shaheen.
 
iPakistani said:
I bet he wishes he never came back, so much easier talking from a studio in Karachi.

Since his comeback:

Amir 12 wickets, averaging 25, 7.3 economy
Shaheen 23 wickets, averaging 14, 7.2 economy
Naseem 9 wickets, averaging 30, 8.6 economy

Shaheen at his worst, comfortably outperforming the other 2, also didn't bowl the worst super over in history which cost Pakistan 2 points vs USA.

But why did fans expect so much from him? He's just a poor mans Shaheen.

Here's his stats vs the TOP 5 in World cricket at T20 World cups:

Amir averaging 28 at an economy of 7.6
Shaheen averaging 17 at an economy of 6.9.

B-b-b-but he's a big game player!

Here's his stats vs TOP 5 teams in Cricket World Cups (ODI and T20I)

Amir: 31 wickets in 22 matches at an average of 25.
Shaheen: 30 wickets in 16 matches at an average of 22.

Pakistan don't need a washed 34 year old Amir, they have an all-timer in Shaheen.
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All timer shaheen is one of the biggest reasons for loss in super over by dropping catches and being a run machine.

He was also far worse this cup then Amir was.

Shaheen was better in the nz c and the Ireland series though, and was better in wc 2019. Shaheen's peak is below Amir's peak though
 
"I declare that I am available to be considered for the upcoming T20I World Cup because there is no franchise cricket at this point so why would I miss out on the opportunity of playing a World Cup in USA?

Once the World Cup is over, I will retire again so that I can give priority to franchise cricket.

In the World Cup, I will bowl the worst Super Over in history - conceding 19 runs including 3 wides vs the mighty USA. Afterwards, I will do meaningless stat padding vs Canada & Ireland to ease the pain of my fans"

:klopp
 
mominsaigol said:
All timer shaheen is one of the biggest reasons for loss in super over by dropping catches and being a run machine.

He was also far worse this cup then Amir was.

Shaheen was better in the nz c and the Ireland series though, and was better in wc 2019. Shaheen's peak is below Amir's peak though
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Yeah Shaheen is the reason for the loss, not the fact Mr Mentally strong Mr Big game player bowled the worst super over in history with 3 wides and giving away 19 to USA.

Shaheen was better in bilaterals and the WC 2019 too, yeah fair enough. He was better in WC 2021 and WC 2022 too whilst Amir threw a hissy fit and was sat on talk shows.

"Shaheens peak is below Amirs peak" Shaheen is 24.
 
iPakistani said:
Yeah Shaheen is the reason for the loss, not the fact Mr Mentally strong Mr Big game player bowled the worst super over in history with 3 wides and giving away 19 to USA.

Shaheen was better in bilaterals and the WC 2019 too, yeah fair enough. He was better in WC 2021 and WC 2022 too whilst Amir threw a hissy fit and was sat on talk shows.

"Shaheens peak is below Amirs peak" Shaheen is 24.
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Amir at 17( or 19-21 cause players age fudge) in 2009 was > Anything shaheen has ever done or will be capable of doing considering shaheen's peak is 2019-2021.

In 2017 his performance in the final is also > Shaheen's entire career.

Shaheen is the reason for the loss cause he dropped Jones of Amir, then Rauf got pelted and then Amir bowled a poor super over
 
Amir's real age is around 35 and thats why he was exhausted during the super over vs the US, which was just his 5th over of the match. It goes to show that his fitness and stamina are awful now. I have not seen a bowler be that exhausted playing a T20 game. He is as good as done. Im sure he has played his last match for Pakistan.
 
Mamoon said:
"I declare that I am available to be considered for the upcoming T20I World Cup because there is no franchise cricket at this point so why would I miss out on the opportunity of playing a World Cup in USA?

Once the World Cup is over, I will retire again so that I can give priority to franchise cricket.

In the World Cup, I will bowl the worst Super Over in history - conceding 19 runs including 3 wides vs the mighty USA. Afterwards, I will do meaningless stat padding vs Canada & Ireland to ease the pain of my fans"

:klopp
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Why didn't you mention stat padding vs India? Because you believe he bowled well against them?
 
Mamoon said:
"I declare that I am available to be considered for the upcoming T20I World Cup because there is no franchise cricket at this point so why would I miss out on the opportunity of playing a World Cup in USA?

Once the World Cup is over, I will retire again so that I can give priority to franchise cricket.

In the World Cup, I will bowl the worst Super Over in history - conceding 19 runs including 3 wides vs the mighty USA. Afterwards, I will do meaningless stat padding vs Canada & Ireland to ease the pain of my fans"

:klopp
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The mighty Babar and Riz didn’t even show up against an Oracle employee in that same super over.
 
JaDed said:
The mighty Babar and Riz didn’t even show up against an Oracle employee in that same super over.
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Babar and Rizwan are accumulators. They shouldn't bat during Super Over. It is like sending Joe Root for Super Over.
 
sweep_shot said:
Babar and Rizwan are accumulators. They shouldn't bat during Super Over. It is like sending Joe Root for Super Over.
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No one considers Joe root to be a T20 player, he isn’t even there in the team, Babar and Rizwan open the game and one is a captain.
They can go play ODI then.
 
sweep_shot said:
Babar and Rizwan are accumulators. They shouldn't bat during Super Over. It is like sending Joe Root for Super Over.
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A) Root doesn't play t20.

B) If their accumulators, why play t20 or heck why open when the goal of openers in t20 is to utilise the PP? This isn't odi where you bat through.

C) How is sending chacha and fakhar a solution when the last time these 2 were sent against Zimbabwe they scored 2 runs only? Is chacha not an accumulator when he bats at no 7 and his sr is even lower then Babar's?

D) Why was shadab a tail ender sent at mo 3? Also no just because Babar makes him bat at no 5 and he can slog and tulle baz to 40 of 20 once every 20 games does not make him an established batsmen.
 
mominsaigol said:
A) Root doesn't play t20.

B) If their accumulators, why play t20 or heck why open when the goal of openers in t20 is to utilise the PP? This isn't odi where you bat through.

C) How is sending chacha and fakhar a solution when the last time these 2 were sent against Zimbabwe they scored 2 runs only? Is chacha not an accumulator when he bats at no 7 and his sr is even lower then Babar's?

D) Why was shadab a tail ender sent at mo 3? Also no just because Babar makes him bat at no 5 and he can slog and tulle baz to 40 of 20 once every 20 games does not make him an established batsmen.
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Root used to play T20. Played in 2016 World T20.

I think it was a good decision to send in Fakhar but probably not chacha.
 
sweep_shot said:
Root used to play T20. Played in 2016 World T20.

I think it was a good decision to send in Fakhar but probably not chacha.
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Neither Root, Williamson, Babar and rizwan, or these types of players deserve playing t20, Root doesn't play it anymore, they don't select him.

Meanwhile Bobby and rizzu are stars of Pakistan.
 
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