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He is the best ODI batsman going around without a doubt. In T20's he is also one of the top batsman. And now that he has played one of the best innings of recent times in test cricket he has really elevated himself as a candidate for being the best all format batsman in the world.


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Personnaly, people here know the importance I give to test cricket for such discussions even when it about all formats. So I will still have Joe Root because of his extraordinary form in test cricket.
 
He should be in the top. He is just getting into his prime years. As the Big4 fade away he should be in the new Big4,3,2 whatever.
 
U$ofA said:
He should be in the top. He is just getting into his prime years. As the Big4 fade away he should be in the new Big4,3,2 whatever.
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I feel he is so unfortunate to miss out of playing ODI's in his prime years. ODI's look to be his best format and he was really getting in a different league but there are so few ODI's these days.
 
Can't think of more consistent batsman across the formats currently. An impactful test knock was missing in recent times and with this marathon knock of 196 helping his team achieve a draw just the knock in test cricket that allowed people to confidently call him the best all format batsman.

It used to be Kohli until couple of years ago and Babar was the only worthy heir of the tag of the best all format batsman but, his last test knock has put him right on the throne.
 
I think some Pakistani’s need to come out of the shell of insecurity and be proud of Babar and comfortable to say that yes hes the best all round Batsman across all formats in the world.
 
On current form, yes. But the best bowler across all formats is Bumrah.
 
Best player in all formats?? On what basis he has just scored a test hundred after 2 years although this was an ATG innings in recently concluded PSL he was extremely poor if you only count T20I's then again he had an average WT20 his best format is ODI where Pakistan haven't played any match since July maybe. So how exactly he's the best all format batter in the world right now?
 
ChTab said:
Best player in all formats?? On what basis he has just scored a test hundred after 2 years although this was an ATG innings in recently concluded PSL he was extremely poor if you only count T20I's then again he had an average WT20 his best format is ODI where Pakistan haven't played any match since July maybe. So how exactly he's the best all format batter in the world right now?
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Criticism is always welcome. But saying "he had an average WT20" when he was unanimously in the team of the competition is just pure hate.
 
ChTab said:
Best player in all formats?? On what basis he has just scored a test hundred after 2 years although this was an ATG innings in recently concluded PSL he was extremely poor if you only count T20I's then again he had an average WT20 his best format is ODI where Pakistan haven't played any match since July maybe. So how exactly he's the best all format batter in the world right now?
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Average of 58 in ODIs SR of 89
Average of 45 in test cricket
Average 45 in T20Is SR of 129

Combined average of 49 across the formats. Have centuries in all 3 formats.

Is there a batsman with better numbers across the formats? Virat is the only one with better combined average but, his form in last couple of years has not been great. While Virat is yet to score a T20I 100 but, If Virat was in his usual form, it would have been Virat however currently it has to be Babar.
 
Mobashir said:
I feel he is so unfortunate to miss out of playing ODI's in his prime years. ODI's look to be his best format and he was really getting in a different league but there are so few ODI's these days.
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You're talking as if he is nearing retirement and missed out during his prime :))

My views on Babar Azam have been consistent for several years now. I really enjoy watching him bat. But I can't see him as a great white ball player. There was one great over vs Boult in the WC and that's just not good enough. In T20s he professionally escorted India out of the Streak. But you need multiple iconic knocks across a career to be a great.

Babar is headed towards being the best Pakistani test batsman ever and potentially an ATG test batsman, no doubt.
 
pillionrider said:
You're talking as if he is nearing retirement and missed out during his prime :))

My views on Babar Azam have been consistent for several years now. I really enjoy watching him bat. But I can't see him as a great white ball player. There was one great over vs Boult in the WC and that's just not good enough. In T20s he professionally escorted India out of the Streak. But you need multiple iconic knocks across a career to be a great.

Babar is headed towards being the best Pakistani test batsman ever and potentially an ATG test batsman, no doubt.
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I think his recent series vs SA was pretty iconic which helped Pakistan win its 2nd ever ODI series in SA. Scored 228 runs in 3 match ODI series including a 100 against the likes of Rabada, Nortje, Ngidi in SA. Then carried on to score 210 runs in T20I series vs SA (Yes one can argue about the SA's depleted bowling attack but, still not easy at international level).

However, yes he needs more such series and knocks but considering he is 27 with 8-10 years left in him I am sure there are going to be many more iconic knocks from Babar.
 
Titan24 said:
I think his recent series vs SA was pretty iconic which helped Pakistan win its 2nd ever ODI series in SA. Scored 228 runs in 3 match ODI series including a 100 against the likes of Rabada, Nortje, Ngidi in SA. Then carried on to score 210 runs in T20I series vs SA (Yes one can argue about the SA's depleted bowling attack but, still not easy at international level).

However, yes he needs more such series and knocks but considering he is 27 with 8-10 years left in him I am sure there are going to be many more iconic knocks from Babar.
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Also had a 150+ in England next series and then no more ODI cricket.
 
Mobashir said:
Also had a 150+ in England next series and then no more ODI cricket.
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Yes, was a top knock (158 off 139 balls) with Pak making a total of 331 and he deserved to be on the winning side in that match but rest of the team let him down a bit I believe.
 
Yes, I would say. Who are the other best all-format batsman at the moment?

Rohit Sharma? Rishabh Pant? Mohammad Rizwan, David Warner?

I watch very few matches that Pakistan don't play so I don't know really
 
Imran Khan inspired a new generation of fast bowler and I'm sure Babar will inspire some badly needed good young batters for Pakistan , Abdullah is just a start, hopefully.

Babar did very well in Australia and he now needs to carry on his good form to other SENA countries to prove himself the best in the world. Root and Labuschagne are also world class but they are not good in all formats.
 
He played a great innings, but untill he is not consistent he cant be the best all round batsman.

LOIs hes great. But one test century after 2 years doesnt make him the best all around.
 
It is not always about centuries, to me Babar stood tall even in England Test series with a 50 and a gritty not out 60 when in the rain affected match Pakistan looked to be folding. It is very rare for Babar not to atleast play one significant knock in any format any series. Imagine if he had company of two or three world class batters in the same team to bat with how much more he would score in his own free flowing style, but unfortunately Pakistan only have declining batsmen or batsmen who are yet to establish themselves properly, with the exception of Rizwan who bats at lower end.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Yes, I would say. Who are the other best all-format batsman at the moment?

Rohit Sharma? Rishabh Pant? Mohammad Rizwan, David Warner?

I watch very few matches that Pakistan don't play so I don't know really
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Can’t take Rohit sharma there .. he is a late addition to test cricket and he is still struggling to play such inns

Centuries like Babar’s and the one Kohli had in Adelaide scored in 4th inns against quality bowling attacks in testing conditions sets them in different league.. sorry Rohit is not in that league yet.
 
Best all format batsmen top 5

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Jonny Bairstow
5. Babar Azam
 
Yeah comfortably babar is the best in the world right now.
Virat used to be the best but he has been struggling a lot now.
No one is close to babar now all formats combined except rizwan.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Yes, I would say. Who are the other best all-format batsman at the moment?

Rohit Sharma? Rishabh Pant? Mohammad Rizwan, David Warner?

I watch very few matches that Pakistan don't play so I don't know really
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Lol rishab patloon is not even good enough. He is an ipl star
 
If just being technical, Babar and Kane are THE best and most pleasing to the eyes batsmen as of now in all formats. If someone wants to be too harsh, there is literature available online to see the deficiencies of both bats who thrive under certain conditions. Hopefully, people would look above the stats to admire the aesthetics of batting from these two.
 
Yes he is, let's see for how long he can continue his purple patch. I also agree with little to no amount of ODI cricket, he is missing out on his favorite format.
 
CricVet said:
If just being technical, Babar and Kane are THE best and most pleasing to the eyes batsmen as of now in all formats. If someone wants to be too harsh, there is literature available online to see the deficiencies of both bats who thrive under certain conditions. Hopefully, people would look above the stats to admire the aesthetics of batting from these two.
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Can you post the literature please ?
 
Rana said:
Best all format batsmen top 5

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Jonny Bairstow
5. Babar Azam
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Bairstow mostly batted like a tail ender in tests until recently has average in 30s. Ken also has lower average then Babar in T20s and even strike rate is lower. Rohit has not been tested in Test matches yet.Warner can challange Babar if he does well in sub continent.
 
This is his first innings of note in tests for a long time. He has underwhelmed for far too long to be considered the best all around bat. Let him perform for a whole year in tests first.
 
Villager6964 said:
Yeah comfortably babar is the best in the world right now.
Virat used to be the best but he has been struggling a lot now.
No one is close to babar now all formats combined except rizwan.
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Babar has hardly any centuries outside of Asia? Hasn't even touched a test avg of 50 and just scored a century after almost 18 months. He is hardly the best all formats batsman.
 
PakPremi said:
Bairstow mostly batted like a tail ender in tests until recently has average in 30s. Ken also has lower average then Babar in T20s and even strike rate is lower. Rohit has not been tested in Test matches yet.Warner can challange Babar if he does well in sub continent.
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Rohit has not been tested in tests? And Babar has been? May be you can tell me about a few of his 100s outside pakistan?
 
I hate this across all formats thing. It’s trying to prove some kind of moral victory.

Something Tendulkar fans clutched on to when it was clear there contemporaries and historical batsmen who had better averages than him in tests. Same with ODIs. They were like errrr…..he is the best when you combine both….yup he’s not the best in either but over the two….that’s right over the two he’s the best.

Babar should aim to be the best he can be. End of. History will judge him later
 
Best all format batsmen top 6

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Devon Conway
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Babar Azam

Ben Stokes is potentially in there too
 
Rana said:
Best all format batsmen top 6

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Devon Conway
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Babar Azam

Ben Stokes is potentially in there too
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Hahha just because stokes played a good innings today? And Devon Conway? He hasnt even played a year international cricket.
 
topspin said:
Rohit only has 1 x test hundred outside India so you need to calm down.
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Technically Babar has two as UAE is technically or physically not a home ground,despite Pakistan being forced to use it to play their home matches due to security concerns in Pakistan.
 
Naveed99 said:
Hahha just because stokes played a good innings today? And Devon Conway? He hasnt even played a year international cricket.
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Great response Einstein. The question by OP asks “currently” who is the best All format batsman and not any specific time period besides this. So currently, Devon Conway is indeed one of the best 3 format batsmen and I think he is better than Babar.

Going by your logic Einstein, Babar has moved into contention for being the best in all three formats because of that one innings against Australia, so what’s your issue then with Stokes who has played similar, phenomenal innings in Tests and ODI for match winning causes?
 
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I ain't getting it. Some posters said Babar has been struggling in tests since last 2 years. He plays one good knock and we start calling him best all format player.

Shouldn't we wait for him to play some good knocks in tests consistently first?
 
Rana said:
Great response Einstein. The question by OP asks “currently” who is the best All format batsman and not any specific time period besides this. So currently, Devon Conway is indeed one of the best 3 format batsmen and I think he is better than Babar.

Going by your logic Einstein, Babar has moved into contention for being the best in all three formats because of that one innings against Australia, so what’s your issue then with Stokes who has played similar, phenomenal innings in Tests and ODI for match winning causes?
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Because stats dont lie. In your logic that means that Rizwan is also one of the best all format batsmen and why not put Root in it also.
Stats of Bairstow and Stokes doesnt even come close to Babar Azam or Roots.
 
Babar Azam played 12 matches in last 2 years and he was averaging 38 in 11 matches (til 1st test).

Then he played a great knock in last test.

Batting standards have to really low if batsman averaging in 30s for 2 years in test cricket is claimed to best batsman in world after 1 knock.
 
Best all format player means nothing. You would still pick different individual players for each format than have Babar.
 
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Concerned said:
Best all format player means nothing. You would still pick different individual players for each format than have Babar.
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It means players who are good in all formats.

However can't really place huge value on other formats if test returns are average for the player in current form.

All it means that Babar is probably best LOI batsman in world and that's also debatable.
 
He is simply awesome.
Best batsman in the world. Unmatchable in ODI'S.

May it long continue.
 
Rana said:
Best all format batsmen top 6

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Devon Conway
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Babar Azam

Ben Stokes is potentially in there too
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Babar still in your top 10?
 
Rana said:
Best all format batsmen top 5

1. David Warner
2. Kane Williamson
3. Rohit Sharma
4. Jonny Bairstow
5. Babar Azam
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Babar is the closest to number 1 in all formats. Kohli after him. That’s about it.

Easier to go in terms of formats

Tests - Marnus/Smith
ODI - Babar
T20 - Rizwan

Rohit is not even in any discussion. Except for Shaheen Afridis bunny.

Bairstow is like the 6th best player in his own team. Only Root is genuine world class for England in red ball and Buttler in white ball.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="sv" dir="ltr">Quickest to 16 ODI hundreds:<br><br>Babar Azam 84 innings<br>Hashim Amla 94 innings<br>Virat Kohli 110 innings<br>David Warner 110 innings<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1510314584141447169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2022</a></blockquote>
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In 12 knocks as Pakistan's ODI captain, Babar Azam has hit five hundreds and three half-centuries.
 
MenInG said:
In 12 knocks as Pakistan's ODI captain, Babar Azam has hit five hundreds and three half-centuries.
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I wonder where are the posters who like to write long posts about scoring runs as captain.

Babar is a fantastic batsman.
 
He currently is the best batsman in the world.

Any other opinion is just wrong.
 
mudz112 said:
Babar is the closest to number 1 in all formats. Kohli after him. That’s about it.

Easier to go in terms of formats

Tests - Marnus/Smith
ODI - Babar
T20 - Rizwan

Rohit is not even in any discussion. Except for Shaheen Afridis bunny.

Bairstow is like the 6th best player in his own team. Only Root is genuine world class for England in red ball and Buttler in white ball.
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Warner and Williamson are still better than him

Jo karna hai karlo
 
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Hes certainly elevating his batting and is arguably the best batter in the world

Id love pakistan cricket to play more tests so we can see this remarkable batsmen showcasing his talent in the best format more often
 
Rana said:
If I must between the two, yes I would
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Babar is a much better odi batter In tests you could argue warner is marginally ahead

As things stand currently babar over warner
 
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Some people will stay dumb and ignorant, dont response on them childish posters, who has personal agendas against certain players and like fat unfit players.

Babar is the best as simple as that!
 
He has proved himself as best.
Certainly will need few more test innings to prove it but for Odis and T20s he is.
 
Babar just proved that he is the best in world in all formats
There is no one near him all formats considered.
He had a wonderful test series and he had an amazing odi series.
He will do his job in t20is as well.
He is just the best.
 
Babar batted well in the Test series, well done after a long time. More like ‘it’s about time’.

Babar batted very well against a terrible Australian bowling attack.

When Babar dominates an Australian attack consisting of Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood with scoreboard pressure, we will see then if he really is as good as he is being made out to be all of a sudden.
 
Definitely best batter in the world in ODI's that average of 59 is simply unreal.

In tests he's not among the top 5 best batters in the world right now.
I'd say
Root
Labu
Smith
Warner
Dean

They all are ahead of Babar. Babar has only played only one marvelous innings in his test career so far.

Same goes for T20's he's not amongst the top 5 players in International T20'S at the moment.
Butler
Roy
Livingston
Warner
Rizwan
 
anikrc1 said:
So , the best batsman in the world has 1 century in 24 away tests ?
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He only matured as a test player later in his career, and as his 196 has shown he can play longer innings as well. And no one is saying he is best Test batsmen but all format.
 
PakPremi said:
He only matured as a test player later in his career, and as his 196 has shown he can play longer innings as well. And no one is saying he is best Test batsmen but all format.
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No one is saying? Isn’t that the purpose of this thread?
 
For what it's worth, it's fine to say babar is possibly the best odi batsman in the world. But the besi all format batsman need to be at least top 3 in tests. Babar averages 83 in Pakistan compared to 37 away. He will hardly make it into top 10 in tests
 
anikrc1 said:
For what it's worth, it's fine to say babar is possibly the best odi batsman in the world. But the besi all format batsman need to be at least top 3 in tests. Babar averages 83 in Pakistan compared to 37 away. He will hardly make it into top 10 in tests
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He is No 1 in ODI and T20, and no 5 in test. He doesnot have to be top 3 in all formats to be the best batsmen considering all format. He does need to improve his away performance in Tests.
 
He is the undisputed GOAT, Pak are mad to criticise him, praise him and support while you can because his style relies heavily on physical skills and sharp reflex’s which will decline rapidly - look at Kohli for example, it happens. Babar is doing a brilliant job right now
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar Azam's scores as Pakistan ODI captain:<br><br>19, 77*, 125, 103, 31, 94, 0, 19, 158, 57, 114, 105*<br><br>Innings 12<br>Runs 902<br>Average 90.20<br>Strike-rate 104.64<br>Hundreds 5<br>Fifties 3<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1510540857203736576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Rana said:
Babar batted well in the Test series, well done after a long time. More like ‘it’s about time’.

Babar batted very well against a terrible Australian bowling attack.

When Babar dominates an Australian attack consisting of Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood with scoreboard pressure, we will see then if he really is as good as he is being made out to be all of a sudden.
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Who is the benchmark. I mean show me the guys who dominated Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins with scorecard pressure.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar Azam's scores as Pakistan ODI captain:<br><br>19, 77*, 125, 103, 31, 94, 0, 19, 158, 57, 114, 105*<br><br>Innings 12<br>Runs 902<br>Average 90.20<br>Strike-rate 104.64<br>Hundreds 5<br>Fifties 3<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1510540857203736576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Babar not scoring a hundred seems like he has missed out these days.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Babar Azam's scores as Pakistan ODI captain:<br><br>19, 77*, 125, 103, 31, 94, 0, 19, 158, 57, 114, 105*<br><br>Innings 12<br>Runs 902<br>Average 90.20<br>Strike-rate 104.64<br>Hundreds 5<br>Fifties 3<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1510540857203736576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Stunning numbers , with the added burden to!
 
anikrc1 said:
Risabh pant, and proper domination, not just surviving, in their home no less.
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When you jump in a discussion, try at least to know they contest of the discussion.

This was about ODI's. Now try again.
 
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