[VIDEOS] Is Babar Azam the best all format batter in the world currently?

[Farabi]

As usual, you were nowhere to be found when the England series was going on. Perhaps you were waiting to bump your fluke thread” this Pakistan team will surprise the world” but too bad, you didn’t get an opportunity.

England opened the door for Pakistan in all three Tests & Babar shut the down in all three Tests on his own team because he bottled it.

If Babar stood up against England Pakistan could have won the series. Instead, he batted like a tail-ender in the second innings in the first two Tests & also failed to produce a substantial knock in the third Test.

Good innings today, but it is the least you would expect from a batsman who is hyped up as the best in the world.

He has failed to make an impact in three consecutive home series. If he has a big series vs New Zealand, so what? It is his job.

Again, please keep the dumb Kohli comparisons at bay. Kohli is a far superior batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced. Kohli at 27-28 was a far superior batsman than what Babar is today.

Babar only has 1 Test century outside Asia in 22 attempts. By the time Kohli was 27-28, he had more Test centuries overseas than Babar has total centuries.

Babar never was & never will be as good as Kohli. Please accept that & let Babar be. He is a good player & he doesn’t have to be compared to a far greater player. It only attracts unwarranted criticism.

Kohli is on his last legs, he has had a tremendous career & he is clearly past his best. He has struggled in the last 3 years but every great player has struggled at the end of their careers & that is why they retire.

Younis Khan was a better Test batsman than Ricky Ponting over the latter’s last 2-3 years of his career but it doesn’t mean Younis Khan was a better batsman.

Many decent/good players are better than legendary players when the legendary players are about to hang their boots. It doesn’t mean anything.

As far as Kohli’s struggles in Tests are concerned, maybe BCCI should agree to play a series with Pakistan. No matter the current form & the conditions, Pakistani bowlers will always find a way to bow down to the king.

Babar averaged 53 vs Eng in the recent test series, which you are calling a failure by his standards. This, itself says a lot about how highly you rate him. Obviously a test series is won by 1 player and other batsmen and bowlers are there to make up the numbers.

Also, statistically speaking, Babar’s average is more than Kohli’s in SENA. No of centuries is a distorted metric because 1) Kohli had played more tests by 27 and 2) it doesn’t include impactful 50s and 90s.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Have higher standards. Inzy, Anwar, YK are echelons above. Until he wins Pakistan a series in SENA and a WC he's overrated.

What SENA series did inzi win us or Anwar or YK? Besides the 92 WC knocks when no one knew Inzi what else he do in WCs? He couldn’t put bat on ball against warne from what I can remember

YKs ODI record is criminal. He isn’t even in the all format batter conversation.

 

[Sachin136]

Also, statistically speaking, Babar’s average is more than Kohli’s in SENA. No of centuries is a distorted metric because 1) Kohli had played more tests by 27 and 2) it doesn’t include impactful 50s and 90s.

Everything here is factually wrong. Kohli's average in SENA is 44 and Babar's average is 39.

When he was 28, Kohli had played just two more tests outside Asia than Babar (24 v 22) but had 7 more centuries (8 v 1). And Babar has won only one match in SENA (Lord's 2018), so I'm not sure how impactful his 50s were.

 

[kumjsr]

Babar averaged 53 vs Eng in the recent test series, which you are calling a failure by his standards. This, itself says a lot about how highly you rate him. Obviously a test series is won by 1 player and other batsmen and bowlers are there to make up the numbers.

1 player can't win the series.

Pakistan just needed to survive 10 mins to draw first game and guess who among top 9 survived least number of balls in 4th inning?

Naseem Shah blocked 46 deliveries, Zahid 21 deliveries, Mohammed Ali 26 deliveries.

Pakistan lost 2nd test by 26 runs and only player among top 9 got out in single digit score in 2nd inning. Guess who was the player? 2nd lowest score among top 9 was 17.

Shaud Shakil and Imam averaged 57 in the series, so some batsmen provided equal support.

Bowlers lost the series, batsmen could have saved it.

 

[Ab Fan]

His individual batting performance was pretty good even in the Eng series....yeah he should have gotten bigger scores but it wasn't a poor series by any stretch of imagination.

The guy has performed throughout the year with 4 100s and 7 50s out of 16 inngs in 2022 so far.

Scoring fifties on flat pitches in home conditions is not good by any stretch of imagination especially when the opposition player is hitting hundred and winning the game by snatching it from you in front of your eyes. Three times Pakistan and Babar had the chance to change the game on its head and he failed to do that all the three times.

Top players would take the game away atleast in home conditions 80% of the times. Babar has done it like once in Australia, zero times in England and maybe yesterday in New Zealand. There is nothing positive to take from a home series whitewash, it is more embarrassing than anything else could be.

 

[Ab Fan]

As usual, you were nowhere to be found when the England series was going on. Perhaps you were waiting to bump your fluke thread” this Pakistan team will surprise the world” but too bad, you didn’t get an opportunity.

England opened the door for Pakistan in all three Tests & Babar shut the down in all three Tests on his own team because he bottled it.

If Babar stood up against England Pakistan could have won the series. Instead, he batted like a tail-ender in the second innings in the first two Tests & also failed to produce a substantial knock in the third Test.

Good innings today, but it is the least you would expect from a batsman who is hyped up as the best in the world.

He has failed to make an impact in three consecutive home series. If he has a big series vs New Zealand, so what? It is his job.

Again, please keep the dumb Kohli comparisons at bay. Kohli is a far superior batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced. Kohli at 27-28 was a far superior batsman than what Babar is today.

Babar only has 1 Test century outside Asia in 22 attempts. By the time Kohli was 27-28, he had more Test centuries overseas than Babar has total centuries.

Babar never was & never will be as good as Kohli. Please accept that & let Babar be. He is a good player & he doesn’t have to be compared to a far greater player. It only attracts unwarranted criticism.

Kohli is on his last legs, he has had a tremendous career & he is clearly past his best. He has struggled in the last 3 years but every great player has struggled at the end of their careers & that is why they retire.

Younis Khan was a better Test batsman than Ricky Ponting over the latter’s last 2-3 years of his career but it doesn’t mean Younis Khan was a better batsman.

Many decent/good players are better than legendary players when the legendary players are about to hang their boots. It doesn’t mean anything.

As far as Kohli’s struggles in Tests are concerned, maybe BCCI should agree to play a series with Pakistan. No matter the current form & the conditions, Pakistani bowlers will always find a way to bow down to the king.

When Kohli played at home around 2016 and 2017, he hit double hundreds for fun vs England, New Zealand and Sri Lanka. He also hit another double hundred vs SA in 2019 and dominated them overseas too.

Babar, in contrast, hits fifties overseas and even at home when England toured, all he did was hit fifties and let the opposition batsman take the game away on its head. As of now, Babar in his whole home season has a match saving 196 vs Australia and a knock today against a well past its prime NZ side on a flat pitch to show. I don't know what is there to whine about this considering that just a couple of weeks ago, they were coming from a home series whitewash vs England 0-3.

 

[Mobashir]

Sadly you don't realise you have to score when the team needs it. 99% of Babar rums are impactless.

Where does this number come from ? Prove it...

 

[cricketjoshila]

The man has 1 century outside Asia. Scoring runs on placid home pitches doesn't make anyone the best in the world.

 

[Kianig89]

definitely Pakistan's most consistent since YK & Inzi

 

[Mobashir]

Everything here is factually wrong. Kohli's average in SENA is 44 and Babar's average is 39.

When he was 28, Kohli had played just two more tests outside Asia than Babar (24 v 22) but had 7 more centuries (8 v 1). And Babar has won only one match in SENA (Lord's 2018), so I'm not sure how impactful his 50s were.

And you really think that your post has something to do with this thread?
If you have any better batsman going around tell us, otherwise admit that Babar is the undisputed king of batting these days.

 

[Mobashir]

The man has 1 century outside Asia. Scoring runs on placid home pitches doesn't make anyone the best in the world.

So who is the best in the world?

 

[Tabishbeigh]

Scoring soft inconsequential runs like kallis , Does make you a prolific run scorer but not thé best. Apart from that 100 against Australia , which other innings of his has had some bearing on a test match. Kohli may have declined but one must admit he has taken the definition of best in the world to an unprecedented level.

 

[kumjsr]

So who is the best in the world?

Expect him to ignore this question.

While Babar is overhyped on PP, he is best all format batsman in world.

Same goes for other posters like Mamoon, who won't answer who is better.

 

[Mean&Green]

The man has 1 century outside Asia. Scoring runs on placid home pitches doesn't make anyone the best in the world.

No one comes close to him at the moment Odis or tests regardless of where you score runs are runs so yes he is easily the best all format batsman in the world right now. If you only counted the runs of the man in your profile picture outside of India he wouldn’t be a great either.

 

[The lone Ranger]

NZ players keep dropping his catches and he makes him pay for it everytime like in 2019 WC league match, 2022 tri series, 2022 WC SF and now.

Though it was a decent knock on a placid home pitch after losing two back to back home series, he needs to improve on his ability to continue from where he left off on previous day score.

 

[The lone Ranger]

Babar averaged 53 vs Eng in the recent test series, which you are calling a failure by his standards. This, itself says a lot about how highly you rate him. Obviously a test series is won by 1 player and other batsmen and bowlers are there to make up the numbers.

Also, statistically speaking, Babar’s average is more than Kohli’s in SENA. No of centuries is a distorted metric because 1) Kohli had played more tests by 27 and 2) it doesn’t include impactful 50s and 90s.

No, he didn't call his 53 avg a failure but soft runs. Even if he had only averaged 40 in that series with scoring important runs in the fourth inning when his team needed him the most in all three tests , they would have been impactful and everyone would have rated him higher.

 

[Mobashir]

England's bowling attack, Ben Stokes captaincy, field placings put him in a fox. NZ bowling attack and field placings did not pose much challenge.

This guy got owned by Ollie Robinson in the last series and he went missing when Pakistan desperately needed big match winning daddy hundreds, double hundreds from him.

Strange that he was Still the third top run scorer and that too with a SR of nearly 70.
Reading your post makes it look he scored 120 runs in 6 innings.
You are a testified hater.

 

[kumjsr]

No one comes close to him at the moment Odis or tests regardless of where you score runs are runs so yes he is easily the best all format batsman in the world right now. If you only counted the runs of the man in your profile picture outside of India he wouldn’t be a great either.

No one comes close to him in tests?

That's an exaggeration.

He just had a good year, otherwise he has been just a decent batsman in tests.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Strange that he was Still the third top run scorer and that too with a SR of nearly 70.
Reading your post makes it look he scored 120 runs in 6 innings.
You are a testified hater.

Third higest scorer by scoring soft runs when conditions are easy peasy.
His second innings average is 17 when it matters, worse than Salman guy..

 

[jnaveen1980]

No one comes close to him in tests?

That's an exaggeration.

He just had a good year, otherwise he has been just a decent batsman in tests.

If we go by average Chandimal would b e the best. But personally 2022 belongs to Bairstow. Involved in some unreal 4th innings chases, Bailing the side out many times from losing situations and putting their side in winning situation. Averaging 94 in winning matches at at strike rate of 98. 663 runs in 5 winning tests.

 

[Mean&Green]

No one comes close to him in tests?

That's an exaggeration.

He just had a good year, otherwise he has been just a decent batsman in tests.

Formats combined the title of the thread is all format so yes nobody does a year is enough if you’re talking about “currently” Kohli and Rohit are done and dusted no Indian batsmen comes close by a mile not even in the picture if anyone it could be marnus and root started well but he failed miserably in the latter half of the year so yes Babar is way ahead overall.

 

[Mobashir]

Third higest scorer by scoring soft runs when conditions are easy peasy.
His second innings average is 17 when it matters, worse than Salman guy..

Witch of his first innings was not important?

 

[jnaveen1980]

No one comes close to him in tests?

That's an exaggeration.

He just had a good year, otherwise he has been just a decent batsman in tests.

He will get better hopefully for Pakistan. Man of the match/series awards this will go up as he plays better and better. The fab 4 were comparable because they won matches / series for their sides

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Witch of his first innings was not important?

All innings.
Pakistani pitches are world best flat tracks, these soft runs are just for stat padding and have no credibility unless you win the match.

Brook and Duckett shown how to play when it matters on second innings where pitch is doing something.

At least England played with mani bowlers on flat roads, here Nz are missing Boult and Jamieson... Good for Babar fans.

 

[Ashmal]

1 player can't win the series.

Pakistan just needed to survive 10 mins to draw first game and guess who among top 9 survived least number of balls in 4th inning?

Naseem Shah blocked 46 deliveries, Zahid 21 deliveries, Mohammed Ali 26 deliveries.

Pakistan lost 2nd test by 26 runs and only player among top 9 got out in single digit score in 2nd inning. Guess who was the player? 2nd lowest score among top 9 was 17.

Shaud Shakil and Imam averaged 57 in the series, so some batsmen provided equal support.

Bowlers lost the series, batsmen could have saved it.

So you expect Babar to score in every inngs.....he did get 70+ in 3/6 inngs.

You're conveniently cherry-picking the instances where he got out early.

Yes, he could've done better by converting those 70s to 100s but it wasn't a failure in any way.

 

[Ashmal]

Haters can whine and moan all they want.

But, deep down everyone knows that he's the best batsman in the world currently.

It's funny how these people point out so many flaws in Babar but as soon as you ask them to name someone who's better than Babar across all formats atm, they chicken out.

 

[kumjsr]

So you expect Babar to score in every inngs.....he did get 70+ in 3/6 inngs.

You're conveniently cherry-picking the instances where he got out early.

Yes, he could've done better by converting those 70s to 100s but it wasn't a failure in any way.

Best batsman are expected to score big on flat pitches at home at peak of their career. If they are scoring 50s at peak, then expect them to have okayish career, not great one.

 

[Ashmal]

When Kohli played at home around 2016 and 2017, he hit double hundreds for fun vs England, New Zealand and Sri Lanka. He also hit another double hundred vs SA in 2019 and dominated them overseas too.

Babar, in contrast, hits fifties overseas and even at home when England toured, all he did was hit fifties and let the opposition batsman take the game away on its head. As of now, Babar in his whole home season has a match saving 196 vs Australia and a knock today against a well past its prime NZ side on a flat pitch to show. I don't know what is there to whine about this considering that just a couple of weeks ago, they were coming from a home series whitewash vs England 0-3.

Who's calling Babar better than Kohli overall, he isn't atm.

The thread is about him being the best batsman in the world across formats currently......which is indisputable.

 

[Ashmal]

Best batsman are expected to score big on flat pitches at home at peak of their career. If they are scoring 50s at peak, then expect them to have okayish career, not great one.

That wasn't the only series he played this year.

7 50s and 4 100s out of 16 inngs in 2022 is not 'okayish' by any stretch of imagination unless you're a blind hater.

 

[kumjsr]

That wasn't the only series he played this year.

7 50s and 4 100s out of 16 inngs in 2022 is not 'okayish' by any stretch of imagination unless you're a blind hater.

I will suggest that you read the post again.

 

[Ashmal]

I will suggest that you read the post again.

There's nothing to see....you're are clinging on to his 50s against Eng while conveniently ignoring his other performances throughout this year.

And if Babar isn't the best batter across formats then who's that currently??

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

All innings.
Pakistani pitches are world best flat tracks, these soft runs are just for stat padding and have no credibility unless you win the match.

Brook and Duckett shown how to play when it matters on second innings where pitch is doing something.

At least England played with mani bowlers on flat roads, here Nz are missing Boult and Jamieson... Good for Babar fans.

How many matches has Babar played in Pakistan? And who according you is the best batter across all formats?

 

[James]

I do think that his second innings performances against England were disappointing, with a couple of very soft dismissals, but no doubt he is a brilliant first innings player in Tests and his record throughout 2022 across all formats is excellent.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No one comes close to him at the moment Odis or tests regardless of where you score runs are runs so yes he is easily the best all format batsman in the world right now. If you only counted the runs of the man in your profile picture outside of India he wouldn’t be a great either.

What has he done in tests that no one comes close to him? Score hundreds on placid home pitches? Rishabh Pant has scored on far worse conditions. I am not even going into the Fab 4.

An Asian batsman with a grand total of 1 test hundred outside Asia is nowhere in the debate of any kind when it comes to test batting.

Test is the premier format of cricket a batsman who test batting leaves a lot to be fulfilled is by no way the best batsman in the world.



Babar avgd 43 in 37 tests till Dec 31 2021.

Suddenly this year his avg has touched 50. Why? Because he hasn't stepped outside Asia.




The man in my profile picture avgs 45 plus in all Sena countries plus WI. His avg in SENA plus WI is nearly 51. Its an insult to him to compare him to Babar at this stage.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I do think that his second innings performances against England were disappointing, with a couple of very soft dismissals, but no doubt he is a brilliant first innings player in Tests and his record throughout 2022 across all formats is excellent.

How many tests has he played outside Asia in 2022?

 

[James]

How many tests has he played outside Asia in 2022?

No idea CJ, but that’s not his fault where he plays, he doesn’t organise the games and the tours.

 

[Ashmal]

What has he done in tests that no one comes close to him? Score hundreds on placid home pitches? Rishabh Pant has scored on far worse conditions. I am not even going into the Fab 4.

An Asian batsman with a grand total of 1 test hundred outside Asia is nowhere in the debate of any kind when it comes to test batting.

Test is the premier format of cricket a batsman who test batting leaves a lot to be fulfilled is by no way the best batsman in the world.



Babar avgd 43 in 37 tests till Dec 31 2021.

Suddenly this year his avg has touched 50. Why? Because he hasn't stepped outside Asia.




The man in my profile picture avgs 45 plus in all Sena countries plus WI. His avg in SENA plus WI is nearly 51. Its an insult to him to compare him to Babar at this stage.

Rishabh Pant who can't even keep his place in the LoI teams is nowhere in the reckoning for the best batsman across formats.


This isn't a discussion about best Test batsman currently (Joe Root wins it atm)......but the best batsman across formats.......and there's no one near Babar at that atm.

 

[dravidthewall]

In Pakistani highway even sarfaraz and Agha scoring 100 for fun.

 

[Varun]

Babar has a bad habit of getting out first thing in the morning.

 

[AAli98]

Babar is decent player- not in same class as root, Williamson, etc - who all are well behind kohli smith Barbar is paks best batsman. But pathetic captain and worse fielder in the team.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No idea CJ, but that’s not his fault where he plays, he doesn’t organise the games and the tours.

Zero tests outside Asia in 2022 Sir James.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Rishabh Pant who can't even keep his place in the LoI teams is nowhere in the reckoning for the best batsman across formats.


This isn't a discussion about best Test batsman currently (Joe Root wins it atm)......but the best batsman across formats.......and there's no one near Babar at that atm.

Test cricket is the premier format of the game. For a batsman to be considered the best in the world, he has to be among the best in test cricket. No?

 

[Kraetoz]

Test cricket is the premier format of the game. For a batsman to be considered the best in the world, he has to be among the best in test cricket. No?

This thread is about "best all format player". For him to be the best in the world, he has to be the best batsman across formats.

 

[Mean&Green]

What has he done in tests that no one comes close to him? Score hundreds on placid home pitches? Rishabh Pant has scored on far worse conditions. I am not even going into the Fab 4.

An Asian batsman with a grand total of 1 test hundred outside Asia is nowhere in the debate of any kind when it comes to test batting.

Test is the premier format of cricket a batsman who test batting leaves a lot to be fulfilled is by no way the best batsman in the world.



Babar avgd 43 in 37 tests till Dec 31 2021.

Suddenly this year his avg has touched 50. Why? Because he hasn't stepped outside Asia.




The man in my profile picture avgs 45 plus in all Sena countries plus WI. His avg in SENA plus WI is nearly 51. It’s an insult to him to compare him to Babar at this stage.

No one is comparing Babar with sachin that would be criminal he will never ever come close to kohli or sachin whose feet kohli can’t even touch. The point is he is the best all format batsman in the world currently in all formats barring t20s but he’s decent there too. There is no shame in admitting I know it’s hard for you as you’re an Indian but the matter of fact is he is the best right now that’s what the threads title is.

 

[dravidthewall]

We can't say that Babar is best all format batsman judging him on thease flat highways.Let him score heavily on seaming wickets in SENA

 

[Kraetoz]

We can't say that Babar is best all format batsman judging him on thease flat highways.Let him score heavily on seaming wickets in SENA

Name any other player who is best in the world currently across formats?

 

[dravidthewall]

Name any other player who is best in the world currently across formats?

Right now there is no such batsman best in all three format combine.

 

[emranabbas]

We need to stop making these flat tikkis to boost babar's stats

batting has never been our strength we need to make pitches according to our strength

 

[jnaveen1980]

Test cricket is the premier format of the game. For a batsman to be considered the best in the world, he has to be among the best in test cricket. No?

I am not sure he is the best in other formats. In world T20 Babar looked like a tailender against pace and bounce. Finished with worst strike rates. Any other country would have dropped him.

In ODI he batted against C string of Australia at home where Imam Ul haq outscored him by a run. Then 3 fifties against Holland.

In Tests in Australian series Khawaja totally outbatted him, In England series, Brook and Duckett outbatted him. Now there is a good chance one of the Newzealander outbatting him on this road.

 

[Kraetoz]

Right now there is no such batsman best in all three format combine.

There is and his name is Babar Azam, miles ahead of everyone across formats currently.

In last 5 years across formats

Most Runs - Babar Azam (8949)
Most Hundreds - Babar Azam (21)
Most Fifties - Babar Azam (65)
Best Average - Babar Azam (52.02)

 

[Devadwal]

He can make 100 ,200 on flat track like this match where NZ score currently is 165/0 .most impactless runs

 

[TheNeutralist]

Jadeja would have scored triple centuries on these flat tracks. Babar did good, but more was expected out of him looking at the pitches.

 

[Mamoon]

Babar averaged 53 vs Eng in the recent test series, which you are calling a failure by his standards. This, itself says a lot about how highly you rate him. Obviously a test series is won by 1 player and other batsmen and bowlers are there to make up the numbers.

Depends on how you define ‘rating highly’. Babar is a very good batsman. Everyone knows that.

However, he is not as good as Kohli & 10 years later when both him & Kohli will be retired players, no one will look back on their careers & say that Babar was better than Kohli just like no one looks back on the respective careers of Inzamam & Tendulkar & claims that Inzamam was better.

I don’t see the point of comparing Babar to a player who is simply out of his league when you take the whole career into consideration. Players are judged by their careers & not by convenient, arbitrary patches of career.

As I explained above, someone like Younis was better than Ponting for 2-3 years but it didn’t mean anything just like it doesn’t mean anything if Babar has been better than Kohli in Tests over the last 2-3 years.

As a batsman, Kohli belongs to the league of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara, Sir Viv etc. Babar is a couple of notches below that league & is in the same class as Inzamam, Yousuf, Miandad etc. That is not a bad company to be in - they were all top players. You don’t have to be as good as Kohli or Tendulkar or Ponting to be considered a good player.

As far as the England series is concerned, his performance was not dissimilar to what I expected. He will score runs because he is a batsman but he will always choke a lot because he is a choker & most of his runs are soft. That is what happened against England too.

Yes it is not just his responsibility but when you are the best batsman in the team & your delusional fans think you are the best in the world, that standards have to be higher for you. You cannot be judged like others.

The problem is not Babar’s batting. The problem is that he is not the batsman his fans think he is. They overestimate his ability.

Also, statistically speaking, Babar’s average is more than Kohli’s in SENA. No of centuries is a distorted metric because 1) Kohli had played more tests by 27 and 2) it doesn’t include impactful 50s and 90s.

This is not true. Kohli & Babar had played similar number of overseas Tests by 27-28 & Kohli had more runs, more centuries & higher average. He was better on all fronts.

I just don’t see the obsession of comparing Babar with Kohli. This comparison is actually unfair on Babar because he ends up copping undue criticism.

It is not his fault that cannot be as good as Kohli, he is trying his best & Pakistani fans should celebrate him for who he is.

 

[Mamoon]

Of course that is the only team he can score against cause of a psychological thing because he’s well past his expiry date can’t even lay bat on ball, cant catch a ball to save his life , and worst of them all is blatantly claiming grassed catches and crying over sledging. If it wasn’t for the t20 World Cup knock against Pakistan your small man syndrome king who would been long gone home packing. Babar is here to stay he is the worlds best all format batsman currently by a long way and no one comes close if you like it or not.

Make peace with the following harsh realities of life:

1. Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced

2. Kohli was much better at Babar’s than Babar is today

3. When both Kohli & Babar retire, no one will look back at their careers & say that Babar was a better batsman. Not even Babar’s family will be this delusional. Babar is not in the same league.

4. Being better than Kohli over the last 2-3 years means nothing. Kohli is in decline. When a legendary player is in decline, many lesser players are better than them. Not just Babar but many less players have done better than Kohli lately, it doesn’t mean anything.

 

[mastermind_quad]

Yes, currently he is most consistent scoring batsman in all format. Scoring lots and lots of runs with very good average.

But I'll not say best as the matter of fact none of the current batsmen are best in all format. All are good in either one or two not in all three format's.

Babar seems not an impact player right now as opposition don't gets worried even if he scores.
He is having some very good match winning performances (all format combined) as well.

Hopefully he'll become best player in the world. Age is on his side and he is very good in scoring runs just need to score and according to situation corresponding to the format when Pakistan needed most from his best player.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He can make 100 ,200 on flat track like this match where NZ score currently is 165/0 .most impactless runs

Ok so when Pant scored 46 against lower ranked Bangladesh after India lost quick wickets, you guys were appreciating his inning and how it changed the momentum lol. Similarly Babar has scored 161 in the same situation against better ranked team but this inning is impactless? It is not his fault that his inexperienced bowlers are getting a phainta. Look at the tests these guys have played so far:

Hamza - 2
Wasim - 2
Abrar - 3
Nauman - 13

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Yes, currently he is most consistent scoring batsman in all format. Scoring lots and lots of runs with very good average.

But I'll not say best as the matter of fact none of the current batsmen are best in all format. All are good in either one or two not in all three format's.

Babar seems not an impact player right now as opposition don't gets worried even if he scores.
He is having some very good match winning performances (all format combined) as well.

Hopefully he'll become best player in the world. Age is on his side and he is very good in scoring runs just need to score and according to situation corresponding to the format when Pakistan needed most from his best player.

This is the best post in this thread. He understands what the question in OP is all about. If we combine all three formats, look at his consistency, average etc, he is currently the best batter in the world.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jadeja would have scored triple centuries on these flat tracks. Babar did good, but more was expected out of him looking at the pitches.

Ashwin has 3 hundreds on Indian pitches, he would have scored a 400 on this pitch.

 

[dravidthewall]

There is and his name is Babar Azam, miles ahead of everyone across formats currently.

In last 5 years across formats

Most Runs - Babar Azam (8949)
Most Hundreds - Babar Azam (21)
Most Fifties - Babar Azam (65)
Best Average - Babar Azam (52.02)

All are soft runs without much impact on match results. Can you tell me what is Babars second innings avg score?.

 

[Buffet]

How many batsmen play all games in T20, ODI and Test?

Babar and Rizwan are the only two batsmen in entire world who have played 100+ international games in the last 3 years. Even against C or D sides they always play.

All format competition is pretty much between Babar and Rizwan. I do think Babar is better than Rizwan so yes Babar is the best all format batsman right now.

Kudos to Babar.

I think he is a fine batsman, but this all format thing is useless. Babar won't make into even 3rd world XI of T20 due to having very limited hitting ability. He has grand total of 1-2 away test ton in his entire career. I don't rate him high in test format yet. He is very good in ODI and I will pick him in World XI.

Seen separately, he is really good in ODI, but not that good in T20 and Test format. But his competition of all format is Rizwan, who also plays pretty much all games.

Babar is by default the best all format batsman.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Make peace with the following harsh realities of life:

1. Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced

2. Kohli was much better at Babar’s than Babar is today

3. When both Kohli & Babar retire, no one will look back at their careers & say that Babar was a better batsman. Not even Babar’s family will be this delusional. Babar is not in the same league.

4. Being better than Kohli over the last 2-3 years means nothing. Kohli is in decline. When a legendary player is in decline, many lesser players are better than them. Not just Babar but many less players have done better than Kohli lately, it doesn’t mean anything.

Do you have a crystal ball that predicts the future? If not, then what are you on about?

Your posting history has already shown how wrong you have been so often. Toss that crystal ball out. You got suckered in by whoever you bought it from.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Make peace with the following harsh realities of life:

1. Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced

2. Kohli was much better at Babar’s than Babar is today

3. When both Kohli & Babar retire, no one will look back at their careers & say that Babar was a better batsman. Not even Babar’s family will be this delusional. Babar is not in the same league.

4. Being better than Kohli over the last 2-3 years means nothing. Kohli is in decline. When a legendary player is in decline, many lesser players are better than them. Not just Babar but many less players have done better than Kohli lately, it doesn’t mean anything.

I strongly disagree, I believe people will remember Babar much more. Why?

1.He reformed batting in a country where bowling has always dominated.Similar to Kapil Dev in India. He may be inferior to Imran Khan in bowling, but he was still a rare breed in India.

2.He defeated IND in a WC match something that IK, Akram or none from PAK could pull off. They all choked in these matches.

3.He did not have role models in the team like Dhoni, Tendulkar and Yuvraj. Pakistan's last ATG batsman was Miandad back in the 1970s I do not consider Yousuf or Inzi as greats, they choked in crucial encounters. The seniors in the team like Hafeez, Malik or Misbah are not even Pakistani greats. They all average below 50 in all formats as far as I remember.

To conclude Babar is a gift for Pakistan and we must value and give him the respect he deserves.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you have a crystal ball that predicts the future? If not, then what are you on about?

Your posting history has already shown how wrong you have been so often. Toss that crystal ball out. You got suckered in by whoever you bought it from.

You don’t need a crystal ball to predict that Babar will never be as good as Kohli just like you don’t need a crystal ball to predict that Bumrah will never be as good as Wasim.

I am right even when I appear to be wrong. People catch up late. Anyway, it is not about me. If I were you, I would worry more about the embarrassing “make Shan captain” agenda than what I write.

 

[Mamoon]

I strongly disagree, I believe people will remember Babar much more. Why?

1.He reformed batting in a country where bowling has always dominated.Similar to Kapil Dev in India. He may be inferior to Imran Khan in bowling, but he was still a rare breed in India.

2.He defeated IND in a WC match something that IK, Akram or none from PAK could pull off. They all choked in these matches.

3.He did not have role models in the team like Dhoni, Tendulkar and Yuvraj. Pakistan's last ATG batsman was Miandad back in the 1970s I do not consider Yousuf or Inzi as greats, they choked in crucial encounters. The seniors in the team like Hafeez, Malik or Misbah are not even Pakistani greats. They all average below 50 in all formats as far as I remember.

To conclude Babar is a gift for Pakistan and we must value and give him the respect he deserves.

People remember better players more. The world will remember Kohli more than Babar, but yes for Pakistani fans Babar will be more memorable.

 

[Major]

I strongly disagree, I believe people will remember Babar much more. Why?

1.He reformed batting in a country where bowling has always dominated.Similar to Kapil Dev in India. He may be inferior to Imran Khan in bowling, but he was still a rare breed in India.

2.He defeated IND in a WC match something that IK, Akram or none from PAK could pull off. They all choked in these matches.

3.He did not have role models in the team like Dhoni, Tendulkar and Yuvraj. Pakistan's last ATG batsman was Miandad back in the 1970s I do not consider Yousuf or Inzi as greats, they choked in crucial encounters. The seniors in the team like Hafeez, Malik or Misbah are not even Pakistani greats. They all average below 50 in all formats as far as I remember.

To conclude Babar is a gift for Pakistan and we must value and give him the respect he deserves.

Misbah is amongst the great, he will be up for the ICC hall of fame in 20 years from now

 

[cricketjoshila]

I strongly disagree, I believe people will remember Babar much more. Why?

1.He reformed batting in a country where bowling has always dominated.Similar to Kapil Dev in India. He may be inferior to Imran Khan in bowling, but he was still a rare breed in India.

2.He defeated IND in a WC match something that IK, Akram or none from PAK could pull off. They all choked in these matches.

3.He did not have role models in the team like Dhoni, Tendulkar and Yuvraj. Pakistan's last ATG batsman was Miandad back in the 1970s I do not consider Yousuf or Inzi as greats, they choked in crucial encounters. The seniors in the team like Hafeez, Malik or Misbah are not even Pakistani greats. They all average below 50 in all formats as far as I remember.

To conclude Babar is a gift for Pakistan and we must value and give him the respect he deserves.

1. Reformed batting? When people talk about pakistani batsman, they talk about Miandad and Inzamam. Both of them far better players of spin. Miandad was a better player of pace as well.

2. Or may be India chocked in one match after 30 years?

Babar is a v good batsman there is no denying thst. But he isn't in the league of the likes of Miandad or Inzy, the Kohli's and Smith's are further ahead.

 

[topspin]

Misbah is amongst the great, he will be up for the ICC hall of fame in 20 years from now

Top tier ATG for me.

The Mohali innings should become a Netflix hit.

 

[Msd_7]

Impact less all format best batter

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

You don’t need a crystal ball to predict that Babar will never be as good as Kohli just like you don’t need a crystal ball to predict that Bumrah will never be as good as Wasim.

I am right even when I appear to be wrong. People catch up late. Anyway, it is not about me. If I were you, I would worry more about the embarrassing “make Shan captain” agenda than what I write.

Well you have shown yourself to be wrong only about a zillion times before, so it's hilarious that you're trying to call me out about Shan Masood. You have made such awful calls and statements with the utmost confidence.

But that doesn't even bother me. It's good to see someone make bold calls. What bothers me instead is the incessant droopy sad negativity.

You're like that cartoon character - droopy dog or whatever it was. That is what irritates me sometimes. It's so predictable that I just skip over 90% of your posts because I know all it will be is some criticism of how bad Pak is and then with a bit of how good India is.

I stick by that call about Shan by the way, but I doubt we'll ever get to see who was right about it.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Misbah is amongst the great, he will be up for the ICC hall of fame in 20 years from now

Yes, we can tell you are very objective and we should take your opinion very seriously. No bias at all. Even though you try your best to bring Misbah into any post to try to big him up. And of course you've got his lovely bearded face in each of your posts.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Babar is very good in asia in Tests but outside his numbers are mediocre. He needs to score big outside asia to be considered the best batter.

 

[Kraetoz]

1. Reformed batting? When people talk about pakistani batsman, they talk about Miandad and Inzamam. Both of them far better players of spin. Miandad was a better player of pace as well.

2. Or may be India chocked in one match after 30 years?

Babar is a v good batsman there is no denying thst. But he isn't in the league of the likes of Miandad or Inzy, the Kohli's and Smith's are further ahead.

One thing I don't understand is how conveniently people ignore or don't really comprehend the meaning of the thread, it's talking about ****all formats**** not talking about test specialists, where does Smith comes from? it can be discussed in any other thread like "Babar Azam in Tests or whatever".

Miandad is last great all format batsman that Pakistan produced not Inzi and now its Babar Azam.

Highest ranking ever achieved in different formats by the players you mentioned.

Babar Azam
T20is # 1
ODIs # 1
Tests # 2

Miandad
ODIs # 1
Tests # 1

Kohli
Tests # 1
ODIs # 1
T20is # 1

Inzi
Tests # 1
ODIS # 4

Steve smith
Tests # 1
ODIs # 6
T20is # 48

Steve smith is no where near others in "all formats", it's just laughable.

This thread further states "currently" as every single person knows the best all format batsman in last decade """was""" Kohli. No debate at all.

if you see Inzi odi rankings graph, he spent most of his playing career ranked in 20s-30s in the world. Proven choker in world cups from 1996-2007, averages 24 in world cups. Same goes for Yousuf and YK in world cups with averages of 32 and 21 respectively, all three chokers of the highest order. Can cut Inzi some slack because of his 92 heroics.

Babar in a single world cup in just 8 innings has more runs than Yusuf and YK at an average of 68. Babar's 101* at Birmingham against Newzealand is the best world cup century ever by a Pakistani.

YK, Yusuf, Inzi combined have zero world cup centuries.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Not entirely true, WI have produced several ATG players in the 70s and 80s but people will always remember the likes of Tendulkar, Miandad, Dev, IK because they reformed the way cricket is played in their countries.
Although head to head WI players were clearly superior

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Sorry but check Inzi average in WC and then tell me who is better.

Inzi is not even near Babar in ODIs and Babar has a charisma about his batting, he has inspired millions of boys in Pakistan to become a batsman similar to what Imran or Wasim did. Inzi was a poor runner between the wickets.

Minded on the other hand is still the gold standard but the way Babar is going he will definitely beat him one day.

 

[Mean&Green]

Make peace with the following harsh realities of life:

1. Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced

2. Kohli was much better at Babar’s than Babar is today

3. When both Kohli & Babar retire, no one will look back at their careers & say that Babar was a better batsman. Not even Babar’s family will be this delusional. Babar is not in the same league.

4. Being better than Kohli over the last 2-3 years means nothing. Kohli is in decline. When a legendary player is in decline, many lesser players are better than them. Not just Babar but many less players have done better than Kohli lately, it doesn’t mean anything.

This thread is about currently and currently Babar is a better Batsman than kohli. He will never be better than him overall of course unless something dramatically changes. But the fact is Babar is the best batsman at the moment in world cricket if you like it or not. Learn to live in the present mamoon no one cares about the past and no one can predict the future.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Sorry but check Inzi average in WC and then tell me who is better.

Inzi is not even near Babar in ODIs and Babar has a charisma about his batting, he has inspired millions of boys in Pakistan to become a batsman similar to what Imran or Wasim did. Inzi was a poor runner between the wickets.

Minded on the other hand is still the gold standard but the way Babar is going he will definitely beat him one day.

What charisma you talking about?
Inzi won the WC with his batting performance.
He single handedly won the 1992 wc SF against nz 60(37) .

Yeah..Babar has great charisma for scoring softruns without any impact.

 

[Kraetoz]

What charisma you talking about?
Inzi won the WC with his batting performance.
He single handedly won the 1992 wc SF against nz 60(37) .

Yeah..Babar has great charisma for scoring softruns without any impact.

Care to talk about Inzi's performance from 1996 to 2007? 4 world cups? While having at least 2 all time great limited overs bowlers in his team in 3 out of those 4 world cups?

Yes even with those heroics in 1992 world cup, he averages 24 in world cups. What a legend.

 

[PakEngFan]

Make peace with the following harsh realities of life:

1. Kohli is a better batsman than anyone Pakistan has ever produced

2. Kohli was much better at Babar’s than Babar is today

3. When both Kohli & Babar retire, no one will look back at their careers & say that Babar was a better batsman. Not even Babar’s family will be this delusional. Babar is not in the same league.

4. Being better than Kohli over the last 2-3 years means nothing. Kohli is in decline. When a legendary player is in decline, many lesser players are better than them. Not just Babar but many less players have done better than Kohli lately, it doesn’t mean anything.

Even Kholi family won’t put him next to Lara and tendulkar etc. For a start root and smith are few levels above him in the real format and it’s not even close. Kholi is far better then them 2 in mickey mouse format while in odis he’s a serial choker and a bilateral bully.

 

[PakEngFan]

1. Reformed batting? When people talk about pakistani batsman, they talk about Miandad and Inzamam. Both of them far better players of spin. Miandad was a better player of pace as well.

2. Or may be India chocked in one match after 30 years?

Babar is a v good batsman there is no denying thst. But he isn't in the league of the likes of Miandad or Inzy, the Kohli's and Smith's are further ahead.

I agree Babar and Kholi are not in the same league just like smith and Kholi shouldn’t be either smith is far ahead as a test batter and that’s what matters.

 

[The_KING]

Best batsman in the world wouldn't get out early every morning at the start of a new day, which is something Babar seems to do quite frequently. Kohli at his best would have converted that 161 into a double century.

Babar is a very good batsman, but it isn't right to compare him with Kohli or label him as the best batsman in the world. That isn't fair on Babar.