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[VIDEOS] Is Babar Azam the best all format batter in the world currently?

Pujara and Kohli have played on either square turners in India or in SENA their records look bleak only because of that in recent times.
 
Every time this series when Pak have looked to Babar to strike a blow against Eng he has meekly succumbed.

Not traits of an alpha batter.
 
Every time this series when Pak have looked to Babar to strike a blow against Eng he has meekly succumbed.

Not traits of an alpha batter.
 
You have to feel sorry for Babar. He never asked to be overhyped or get compared to batsmen who are out of his league.

He is a good player who wants to do his best, but his fans have gone so overboard that Babar is now suffering because of their delusion.

You can overhype a player, but his performance will be there for everyone to see. He is a soft player & he will remain soft.

No one really learns to improve under pressure. You either have that mentality or you don’t. You are either clutch or you are not.

He is clearly not one of those players who can perform in pressure cooker situations.
 
Mamoon said:
You have to feel sorry for Babar. He never asked to be overhyped or get compared to batsmen who are out of his league.

He is a good player who wants to do his best, but his fans have gone so overboard that Babar is now suffering because of their delusion.

You can overhype a player, but his performance will be there for everyone to see. He is a soft player & he will remain soft.

No one really learns to improve under pressure. You either have that mentality or you don’t. You are either clutch or you are not.

He is clearly not one of those players who can perform in pressure cooker situations.
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Inzy, Javed are the only 2 clutch batsmen we have produced sadly. Moin and Afridi at times too.
 
Have just seen a clip of fans chanting 'ZimBabar ZimBabar' as he walks off after getting dismissed.

Even barmy army also trolling in twitter.
 
BA dismissal from today:

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Ollie Robinson v Babar Azam in this Test - 7 balls, 0 runs, stumps hit twice - is the first instance in men's Tests of a bowler bowling out the opposition number 3 in both innings without conceding a run.
 
Mamoon said:
You have to feel sorry for Babar. He never asked to be overhyped or get compared to batsmen who are out of his league.

He is a good player who wants to do his best, but his fans have gone so overboard that Babar is now suffering because of their delusion.

You can overhype a player, but his performance will be there for everyone to see. He is a soft player & he will remain soft.

No one really learns to improve under pressure. You either have that mentality or you don’t. You are either clutch or you are not.

He is clearly not one of those players who can perform in pressure cooker situations.
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His innings in Galle doesn't count?
 
I think the ball was too good. First innings was loose, but can't do much about the ball today.
Yes not played it great- but not sure he would have kept it out even if he had
 
Mamoon said:
There are 3-4 players like Babar in every top country, but they are not surrounded by minnow batsmen so they don’t get the opportunity to be in the limelight & given “king” status by their supporters.
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This is rubbish. It's easier to go hunting in packs.
If they are all that good- the ones not playing in the top 3 should have a great time- because the other batters have tired out the bowlers and then these great batsman can come and make runs.
But not many do make runs like babar has been.
It's much harder being the best in a poor team- cos the opposition knows that if you fail that is probably it. If he did have better players around him - babar would make even more runs!!
 
Example is Robinson in this innings- he's basically saved him for babar Azam.
Had there been 4 at his level in the line up that wouldn't be the case
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Runs against this SL side aren't enough to prove anything. No Murali, no Herath. Mediocre.
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Lol

It was a great innings if you had actually watched the match. Jayasuriya took 12 wickets against Australia in the previous test
 
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Abdullah said:
This is rubbish. It's easier to go hunting in packs.
If they are all that good- the ones not playing in the top 3 should have a great time- because the other batters have tired out the bowlers and then these great batsman can come and make runs.
But not many do make runs like babar has been.
It's much harder being the best in a poor team- cos the opposition knows that if you fail that is probably it. If he did have better players around him - babar would make even more runs!!
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If Babar played for India, England, Australia etc., he would not be opening in T20Is. As a result, he would not get the chance to score easy runs against second & third string attacks & get to the top of the rankings.

Similarly, he would have had a lot less matches under his belt across formats. He would not be a renowned name like he is today playing for Pakistan.

He has clearly benefited from the fact that Pakistan has terrible batsmen & there is no one to share the spotlight with him. He was given a long rope with no pressure on his shoulders to keep his place in the team because he had no competition.

Look at someone like Ishan Kishan who smashed a 200 against Bangladesh the other day. He knew it was his only shot, if he didn’t perform, he will be back on the sidelines for the next ODI assignment.

Babar has never had to deal with such pressure because of lack of competition. Playing with weak batsmen has its pros & cons.

The pros have been laid out above & the con is that your runs carry more weight because you know that if you don’t perform, your team is likely to crumble.

Babar does have this type of pressure on his shoulders & he is clearly not coping well considering the fact that he goes missing more often than not in crunch moments.
 
Mobashir said:
Ok, you nailed it. 2022 is the second year of the decade?
You have no credibility at all. Your understanding of numbers is the one of a 10 years old.
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Both 0 to 9 and 1 to 0 decades are commonly used. You should introspect a little before talking about him.
 
shah_1 said:
His innings in Galle doesn't count?
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Such innings are rare. Even the biggest bottlers play a tough innings every now & then but would go missing more often than not.

Babar is very much like Yousuf who was also soft, notwithstanding the fact that in spite of being soft, he played two outstanding knocks against India in Champions Trophy 2004 & 2009.
 
Mobashir said:
Ok, you nailed it. 2022 is the second year of the decade?
You have no credibility at all. Your understanding of numbers is the one of a 10 years old.
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topspin said:
I agree with your sentiments about Babar but bro 2022 is not the second year of the decade.

2020 - 1st
2021 - 2nd
2022 - 3rd
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jeeteshssaxena said:
You are right but the majority of 2020 was washed up by covid, there wasn't much cricket.
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Mobashir said:
After all he has an IQ of 150...
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Sachin136 said:
Both 0 to 9 and 1 to 0 decades are commonly used. You should introspect a little before talking about him.
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There was no year 0. The first decade of the Common Era (CE or AD) was years 1-10, the second decade was years 11 to 20 & therefore, this decade will be years 2021 to 2030.

Hence, it is wrong to assume that all calendar decades end with 0. They do not because the calendar did not start with 0. It started with 1, just like every month starts with 0 & not 1.

It is a common misconception based on poor understanding of the Gregorian calendar.
 
ex-q-zit said:
BA dismissal from today:

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Embarrassing to watch.
 
Even though Asad Safique is out of the test team and Azhar Ali appears to be on his way out too, Babar Azam is proudly carrying on their legacy of scoring impact less and soft runs. In both test matches, the softie went missing in the second innings, when we needed him the most.
 
Devadwal said:
test lost at home!

3 - Babar Azam in 2022
2 - Virat Kohli in his entire career
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Kohli is the greatest Asian Test captain of all time. Babar is probably among the worst, no comparison whatsoever.

The gap between Babar & Kohli as captains is as big as the gap between them as batsmen.
 
This is the third home series in the space of two years that the so-called “best batsman in the world” has failed to dominate.

South Africa 2021, he was rubbish.
Australia 22, one great innings but got outperformed by Usman Khawaja with ease & lost the series.

England 2022, an impact-less century & very ordinary apart from that. Got outperformed by numerous batsmen & lost the series.

I have never seen a “best batsman in the world” fail to dominate home Test series especially on very batting-friendly wickets.

Over the last two years, Babar has averaged 56 at home in spite of playing 90% of matches on highways.

During Kohli’s peak as Test batsman (2015 to 2019), he averaged 78 at home in spite of playing on turning wickets.

If peak Kohli was served the type of pitches Babar is getting, he would be averaging 100+ while Babar would barely average 40 on the pitches Kohli was playing his home Tests during his peak years.

You have to be absolute bonkers to compare Babar with Kohli & have the audacity to suggest that is better at 27-28 than Kohli was.

Babar never was & never will be half the player Kohli is.
 
Mamoon said:
This is the third home series in the space of two years that the so-called “best batsman in the world” has failed to dominate.

South Africa 2021, he was rubbish.
Australia 22, one great innings but got outperformed by Usman Khawaja with ease & lost the series.

England 2022, an impact-less century & very ordinary apart from that. Got outperformed by numerous batsmen & lost the series.

I have never seen a “best batsman in the world” fail to dominate home Test series especially on very batting-friendly wickets.

Over the last two years, Babar has averaged 56 at home in spite of playing 90% of matches on highways.

During Kohli’s peak as Test batsman (2015 to 2019), he averaged 78 at home in spite of playing on turning wickets.

If peak Kohli was served the type of pitches Babar is getting, he would be averaging 100+ while Babar would barely average 40 on the pitches Kohli was playing his home Tests during his peak years.

You have to be absolute bonkers to compare Babar with Kohli & have the audacity to suggest that is better at 27-28 than Kohli was.

Babar never was & never will be half the player Kohli is.
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Most posters agree that Babar is not comparable to Kohli. However, Babar definitely has a claim for World class elite league and is set to be the best Asian batsman across all formats since Kohli.
 
Mamoon said:
This is the third home series in the space of two years that the so-called “best batsman in the world” has failed to dominate.

South Africa 2021, he was rubbish.
Australia 22, one great innings but got outperformed by Usman Khawaja with ease & lost the series.

England 2022, an impact-less century & very ordinary apart from that. Got outperformed by numerous batsmen & lost the series.

I have never seen a “best batsman in the world” fail to dominate home Test series especially on very batting-friendly wickets.

Over the last two years, Babar has averaged 56 at home in spite of playing 90% of matches on highways.

During Kohli’s peak as Test batsman (2015 to 2019), he averaged 78 at home in spite of playing on turning wickets.

If peak Kohli was served the type of pitches Babar is getting, he would be averaging 100+ while Babar would barely average 40 on the pitches Kohli was playing his home Tests during his peak years.

You have to be absolute bonkers to compare Babar with Kohli & have the audacity to suggest that is better at 27-28 than Kohli was.

Babar never was & never will be half the player Kohli is.
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Wrong thread !
Posting out of topic is your speciality ?
 
The losses are there and our team isn't good enough to compete with England with this bowling attack.

As a Batsman, Babar has score à hundred and a very good fifty. Actually the fifty was better than the hundred.
He should have performed better in this innings but recieved an unplayable ball that hit a crack.

He is doing fine as a batsman and is still the best or at least top two with Root and Maybe Smith.
 
Babar is a potential great batsman but only by Pakistani standards. He cannot match legends like Sachin, Kohli, Smith, Williamson, Root etc
 
Mamoon said:
This is the third home series in the space of two years that the so-called “best batsman in the world” has failed to dominate.

South Africa 2021, he was rubbish.
Australia 22, one great innings but got outperformed by Usman Khawaja with ease & lost the series.

England 2022, an impact-less century & very ordinary apart from that. Got outperformed by numerous batsmen & lost the series.

I have never seen a “best batsman in the world” fail to dominate home Test series especially on very batting-friendly wickets.

Over the last two years, Babar has averaged 56 at home in spite of playing 90% of matches on highways.

During Kohli’s peak as Test batsman (2015 to 2019), he averaged 78 at home in spite of playing on turning wickets.

If peak Kohli was served the type of pitches Babar is getting, he would be averaging 100+ while Babar would barely average 40 on the pitches Kohli was playing his home Tests during his peak years.

You have to be absolute bonkers to compare Babar with Kohli & have the audacity to suggest that is better at 27-28 than Kohli was.

Babar never was & never will be half the player Kohli is.
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In tests, Babar may yet reach Kohli's overall level considering that Kohli started declining quite early.

He can never match peak Kohli in white ball formats though . Bobby is not that impactful a batter.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
In tests, Babar may yet reach Kohli's overall level considering that Kohli started declining quite early.

He can never match peak Kohli in white ball formats though . Bobby is not that impactful a batter.
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Babar is at least 3-4 years behind Kohli. He is at the same age as Kohli was in 2017 (absolute peak of his powers as a player) but he is more like 2013-14 Kohli as a Test player.

So the conclusion is that he is no match for Kohli, he just doesn’t have the natural ability, the skill level & the mental sharpness.

He is a Inzamam, Yousuf type player. Kohli is a league above.
 
Mobashir said:
The losses are there and our team isn't good enough to compete with England with this bowling attack.

As a Batsman, Babar has score à hundred and a very good fifty. Actually the fifty was better than the hundred.
He should have performed better in this innings but recieved an unplayable ball that hit a crack.

He is doing fine as a batsman and is still the best or at least top two with Root and Maybe Smith.
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In both Tests, England gave Pakistan a very big window of opportunity to win. First Test, risky declaration. Second Test, terrible collapse in the second innings.

Great batsman seize such big opportunities & capitalize on them specially when they are playing at home.

First Test, England win by 74 runs & Babar scored 4.

Second Test, England win by 26 runs & Babar scored 1.

So it is not just the bowlers but Mr. Best in the world is equally responsible for Pakistan being 2-0 down with a Test to go.

In spite of the same bowling performances, Pakistan could have been 2-0 up if Mr. Best in the world had even scored 30-40 only in the second innings of both Tests.

Mr. Best in the world’s is averaging 2.50 in the second innings in this series & that is as big a reason for Pakistan being 2-0 down as any other.
 
Pollack said:
Babar is a potential great batsman but only by Pakistani standards. He cannot match legends like Sachin, Kohli, Smith, Williamson, Root etc
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Everyone can't be Sachin, Kohli, Smith, Williamson, Root etc. Nothing wrong in that.

Babar can still do well for Pakistan.
 
Not all good batsmen can became great leaders. Pakistan needs Babar the batsman not the captain.
 
To be a great batter, numbers are important. But they are not be all and end all.

All Great batters have a list of statement making inns that announce to opposition and cricketing world their stature. These are match, innings, series sometimes even epoch defining knocks

After 44 Tests, Babar's statement inns are as follows
1) 196 at Karachi,
2) a couple of suave 70s against SA in SA
3)100+97 against Aus in Aus
4) 119 against SL in Galle out of 244 in first inns

All these confirm his batting skill as well above mere good but to be a great, the bar is higher. All too often Babar has gone missing in 4th inns of a high chase attempt (today and Galle) or shrunk from attempting a record chase (Karachi).


For context, after 44 Tests below is performance of the big 4:

1) King Kohli had made 4x4 hundreds in Aus, 119+96 against S+M+P in SA in same game and was enroute to thrashing Eng at home single handedly as captain with 600+ series to make up for his biggest individual failure series. He was also moving his avg from 45 to 55 level

2) Joe root had an Ashes match winning 180 at home, although he failed in away leg in 2013. He dominated a home summer in 2014 against India and SL averaging nearly 100.
In 2015 he made 98 and 84 in a come from behind win at lords against NZ and also scored 2 home ashes hundreds.
In 2016 he made 73+24 and 110+4* in 2 wins against SA in SA and in his 44th test he made a 254 against Pak at home.

3) Steve Smith started slow but made decent scores (90 in India) and 40+ away Ashes avg with century in 2013. He destroyed India at home in 2014 with 700+ series and in 2015 he made 215+143 in the only 2 tests that Aus won in away Ashes.

4) Kane Williamson record is similiar to Babar with slightly sub 50 avg. His few statement inns were mainly support/soft stuff like century against India away, 192 in win against Pak in Sharjah, 166 against Aus in Perth. One highlight inns was 102 against peak Morkel at home.

It may be that Babar will mature late and level up like Younis did but honestly he seems to be only a pretty accumulator and not an impact batter so far. A slightly better version of Ian Bell is what his career looks like till date.
 
pratiktc said:
To be a great batter, numbers are important. But they are not be all and end all.

All Great batters have a list of statement making inns that announce to opposition and cricketing world their stature. These are match, innings, series sometimes even epoch defining knocks

After 44 Tests, Babar's statement inns are as follows
1) 196 at Karachi,
2) a couple of suave 70s against SA in SA
3)100+97 against Aus in Aus
4) 119 against SL in Galle out of 244 in first inns

All these confirm his batting skill as well above mere good but to be a great, the bar is higher. All too often Babar has gone missing in 4th inns of a high chase attempt (today and Galle) or shrunk from attempting a record chase (Karachi).


For context, after 44 Tests below is performance of the big 4:

1) King Kohli had made 4x4 hundreds in Aus, 119+96 against S+M+P in SA in same game and was enroute to thrashing Eng at home single handedly as captain with 600+ series to make up for his biggest individual failure series. He was also moving his avg from 45 to 55 level

2) Joe root had an Ashes match winning 180 at home, although he failed in away leg in 2013. He dominated a home summer in 2014 against India and SL averaging nearly 100.
In 2015 he made 98 and 84 in a come from behind win at lords against NZ and also scored 2 home ashes hundreds.
In 2016 he made 73+24 and 110+4* in 2 wins against SA in SA and in his 44th test he made a 254 against Pak at home.

3) Steve Smith started slow but made decent scores (90 in India) and 40+ away Ashes avg with century in 2013. He destroyed India at home in 2014 with 700+ series and in 2015 he made 215+143 in the only 2 tests that Aus won in away Ashes.

4) Kane Williamson record is similiar to Babar with slightly sub 50 avg. His few statement inns were mainly support/soft stuff like century against India away, 192 in win against Pak in Sharjah, 166 against Aus in Perth. One highlight inns was 102 against peak Morkel at home.

It may be that Babar will mature late and level up like Younis did but honestly he seems to be only a pretty accumulator and not an impact batter so far. A slightly better version of Ian Bell is what his career looks like till date.
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Bhuvenshwar exposed him on bouncers in UAE, Mark Wood and Ben Stokes in Pakistan, Farooqi, Arshdeep, Olie Robinson exposed him against the inswinging ball, Hasaranga, Adil Rasheed have exposed him against googlies, Mahraj exposed him by continuously trapped him lbw in Pakistan.

Someone really needs to give Babar some serious tough love about how badly he has regressed and not taken his game to the next level in all formats.

He is also not a helpless captain, he is a powerful captain and him and Rizwan dominate decisions on the squad of 15 and the playing eleven. Enough said about his captaincy the better.
 
Savak said:
Bhuvenshwar exposed him on bouncers in UAE, Mark Wood and Ben Stokes in Pakistan, Farooqi, Arshdeep, Olie Robinson exposed him against the inswinging ball, Hasaranga, Adil Rasheed have exposed him against googlies, Mahraj exposed him by continuously trapped him lbw in Pakistan.

Someone really needs to give Babar some serious tough love about how badly he has regressed and not taken his game to the next level in all formats.

He is also not a helpless captain, he is a powerful captain and him and Rizwan dominate decisions on the squad of 15 and the playing eleven. Enough said about his captaincy the better.
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I agree, Babar is regressing as a batsman which is a surprise considering he should be hitting his peak now (he is now the same age as Kohli in 2017 & that was peak destructive Kohli across all formats). The captaincy surely is weighing on him - not everybody is a born leader & i dont think he is mentally strong enough to handle the simultaneous pressure of being the captain & also the marquee batsman of the team. However are Babar & the management mature enough to realise that he is not cut out for captaincy without taking this as an insult?
 
Savak said:
Bhuvenshwar exposed him on bouncers in UAE, Mark Wood and Ben Stokes in Pakistan, Farooqi, Arshdeep, Olie Robinson exposed him against the inswinging ball, Hasaranga, Adil Rasheed have exposed him against googlies, Mahraj exposed him by continuously trapped him lbw in Pakistan.

Someone really needs to give Babar some serious tough love about how badly he has regressed and not taken his game to the next level in all formats.

He is also not a helpless captain, he is a powerful captain and him and Rizwan dominate decisions on the squad of 15 and the playing eleven. Enough said about his captaincy the better.
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Yep every dismissal of him is being exposed.
Reading your post makes me think he can't play any kind of balls.
Bouncer- can't play.
Inswing- can't play.
Googly- can't play.
Left arm spi'- can't play.

Actually he can't play anything you serve at him. I hope opposing teams read your postes because you know every way to get him out cheaply.
 
Babar is still a very talented batsman but he really need to score a few daddy 100s in SA, AUS etc. Does he have any 100s in Eng ?
 
Babar Azam is a very popular cricketer and plays for the 2nd most cricket crazy country in the world which elevates his status. As a test batsman, he is is way behind in even being considered a Pakistani ATG at this point.

In T20 he is definitely a very good player to have even though he is not going to be the first player people look for when building out a T20 team, he can definitely be a 2nd tier great in that format at the end of his career because of the runs he scores.

In ODI’s he is elite. He can be considered a fab 5 player.
 
Mamoon said:
You have to feel sorry for Babar. He never asked to be overhyped or get compared to batsmen who are out of his league.

He is a good player who wants to do his best, but his fans have gone so overboard that Babar is now suffering because of their delusion.

You can overhype a player, but his performance will be there for everyone to see. He is a soft player & he will remain soft.

No one really learns to improve under pressure. You either have that mentality or you don’t. You are either clutch or you are not.

He is clearly not one of those players who can perform in pressure cooker situations.
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How many runs your Hard Player Kohli has in knockout matches. He played WTC final last year. What were his scores?
 
dildilpak said:
I agree, Babar is regressing as a batsman which is a surprise considering he should be hitting his peak now (he is now the same age as Kohli in 2017 & that was peak destructive Kohli across all formats). The captaincy surely is weighing on him - not everybody is a born leader & i dont think he is mentally strong enough to handle the simultaneous pressure of being the captain & also the marquee batsman of the team. However are Babar & the management mature enough to realise that he is not cut out for captaincy without taking this as an insult?
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Regressing as a batsman? The guy has most runs in 2022 and no one is even close. He has 7 tons this year and no one is even close? What channel do you watch cricket on?
 
He is doing good in all formats..I see unnecessary criticism for him. Ofcourse it is also down to certain folks unnecessarily comparing him with Kohli based on last 2-3 years performance but that is just a pointless and time wasting discussion.

Comparisons with Fab Four is simply not relevant now as he hasn't even played half the test matches they have played. Root was in similar mould till 2020(age 29 then) but one absolute peak year and he is in league of ATGs. That is all Babar would need.
 
heddie19 said:
Regressing as a batsman? The guy has most runs in 2022 and no one is even close. He has 7 tons this year and no one is even close? What channel do you watch cricket on?
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That’s just called stat padding - scoring runs on flattest of flat roads or against low ranked opponents. You should also look at how he is getting dismissed, how he is performing on wickets which has something in them or how he is performing while chasing.

If inflated stats is all you guys are interested in, you will get wickets like Rawalpindi. Simple as that.
 
dildilpak said:
That’s just called stat padding - scoring runs on flattest of flat roads or against low ranked opponents. You should also look at how he is getting dismissed, how he is performing on wickets which has something in them or how he is performing while chasing.

If inflated stats is all you guys are interested in, you will get wickets like Rawalpindi. Simple as that.
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Do you know that Babar has a better test avg on hard pitches than Kohli. Follow cricviz on twitter.

Secondly, even if I assume that he is scoring flat tracks, aren't other batter of the worlds getting the flat tracks too?

Wasn't the pindi wicket same for Root as it was for Babar?
 
heddie19 said:
Do you know that Babar has a better test avg on hard pitches than Kohli. Follow cricviz on twitter.

Secondly, even if I assume that he is scoring flat tracks, aren't other batter of the worlds getting the flat tracks too?

Wasn't the pindi wicket same for Root as it was for Babar?
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Don't tell us about some random fictious numbers without any proof.
No one knows their model on what basis they are giving ratings. They have their own theory.

Lot of stats providers are available these days with their own theories and some imaginary ratings/numbers.
 
Ab Fan said:
He is doing good in all formats..I see unnecessary criticism for him. Ofcourse it is also down to certain folks unnecessarily comparing him with Kohli based on last 2-3 years performance but that is just a pointless and time wasting discussion.

Comparisons with Fab Four is simply not relevant now as he hasn't even played half the test matches they have played. Root was in similar mould till 2020(age 29 then) but one absolute peak year and he is in league of ATGs. That is all Babar would need.
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Babar needs to score big hundreds instead of fancy 50s
 
Babar is great to watch in full flow, but that’s about it. He has rarely stepped up when the team needs him to perform. The one innings Vs Australia was only because that was the flattest of flat tracks.

In this game, a bit of reverse swing and he couldn’t judge where his off stump was.

I’m sorry, this man is just soft.
 
TheSultan said:
Babar is great to watch in full flow, but that’s about it. He has rarely stepped up when the team needs him to perform. The one innings Vs Australia was only because that was the flattest of flat tracks.

In this game, a bit of reverse swing and he couldn’t judge where his off stump was.

I’m sorry, this man is just soft.
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Doesn't matter if the track was flat or not. Pakistan needed him to save the match and he did just that. If he had failed, people would be talking about how they are talking about him now more than the actual track. In general though right now, yes I agree he is a soft player. Minus his 196, he hasn't scored impactful test runs vs the big boys nor big hundreds against them as well. Like with all touted Pakistani batsmen these days, it still will come down to how they fare in Australia, England, SA, NZ, etc.
 
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most 50+ scores for Pakistan in international cricket;<br><br>Inzamam-ul-Haq 164 (547 innings)<br>Mohammad Yousuf 134 (426 innings)<br>Younis Khan 124 (491 innings)<br>Javed Miandad 124 (407 innings)<br>Babar Azam 104 (264 innings)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1604042719193604096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Babar is Pakistan's best batter of all time by some distance
 
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Sunny_majoka said:
Babar is Pakistan's best batter of all time by some distance
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Which says more about Pakistan’s embarrassing batting culture than Babar’s brilliance.

Babar is just a very good batsman by international standards, but 99% of Pakistani batsmen are pathetic by international standards.
 
Babar is going through same phase as Root went in his mid-20s. Fluent 50s but struggling to dominate.
 
Played a match winning knock today.
No other player comes close to being the best all format batter right now. :inti
 
MenInG said:
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Very poor Both were at fault Salman calling for a tight single in a test Whats the need? Its not a limited overs game and babar also was on his heels there dozing and was late to set off Where was the dive?

Poor poor cricket once again from pakistan
 
Babar sadly is another stats peddler, not demeaning him but will take Alistair Cook Graeme Smith Kumar Sangakarra over him, Kohli is a different league :undertaker
 
Kianig89 said:
Babar sadly is another stats peddler, not demeaning him but will take Alistair Cook Graeme Smith Kumar Sangakarra over him, Kohli is a different league :undertaker
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Cook Smith And Sanga have retired and not pakistanis so unfortunately we cant take them over babar

Babar is a quality bat and we need to learn to be happy with what we have in him rather than comparing him stupidly witb bradman and co It serves no purpose than put him down
 
Another hundred opportunity missed. Now go watch him flop in the second innings like he has done in the whole series.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most 50+ scores for Pakistan in international cricket;<br><br>Inzamam-ul-Haq 164 (547 innings)<br>Mohammad Yousuf 134 (426 innings)<br>Younis Khan 124 (491 innings)<br>Javed Miandad 124 (407 innings)<br>Babar Azam 104 (264 innings)<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1604042719193604096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Perfect example of why one should never take stats at face value. I would take Inzamam or Maindad over Babar any day of the week. I would also take Younas over Babar in tests. And I would also take 2006 Yousaf over any version of Babar.
 
The_KING said:
Perfect example of why one should never take stats at face value. I would take Inzamam or Maindad over Babar any day of the week. I would also take Younas over Babar in tests. And I would also take 2006 Yousaf over any version of Babar.
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I won't take any of them over babar in all-format or White ball,
Tests, yes. Babar has to reach his test peak yet.
 
Zaz said:
Cook Smith And Sanga have retired and not pakistanis so unfortunately we cant take them over babar

Babar is a quality bat and we need to learn to be happy with what we have in him rather than comparing him stupidly witb bradman and co It serves no purpose than put him down
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there is always a benchmark to look at, sports is not subjective. Babar is scoring runs but it has not helped us anything meaningful in Test cricket. Your opinions are like Pakistan selectors, chest thumping
 
Babar is off the field at the moment - not clear why but is not feeling well.
 
Mamoon said:
Which says more about Pakistan’s embarrassing batting culture than Babar’s brilliance.

Babar is just a very good batsman by international standards, but 99% of Pakistani batsmen are pathetic by international standards.
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Embarrassing indeed, every time I check Pakistan's all time Batting stats, and see the likes of of Afridi, Malik, hafeez in top 10, it looks embarrassing
 
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