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[VIDEOS] "I expect more from myself in the future" : Shan Masood

From Fakhar, Imam, Shan it is Shan that looks to be scoring runs easily and fluently by playing proper cricket shots.

That says something about the man!
 
I mean he's a proven failure, some good first class matches and people started being deluded about his 'talent'. Been saying since day one he's a failure.
 
I mean he's a proven failure, some good first class matches and people started being deluded about his 'talent'. Been saying since day one he's a failure.

This.

Some media houses also hype him up, journalists, because he can speak good English and is on good terms with them as well.

He's basically a dad's dream. Nothing on merit.
 
That should be that. He's an awful player and the quicker people realise he's not cut out for international cricket the better. There's a vast difference between trundlers being smashed in domestic cricket and high-class bowlers in the world.

I remember some on here warranted his pick because he was more fitter than the others. Hell I read a somewhere he was captain material because he can speak English :facepalm:
 
That should be that. He's an awful player and the quicker people realise he's not cut out for international cricket the better. There's a vast difference between trundlers being smashed in domestic cricket and high-class bowlers in the world.

I remember some on here warranted his pick because he was more fitter than the others. Hell I read a somewhere he was captain material because he can speak English :facepalm:

Whoever was advocating for him to become captain????
 
out for 12 as captain in the first innings of the QEA for Southern Punjab
 
Shan Masood 57* as Sindh captain vs Southern Punjab in Round 4 of QeA
 
Misbah speaking to the media today:

"Pakistan's last series was in SA and our standout batsman was Shan Masood. His form is a concern but he hit a hundred in his last FC game so he is back in form in the long format. Considering how he played on bouncy pitches in SA, there will be similar conditions in Australia and hopefully he does well."
 
Misbah speaking to the media today:

"Pakistan's last series was in SA and our standout batsman was Shan Masood. His form is a concern but he hit a hundred in his last FC game so he is back in form in the long format. Considering how he played on bouncy pitches in SA, there will be similar conditions in Australia and hopefully he does well."
It’s a bit of an irony when the whole country applauds a batsman for his great performances and standing out as his teams best batsman on a tour — where the concerned player even there didn’t manage to get a 100 in the test series - yes he looked good while at the crease , but there weren’t exactly stacks of runs either that people should keep going on about Shan Masood on that tour to SA.
 
The tour to Aus should be a make or break for Shan Masood, if he’s good enough then at 30 years age and given the chances he gets ahead of others it’s about time he has to deliver as a batsman and that means scoring 100s, not solid looking 30s and 40s.
 
It's about time Shan steps up to the plate now instead of being one of those bit-part players who performs now and then. He's an experienced cricketer now and he needs to start showing the world that he is good enough for Test cricket at the highest level.

At the moment most people are still unconvinced about his abilities.
 
It's about time Shan steps up to the plate now instead of being one of those bit-part players who performs now and then. He's an experienced cricketer now and he needs to start showing the world that he is good enough for Test cricket at the highest level.

At the moment most people are still unconvinced about his abilities.
Agree and if it was just about scoring classy looking 30s and 40s then Mark Ramprakash would have also been ranked among the all time great test batsmen, instead of being considered as a failure at the international level. We tend not to have such a tradition in Pakistan cricket but sometimes you have to draw a line after giving a player so many chances and accept he’s not good enough, time to move on.
 
Agree and if it was just about scoring classy looking 30s and 40s then Mark Ramprakash would have also been ranked among the all time great test batsmen, instead of being considered as a failure at the international level. We tend not to have such a tradition in Pakistan cricket but sometimes you have to draw a line after giving a player so many chances and accept he’s not good enough, time to move on.

I think this series will define Shan's future. If he fails, that should mean that the selectors move on from him.
 
A lot of pressure on Shan, was our best batsman in South Africa, opening slot has a healthy competition for places.

Personally I think Abid ali and Salman Butt would of been the best openers to take to Australia.
 
Masood off to a rocky start to his first innings of the practice match vs. Australia A. A few LBW shouts and a dropped catch in the slips. Settling jitters?
 
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Masood gets out to a short one against Australia A.

Masood 22(52) c Abbott b Meredith.
 
What a poor shot it was. Poor batsman he is. I am gutted that the likes of Saad Ali, Fawad Alam and Usman Salahuddin were ignored for this tour.
 
What a poor shot it was. Poor batsman he is. I am gutted that the likes of Saad Ali, Fawad Alam and Usman Salahuddin were ignored for this tour.
Saad is not an opening batsman, for some reason he reminds me of younis khan, maybe his build.
Fawad is too old now and wouldn't cope with the pace and bounce, in my opinion and usman is not ready yet, needs to be given matches in asia first and same applies to saad
 
A lot of pressure on Shan, was our best batsman in South Africa, opening slot has a healthy competition for places.

Personally I think Abid ali and Salman Butt would of been the best openers to take to Australia.

Missing the elephant in the room - a passed it azhar ali!!
 
Saad is not an opening batsman, for some reason he reminds me of younis khan, maybe his build.
Fawad is too old now and wouldn't cope with the pace and bounce, in my opinion and usman is not ready yet, needs to be given matches in asia first and same applies to saad

Come on man, I would prefer batsmen with decent to good FC batting averages any given day. Do you really think Shan Masood can be a successful batsman in Test cricket given his mediocre FC batting average?
 
Come on man, I would prefer batsmen with decent to good FC batting averages any given day. Do you really think Shan Masood can be a successful batsman in Test cricket given his mediocre FC batting average?

But but but he can speak English and so deserves to be captain. Plus he made the odd 50 in the tour of South Africia and so is now clearly the second coming of Lara.

I have said this from the very beggining - players like Masood who have a poor long term record in domestic cricket simply cannot succeed long term in international cricket. I'm sorry to all the fans of Masood's English out there but he is simply not good enough. Performing better than players who totally failed on a tour of South Africa means nothing - being 'less bad' on a particular tour doesn't make you a good player.

It is fact that in Pakistani culture, the ability to speak English fluently is put on a pedestal, to the extent that your actual skills matter much less. It happened with Salman Butt back in the day and it's happening again with Masood. Imagine if Masood was from the Pind - would he really be playing for Pakistan?
 
Come on man, I would prefer batsmen with decent to good FC batting averages any given day. Do you really think Shan Masood can be a successful batsman in Test cricket given his mediocre FC batting average?

Unfortunately FC batting averages mean little because the there us a tremendous gap between the FC set up and International cricket. Shan Massod has delivered on an overseas tour which none of the other 'options' can claim.

His primary job in Australia is to see off the new ball so that when the likes of Babar arrive they are not vulnerable. He has the technique to succeed in Australia. Needs to be persisted with in both tests.
 
Worst batsman to come out in the last 10 years.

Shameful for domestic system. Influence matters.
 
Unfortunately FC batting averages mean little because the there us a tremendous gap between the FC set up and International cricket. Shan Massod has delivered on an overseas tour which none of the other 'options' can claim.

His primary job in Australia is to see off the new ball so that when the likes of Babar arrive they are not vulnerable. He has the technique to succeed in Australia. Needs to be persisted with in both tests.

FC stats don't mean little at all. Show me one batsman in cricket's history who has a FC average of below 40 and he went on to average above 50 in Test cricket? You can check Asad and Azhar's averages almost matching their FC averages. Same is the case with Babar, I doubt he will ever average more in Test cricket than what he averages in FC cricket. And Shan Masood didn't set the world on fire in South Africa in the first place.
 
FC stats don't mean little at all. Show me one batsman in cricket's history who has a FC average of below 40 and he went on to average above 50 in Test cricket? You can check Asad and Azhar's averages almost matching their FC averages. Same is the case with Babar, I doubt he will ever average more in Test cricket than what he averages in FC cricket. And Shan Masood didn't set the world on fire in South Africa in the first place.

Azhar Ali's FC average is around 36, his Test average is 43. For Asad Shafiq, it's the opposite (almost). FC average ~42, Test average 39.

Babar Azam's FC record is not a good indicator of his potential in the longer format because he's barely played any FC cricket since he started playing for Pakistan. He's played a total of 5 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy matches since his ODI debut. You can compare him with Joe Root, who began his England career at a similar stage when he was relatively young with little experience and an ordinary FC record, and has averaged 50+ in Tests for a long time.
 
shan was dropped before he got out..i saw some shots they were so scratchy.he needs to have a real good tour we cant afford to be 10 for 3 all the time if we need to fight
 
I will be glad to be proved wrong but I really think Shan's SA performance was a fluke. I can't believe some experts here wanted him as test captain.
 
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Masood gets out to a short one against Australia A.

Masood 22(52) c Abbott b Meredith.

Eyes off the ball, footwork nowhere. Not great to watch.
 
Backing him cautiously. I suspect both him and Abid will play in the one-day game after this three-day.
 
What a poor shot it was. Poor batsman he is. I am gutted that the likes of Saad Ali, Fawad Alam and Usman Salahuddin were ignored for this tour.

I know your post is based off Shan's dismissal above. But what limited cricket I have seen of Saad and Fawad, I will have a serious concern if any of these two play in Australia. My concern will be their wellbeing against Starc, Hazelwood, Pattinson, Cummins, etc. Their technique is not ideal for bouncy wickets at all and definitely not against express bowlers. Just have a look at Haris, he has a knack of opening his stance to make room and play on offside. The downside of that stance is tackling short pitched or at body deliveries. If he plays he will be peppered by Aussie quicks for sure.

Usman on the other hand was hard done by to be left out of the squad and getting him into the squad will also be wrong as currently he is not setting world on fire in domestics.
 
I know your post is based off Shan's dismissal above. But what limited cricket I have seen of Saad and Fawad, I will have a serious concern if any of these two play in Australia. My concern will be their wellbeing against Starc, Hazelwood, Pattinson, Cummins, etc. Their technique is not ideal for bouncy wickets at all and definitely not against express bowlers. Just have a look at Haris, he has a knack of opening his stance to make room and play on offside. The downside of that stance is tackling short pitched or at body deliveries. If he plays he will be peppered by Aussie quicks for sure.

Usman on the other hand was hard done by to be left out of the squad and getting him into the squad will also be wrong as currently he is not setting world on fire in domestics.

I get your point, but those averaging above 50 in FC cricket will somehow find a way to adjust, unlike the players with mediocre records.
 
After a shaky start in the first innings of the previous practice game, Shan has now racked up scores of 22, 65 and 76 across the practice matches' innings. Is he picking up form?
 
Elite player always liked his batting need to work on his handling of short pitch bowling
 
Zero technique. One of our worst batters.

And it shows in his batting. It's unbelievable how people ignore his cricketing skills and prefer "great interviews".
 
Zero technique. One of our worst batters.

And it shows in his batting. It's unbelievable how people ignore his cricketing skills and prefer "great interviews".

He did a decent job today tbh. As an opener on the first day of a test, primary responsibility is to get to lunch without losing one's own wicket. He did that. Yes, in a perfect world an opener like Warner would come out and dominate the bowling. But there is no batsmen in Pakistan cricket right now who is capable of doing that.

Australia have the world's best test bowling line up. Surviving 30+ overs against the likes of Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, Lyon in their home conditions is no mean feat. Shan Massod and Azhar Ali effectively killed the new ball. Before this series began if the fans were given an option of being 60+ with the loss of no wickets heading towards lunch, people would have grabbed with both hands.

Shan and Azar put on 75, rest of the batting line up combined is 160, go figure!

The openers did a good job today.
 
Did a half decent job, sadly technically and output wise all our new openers shan, imam, sami aslam etc.. who we have tried have not been great.
 
Did a half decent job, sadly technically and output wise all our new openers shan, imam, sami aslam etc.. who we have tried have not been great.

He was the most comfortable against the short ball in South Africa - his game seems to have regressed against it
 
He was the most comfortable against the short ball in South Africa - his game seems to have regressed against it

Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins are more threatening than Rabada, Steyn and Philander.

No doubt SA have a top notch pace attack, but the Aussie trio with their height and pace are tougher to face. Shan Massod will get better as the series progresses.
 
Shan has been getting starts but his conversion rate has been very poor. Once, you have survived 30+ overs, you should be really aiming for a hundred.
 
Good temperament but limited skills, needs to make it count in this series otherwise he might not be there in the next series as Sami Aslam, Abid Ali or Imam deserve go.
 
When occupying the crease and getting urself in the main thing is to kick on. Im not 100% convinced by shan or imam. So in longterm pakistan needs to find reliable openers.
 
For God Sake both Azhar and Shaan played almost 100 balls each and yet they not able to kick it off from there... No sorry need to move on and find better openers. Can't cut can't pull? watch warner and Aus batsmen using Shaheen and Naseem pace once they settle.
 
When occupying the crease and getting urself in the main thing is to kick on. Im not 100% convinced by shan or imam. So in longterm pakistan needs to find reliable openers.

Imam is 23/24 while Shan is 30 and has played double the matches than Imam and averages 26 after 16 odd matches. Yes at the moment I am also not convinced completely with Imam in tests but he has showed excellent temperament and pressure handling skills in ODIs and has improved considerably as well. I still hope Shan somehow plays a crucial innings in this series for Pakistan otherwise Sami Aslam, Abid, Imam are more deserving.

Not many remember Imam's under pressure knock in test because it was against Ireland but Imam and Babar were the ones that confirmed a comfortable victory which could have turned difficult in those conditions. He has a lot to learn but he has time on his side to and he just needs to work hard.
 
Imam is 23/24 while Shan is 30 and has played double the matches than Imam and averages 26 after 16 odd matches. Yes at the moment I am also not convinced completely with Imam in tests but he has showed excellent temperament and pressure handling skills in ODIs and has improved considerably as well. I still hope Shan somehow plays a crucial innings in this series for Pakistan otherwise Sami Aslam, Abid, Imam are more deserving.

Not many remember Imam's under pressure knock in test because it was against Ireland but Imam and Babar were the ones that confirmed a comfortable victory which could have turned difficult in those conditions. He has a lot to learn but he has time on his side to and he just needs to work hard.

Yes imam is younger but performances in ODIs have nothing to do with tests. Bairstoe, hales, roy have opened in ODI cricket and scored big and been found wanting in tests as an example. Your technic is tested more in test cricket then in ODIs.

Yes imam scored vs ireland, then was a walking wicket in englsnd test series. He was exposed technically vs NZ in UAE and vs SA away. Can imam improve? Yes.

However right now hes proved nothing in tests. If shan fails agsin then Abid Ali should be given 10-12 tests next like imam snd shan have to prove himself.
 
He did a decent job today tbh. As an opener on the first day of a test, primary responsibility is to get to lunch without losing one's own wicket. He did that. Yes, in a perfect world an opener like Warner would come out and dominate the bowling. But there is no batsmen in Pakistan cricket right now who is capable of doing that.

Australia have the world's best test bowling line up. Surviving 30+ overs against the likes of Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins, Lyon in their home conditions is no mean feat. Shan Massod and Azhar Ali effectively killed the new ball. Before this series began if the fans were given an option of being 60+ with the loss of no wickets heading towards lunch, people would have grabbed with both hands.

Shan and Azar put on 75, rest of the batting line up combined is 160, go figure!

The openers did a good job today.

If you're happy with what he did today, then I'm afraid your standards are too low. We're never beating any competent side with Shan type of openers.

You could tell he can't score off these bowlers. There was some movement on offer but not huge, yet he struggled.

He was scared of and very uncomfortable vs the short balls. That is the only thing his admirers claim he can do. But he was totally clueless.

Merely occupying the crease does nothing. We ain't beating anyone with this type of batting.

There's a reason he averages 26.
 
Yes imam is younger but performances in ODIs have nothing to do with tests. Bairstoe, hales, roy have opened in ODI cricket and scored big and been found wanting in tests as an example. Your technic is tested more in test cricket then in ODIs.

Yes imam scored vs ireland, then was a walking wicket in englsnd test series. He was exposed technically vs NZ in UAE and vs SA away. Can imam improve? Yes.

However right now hes proved nothing in tests. If shan fails agsin then Abid Ali should be given 10-12 tests next like imam snd shan have to prove himself.

I agree. Abid and Sami Aslam deserve a go before Imam. I was only referring to the fact that he has shown will and hardwork to improve as we can see from ODIs. Surely he isnt fully ready for tests but as you mentioned he can turn it around.
 
If you're happy with what he did today, then I'm afraid your standards are too low. We're never beating any competent side with Shan type of openers.

You could tell he can't score off these bowlers. There was some movement on offer but not huge, yet he struggled.

He was scared of and very uncomfortable vs the short balls. That is the only thing his admirers claim he can do. But he was totally clueless.

Merely occupying the crease does nothing. We ain't beating anyone with this type of batting.

There's a reason he averages 26.

We're never beating ANY competent side with this batting line-up, Period!

I like this romantic thought that there is this hidden talent that will come out of the woodworks and score at 4 an over against this Aussie attack! There is no one of that calibre.

Rory Burns is perhaps the most uncomfortable looking batsman in the English top order, yet this Ashes he was England's best. The guy scores at a 20-30% SR at the start of every innings. he frustrated Aussie bowlers the most.

That is what an opener does, lay a foundation and see off the new ball. Shan is capable of doing that.

Azhar Ali is due retirement soon, either by choice or by order. When that time comes Pakistan needs a senior opener to accompany the newbie. Shan Masood needs to step upto that senior opener role.

He needs to play both tests before a call is taken, I am convinced he will prove his mettle. The batting line up is filled with seniors who filled up their coffers against weaker opposition or in really helpful conditions. This guy braved it out in SA when rest of them had the tails between their legs.

Let no.3 to no.7 up the ante and play more positively. That is not the openers role.
 
I think he will be disappointed with how he has gone here. He let one dismissal in a tour game define the entire strategy of how to bowl at him. He knows how to play the short ball, he just curbed himself a bit too much. I suspect he will play more or less the same way as he did in the first innings but will go after the short ball.
 
He scratched around for 27 off nearly 100 balls but did not look comfortable for most part of that innings.

I think on the basis of him doing a bit well in the SA tour he was given a nod ahead of Abid and Imam, as I have said before too that his conversion rate in FC is pretty bad too with just averaging 34 after playing 118 matches with just 11 centuries is not good at all but the PCB seems to be content on having players averaging over 30 as pushed into international cricket.
 
I was never a fan of Shan, even now as proven by his innings yesterday that he is not International ready. On the other hand, we do not have an opener who is ready to take on the challenge in any format. We desperately need to make our top 3 batsman our best batsman. Imam is inconsistent, Abid is too new, and Shan is just trash.
 
I was never a fan of Shan, even now as proven by his innings yesterday that he is not International ready. On the other hand, we do not have an opener who is ready to take on the challenge in any format. We desperately need to make our top 3 batsman our best batsman. Imam is inconsistent, Abid is too new, and Shan is just trash.

Sami Aslam should replace him if Shan fails the rest of his innings.
 
I think he will be disappointed with how he has gone here. He let one dismissal in a tour game define the entire strategy of how to bowl at him. He knows how to play the short ball, he just curbed himself a bit too much. I suspect he will play more or less the same way as he did in the first innings but will go after the short ball.

Think you're reading too much into 'can play the short ball'. That was a false impression in SA. Was totally clueless against it yesterday.

Besides, he can't play swing, seam, spin, or good pace. You don't even need the short ball to get him out. Many more weaknesses you shouldn't see in a Test opener.

I was never a fan of Shan, even now as proven by his innings yesterday that he is not International ready. On the other hand, we do not have an opener who is ready to take on the challenge in any format. We desperately need to make our top 3 batsman our best batsman. Imam is inconsistent, Abid is too new, and Shan is just trash.

Yes - the issue is, he isn't international class.

He averages 34 in over 200 First Class innings. And 26 in 30 Test innings. Is never comfortable playing international bowlers (not even domestic).

Was never selected on merit.
 
This guy is here to stay. Has shown solid temperament first in SA and now in Australia.

Expecting him to have a big home season, and possibly replace Azhar as captain eventually, with Babar being his deputy.
 
This guy is here to stay. Has shown solid temperament first in SA and now in Australia.

Expecting him to have a big home season, and possibly replace Azhar as captain eventually, with Babar being his deputy.

Very impressive.
 
Really good inning today and first inning considering early test pitch and masterful bowling attack; always liked him for his temperament and guts to fight it out. His technique will get better and better with experience. Hope he learns quickly to play spin better though.
 
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Shan is not the sort of batsman who'll set the world alight. He is very gritty and old-school.

He is Pakistans best opener especially when travelling. Need to find a replacement for Azhar, and then need to invest in the two openers for the long term.
 
Shan is not the sort of batsman who'll set the world alight. He is very gritty and old-school.

He is Pakistans best opener especially when travelling. Need to find a replacement for Azhar, and then need to invest in the two openers for the long term.
For now Shan is here to stay unless he struggles a lot to against spin, the other opener should be one of Imam or Abid Ali. Azhar needs to retire as he is now. finished due to his age.
 
Like Imam, Shan doesn’t look like a typical Pakistani batsman. His stance, style, technique, fitness etc. are impressive. He needs to learn the art of grinding runs like Imam. I think these two should be our opening pair for now. Azhar has to go.
 
Like Imam, Shan doesn’t look like a typical Pakistani batsman. His stance, style, technique, fitness etc. are impressive. He needs to learn the art of grinding runs like Imam. I think these two should be our opening pair for now. Azhar has to go.

Mickey agrees with Shan and Imam.

They'll probably open at Adelaide.
 
Like Imam, Shan doesn’t look like a typical Pakistani batsman. His stance, style, technique, fitness etc. are impressive. He needs to learn the art of grinding runs like Imam. I think these two should be our opening pair for now. Azhar has to go.

Azhar is our captain. How would that work?
Who would captain the side?
 
Azhar is our captain. How would that work?
Who would captain the side?

Azhar would bat at 3 again and Haris will sit out. I would prefer it the other way around with Babar taking over as captain.

It is going to happen eventually anyway. There is no point in delaying the inevitable.
 
Looks very assured. Imam is a good option but unlike Shan, who can take on the short stuff, is very vulnerable when facing body line stuff. And unlike useless Pakistan think tank who never tried the right strategies for each batsmen, OZ will come prepared and pepper him straight , short of a length deliveries. Unless imam has improved that aspect of his batting , playing him against the fastest attack on the planet on these pitches may not be the greatest idea. Then again, he only has to be better than Azhar so who knows?
 
Shan has got a start here and needs to score big. Otherwise at somepoint Abid Ali needs to be looked at.
 
Shan actually didn't do too bad despite his bad techniques. Other batsmen did worse.

He can get better though.
 
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