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[VIDEOS] Is Babar Azam the right choice as ODI captain for Pakistan?

Is Babar Azam the right choice as ODI captain for Pakistan?

  • Yes, he is the best person to lead Pakistan in ODIs

    Votes: 45 33.8%

  • No, not the right choice

    Votes: 88 66.2%
  • Total voters
    133
Rana said:
Sarfaraz would not have lost to Sri Lanka had it not been for the OTT kebab main haddi actions of Misbah ul Haq
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Correct.

Misbah became chief selector just before that T20 series started. That is when Sarfraz’s 11 T20 Series Win-Streak broke.

Misbah is the culprit like always. Destroyer of Pakistan cricket.
 
Seems like Babar has been told already he's being replaced after the wc. They've probably been told who's replacing him. This disjointed performances are too similar to the last t20i series of Sarfraz as captain (against SL -B side) which we went on to lose 3-0.
Seems like Shaheen would be made LOI captain. Nawaz is probably going to be dropped from all squads.
 
This team has been the master of PR with their carefully edited social media clips showing this great team spirit & togetherness. But like with all Pakistan teams of the past as soon as the writing is on the ball everyone goes into self preservation mode. This team is a joke.


Our fitness levels have dropped, our fielding level has dropped dramatically we seemed to have gone to India as tourists to try food & have a dawath.

Arrogance and overconfidence has crept into this group & u can tell there's a lot of big egos in there without the performances to boot.

Mickey has proven to be a rudderless overrated coach who is dining off that 2017 CT win.
 
ArabKnight said:
There’s no connection between your points.
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I simply replied to each irrevant point you made.

Which re-enforces my response you made up a loads of nonsense due to an agenda.

At least show some basic comprehension.

Rather than just randomly saying you don't rate things with zero context
 
Amjid Javed said:
I simply replied to each irrevant point you made.

Which re-enforces my response you made up a loads of nonsense due to an agenda.

At least show some basic comprehension.

Rather than just randomly saying you don't rate things with zero context
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No need to get emotional about this. Simply stating the facts. There’s nothing to boast about of not having a series loss at home in Tests. It’s the most dull format with defensive attritional cricket. It doesn’t require much skill to tire out the opposition by bowling 100 overs of chucking spin. Many captains haven’t lost a test series at home. In fact, it’s expected to not loose since you have home advantage & control over pitch conditions before the match starts.
 
Saj said:
He looked fed up today during and after the match.

Looked like a skipper who has had enough.
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Whats stopping him from resigning then? If someone knows they are not up for the job, why not resign and let someone else do the job? I would have done it if it were in the best interests of the team and country.
 
Misbah was not a good test captain.

The truth is Misbah is made to look good in tests played in UAE because Sarfraz didn't have the same success in tests played in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah. This is largely because the team Younis Khan had retired prior to his appointment as captain. He was an ATG player of spin bowling and an absolute beast in the UAE. After the retirements of him and Misbah, the team was in transition. The batting line up after MisYou was inept against spin. Even Babar got schooled by Sri Lankan spinners in the 2017 series.

Also Sarfraz didn't benefit from the chucking services of Ajmal and Hafeez.

Every captain needs good players to win matches. However, outside the UAE is where Misbah got ruthlessly exposed. In 2013, Pakistan lost a test match and therefore failed to win a series against an awful Zimbabwe side. It was at this moment, when Misbah should've retired gracefully from international cricket. Had he done so, he would've been respected for how he led Pakistan cricket in a dignified manner following the 2010 spot fixing scandal.

But where he got really exposed was during the 2016/17 Australia series. It was so bad that the Australian comm. box were humiliating him, most notably by Ian Chappell who lashed out at Misbah for his shambolic tactics. He's the worst captain in tests played in Australia. I'll never forget how he bowled Yasir Shah to the ground and all those horrible leg-side fields. It was insufferable for Pakistan fans watching test cricket at the time of this series.

His defensive captaincy also cost us a test series win against England in 2016 when Pakistan had a lead of over 100 runs. Instead of searching for wickets he let England score easy runs because he decided to set defensive fields after the first 10 overs. They ended up racking up 445, leaving Pakistan in a vulnerable position, having to survive the final day of the test match. As expected they failed to accomplish this.

His captaincy in tests as bad as what it was in white ball cricket but his success in test cricket is overstated and quite simply exaggerated by his fans.
 
Sack Babar as captain now, appoint whoever, and watch Pakistan win the rest of the qualifier games.

Mindset is shot, and the approach above more than often is the case dor example when football managers are changed mid season.

Guaranteed to work, if not improve Pakistan's performance!
 
ArabKnight said:
No need to get emotional about this. Simply stating the facts. There’s nothing to boast about of not having a series loss at home in Tests. It’s the most dull format with defensive attritional cricket. It doesn’t require much skill to tire out the opposition by bowling 100 overs of chucking spin. Many captains haven’t lost a test series at home. In fact, it’s expected to not loose since you have home advantage & control over pitch conditions before the match starts.
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Stating facts?

Based on what? Let me be brutally honest you are talking 💩 because of an agenda.

You made a statement "Anyone can win at home"

Where are the stats to back up the claim? Did every test side win all there home series during same time misbah was captain? Let's see if can answer that?

Why don't you list all the test captains who during the period misbah was captain didn't lose a test series at home?

Again you keep saying your stating facts? Yet uve given no evidence, proof or stats.

Until you do learn what the word "fact" actually means.
 
Babar needs to be sacked after the WC. He needs to start playing and not use the captaincy as an excuse for his Conservative approach. Babar is a good batsman and needs to show that against the good bowlers, which in his case is the top spinners
 
Energy said:
Wasim didn't want to take any names but he was definitely referring to Imam on the topic of fitness and said 'itna bara mooh' on the ARY sports show.

Imam has become a fat joke in the field.
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I was saying this to @mominsaigol - his face looked chubbier than usual today. Instead of losing weight, it's almost as if he's put on weight during this World Cup.

What a fat joke (pun intended).
 
ex-q-zit said:
I feel for the guy. He has a likeable personality but not that of a leader. Having said that i dont think there is anyone else who has the leadership traits in the squad.
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Yeah thats the problem. In fact there is nobody else ( apart from Rizwan and Shaheen) that is guaranteed to be selected.
 
Teams always unite when they win. These are individuals who are thrown together by circumstances. Each will fight for his career and when losses mount, each man for himself. Its the nature of professional Sport
 
topspin said:
One time during the PSL, Babar was about to have a plate full of biryani. Wasim Akram was around and stepped in to prevent him from doing so. Seems like him and the team haven't learnt from this experience.
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He doesn’t listen to Wasim

Wasim told him to bat at number 3. Babar didn’t bother paying him any attention
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Yeah thats the problem. In fact there is nobody else ( apart from Rizwan and Shaheen) that is guaranteed to be selected.
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I dont think Rizzy and Shaheen too make good captains. They also share the same mentality as Babar and were in fact the main think tank in this team. So no use replacing them as team philosophy will still be same.
 
Rana said:
He doesn’t listen to Wasim

Wasim told him to bat at number 3. Babar didn’t bother paying him any attention
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I'm glad Wasim made this public because he forewarned everybody how selfish Babar is but no one took heed to his warning.
 
Rana said:
Instead, they attacked Wasim and demanded Babar to get out of the ‘toxic Karachi kings set up’.

This is the issue with these Babar/Rizwan fans. They live in their own world!
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I remember their toxicity during this year's PSL in the match threads.
 
Savak said:
The team's body language is showing that everyone is trying to save their own ass now. They know the writing is on the wall and a lot of players are going to face the chop once this tournament is over.
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But they already have secured their contracts.
 
ex-q-zit said:
I dont think Rizzy and Shaheen too make good captains. They also share the same mentality as Babar and were in fact the main think tank in this team. So no use replacing them as team philosophy will still be same.
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Shaheen should get a series as captain in ODIs and see how he goes. If PCT get knocked out in group stages Babar would and should step down.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Seems like Babar has been told already he's being replaced after the wc. They've probably been told who's replacing him. This disjointed performances are too similar to the last t20i series of Sarfraz as captain (against SL -B side) which we went on to lose 3-0.
Seems like Shaheen would be made LOI captain. Nawaz is probably going to be dropped from all squads.
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Indications are there - PCB did a revision to central contracts few days ago with Sarfraz getting B level category, a promotion - my suspicion is that it could point to him becoming the test captain. Lets see.
 
One very interesting thing I observed was Rijwan was not laughing anymore.he was hiding his his face in case of mis fields and trying to show his anguish all the time. It seems like he is preparing himself for captaincy by throwing captain under the bus like 90's pak superstar's.He was openly dissenting even Atherton was saying it.
 
deltexas said:
This is so true lol ! Pak has. a way better chance of winning this WC than winning down under. Feel for whoever the captain are the bowlers are for that tour.
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The funny thing is that captain will go to Australia, get thumped and get sacked as captain. I wouldn’t take the job!
 
Vikram1989 said:
One very interesting thing I observed was Rijwan was not laughing anymore.he was hiding his his face in case of mis fields and trying to show his anguish all the time. It seems like he is preparing himself for captaincy by throwing captain under the bus like 90's pak superstar's.He was openly dissenting even Atherton was saying it.
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I just think he was frustrated
 
Vikram1989 said:
One very interesting thing I observed was Rijwan was not laughing anymore.he was hiding his his face in case of mis fields and trying to show his anguish all the time. It seems like he is preparing himself for captaincy by throwing captain under the bus like 90's pak superstar's.He was openly dissenting even Atherton was saying it.
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He can have it. He will have the same if not a worse fate than Babar.

One thing Babar was good at during his reign as a captain was not respond to defeats or even victories with OTT ridiculous statements in the media.

The stage will be set for Rizwan to have all the attention he craves, and be sure of it that he will become cannon fodder for the Pak toxic media.
 
Is it fair to Blame just Babar? He is getting no support from his spinners, or fast bowlers. The fielding has been horrendous. Batting has had its up and down moments. I don’t agree with his tactics and yes he’s captain the book ends with him. However he hasn’t had the team perform up to standard at all.
 
Blaming the captain is a cop out in this case. It doesn’t matter if Stephen Fleming, Dohni, or whoever else is your captain of this side. If the spinners bowl this kind of garbage and the fast bowlers bowl short balls outside off, you can’t defend any target.
 
Vikram1989 said:
One very interesting thing I observed was Rijwan was not laughing anymore.he was hiding his his face in case of mis fields and trying to show his anguish all the time. It seems like he is preparing himself for captaincy by throwing captain under the bus like 90's pak superstar's.He was openly dissenting even Atherton was saying it.
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Rizwan is a big drama queen!
 
adzzy786 said:
Is it fair to Blame just Babar? He is getting no support from his spinners, or fast bowlers. The fielding has been horrendous. Batting has had its up and down moments. I don’t agree with his tactics and yes he’s captain the book ends with him. However he hasn’t had the team perform up to standard at all.
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Yeah there’s nothing anyone could do with this attack.

Shaheen - Clearly lacking fitness after injury but it seems to be somewhat returning which is hopeful. His pace is coming back but it’s going time to put it all together again.

Rauf - To be fair to Rauf I think he’s being misused by being brought on so early. But in these conditions, his pace hurts more than it helps. Especially early on when the ball is hard and the batsmen are looking to cash in during the powerplay. Rauf is a limited bowler who is only great at the death.

Hasan Ali - Drafted last minute, he was dropped for a reason, should never have been picked

Usama Mir and Shadab Khan - Absolutely horrible horrible spinners

No captain can win with this attack and the way it’s being used. Especially if you don’t have just an absolutely explosive batting lineup like South Africa.
 
Babar has to live by the sword.. when he first became captain Hafeez Malik & misbah (the coach) use to give him advise on field, he made it clear he felt uncomfortable so they stopped. Now son you die by the sword.
 
Mamoon said:
They are united in being mediocre.
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People like you never learn

Talked trash about us when we lost against Zimbabwe last year, and then we almost won the t20 WC after that

We just need to win the remaining 4 games. Those same opponents we beat in 2019 as well, with a much weaker team that was thrashed by West Indies

Once we are mathematically or logically out of the tournament, then such criticism looks valid

Right now, we are pretty much in the tournament and will win the remaining 4 games and qualify for semis InshAllah
 
adzzy786 said:
Is it fair to Blame just Babar? He is getting no support from his spinners, or fast bowlers. The fielding has been horrendous. Batting has had its up and down moments. I don’t agree with his tactics and yes he’s captain the book ends with him. However he hasn’t had the team perform up to standard at all.
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It is not just this tournament. Babar has led the team incompetently before as well. He got the team he wanted and was advised by Misbah, Hafeez to consider alternatives to Shadab, Rauf, Nawaz but he stuck to his guns, he has to be held to account. The team's fitness and fielding levels have massively declined under him as well. The overall environment in the team is completely unprofessional i.e. dosti yaari. Babar the batsman has massively declined in the last few years and he has become a shameful stadpadder as oppossed to an impactful batsman. He no longer deserves to hold the captaincy anymore.

Shoaib Malik, Azhar Ali, Hafeez and Misbah are now going public about his incompetence.
 
160KPH said:
Blaming the captain is a cop out in this case. It doesn’t matter if Stephen Fleming, Dohni, or whoever else is your captain of this side. If the spinners bowl this kind of garbage and the fast bowlers bowl short balls outside off, you can’t defend any target.
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*** selected and backed these bowlers to the tilt? Babar Azam therefore he should rightfully face the heat now.
 
Savak said:
*** selected and backed these bowlers to the tilt? Babar Azam therefore he should rightfully face the heat now.
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I think we should put blame on the captain. I’m saying that we should also save some blame for the toothless and pathetic bowling we saw today. Some people think if we changed captains our team wouldn’t suddenly be better overnight.
 
160KPH said:
I think we should put blame on the captain. I’m saying that we should also save some blame for the toothless and pathetic bowling we saw today. Some people think if we changed captains our team wouldn’t suddenly be better overnight.
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I think it is a cop out to say things will not change overnight by changing the captain, leader.

The captain, leader makes a big difference in this game of Cricket. Lahore Qalandars languished at the bottom of the table every PSL season but Shaheen ever since he took over the reigns has led them to 2 PSL titles in a row. Dhoni helped India win the 2007 T-20 WC and 2011 ODI WC with the same personnel that Ganguly enjoyed. Kohli led India to a test series win in Australia with the same personnel Dhoni enjoyed in Australia a few years ago.

All ex players are having a go at Babar for his clueless bowling and fielding changes which is just habitual and has been for a while.
 
Savak said:
I think it is a cop out to say things will not change overnight by changing the captain, leader.

The captain, leader makes a big difference in this game of Cricket. Lahore Qalandars languished at the bottom of the table every PSL season but Shaheen ever since he took over the reigns has led them to 2 PSL titles in a row. Dhoni helped India win the 2007 T-20 WC and 2011 ODI WC with the same personnel that Ganguly enjoyed. Kohli led India to a test series win in Australia with the same personnel Dhoni enjoyed in Australia a few years ago.

All ex players are having a go at Babar for his clueless bowling and fielding changes which is just habitual and has been for a while.
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I think your Dohni point goes against what you’re saying. Dohni was a way better captain than Kohli, Kohli was fired over the phone and replaced by Rohit. The players played better in Australia and that’s why they won that series.

No captain in the world would turn Usama Mir and Shadab Khan into good bowlers. Every leg spinner in the world knows not to bowl long hops and if you can’t stop yourself from bowling long hops every over, you shouldn’t be playing international cricket.
 
160KPH said:
I think your Dohni point goes against what you’re saying. Dohni was a way better captain than Kohli, Kohli was fired over the phone and replaced by Rohit. The players played better in Australia and that’s why they won that series.

No captain in the world would turn Usama Mir and Shadab Khan into good bowlers. Every leg spinner in the world knows not to bowl long hops and if you can’t stop yourself from bowling long hops every over, you shouldn’t be playing international cricket.
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A good captain would never pick these bowlers especially when its been clear they have been out of form for a while.
 
Savak said:
A good captain would never pick these bowlers especially when it’s been clear they have been out of form for a while.
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I agree. It’s my view that either a captain should have complete control over selection choices or the selection committee should get complete control. There has to be one party that has the final say so we can hold them responsible. If Babar selected these spinners then he should never have selection powers again.
 
160KPH said:
I agree. It’s my view that either a captain should have complete control over selection choices or the selection committee should get complete control. There has to be one party that has the final say so we can hold them responsible. If Babar selected these spinners then he should never have selection powers again.
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It is very clear that Babar went out of his way to put his foot down on the team he wanted even when Hafeez, Misbah told him to consider proper specialist spinners in place of Shadab, Nawaz. He should be dismissed from the captaincy let alone selection powers.
 
The OP is missing the biggest take away today. Shadab comforting Rauf after his disasterous first over when normally the captain should do so.
 
saqib.rai said:
People like you never learn

Talked trash about us when we lost against Zimbabwe last year, and then we almost won the t20 WC after that

We just need to win the remaining 4 games. Those same opponents we beat in 2019 as well, with a much weaker team that was thrashed by West Indies

Once we are mathematically or logically out of the tournament, then such criticism looks valid

Right now, we are pretty much in the tournament and will win the remaining 4 games and qualify for semis InshAllah
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The irony of your first statement made me fall of my chair.

“Fans” like you is the reason why things never change. Always at liberty with reality.

This is the same delusional mindset that has brought Pakistan to this situation.

We are not good enough. We are an awful team and we are not going to win the next four matches and we will not qualify for the semifinals and won’t deserve to.

You can choose to not acknowledge the reality but your lack of acknowledgment will not change the reality.
 
Babar was never a truly effective captain.

It is now the right moment to make a decision and relieve him of his captaincy.

With this defensive mindset we cannot hope to win any tournament.
 
Mamoon said:
The irony of your first statement made me fall of my chair.

“Fans” like you is the reason why things never change. Always at liberty with reality.

This is the same delusional mindset that has brought Pakistan to this situation.

We are not good enough. We are an awful team and we are not going to win the next four matches and we will not qualify for the semifinals and won’t deserve to.

You can choose to not acknowledge the reality but your lack of acknowledgment will not change the reality.
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Just a while ago

Babar, Imam and Fakhar were in the top 5 ICC ODI batter rankings

Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf were considered the best fast bowling trio by multiple ex-cricketers from around the world

Rizwan and Shadab were seen as one of the best wicketkeepers and all-rounders in the world

3 losses do not signify them. When we are still NOT out of the tournament

My point is: reserve this criticism for when we are actually out. Right now, we can easily win the next 4 matches and qualify for semis InshAllah
 
saqib.rai said:
Just a while ago

Babar, Imam and Fakhar were in the top 5 ICC ODI batter rankings

Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf were considered the best fast bowling trio by multiple ex-cricketers from around the world

Rizwan and Shadab were seen as one of the best wicketkeepers and all-rounders in the world

3 losses do not signify them. When we are still NOT out of the tournament

My point is: reserve this criticism for when we are actually out. Right now, we can easily win the next 4 matches and qualify for semis InshAllah
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ICC rankings are a points based system metric. The more you score, the higher your points. The reason falhar, Imam and Babar are so high is because they've been playing too much, kohli missed 18 odi's from 2019 to 2023, other cricketers like Devon Conway missed 8 odi's this year alone. Kts because their busy playing franchise and send 2nd string for the purpose of grooming like MZ did with Mitchell and Mark Chapman, Mitchell especially who's proving to be the a worth replacement for Williamson.

So imam, Fakhar and Babar at the top is because they played more.

Rauf was always expensive lol, he took wickets cause c strings made mistakes something A strings won't do. Shaheen is class and finding rhythm again slowly, he was unfit but he's still an okay bowler even in Prime, he has that one killer inswing, but otherwise he's bang Average as a middle and death overs bowlers. Only naseem is world class and is defo top 5 odi bowlers.

No one ever saw sheddy as the best allrounder 😂😂, nor does anyone consider rizzu anything more then a t20 opener. He was torn apart for his test performances since he doesn't know how to stay for long. The Sri lanka game philosophy of batting deep and chasing 170 in the last 20 will never work against top teams with even semi decent bowling attacks.

This isn't t20, wickets have fallen, pp rules means fielders are up and ball is softer and older, its much harder to bat 30 overs and then chase 170 of the last 20 in odi then it is in t20. Pakistan will get cremated against sa. Stop the fanboying. The so called this team gives hope is nonsense. Just look at the management, our reserves are stronger then our bench.
 
ArabKnight said:
I don’t rate his captaincy on UAE roads. He was exposed big time overseas.

He rode on the backs of many prime players and failed to get good wins outside of home.
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Misbah drew a series in England when England were beating every other team at home. He had a series win in New Zealand, series win in Sri Lanka and became the first Pakistani test captain to win a series in West Indies.

I find it funny how people with obvious agendas fail to give Misbah any credit for any of the series victories under his leadership, but you people are the first ones to blame him for everything that is wrong with Pakistan cricket. Your agenda is so obvious.
 
The_KING said:
Misbah drew a series in England when England were beating every other team at home. He had a series win in New Zealand, series win in Sri Lanka and became the first Pakistani test captain to win a series in West Indies.

I find it funny how people with obvious agendas fail to give Misbah any credit for any of the series victories under his leadership, but you people are the first ones to blame him for everything that is wrong with Pakistan cricket. Your agenda is so obvious.
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Did I pull a string or what? Drew a series in England? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. One thing at a time. Roll it back.

So you’re saying was:
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Misbah drew a series in England when England were beating every other team at home.
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Drawing a Test series in England not a novel achievement. And your argument is totally wrong in every facet possible. The whole premise is flawed and incorrect—you should be lucky that I am even responding to you. England were totally not beating every other team at home. 😝 😝 😝

In 2015, literally a year before, NZ drew a series in England 1-1.

In 2014, literally 2 years before, SL won a series in England 1-0.

In 2016, Misbah apparently should be commended for drawing in England. 😂 Which I just proven to be not a novel thing, completely in contradictory to your claims

If you’re still not convinced that still think drawing in England is an absolutely phenomenal result. Then Angelo Mathews is captaining phenom as well in your point of view. Obviously you’re not gonna accept that.

Misbah is a fringe captain. Case closed.
 
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Babar Rizwan need to stay away from T20s their tuk mentality is a cancer . For t20 WC shaheen can take over . Ayub Harris azam imad need to be playing in WC
For Odis we have time to think
Test . Rizwan or Sarfraz can take over . Babar plays as sole batter in Odis and test
 
The key is for the PCB to not make any knee jerk actions/reactions. There is not much meaningful ODI's after the WC. Should slowly start building a team that is good.

Having said that, Babar is not good captaincy material. He is not a leader. Sachin Tendulkar comes to mind. Great bat but not a good leader. Babar needs to do what Tendulkar did. Self realize his leadership shortcomings and withdraw from leadership role. Concentrate on his batting and flourish in that role.

I am not sure who the next captaincy candidate is though. Not sure if Afridi is or should be burdened with captaincy. It is for the PCB to determine, plan and execute a good plan to turn this team around.
 
By making the poor guy the captain we are losing the services of the Babar the batsman . He cannot perform as captain and a batter at the same time.
 
Even a player of Babar calibre will be made sacrificial goat thats the irony of Pakistan cricket, heck even Clive Lloyd or Steve Waugh will find it hard to set field for Haris Rauf Usama Mir and Shadab
 
Before the squad anouncement, there was a long meeting between Babar, pcb chairman, selection committee, team managment and the technical committee.

Technical committee made advises to Babar that because this tournament was to be held in India, where spin will play a factor and plus there was no turn by the spinners in Sri Lanka, babar shoud consider dropping the current spinners and going for someone like Abrar Ahmad who is a mystery spinner and each team will play him only once and can be affected.

The committee also recommended that Imad Wasim should also be taken along. They also said that consider Saim Ayub because pakistan plays too much conventional cricket, they can benefit with someone that plays abit attacking and aggressive cricket.

There were reservations with Abdullah Shafique getting selected as they fel he has little experience and can be a risk.

Anyways, Babar paid no heed and said he wants only these guys....


Now let me remind you that during the 2019 wprld cup, Usman Shinwari was coming in as the highest wicket taker, but sarfraz and Arthur knew that he was leaking runs and bowled bad length. They took a hard decision to drop him and have him replaced. They bought someone like Wahab Riaz in.

That gamble paid off as Riaz bowled really well along with the other pacers.

Similarly in 2015 pakistan played sohail khan and haris sohail as an all rounder

2011 pakistan bought in abdur rehman .

Yes, Babars gamble on Abdullah Shafique worked, but his bowling gamble did not. Pakistan does not have a single bowler that can help save the team and it stands exposes badly. I wonder who were the other bowlrrs that the committee reccomanded


Babar should had understand that he sucks as a captain, and the technical committee had some experience heads that have played years of cricket andnknow what they were talking about. The last three losses happened due to the issues that were not resolved. The committee proved itself to be right
 
Slim said:
Indications are there - PCB did a revision to central contracts few days ago with Sarfraz getting B level category, a promotion - my suspicion is that it could point to him becoming the test captain. Lets see.
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It's not a problem to keep Babar as the Test captain because he hasn't had sufficient experience in Test cricket yet. Appointing Sarfraz as the Test captain would be a terrible and regressive choice. However, Babar should be relieved of the limited overs captaincy. But making Shadab the limited overs captain would also be a poor decision
 
Imad and Saim would have made all the difference from current position to a team which could win WC?

Are you REALLY sure about that?
 
Itachi said:
Imad and Saim would have made all the difference from current position to a team which could win WC?

Are you REALLY sure about that?
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Reread what i wrote. The focus wasnt saim ayub

The focus was on abrar ahmad. The spinners currently are soo bad that someone like abrar or kaybe imad aswell would had made a hell lot of difference. Thibgs have become a big joke right where our spin ers cant even turn and ifti has more spin to his bowling.
 
topspin said:
Misbah was not a good test captain.

The truth is Misbah is made to look good in tests played in UAE because Sarfraz didn't have the same success in tests played in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah. This is largely because the team Younis Khan had retired prior to his appointment as captain. He was an ATG player of spin bowling and an absolute beast in the UAE. After the retirements of him and Misbah, the team was in transition. The batting line up after MisYou was inept against spin. Even Babar got schooled by Sri Lankan spinners in the 2017 series.

Also Sarfraz didn't benefit from the chucking services of Ajmal and Hafeez.

Every captain needs good players to win matches. However, outside the UAE is where Misbah got ruthlessly exposed. In 2013, Pakistan lost a test match and therefore failed to win a series against an awful Zimbabwe side. It was at this moment, when Misbah should've retired gracefully from international cricket. Had he done so, he would've been respected for how he led Pakistan cricket in a dignified manner following the 2010 spot fixing scandal.

But where he got really exposed was during the 2016/17 Australia series. It was so bad that the Australian comm. box were humiliating him, most notably by Ian Chappell who lashed out at Misbah for his shambolic tactics. He's the worst captain in tests played in Australia. I'll never forget how he bowled Yasir Shah to the ground and all those horrible leg-side fields. It was insufferable for Pakistan fans watching test cricket at the time of this series.

His defensive captaincy also cost us a test series win against England in 2016 when Pakistan had a lead of over 100 runs. Instead of searching for wickets he let England score easy runs because he decided to set defensive fields after the first 10 overs. They ended up racking up 445, leaving Pakistan in a vulnerable position, having to survive the final day of the test match. As expected they failed to accomplish this.

His captaincy in tests as bad as what it was in white ball cricket but his success in test cricket is overstated and quite simply exaggerated by his fans.
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Misbah has retired and long gone, but this guy is still stuck in the past and 9 out of his 10 post are about misbah. As if misbah did something to him personally and he has been affected by it mentally. Even the fans dont talk about misbah that much as this guy does. Everyone knows what this guy talks about soo predictive.

Thread could be about ww2 and this guy will still write an essay on misbah blaming him for ww2.
 
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Mercurial said:
It's not a problem to keep Babar as the Test captain because he hasn't had sufficient experience in Test cricket yet. Appointing Sarfraz as the Test captain would be a terrible and regressive choice. However, Babar should be relieved of the limited overs captaincy. But making Shadab the limited overs captain would also be a poor decision
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Oh bhai. For gods sakes kill the animal from his misery.

This was the same bsnwe heard after world t20 that oh babar hasnt done bad in odi keep him in odis and look what happened


The guy is bad in test captaincy from day 1
 
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You would have had to replace 5 or 6 players including Babar before any change in performance happened.

At that point, you wonder if all the replacements would have failed too.
 
Sarfraz was your best player of spin who could keep score board running in middle and also having him on field would have helped babar quite a lot . Sarfraz over saud or Agha would have been good choice . Imad in place of Nawaz would have been another good choice . Ayub in place of fakhar would have been a bold move and definitely abrar ahead of usama . Zaman ahead of wasim jnr .
 
SamNJ said:
Did Misbah reveal this on Pavallion or Hafeez on PTV ?
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Both did. Misbah revelated that imad, abrar and saim ayub were being preferred. They were hard on abrar to be added as they knew how crucial spin was in this world cup.

They had reservations with abdullah shafique getting selected, but Abdullah proved them wrong
 
Asif321 said:
Sarfraz was your best player of spin who could keep score board running in middle and also having him on field would have helped babar quite a lot . Sarfraz over saud or Agha would have been good choice . Imad in place of Nawaz would have been another good choice . Ayub in place of fakhar would have been a bold move and definitely abrar ahead of usama . Zaman ahead of wasim jnr .
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Bro sarfraz cant score more than 30 runs. Move on from him
 
Zaka Ashraf was keen on picking Mohd Amir as a replacement for Naseem Shah but everyone refused to support the move.
 
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