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:))) Who were the 4 WISDEN Cricketers of the century? Did Imran Khan find a place?

I mean 5 WISDEN Cricketers of the Century? Warne was just halfway through his career, while Imran completed his career. Yet Warne found a place ahead of Imran.

Gilly, Miller and Warne aren't really talked about in the same breath.

Really? :))
 
He's not but a good case can be argued. He is the 2nd best AR ever and the best Asian cricketer ever.
 
He’s a great cricketer no doubt but he’s far from being the greatest cricketer..

Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, sobers, viv, Sachin, Warne, Wasim are comfortably ahead of him as being the greatest cricketers.. IK is probably in top 10 but not the greatest..
 
He’s a great cricketer no doubt but he’s far from being the greatest cricketer..

Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, sobers, viv, Sachin, Warne, Wasim are comfortably ahead of him as being the greatest cricketers.. IK is probably in top 10 but not the greatest..

Those 3 are better. The rest are debatable. IK's all round worth to any team was immense. In Tests, no way are Sachin or Wasim better than him. He matches them in the primary skill set but brings oodles more in other areas.

Viv is the best cricketer I have ever seen. Imran 2nd.

Emphasis there on seen. Sobers, Bradman etc outrank him on reputation, returns and peer review and scholastic support.
 
Those 3 are better. The rest are debatable. IK's all round worth to any team was immense. In Tests, no way are Sachin or Wasim better than him. He matches them in the primary skill set but brings oodles more in other areas.

Viv is the best cricketer I have ever seen. Imran 2nd.

Emphasis there on seen. Sobers, Bradman etc outrank him on reputation, returns and peer review and scholastic support.



Greatest cricketer is not measured by stats or abilities, Bradman/Hobbs/Grace are not even comparable to today’s tailenders in terms of battingn ability but they are still one of greatest cricketers because of the impact they had in their respective era.. Similarly the names I mentioned are ahead of IK who himself had huge impact but just not as much as the others.. At the end of the day it’s all personal preferences you can rate IK as greatest cricketer and I can put any name which I mentioned as the greatest..
 
Greatest cricketer is not measured by stats or abilities, Bradman/Hobbs/Grace are not even comparable to today’s tailenders in terms of battingn ability but they are still one of greatest cricketers because of the impact they had in their respective era.. Similarly the names I mentioned are ahead of IK who himself had huge impact but just not as much as the others.. At the end of the day it’s all personal preferences you can rate IK as greatest cricketer and I can put any name which I mentioned as the greatest..

If impact on the game is the sole criteria the likes of WG come into play. If judgement is based on performances, then they do not. Incidentally if you read what I wrote, I don't rate him 1st. I rate Sobers #1 and Viv #1 of those I have seen. Imran 2nd.
 
If impact on the game is the sole criteria the likes of WG come into play. If judgement is based on performances, then they do not. Incidentally if you read what I wrote, I don't rate him 1st. I rate Sobers #1 and Viv #1 of those I have seen. Imran 2nd.



Yes and I did mention grace as first in my list.. Like I said greatest cricketers list will be different for everyone if you see wisdens list you’ll get an idea the top 10 names will be somewhat similar in that list as yours and mine the order will change.
 
I mean 5 WISDEN Cricketers of the Century? Warne was just halfway through his career, while Imran completed his career. Yet Warne found a place ahead of Imran.

Really? :))

And? You say this like Wisden is the be all, end all of cricketing discussions. The fact that Warne was rated as one of the cricketers of the century when he "was only halfway through his career" tells me how laughably biased their judgement was.

Imran > Warne/Sachin/Wasim/Murali based on the fact that his bowling was as good as the main skills of these guys but then he was also a very good batsman and a legendary captain.
 
Yes and I did mention grace as first in my list.. Like I said greatest cricketers list will be different for everyone if you see wisdens list you’ll get an idea the top 10 names will be somewhat similar in that list as yours and mine the order will change.

The greatest cricketers in terms of cricketing performance and in terms of impact on the game will be different.
 
Wasim is much more popular on the other side of the border than Imran is.
 
In Tests, no way are Sachin or Wasim better than him. He matches them in the primary skill set but brings oodles more in other areas.

Whatever does "matches them in the primary skill set" mean? You are comparing SRT who scored 15,921 runs at an average of 53.78 to IK who scored 3,807 runs at an average of 37.69.

IK is favored in averages (bowling and batting) as he played only 88 Tests compared to, say SRT who played 200 Tests.

Sobers, Bradman etc outrank him on reputation, returns and peer review and scholastic support.

Not sure if you meant "scholastic", which means "related to education".
 
And? You say this like Wisden is the be all, end all of cricketing discussions. The fact that Warne was rated as one of the cricketers of the century when he "was only halfway through his career" tells me how laughably biased their judgement was.

Imran > Warne/Sachin/Wasim/Murali based on the fact that his bowling was as good as the main skills of these guys but then he was also a very good batsman and a legendary captain.

Here is what you said -

Bradman, Imran, Richards, Marshall and Sobers are the main contenders. Gilly, Miller and Warne aren't really talked about in the same breath.

Now speak :))
 
Wasim is much more popular on the other side of the border than Imran is.

Wasim is more popular, period. Most cricket fans today either grew up watching him or have heard about him extensively from those who did. Most of the fans from Imran's generation are too old to care about cricket.

Here is what you said -

Now speak :))

Of course there are going to be people in the world who rate Warne as the best, I'm sure that is the case with every ATG player. However, the consensus is that Warne is not as great as the Sobers, Bradman, Imran or Viv.
 
The greatest cricketers in terms of cricketing performance and in terms of impact on the game will be different.



Exactly either ways these lists are always based on personal preference however the pool of 20 greatest cricketers will have somewhat same set of players for everyone with 3-4 different choices..
 
Wasim is more popular, period. Most cricket fans today either grew up watching him or have heard about him extensively from those who did. Most of the fans from Imran's generation are too old to care about cricket.



Of course there are going to be people in the world who rate Warne as the best, I'm sure that is the case with every ATG player. However, the consensus is that Warne is not as great as the Sobers, Bradman, Imran or Viv.

Then why exactly did you initially say that Warne is generally not spoken in the same breath? Also why exactly Warne almost always ends up being rated ahead of Imran in lists prepared by former players and cricket pundits?
 
Whatever does "matches them in the primary skill set" mean? You are comparing SRT who scored 15,921 runs at an average of 53.78 to IK who scored 3,807 runs at an average of 37.69.

IK is favored in averages (bowling and batting) as he played only 88 Tests compared to, say SRT who played 200 Tests.



Not sure if you meant "scholastic", which means "related to education".

I mean his bowling is akin to their batting/bowling but his batting (weaker skill) is much better than their weaker skill. Please use logic bhai.
 
In Tests, no way are Sachin or Wasim better than him. He matches them in the primary skill set but brings oodles more in other areas.

Are you sure about it? May be you can argue for Wasim's, but SRT's primary will be certainly ahead. SRT find himself in most all time test XI and then in ODI he is among the top 2-3. The same can't be said about IK's bowling.

For Wasim, you can use an argument that he comes in all time world XIx due to being a left hander, but no such argument exist for SRT making in in all time test world XIs.

As far as skill set goes, Wasim's skill set is unmatched based on what I have seen and also watching footage. Now performance may be a different issue.
 
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I mean his bowling is akin to their batting/bowling but his batting (weaker skill) is much better than their weaker skill. Please use logic bhai.

Logic? There is nothing about IK's bowling with his 362 wkts and 22.81 avg per wkt which compares with SRT's stupendous run scoring. If you want a bowler whose can be compared, you should pick Muralitharan with 800 wkts at 22.72 average. He is the only bowler who matches the prodigious performance of SRT.

The "weaker skill" criteria is nonsense. If you go by it, then Bradman is nothing.
 
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Then why exactly did you initially say that Warne is generally not spoken in the same breath? Also why exactly Warne almost always ends up being rated ahead of Imran in lists prepared by former players and cricket pundits?

I have legit not seen this and don't pay much attention to such lists anyways. They are almost always biased, even more so than lists prepared by fans. We are not handicapped by personal relationships and/or money when discussing cricketers.

Either way, we can move on.
 
Things I've learnt: Shahid Afridi and AB de Villiers are comparable as batsmen because they each have around 8000 ODI runs. Number of matches, averages, peaks, opposition, etc be damned. :))

A bowler averaging under 25 and batsman averaging over 50 are both, more or less, on the same level. Exceptions do exist. If however, the bowler is also a pretty good batsman and a great captain on top of that, he is clearly the superior cricketer.

It is this simple logic that Sachin fans fail to understand. Sachin's impact on the game, his popularity, etc are all there and he's probably #1 regarding those things, however on cricketing ability and performances, Khan is the better player.

Of course, an all-rounder like Kapil or Botham who was not a great with either of their skills cannot be rated higher than someone who is an ATG at batting or bowling.
 
Things I've learnt: Shahid Afridi and AB de Villiers are comparable as batsmen because they each have around 8000 ODI runs. Number of matches, averages, peaks, opposition, etc be damned. :))

By your own logic, you should not be comparing a bowler (IK) who took less than half the number of wickets compared to the top wicket taker (Murli) to a batsman (SRT) who is the absolute highest run scorer in history.

And IK's 3,807 runs at an average of 37.69 is hardly anything to be excited about. Also, given that IK played only 88 Tests (compared to 133 for Murli and 200 for SRT), his averages are always going to look better.
 
Imran Khan is the biggest cricketing asset one could have from a single player because he could provide the following:

1. He was an ATG bowler
2. His batting was good enough alone to play for the second best side in world cricket during his time
3. ATG captain - possibly the best captain of all time
4. Excellent fielder

Now in cricket you are primarily judged on your main facet (so your secondary role as an all rounder is just seen as a bonus). So it is understandable the likes of Tendulkar and Sir Viv are rated higher because they were superior batsmen to what Imran Khan was as a bowler. Likewise same analogy can be used with Shane Warne, as his spin bowling is rated more highly than Imran's pace bowling.

You won't be given extra credentials on the best all time ranking player lists for fielding and captaincy otherwise Tendulkar wouldn't be number 1.

Imran Khan is still the biggest asset to the game based on 1-4, so if I only had one choice he takes my pick over anyone else for these reasons.
 
Imran Khan is the biggest cricketing asset one could have from a single player because he could provide the following:

1. He was an ATG bowler
2. His batting was good enough alone to play for the second best side in world cricket during his time
3. ATG captain - possibly the best captain of all time
4. Excellent fielder

Now in cricket you are primarily judged on your main facet (so your secondary role as an all rounder is just seen as a bonus). So it is understandable the likes of Tendulkar and Sir Viv are rated higher because they were superior batsmen to what Imran Khan was as a bowler. Likewise same analogy can be used with Shane Warne, as his spin bowling is rated more highly than Imran's pace bowling.

You won't be given extra credentials on the best all time ranking player lists for fielding and captaincy otherwise Tendulkar wouldn't be number 1.

Imran Khan is still the biggest asset to the game based on 1-4, so if I only had one choice he takes my pick over anyone else for these reasons.

:)) Great going.
 
I have legit not seen this and don't pay much attention to such lists anyways. They are almost always biased, even more so than lists prepared by fans. We are not handicapped by personal relationships and/or money when discussing cricketers.

Either way, we can move on.

So each and every one of those list compiled by ex cricketers and well known pundits of the game are biased against Imran Khan, not giving him the honor of the position as the greatest cricketer from Asia. While what you say is free from any kind of bias, right?
 
I have legit not seen this and don't pay much attention to such lists anyways. They are almost always biased, even more so than lists prepared by fans. We are not handicapped by personal relationships and/or money when discussing cricketers.

Either way, we can move on.

Even if we take your argument that mosts lists are biased, then why would Sachin find himself in the list for Bradman, Benaud (IK also made it to Benaud's), Wisden XI (Wasim Akram made it to the XI).
 
Just to add, I do not think IK is the greatest cricketer, and nor do I think Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer.
In fact, they are not even the greatest batsman or all rounders. The greatest batsman is Bradman and the greatest AR Sobers.

That greatest cricketer for me is Bradman because he was so far ahead of his competition.

You cannot compare 2 cricketers of different era purely based on statistics. When you compare 2 cricketers of different era, you need to see how far ahead they were from their competition.
 
When you compare 2 cricketers of different era, you need to see how far ahead they were from their competition.

Your criteria is reasonable, though there could be other criteria too. Bob Beamon's long jump record stood for a very long time, and he was far ahead of the competition of his time. But is he a greater long jumper than Mike Powell who broke his record? One can make reasonable arguments for both.
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SRT as a batsman was quite ahead of the other batsman of his time, but not as much as Bradman was. IK on the other hand, was quite behind Murli as a bowler.
 
:)) Great going.

I can only go by the stories of ex players who played with and against him along with those who watched him live. He wasn't as good as Kapil Dev but he certainly was very decent and well above average in the era he played but anyway it was just a less significant point to sum up my argument in why he was the greatest asset but unfortunately you're another insecure Tendulkar fan who will treat this as blasphemy against your God.
 
I can only go by the stories of ex players who played with and against him along with those who watched him live. He wasn't as good as Kapil Dev but he certainly was very decent and well above average in the era he played but anyway it was just a less significant point to sum up my argument in why he was the greatest asset but unfortunately you're another insecure Tendulkar fan who will treat this as blasphemy against your God.

No, I'm just laughing at you suggesting that Imran Khan was a great fielder. It would be generous to say that he was an average fielder. Sachin has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
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Logic? There is nothing about IK's bowling with his 362 wkts and 22.81 avg per wkt which compares with SRT's stupendous run scoring. If you want a bowler whose can be compared, you should pick Muralitharan with 800 wkts at 22.72 average. He is the only bowler who matches the prodigious performance of SRT.

The "weaker skill" criteria is nonsense. If you go by it, then Bradman is nothing.

A bowling average of 22 over a large sample size is equivalent to a batsman averaging 53. Both are great records.

88 tests was plenty back in the 70s and 80s. Only post 2000 did the number of games mushroom so much.

WRT other skill, we were discussing who adds the most to a team. Both were ATGs in their primary skill but IK was also intl standard with the bat (38 was akin to the average of many specialist bats in the 80s!). That gives him higher value to any team than someone who is top draw in only 1 area.
 
Your criteria is reasonable, though there could be other criteria too. Bob Beamon's long jump record stood for a very long time, and he was far ahead of the competition of his time. But is he a greater long jumper than Mike Powell who broke his record? One can make reasonable arguments for both.
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SRT as a batsman was quite ahead of the other batsman of his time, but not as much as Bradman was. IK on the other hand, was quite behind Murli as a bowler.

In the 90s, Sachin was in a different league altogether. He rightly has the claim of being the no.2 batsman after what he did in the 90s.
 
A bowling average of 22 over a large sample size is equivalent to a batsman averaging 53. Both are great records.

88 tests was plenty back in the 70s and 80s. Only post 2000 did the number of games mushroom so much.

WRT other skill, we were discussing who adds the most to a team. Both were ATGs in their primary skill but IK was also intl standard with the bat (38 was akin to the average of many specialist bats in the 80s!). That gives him higher value to any team than someone who is top draw in only 1 area.

I would look further than just the average. How many runs per match did he score in the 80s?
 
88 tests was plenty back in the 70s and 80s. Only post 2000 did the number of games mushroom so much.

Wrong again! Vivian Richards 121 Tests, Allan Border 156 Tests, Sunil Gavaskar 125 Tests etc.

Also MM played 50% more Tests than IK and took more than 100% more wickets.

SRT's average fell because he played so long, 200 Tests total.
 
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Wrong again! Vivian Richards 121 Tests, Allan Border 156 Tests, Sunil Gavaskar 125 Tests etc.

Also MM played 50% more Tests than IK and took more than 100% more wickets.

SRT's average fell because he played so long, 200 Tests total.

His own team mate Miandad played 124 Tests. Kapil played 131 Tests.
 
One thing Imran was not - a good fielder. He was not entirely horrible as a fielder but if we go by today's standard, he was BAD.

To me, he matured the most among his cricket generation as an all-rounder and a leader. Those who actually saw him initially will vouch that he was a loner as a cricketer and sounded a very arrogant person so leadership did not come naturally to him.

He lead with authority but Miandad played a key role as his vice captain in smart tactical decisions and many of the victories.
 
Sportstar Archives: Imran Khan on his controversial status and love for his hospital

In this 1994 interview, the former Pakistan World Cup-winning captain Imran Khan speaks of his looming presence on his country's cricket proceedings and more.

20 APRIL, 2020 06:40 IST

Imran Khan stresses the need for education among cricketers. - THE HINDU ARCHIVES - THE HINDU ARCHIVES

If there is a stampede in the VIP stands at Sharjah, you would know Imran Khan has arrived. No film star, no cricketer, no other personality evokes such from the public as Imran does. You have to see it to believe it. Officials, former players, fans, everyone likes to be seen with Imran in Sharjah. Sitting to him ensures the attention of the TV cameras. The day he made a brief visit to the Sharjah stadium during the Australasia Cup, Imran got tired of posing for photographs. The queue of autograph hunters endless, and he had no choice but to leave the arena and rush back to his hotel in Dubai to catch up with the match.

"Imran Khan zindabad" went the slogan and it must have been embarrassing for the Khan himself. In fact, he blushed as his requested friend him to rise and acknowledge, the slogan shouters. Imran waved and the crowd, satisfied, turned its attention to the Pakistan-New Zealand semifinal in progress.

"It's a great feeling really. To be recognised and honoured like this. I must thank cricket for all this," Imran said. People close to him say that Imran has changed over the last couple of years. He is very approachable these days (not necessarily for journalists). He is no more the fiery personality that he
was. Signs of age are visible on his face. But he is as energetic as ever in seeking help to give shape to his dream – the cancer hospital in Lahore.

Can you believe this: Imran Khan has no time for cricket. Not even a minute. Still Imran is a controversial figure in Pakistan cricket. He fumes when he defends himself. "It really upsets me. I don't understand why they drag my name everytime something wrong in Pakistan cricket. I have never interfered, never. Ever since I quit, I have never, ever, entered the dressing room. Once I gave up cricket, that was the end of it. I had nothing, and I have to do with cricket in Pakistan."

But why? "I returned to cricket because of the hospital. I quit because of the hospital. After leaving the scene, cricket was never on my mind. I had my own commitments regarding the hospital work. I never wanted to get involved with cricket politics in Pakistan and I never would. I deliberately kept myself out of it all the time. I am so immersed in my hospital work that I have no for cricket. I really don't interfere with cricket and it hurts me when people drag my in and controversies."

Was he not behind Javed Miandad's ouster? Imran laughs. “I felt sad to see Javed retire the way he did. Good he came back to quit gracefully. When Javed struggled in the West Indies, he said he had no motivation left. He said it on TV, on the national network. His comeback depends on how fit he is, and how his motivation is."

Did he not when he asked Wasim Akram to not join the team for the tour to New Zealand? "That my personal opinion. There were nine members in the team who had revolted against Wasim and it not the right atmosphere for him. What if something had happened during the tour. There was so much dissension in the side. You have to have some cohesion in the side. That was no way to run a team. Unless the players get their act together, Pakistan will become a mediocre side, no matter how much talent they have."

And, as for such things happening, Imran has a simple answer. “This trait, to become captain, is only in the sub-continent. Everyone wants to become the captain. You won't see this anywhere else in the world. It is only in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and India."

Imran is surprised at the dissension in the Pakistan team. "I don't how understand how it started. When I left the side after the World Cup, there were no such problems. It was the best side Pakistan had ever had. I haven't had the privilege of playing with players that we have in the side today. They must sort out their problems before it becomes too late."

Imran always took pride in beating India. He had gone on record saying one of his was to beat India in India. He achieved it in 1987. How did he view this India-Pakistan rivalry. "It is exciting. Like England-Australia. You get that extra pleasure in winning. But we carry it too far. I mean the crowds in the two countries. It is just a game. Look at England-Australia. They also play very hard but that doesn't affect the relationship. Even the India-Pakistan rivalry hasn't been that bad. At least we have not had an instance of the two countries breaking the relations because of cricket. I feel sad that we don't play each other often."

Why has cricket failed in bringing the two countries (India and Pakistan) together? Imran does not waste time. "Because people don't follow cricket purely as a sport. Rather than cricket heroes being appreciated, and looked up to, what is happening is cricket is followed on emotional lines and not on cricketing lines. As a result, the cricket field becomes a battle field between India and Pakistan. Rather than becoming a place where cricket is appreciated by people of both the countries and taken as a sport, it becomes something more. Like I said, there is intense rivalry between England and Australia but the cricket heroes are appreciated in both the countries. Sadly, it doesn't happen when India plays Pakistan."

Does he believe India and Pakistan can resume cricketing ties? "Not in the near future, I don't think the atmosphere is conducive. With the two Governments hitting out at each other and this Kashmir problem unresolved, I don't think we should visit each other."

How about a India-Pakistan Test in Sharjah? "It doesn't make sense playing Test cricket in a neutral country. It is nice to have one-day competitions in Sharjah. It has an electrifying atmosphere but then you can't be playing consistently in a neutral country."

But India has had problems in Sharjah too. Playing conditions, umpires, atmosphere... Imran is angry. "What nonsense. We beat India in India. We beat India in Pakistan. We beat India in Sharjah. What is this great thing about losing to Pakistan in Sharjah. There is nothing wrong in Sharjah. In 1991, I told Azhar to reduce the overs. He didn't agree. Those three leg before decisions (in the final). You show them to any neutral umpire and I am sure he will say they were all out. All this talk is nonsense. We have always won fair and square in Sharjah. Why crib because you keep losing to Pakistan in Sharjah."

Imran stressed the importance of a role in bringing about a revolution. He has been a role model for thousands of cricketers in Pakistan. "Forget me. You need a role model in every sphere of life. A role model is very important. You need role models in sports. You need role models for nations too. You have to have someone to look up to. Someone to follow."

Apart from having a role model, what does he think is important to become a cricketer? "Not just in cricket, but to become successful you have to education. There are two things you must remember. One is education and the other is hard work.

“It is very important to study, All play and no study doesn't make you an all-rounder. You got to develop your capabilities and education helps you a lot in doing that. Then hard work. God gives you talent but you have to work hard to do justice to that talent."

How does education reflect on the field? "It does. As it does in other walks of life. You can't, go anywhere in the world without education. It is the key to success in life. A sportsman should remember he can't be playing all his life. What happens once you stop playing. If you are not educated, you can't rise in life. Education helps you hone your cricket. It is an intellectual game, I would say education is a must in cricket and life."

Imran does follow cricket through newspapers and television. It is interesting to watch, he says. But he disagrees with all the cricket Boards placing so much attention on limited overs cricket. "I would like to see a balance between Test and one-day cricket. At the moment I am worried one-day cricket will overshadow Test cricket. And that would be sad."

Who, in Imran's opinion, were the great fast bowlers of his time? "I saw some of the greatest bowlers from 1976 to 1986. Marshall had tremendous variety. Lillee was great. Holding was the most talented. Roberts was extraordinary. Hadlee was so versatile. They were all great bowlers. Akram, I think, rates among them. He is a dangerous bowler because he slants the ball from that height. He moves the ball both ways at pace. Waqar is stronger and quicker."

On swing, Imran was candid. "People don't know what reverse swing is. To say that illegal methods are used to reverse swing is complete nonsense. If you play on a wicket like Sharjah, the ball would be roughed up in 15 overs. All you have to do is shine one side and if you have the capability you will be able to reverse swing it. At the same time, there are illegal methods used by some to reverse swing the ball but then they are used in normal swing and bowling also. By lifting the seam. So that's illegal. You can't say reverse swing is illegal."

If he ever became a coach, what would Imran tell the youngsters? "Hard work is never wasted. That was the first lesson I learnt. The benefits may come later but they would come. But you must enjoy that hard work. You must have the enthusiasm to be a keen student of the game. If you want to become a good fast bowler, you must have the pace and the ability to move the ball. Just pace doesn't help. On slow wickets, you got to move the ball to deceive the batsmen. You must be fit, have a big heart."

Imran does not a single meeting concerning the Shaukat Khanam Cancer Hospital, built in memory of his mother, who died of this dreadful disease. "I am very strict about anything concerning the hospital," Imran informs you. He makes no mention of the fact he still the Qaddafi Stadium daily. In the Imran can be spotted at the Qaddafi Stadium, running and training, spending time at the gymnasium.

In between, if he is required at his office, Imran does not waste time in changing. He is reported to have attended important meetings in track-suits. At heart, the greatest all-rounder from Pakistan is still a sportsman.

People have found fault with Imran for using cricket to collect money for the hospital. His speech after the World Cup victory in Australia made no of his team members but included his passion for his hospital. "It a fault. I should have mentioned my team members in that moment of triumph but it was not deliberate. Needless to say the World Cup victory was a team effort."

But the hospital is a charitable venture and in Imran's words “essentially it is for the poor." At present, there is a collection campaign in Pakistan to assist the hospital work and people from all comers been generously donating money. "Zakat" as it is known in Pakistan is where people donate money voluntarily for the poor and needy.

Ever since he quit playing, the hospital has been Imran's only ambition in life. He is excited as he talks about his dream which promises to be fulfilled by the year end. "In the beginning it was tough. When my mother died, I made this rash statement that I would build a cancer hospital. It was an emotional statemenr not knowing how tough it would be. I really didn't realise the impact that statement would make. People expected me to fulfill it. It was really tough but as time passed it became a passion for me.

The hospital became my motivation in life. The hospital has given me the greatest fulfillment of my life. I have achieved so much in cricket. Winning the World Cup was my greatest moment ever but more than all that, it is the hospital which has given me the greatest satisfaction. It has surpassed everything I have achieved in life."

You can see the pride on Imran's face when he says that by this year the hospital would be fully operational. "Come and see it for yourself," he adds before going to the TV box, his only connection with cricket now.

This interview first appeared on Sporstar on May 14, 1994.
 
June 3rd, 1971 : Imran Khan makes his Test debut versus England at Edgbaston

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1971. Imran Khan made his Test debut versus England at Edgbaston. The brilliant all-rounder played 88 Tests, scoring 3807 runs and took 362 wickets in a career that lasted over 20 years <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <br>(Video is of course not from his debut) <a href="https://t.co/9EXa9nQwSr">pic.twitter.com/9EXa9nQwSr</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1268181031124860928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1982. Imran Khan at his best with 8-60 in the second innings as Pakistan beat India by an innings and 86 runs in Karachi <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/qGX1ucaLZL">pic.twitter.com/qGX1ucaLZL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1343149116491239424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2020</a></blockquote>
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This thread is a perfect encapsulation of Indians and their lifelong insecurity with Imran Khan :))
 
Imran was the greatest Pakistani captain and all rounder. He was also a great leader who picked up no-names from nowhere and honed them into match winners.

However, while Imran’s this trait of not going through the system worked for him and Pakistan at that time, it completely ruined the overall the Pakistan cricket mindset.

This Pakistani habit of continuously trying to find gems from the rough by picking raw kids without experience and throwing them to deep end in tests and ODI, instead of letting players come through the trenches, was started by him and has been a disaster in general.

The last 10-15 years of poor Pakistan cricket record (euphemistically called unpredictable Pakistan) can be blamed on Imran to a large extent.
 
Greatest Pakistani cricketer but Tendulkar and Kohli are ahead of him. Dhoni is on par with Imran.
 
Greatest Pakistani cricketer but Tendulkar and Kohli are ahead of him. Dhoni is on par with Imran.

Only Tendulkar.

The fact that you mentioned Dhoni, a guy who never scored a Test ton outside Asia (outside India and Pakistan ACTUALLY!) invalidates your argument.

Kohli’s performances have started to regress and he has been terrible in WC’s despite being THE favorite two times in a row. And not even the WC, but his legacy as captain in LOI will always be of the stubborn child who never quite understood the cold truth of leadership in his bones.

His thickness has cost IND the opportunity to win in SA, ENG, and NZ in Test cricket because of his inability to pick on merit. He has a fantastic home record and an overseas win against a depleted AUS, but that’s not enough to be amongst the very best of Test cricket captains.
 
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Only Tendulkar.

The fact that you mentioned Dhoni, a guy who never scored a Test ton outside Asia (outside India and Pakistan ACTUALLY!) invalidates your argument.

Kohli’s performances have started to regress and he has been terrible in WC’s despite being THE favorite two times in a row. And not even the WC, but his legacy as captain in LOI will always be of the stubborn child who never quite understood the cold truth of leadership in his bones.

His thickness has cost IND the opportunity to win in SA, ENG, and NZ in Test cricket because of his inability to pick on merit. He has a fantastic home record and an overseas win against a depleted AUS, but that’s not enough to be amongst the very best of Test cricket captains.

Dhoni is the only captain in history to win every single thing. He is also one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time and one of the greatest WK batsman across formats.

He is also the best WK batsman in Asian cricket history, considering Sangakkara didn’t keep for the most of his Test career.

Kohli is one of the all-time great batsmen in the league of Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Sir Viv and he has been a phenomenal Test captain with 33 Tests wins, more than any other Asian captain.

Pakistani fans can downplay and dismiss his captaincy record but the fact is that his name will always feature at the top of most successful Test captains by wins.

He has also instilled a ruthless mentality in this Indian team. He has developed a proper bowling unit with impressive fitness.

Their fightback and performance in this Test is a result of the mentality and confidence Kohli has instilled in this side. No other team would have been able to fight back in Australia after the Adelaide debacle.

They would have laid down their arms and allowed Australia to roll them over and whitewash them.

Pakistani fans who were dancing after the Adelaide Test didn’t expect in their worst nightmares that India would bounce back immediately in the next Test and put Australia on the ropes, but this is what we deserve for disrespecting a far, far better team than ours.
 
He is the greatest individual to have played this game. Cricket seems more attractive and prestigious knowing that Imran Khan was once a cricketer. He elevated the game itself. I'm glad that this sport and its fans had the honor of having IK.
 
No one can come closer to Sir Vivian Richards. He was greatest of all.
The fearless attitude, swag and confidence, he had it all
And add to it a couple of world cups and dominating 2 decades
 
Greatest Pakistani cricketer but Tendulkar and Kohli are ahead of him. Dhoni is on par with Imran.

Lol. Imran is far better then them. Dhoni is not fit to tie his shoes laces as a cricketer. You seriously do hate imran. Imran test batting alone is miles better then HTB dhoni.

Lol imran and dhoni in a same sentenece is as worse as umer akmal and kholi.
 
Only Tendulkar.

The fact that you mentioned Dhoni, a guy who never scored a Test ton outside Asia (outside India and Pakistan ACTUALLY!) invalidates your argument.

Kohli’s performances have started to regress and he has been terrible in WC’s despite being THE favorite two times in a row. And not even the WC, but his legacy as captain in LOI will always be of the stubborn child who never quite understood the cold truth of leadership in his bones.

His thickness has cost IND the opportunity to win in SA, ENG, and NZ in Test cricket because of his inability to pick on merit. He has a fantastic home record and an overseas win against a depleted AUS, but that’s not enough to be amongst the very best of Test cricket captains.

Lol dhoni being as good as imran. Thats the most ludcrious rubbish i have seen on here. Surprise surpsie its a well known imran hater.
 
Hahaha Dhoni vs Imran. Dhoni is good enough to tie Imran's shoelaces.

Tendu vs Imran is close. I don't know who is greater per say. I would say imran as he is an all rounder. Would be th first name on my first 11.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1982. Imran Khan at his best with 8-60 in the second innings as Pakistan beat India by an innings and 86 runs in Karachi <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/qGX1ucaLZL">pic.twitter.com/qGX1ucaLZL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1343149116491239424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Man India had no answers to Imran that time. Would be cool if we could transpose Imran esque player into modern era.

There are only 3 great all rounders ever..

Kalis Imran Sobers
Maybe stokes soon if he keeps his form.
 
Dhoni is the only captain in history to win every single thing. He is also one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time and one of the greatest WK batsman across formats.

He is also the best WK batsman in Asian cricket history, considering Sangakkara didn’t keep for the most of his Test career.

Kohli is one of the all-time great batsmen in the league of Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Sir Viv and he has been a phenomenal Test captain with 33 Tests wins, more than any other Asian captain.

Pakistani fans can downplay and dismiss his captaincy record but the fact is that his name will always feature at the top of most successful Test captains by wins.

He has also instilled a ruthless mentality in this Indian team. He has developed a proper bowling unit with impressive fitness.

Their fightback and performance in this Test is a result of the mentality and confidence Kohli has instilled in this side. No other team would have been able to fight back in Australia after the Adelaide debacle.

They would have laid down their arms and allowed Australia to roll them over and whitewash them.

Pakistani fans who were dancing after the Adelaide Test didn’t expect in their worst nightmares that India would bounce back immediately in the next Test and put Australia on the ropes, but this is what we deserve for disrespecting a far, far better team than ours.

Nothing can convince you otherwise because you have become what you always hated, someone who relies on emotion and irrationality to formulate their opinion.

I could try and have an argument but it’s of no use.
 
Nothing can convince you otherwise because you have become what you always hated, someone who relies on emotion and irrationality to formulate their opinion.

I could try and have an argument but it’s of no use.

I can say the same about you. You were literally abusing me after the Adelaide Test and thumping your chest, but now you have gone quiet. Not in a million years did you think India could turn it around in this fashion, that too without Kohli.

If this doesn’t open your eyes and convince you, nothing will. This is the GOAT Asian Test team and Kohli is the GOAT Asian captain. Yes he is better than Imran Khan.

The fighting spirit of this Indian team and their mentality is his legacy. He has changed the complexion of Indian cricket and they are ready to roll on even without his presence.

The impact of Kohli’s leadership will be present years after he is retired.

Respect true greatness.
 
I can say the same about you. You were literally abusing me after the Adelaide Test and thumping your chest, but now you have gone quiet. Not in a million years did you think India could turn it around in this fashion, that too without Kohli.

If this doesn’t open your eyes and convince you, nothing will. This is the GOAT Asian Test team and Kohli is the GOAT Asian captain. Yes he is better than Imran Khan.

The fighting spirit of this Indian team and their mentality is his legacy. He has changed the complexion of Indian cricket and they are ready to roll on even without his presence.

The impact of Kohli’s leadership will be present years after he is retired.

Respect true greatness.

If I wanted to hide, I would go away for two months like you whenever Pakistan has some semblance of international success.

The IND-AUS series is not yet over; it can go either way. I already accepted the fact that IND is better than PAK a long time ago.

What others and I have in contention with you is this idea that this Indian team is the GOAT Asian team. And it’s not just your opinion but your flaunting of it every time you make a post related to Test cricket or LOI cricket.

You seem annoyed because of the 36 posts? Imagine how the rest of us live with your “Kohli is the GOAT Asian Captain” mantra every time anything remotely related to Test cricket is mentioned.

And btw, I respect Kohli more than any other cricketer today, even KW who is overrated on PP because he performs against PAK. But I am not in love with him so much that I cannot criticize his shortcomings.
 
Dhoni is the only captain in history to win every single thing. He is also one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time and one of the greatest WK batsman across formats.

He is also the best WK batsman in Asian cricket history, considering Sangakkara didn’t keep for the most of his Test career.

Kohli is one of the all-time great batsmen in the league of Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Sir Viv and he has been a phenomenal Test captain with 33 Tests wins, more than any other Asian captain.

Pakistani fans can downplay and dismiss his captaincy record but the fact is that his name will always feature at the top of most successful Test captains by wins.

He has also instilled a ruthless mentality in this Indian team. He has developed a proper bowling unit with impressive fitness.

Their fightback and performance in this Test is a result of the mentality and confidence Kohli has instilled in this side. No other team would have been able to fight back in Australia after the Adelaide debacle.

They would have laid down their arms and allowed Australia to roll them over and whitewash them.

Pakistani fans who were dancing after the Adelaide Test didn’t expect in their worst nightmares that India would bounce back immediately in the next Test and put Australia on the ropes, but this is what we deserve for disrespecting a far, far better team than ours.

Nothing can convince you otherwise because you have become what you always hated, someone who relies on emotion and irrationality to formulate their opinion.

I could try and have an argument but it’s of no use.

I can say the same about you. You were literally abusing me after the Adelaide Test and thumping your chest, but now you have gone quiet. Not in a million years did you think India could turn it around in this fashion, that too without Kohli.

If this doesn’t open your eyes and convince you, nothing will. This is the GOAT Asian Test team and Kohli is the GOAT Asian captain. Yes he is better than Imran Khan.

The fighting spirit of this Indian team and their mentality is his legacy. He has changed the complexion of Indian cricket and they are ready to roll on even without his presence.

The impact of Kohli’s leadership will be present years after he is retired.

Respect true greatness.

If I wanted to hide, I would go away for two months like you whenever Pakistan has some semblance of international success.

The IND-AUS series is not yet over; it can go either way. I already accepted the fact that IND is better than PAK a long time ago.

What others and I have in contention with you is this idea that this Indian team is the GOAT Asian team. And it’s not just your opinion but your flaunting of it every time you make a post related to Test cricket or LOI cricket.

You seem annoyed because of the 36 posts? Imagine how the rest of us live with your “Kohli is the GOAT Asian Captain” mantra every time anything remotely related to Test cricket is mentioned.

And btw, I respect Kohli more than any other cricketer today, even KW who is overrated on PP because he performs against PAK. But I am not in love with him so much that I cannot criticize his shortcomings.

So why in a thread about IK are we again talking about Kohli and India getting bundled out for 36?
 
Having watched cricket for 4 decades, I can safely say there has been no better cricketer than Imran, Viv Richards, Brian Lara and Shane Warne in that time. Their winner mentality was second to none.

They also had singular ability to bend events to their will.

I lost count of the number of times I would watch Imran turn up for bowling, batting or captaincy and completely change the course of games in a matter of minutes. He was singular.

I have many arguments for the likes of Tendulkar, Akram, Kohli and McGrath being the next best.
 
Having watched cricket for 4 decades, I can safely say there has been no better cricketer than Imran, Viv Richards, Brian Lara and Shane Warne in that time. Their winner mentality was second to none.

They also had singular ability to bend events to their will.

I lost count of the number of times I would watch Imran turn up for bowling, batting or captaincy and completely change the course of games in a matter of minutes. He was singular.

I have many arguments for the likes of Tendulkar, Akram, Kohli and McGrath being the next best.

I agree with that, I'd also include McGrath and marshall in that list.
 
So why in a thread about IK are we again talking about Kohli and India getting bundled out for 36?

Mods please note... Imran not even mentioned in these posts. Not sure why you allow such instigating posts with no relevance to the topic and only there to generate clicks, hurl degrading comments, and make Pakistani fans afraid to celebrate their own heroes.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1983. Imran Khan finished with figures of 6-98 in India's first innings in Faisalabad. By the end of the match, Imran had figures of 11-180. He also scored 117 in the 1st innings as Pakistan won by 10 wickets <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/12BpysQboW">pic.twitter.com/12BpysQboW</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1346008921283178496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Those are insane stats. Imran was one of the best in his prime
 
Imran is the GOAT.an all-rounder is always better than a bowler or a batsman and Imran was ATG and a very good batsman and he was wonderful captain and leader.He is the GOAT.
 
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Now a days, kids get hype only because they can bowl 145km.
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Yes Imran is the greatest crickter ever, Shahid Afridi is the greatest all rounder ever, Inzaman is the greatest batsman ever and Mohammad Amir is the greatest bowler ever, followed by Naseem Shah.

I haven't seen one fantasy team by any cricketer, which even had Imran Khan name in it but who are these ex-cricketers, Imran with 2-3 victories outside Asia is the greatest captain ever.
 
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Yes Imran is the greatest crickter ever, Shahid Afridi is the greatest all rounder ever, Inzaman is the greatest batsman ever and Mohammad Amir is the greatest bowler ever, followed by Naseem Shah.

I haven't seen one fantasy team by any cricketer, which even had Imran Khan name in it but who are these ex-cricketers, Imran with 2-3 victories outside Asia is the greatest captain ever.

Richie Benaud and Dickie Bird both had IK in their All-Time Test XI.
 
Dhoni is the only captain in history to win every single thing. He is also one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time and one of the greatest WK batsman across formats.

He is also the best WK batsman in Asian cricket history, considering Sangakkara didn’t keep for the most of his Test career.

Kohli is one of the all-time great batsmen in the league of Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Sir Viv and he has been a phenomenal Test captain with 33 Tests wins, more than any other Asian captain.

Pakistani fans can downplay and dismiss his captaincy record but the fact is that his name will always feature at the top of most successful Test captains by wins.

He has also instilled a ruthless mentality in this Indian team. He has developed a proper bowling unit with impressive fitness.

Their fightback and performance in this Test is a result of the mentality and confidence Kohli has instilled in this side. No other team would have been able to fight back in Australia after the Adelaide debacle.

They would have laid down their arms and allowed Australia to roll them over and whitewash them.

Pakistani fans who were dancing after the Adelaide Test didn’t expect in their worst nightmares that India would bounce back immediately in the next Test and put Australia on the ropes, but this is what we deserve for disrespecting a far, far better team than ours.

That wasn't Kohli though. That was Rahane, who so far seems clearly a better captain than the overrated Kohli. Under Kohli, India have underperformed overseas and that is a fact. Nobody will remember or care about his home victories or overall win record.

Imran, Murali and Tendulkar are the greatest Asian cricketers of all time, and fans can debate who is superior to who. I consider Imran for the all-round package.

Kohli is clearly a worldclass batsman but he needs a sustained performance over this decade and some all-time great innings to pass Tendulkar. I personally don't think he can. Tendulkar will remain Asia's best bat.
 
I think the thread should be Imran - Asia's Greatest Cricketer. As long as there is Bradman there is no debate.
 
Yes Imran is the greatest crickter ever, Shahid Afridi is the greatest all rounder ever, Inzaman is the greatest batsman ever and Mohammad Amir is the greatest bowler ever, followed by Naseem Shah.

I haven't seen one fantasy team by any cricketer, which even had Imran Khan name in it but who are these ex-cricketers, Imran with 2-3 victories outside Asia is the greatest captain ever.

Scyld Berry, one of England's top cricket writers, put Imran as no.2 on his list behind Viv. Richie Benaud and Dickie Bird had him in their XIs. Wisden had him in their top ten cricketers of all time.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] wasn't even conceived in the 80s which is why he must resort to captain Kohli stats because he never witnessed IK play. Furthermore he reckons Dhoni is the better captain compared to IK because Dhoni has won everything.

Someone remind Mamoon that T20s didn't exist in the 70s, 80s, or even 90s.

Simple rule, any cricket talk by Mamoon pre 2000 is purley based on stats, and hatered, devoid of any context, cos he was born the year Pakistan won the WC. :)
 
LOL, every single list of greatest cricketers made by former greats and cricket pundits in the last 20 years has Sachin Tendulkar ahead of Imran Khan as a cricketer.
 
Sachin's international debut was actually playing with Pakistan (not India).

What a great cricketer IK was.

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/Sachin-Tendulkar-made-international-debut-for-Pakistan/articleshow/45077221.cms
 
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LOL, every single list of greatest cricketers made by former greats and cricket pundits in the last 20 years has Sachin Tendulkar ahead of Imran Khan as a cricketer.

Who are these and do they put Sachin at the top?
 
They put Sachin in the top 10, and much ahead of Imran Khan.

Who are these. Can you share 5?

(I’m not doubting they put him there. I didn’t even know a lot of ex cricketers have made such lists so curious to see)
 
There is a difference between a batsman and a cricketer.

Was Sachin a better batsman than IK? Yes. Was Sachin a better cricketer than IK? No.
 
Who are these. Can you share 5?

(I’m not doubting they put him there. I didn’t even know a lot of ex cricketers have made such lists so curious to see)

ESPN Legends of Cricket - Top 25 cricketers of all time (a list complied in 2001, when Sachin was just halfway through his career, and was yet rated ahead of Imran Khan. A list complied by 25 former greats of the game and cricket pundits) - http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ends-of-Cricket-Top-25-Cricketers-Of-All-Time

100 Greatest Cricketers by Benedict Bermange (Sky Sports) - http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Cricketers-by-Benedict-Bermange-(Sky-Sports)

David Gower's 50 greatest cricketers of all time - http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...id-Gower-s-50-Greatest-Cricketers-of-All-Time

Christopher Martin Jenkin's list of 100 greatest cricketers of all time - http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?89888-CMJ-Inzamam


Add to that, Wisden's All time XI, Cricinfo's All Time XI, Don Bradman's All Time XI, Tendulkar features in all of them,, but Imran Khan doesn't.
 
There is a difference between a batsman and a cricketer.

Was Sachin a better batsman than IK? Yes. Was Sachin a better cricketer than IK? No.

Tell that to those former greats and cricket pundits who place Sachin Tendulkar much higher than Imran Khan in their lists as a cricketer. Or are they under IPL's payroll as well? :))
 
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