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[VIDEOS] Is Babar Azam the right choice as ODI captain for Pakistan?

Is Babar Azam the right choice as ODI captain for Pakistan?

  • Yes, he is the best person to lead Pakistan in ODIs

    Votes: 45 33.8%

  • No, not the right choice

    Votes: 88 66.2%
  • Total voters
    133
Savak said:
Everyone who saw how Babar Azam led the Karachi Kings Franchise in the 2022 season could tell it was only a matter of time before he would bring his panoti leadership skills to the national team. That should have sent alarm bells ringing in the PCB but they were delusional that he would turn out to be a good captain for the national team.
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So these days, you are against Babar the leader?
 
Slim said:
Indications are there - PCB did a revision to central contracts few days ago with Sarfraz getting B level category, a promotion - my suspicion is that it could point to him becoming the test captain. Lets see.
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Yes and doing that in the middle of wc was extremely poor on PCB's part (we all know PCB like other organizations are run by politicians rather than qualified people)
Babar losing captaincy isn't going to be that bad IMO but it's the disjointed body language of the whole squad that is worrisome that too especially after chasing 340+.

Zaka Ashraf was awful in his previous tenure as well. He leeched on all funds of PCB and made himself the chief guest in every Pak match during 2011-13. Made enemies with BCB with his mafia approach.

Mickey for all his alpha male persona has failed to instill any discipline as well. Pak team has been devoid of any strategy or planning in terms of fielding.
 
Rana said:
So your parameter is wrong.

South Africa have a non performing captain, but the team is looking like they are winning the World Cup. If Pakistan had stayed patient with Sarfaraz, you would most probably have had a side today that would be competing for top 4 after 5 games in India, not looking hopelessly out of it
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Sarfraz himself is actually a handy batter. He gets actually good runs in the middle order unlike Iftikhar, Nawaz, Shadab, Saud, etc.
 
Rana said:
So your parameter is wrong.

South Africa have a non performing captain, but the team is looking like they are winning the World Cup. If Pakistan had stayed patient with Sarfaraz, you would most probably have had a side today that would be competing for top 4 after 5 games in India, not looking hopelessly out of it
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Sarfraz is not some messiah with great numbers when he was captain, that we sacrifice a spot for His Highness. We got destroyed by India, Australia and West Indies, and relied on a last ditch effort from Imad to beat Afghanistan in the 2019WC.

Unbelievable revisionism taking place from some disgusting fans and part of social media.
 
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Azhar Ali's comments were interesting i.e. it was wrong to make Babar an all powerful captain, he lost his way after that. The PCB should back and support their captains within reason and captains need to explain their vision to their higher ups in terms of where do they wish to take their teams going forward in the next few years, what are their goals, plans e.t.c., but you can't give blind power to someone i.e. do as you wish.

Azhar Ali is still smarting about how Babar ruthlessly kicked him out of the test team.
 
The cat is out of the bag now Shahid afridi aqib Javed saying make Shaheen captain asap LQ agenda against Baba
 
AAli98 said:
The cat is out of the bag now Shahid afridi aqib Javed saying make Shaheen captain asap LQ agenda against Baba
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Nonsense. Shaheen is barely fit, what happens if he has to miss a few games? Cummins has an able deputy in Smith, who will Shaheen have? And what’s the guarantee that player will not stab Shaheen in the back, if he does well?
 
Usman Chadda said:
Nonsense. Shaheen is barely fit, what happens if he has to miss a few games? Cummins has an able deputy in Smith, who will Shaheen have? And what’s the guarantee that player will not stab Shaheen in the back, if he does well?
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Yeah shaheen cannot be made captain at this point. Not because of his lack of ability, but lack of fitness and injury concerns. If anyone, It could only be rizwan who is one of the strongest contributors for Pakistan with the bat. And also being wicket keeper is an ideal position for calling the shots on the field. I think shaheen should be vice captain.
 
ArabKnight said:
Did I pull a string or what? Drew a series in England? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. One thing at a time. Roll it back.

So you’re saying was:
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Drawing a Test series in England not a novel achievement. And your argument is totally wrong in every facet possible. The whole premise is flawed and incorrect—you should be lucky that I am even responding to you. England were totally not beating every other team at home. 😝 😝 😝

In 2015, literally a year before, NZ drew a series in England 1-1.

In 2014, literally 2 years before, SL won a series in England 1-0.

In 2016, Misbah apparently should be commended for drawing in England. 😂 Which I just proven to be not a novel thing, completely in contradictory to your claims

If you’re still not convinced that still think drawing in England is an absolutely phenomenal result. Then Angelo Mathews is captaining phenom as well in your point of view. Obviously you’re not gonna accept that.

Misbah is a fringe captain. Case closed.
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Under Misbah, Pakistan were the only nation that stayed unbeaten against England home or away. Do your research.

People lack cricketing knowledge so resort to making a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong with Pakistan cricket and that scapegoat happens to be Misbah.
 
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Last Night Misbha warned Babar that you will be removed from Captaincy so now be careful, now you there is 90% chance you will be dropped as player because now PCB will coming for a smart excuse that "Babar Strike rate is low so they will chop Babar and Imam and if Inzi does not agree than he will pack bags as well so he said now you just play for self because they will not spare you".
 
shokz1408 said:
Yeah shaheen cannot be made captain at this point. Not because of his lack of ability, but lack of fitness and injury concerns. If anyone, It could only be rizwan who is one of the strongest contributors for Pakistan with the bat. And also being wicket keeper is an ideal position for calling the shots on the field. I think shaheen should be vice captain.
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Shaheen can be made captain while having Abdullah as second captain for B/C/zimbabwe level series with shaheen having veto power over squad selection so abdullah doesnt forgets his place. Rizwan is toxic asf, and having him as captain would be a disaster.
 
Remove Babar Azam from captaincy, cry Pakistan stalwarts​


Karachi: Pakistan’s World Cup campaign might be standing on the brink after their shock defeat against Afghanistan and former players tore into captain Babar Azam and other players for their poor performance in the tournament.

Be it Wasim Akram, Misbah ul Haq, Ramiz Raja, Rashid Latif, Muhammad Hafeez, Aaqib Javed, Shoaib Malik, Moin Khan or Shoaib Akhtar, Babar was blamed for the run of Pakistan’s defeats against India, Australia and Afghanistan.

Babar didn’t help his cause either by deciding to give away a bat to Afghanistan opener Rahmanullah Gurbaz in Chennai after the eight-wicket defeat.

But the gesture has not gone down well in the cricket circles here, adding to the cries to replace Babar as captain.

Aaqib said on TV that Shaheen Shah Afridi should be made Pakistan captain in the white ball formats in place of Babar.

“Shaheen is the best bet for the future of Pakistan cricket. Babar has failed to prove himself as an able captain in white ball formats,” the former pacer said.

Aaqib who is the Director and head coach of PSL team Lahore Qalandars for which Shaheen, Haris Rauf, Fakhar Zaman and Abdullah Shafique play also criticised all other players except Rauf for not coming to the party against Afghanistan.

Pakistan now have to win all their remaining four games against England, South Africa, New Zealand and Bangladesh to stand any chance of qualifying for the semifinals.

“The fielding and body language of the players was very poor and unconvincing (against Afghanistan). They just didn’t appear capable of defending 283 which is not a small total. The bowling was ordinary and the fielding levels were pathetic,” Akram said.

Akram also noted that surprisingly no fitness tests had been held for Pakistan players for the last one year.

“In modern day cricket how do you expect to do well if you are not 100 percent fit? How can you take catches or stop boundaries?

“The way some of our players fielded it appeared as if they were enjoying a diet of rich dishes and food,” he said.

Misbah said Babar’s captaincy left much to be desired and his bowling changes and field placings were amateurish.

“He has wasted Haris Rauf by bringing him on in the power play when there are only two fielders outside the circle. Haris was hit in his first over (against Australia) and he lost all confidence.

“He should be brought on with at least a sweeper at cover and three other fielders on the leg-side deep,” Misbah said.

Ironically, Misbah and Akram had played a pivotal role in convincing the PCB to make Babar captain of all formats, dumping Sarfaraz Ahmed after the 2019 World Cup.

Former Pakistan all-rounder, Razzaq accused Babar of spoiling the game of other players and noted that against Bangladesh, Shafique was batting aggressively and he changed the game once Babar came into bat.

“When Babar bats slowly it has an adverse effect on other batters who then can’t play their natural game and this is affecting Pakistan’s strike rate in this tournament,” Razzaq said.
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Shahid Afridi about Babar Azam’s captaincy:

“When you are not in the game, when you are hiding inside a shell, when you are not positive... sometimes, I feel we keep waiting for a miracle. But miracles only happen when you know how to fight. See, captain is everything. If he puts the efforts in fielding, dives a lot, runs around and backs his boys, the team gels up and puts extra efforts. Because if the captain is putting that much efforts, his teammate would feel ashamed if he doesn't put the similar effort,”

“I was captain, so was Mohammad Yousuf. If the captain wasn't doing much, no one would get the motivation. It's the captain's role to put pressure. Fast bowler is bowling, you have only 4 runs to defend, there's no slip. You don't even have a fielder at point,”​
 
BouncerGuy said:
Shahid Afridi about Babar Azam’s captaincy:

“When you are not in the game, when you are hiding inside a shell, when you are not positive... sometimes, I feel we keep waiting for a miracle. But miracles only happen when you know how to fight. See, captain is everything. If he puts the efforts in fielding, dives a lot, runs around and backs his boys, the team gels up and puts extra efforts. Because if the captain is putting that much efforts, his teammate would feel ashamed if he doesn't put the similar effort,”

“I was captain, so was Mohammad Yousuf. If the captain wasn't doing much, no one would get the motivation. It's the captain's role to put pressure. Fast bowler is bowling, you have only 4 runs to defend, there's no slip. You don't even have a fielder at point,”​
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lol shahid afridi talking about captaincy.

4 runs needed and a slip? Why would place slip for 4 runs needed? Slip is only in place if a new batter is there or if the pitch has movement. IF a player has scored 80+ runs you dont need slip for him
 
Savak said:
Azhar Ali is still smarting about how Babar ruthlessly kicked him out of the test team.
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the fact that he allowed Azhar to play on considering how pathetic Azhar was in his last 2-3 years is also a mystery.

Azhar has nothing to get upset about. He was lucky babar was so pathetic that he allowed him to continue so long.

Sadly, all of these are further examples of what a poor captain and visionary babar was.
 
Major said:
lol shahid afridi talking about captaincy.

4 runs needed and a slip? Why would place slip for 4 runs needed? Slip is only in place if a new batter is there or if the pitch has movement. IF a player has scored 80+ runs you dont need slip for him
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Afridi was a gun captain? He led 2011 well. He was a garbage 2016 t20 captain though. Horrible lol.

Also afridi isn't talking about field settings so don't know you're making fun of his field settings. He's talking about leading from example which he did in 2011.

People clown afridi but the guy was a role model to the point movies like mein hoon shahid afridi are made about him.

The guy was aggressive, attacked, bowled well and fielded well. He just should have retired in 2014 and not continued the next 2 years. And afridi did back his boys in 2011 constantly, something Babar does not do.
 
TheSultan said:
the fact that he allowed Azhar to play on considering how pathetic Azhar was in his last 2-3 years is also a mystery.

Azhar has nothing to get upset about. He was lucky babar was so pathetic that he allowed him to continue so long.

Sadly, all of these are further examples of what a poor captain and visionary babar was.
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Azhar was pathetic in the last 2 or 3 years but he 200x the test player that babar was in his prime. Besides YK no one scores winning 200 to 300's lol.

Azhar had poor form and should have been dropped yes but he wasn't dropped due to poor form that's the thing. If that was the case, Sheddy would have dropped ages ago, Nawaz would be history for the atrocity he committed against India in 2022 world cup.

Everyone on the planet knows poor form and great form is not the criteria of selection when babar is captain. That's what azhar is saying and azhar is 200% correct in that regard.

Wanna drop azhar? Perfect drop him for poor form, but was he dropped for poor form? Be honest?
 
As for yousaf, don't know why afridi mentioned him, yousaf was another softie lol
 
Not sure about the idea to open the bowling with Ifti's gentle off-spin.

Strange decision.
 
The opposition need 57 off 90 balls and he is still giving the opposition batters easy singles.
 
Saj said:
The opposition need 57 off 90 balls and he is still giving the opposition batters easy singles.
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This being an important game, why cant Mickey message him to fix this?
 
That was a masterclass by Babar Azam to bring on Usama who gets the BIG wicket of Markram.

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Idiotic decision.

You know he can't even last a few balls against the spinners and he is coming in the 16th over.

Your only power hitter is out and it is not even the end overs.

Absolutely criminal.
 
Babar needs to be booted he he has 0 game awareness
chacha is only good in the first 10 overs and the last 10 overs
 
OP makes sense your best batsman should get the chance to play maximum overs, by promoting Ifti we undermined Saud' ability yet he managed a run a ball Fifty , another clueless move Babar and Micky
 
Credit to Imran Khan. He saw him
batting on TV against NZ in 2019 world cup and decided to make him captain. With decisions like these no wonder we are in a mess.
 
topspin said:
Babar, this is what you deserve for picking Nawaz ahead of Imad. It's called divine justice.

I appreciate the game was over by the time all the seamers had bowled out but what a pathetic short pitched delivery down the leg-side to Maharaj.
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Karma hits like a truck honestly.

Ironically babar is the first person in history to have karma strick him 2x 😂😂. Once against India, now against sa.

I don't even understand, in t20 NZ series imad dismantled the entire NZ squad except for Chapman playing a blinder in one game.

He also nearly won that Chapman game with his batting if rizzu hadn't been a Crybaby saying no please take a single so I can get my 100.

Babar clearly saw how good imad is, and he still goes with nawaz?

I'm genuinely curious. Has nawaz taken a single wicket this world cup? Did he take any wickets in Asia cup post Nepal game? And if he didn't ans their is only one wicket left, why would you bring a spinner who has yet to take a wicket, to take the last wicket? 💀
 
It’s costing PAK two ways - stuck with a nervous, clueless & reactive captain …. And, missing team’s by far best batsman in full flow.

But he shouldn’t be sacked - that’ll be disgraceful for a player still has another 10 years of PAK career left. They should explain him the situation & give him enough time to resign of his own - it shouldn’t be like they land at Lahore and next day Babar calls for a press briefing.
 
mominsaigol said:
Karma hits like a truck honestly.

Ironically babar is the first person in history to have karma strick him 2x 😂😂. Once against India, now against sa.

I don't even understand, in t20 NZ series imad dismantled the entire NZ squad except for Chapman playing a blinder in one game.

He also nearly won that Chapman game with his batting if rizzu hadn't been a Crybaby saying no please take a single so I can get my 100.

Babar clearly saw how good imad is, and he still goes with nawaz?

I'm genuinely curious. Has nawaz taken a single wicket this world cup? Did he take any wickets in Asia cup post Nepal game? And if he didn't ans their is only one wicket left, why would you bring a spinner who has yet to take a wicket, to take the last wicket? 💀
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Everyone could see Imad was in the best form of his life. He showcased this during the PSL and also in the T20 games he played for Pakistan.

Babar was just insecure and saw Imad as threat to his long-term captaincy aspirations. This is why you have to put your differences aside and think for the greater good of your team. Misbah and Ramiz Raja are also to blame for feeding his ego. The latter made him believe he was the next coming of IK by allowing to be judge, jury and executioner of Pakistan cricket.
 
topspin said:
Everyone could see Imad was in the best form of his life. He showcased this during the PSL and also in the T20 games he played for Pakistan.

Babar was just insecure and saw Imad as threat to his long-term captaincy aspirations. This is why you have to put your differences aside and think for the greater good of your team. Misbah and Ramiz Raja are also to blame for feeding his ego. The latter made him believe he was the next coming of IK by allowing to be judge, jury and executioner of Pakistan cricket.
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All I will say is, I believe in God. Have always believed in him, and have always believed in his karmic justice.

Let God do his work, and babar will be fine. No more I'm so sorry babar please don't cry, here's a cake.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Because he knows that both will kicked out from the team together.
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I would love for someone to make a is babar azam the worlds best captain thread, and is Muhammad nawaz the worlds best bowler thread.

Something needs to top the is Muhammad rizwan the worlds best batter thread 👀
 
MMHS said:
It’s costing PAK two ways - stuck with a nervous, clueless & reactive captain …. And, missing team’s by far best batsman in full flow.

But he shouldn’t be sacked - that’ll be disgraceful for a player still has another 10 years of PAK career left. They should explain him the situation & give him enough time to resign of his own - it shouldn’t be like they land at Lahore and next day Babar calls for a press briefing.
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He is not even reactive. He just sits there and lets the game drift and depends on luck. The way the game has evolved over the last decade strategy and tactics have become more important. With the varied field restrictions you have to work out your oppositions game and plan and execute accordingly cutting angles, playing matchups where you can. Moreover, with the faster pace of the game especially on dead tracks like these you just cannot afford to let the game drift unless you have more than 350 on the board. You need someone astute and proactive. Today Babar was a lot better than he was in the previous games but still let the game drift in decisive periods of play and that left Pakistan with very few to defend in the last overs with not enough wickets having fallen. For instance just two examples: 1. as you rightly pointed out Haris bowled too many up front like every other match and got clobbered when today he could have easily held back an over as Wasim was bowling pretty well but Babar pulled him out of the attack after just 2 overs 2. When miller initially came in Babar should have gone for Shaheen or Ifti as a wicket at that point would have sealed the game but he gave it to Usama and Miller duly spanked him and settled down.
i agree with the approach but both of us know no Pakistani captain other than Imran has left on his own. and Babar just doesn’t seem to be the kind of introspective person who would take that well.
 
Captaincy change in ODI needs to happen soon.

Pakistan need a fresh start with a new captain.

Babar never should've been the ODI captain anyway.
 
How is it that kane williamson who's injured is still leading NZ from the front but babar who is present is leading from behind?
 
'Not Matured, Great...': Ex-Pakistan Captain Namedrops 'Rohit Sharma' In Advice To Babar Azam

With four defeats on the bounce, Pakistan's hopes of qualiying for the semi-finals of the Cricket World Cup 2023 hangs by a thread. On Friday, Pakistan suffered a heartbreaking one-wicket loss to South Africa in Chennai. Amid Pakistan's struggles in the ongoing Cricket World Cup, former skipper Mohammad Hafeez shared his views on Babar's leadership skills. Hafeez feels despite being in charge of the team for nearly three years, Babar lacks maturity as a captain, adding that it is too early to compare him with greats of Pakistan cricket.

"When it comes to Babar's captaincy, that maturity isn't quite there yet. He has been in charge of the team for three years and the tactical growth hasn't been there either. When he's called a great Pakistan player, then I have doubts over it. Those who say that probably haven't seen greats of the game - from Pakistan and around the world. Yes, he is a very, very good player. He is not great yet. He has to prove a lot of right things - and there are stages yet to come in his career. We are putting a tag on him before he's reached those stages. That's pressure on him, and when he's not able to perform in big tournaments, the load of expectations is so high, that people then deal it in a wrong way," Hafeez said on PTV Sports.

Giving the example of India captain Rohit Sharma, who is one of the top scorers in the tournament so far, Hafeez urged Babar to lead the team from the front, adding that he needs to bring aggression into his game.

"If Babar thinks that the pressure is getting the better of him or it has affected his game, then he has to make the whether he wants to continue like this or finish his career like of some of Pakistan's greatest players. Right now, he is the captain of Pakistan, so it we should back Babar. But, he has to improve his game, in terms of aggression. Rohit Sharma has been successful because he is leading from the front," he added.

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Looks like Sarfaraz is coming back as captain soon. Musical chairs will continue. Rumors that Zaka Ashraf has already met Sarfraz behind the scenes.
 
Energy said:
Looks like Sarfaraz is coming back as captain soon. Musical chairs will continue. Rumors that Zaka Ashraf has already met Sarfraz behind the scenes.
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Where’s the rumours?

He OPENLY met him with Pakistan’s foreign minister (Shahnawaz Dahani) in the PCB chairman’s office
 
Nawaz was wicketless the whole tournament , he is not in rhythm at all going into this WC...

Usama Mir got Markrams wicket and then Shaheen got Coetzee in the next over , gave 1 over to Usama and then he stopped him and brought in all the pacers... Had he kept him going with the pacers on from the other end , could have wrapped the overs and the match with wickets...

Babar is simply doesnt have it in him to be the captain , he showcased many times that he can lose the match from winning positions.. 250/8 with everyone back in the hut , he got Shaheen , Wasim , Haris rauf and Usama to take the remaining 2 wickets , easy peesy just apply pressure , plan for the wicket taking deliveries, boss the match literally but he lost it completely...
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Nawaz was wicketless the whole tournament , he is not in rhythm at all going into this WC...

Usama Mir got Markrams wicket and then Shaheen got Coetzee in the next over , gave 1 over to Usama and then he stopped him and brought in all the pacers... Had he kept him going with the pacers on from the other end , could have wrapped the overs and the match with wickets...

Babar is simply doesnt have it in him to be the captain , he showcased many times that he can lose the match from winning positions.. 250/8 with everyone back in the hut , he got Shaheen , Wasim , Haris rauf and Usama to take the remaining 2 wickets , easy peesy just apply pressure , plan for the wicket taking deliveries, boss the match literally but he lost it completely...
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You should see what the likes of Gautam Gambhir, Harbhajan Singh, Aakash Chopra, Dinesh Karthik have to say about Babar's captaincy.

Very embarrassing
 
Shahid Afridi speaking on TV

"I wanted myself to be proven wrong. I wanted Babar to become a better captain with time, but that didn't happen. Yes, he kept becoming a big player but I wanted him to become as big a captain as he is a player, honestly speaking, I couldn't see in Babar what I was hoping [to see]"

"A leader doesn't fear failure, he takes his chances with a full heart, especially when you are a good performer individually and there is no fear of losing your captaincy. He [Babar] has been the captain for four years now and I have never seen someone being a captain for this long, not just that, he also got the support of everyone.

"Why do you think a leader is a leader? Because he doesn't think like the other 10 players in the ground. He [a captain] has to do different [out of the box] things, he takes decisions and faces [the consequences],"

"So I think that apart from the management and coach, Babar should communicate with 5-6 senior players because when you do that, those players start to give their all. I have played in this team, and I know you cannot just ask two to three players and ignore the others, this creates problems. You have to consider them all equally. So when you win, you all win and when you lose, you all lose."
 
Zaka Asharf Interview to Ary.

He says that at least recent Captain when Misbha or Sarfarz was captain still team was weak i understand but basically they had some common sense and they were pro active captain but i know player were not that good but at least tried to make sense ,however, in Babar Captaincy and team has lost the common sense and game awareness as well.
 
Afridi lambasted team culture as well as Babar's captainy on a talk show earlier today. This is what he had to say:

"Other teams lose and they lose as one. If they win, then they win as one. Our problem is that when we lose, we start the blame game and start looking at the weaknesses of others instead of our own weaknesses. Sadly, this has become our culture."

"I had thought that Babar Azam's captaincy would get better with time, but I have not seen his captaincy improving. He kept on becoming a good player for himself, but what I wanted was for him to become a top-level captain in the same way that he is a top-level player; Honestly speaking, I did not see that improvement in Babar as captain for which I had been waiting."

"A leader is one who is not afraid of failure; he takes chances without any worries, Especially if you see that he is a good performer, and he does not have a sword dangling on his head as a captain. He has been captain for about 4 years and I have not seen anyone captain for this long since 2011, and we all supported him."

"A captain is a leader because he looks further ahead than the remaining 10 players on the field."
 
Players will get a lot of further chances to redeem themselves but this leech Zaka will live off his rest of his life in ignominy once another party takes over and he's booted out.
 
There you go PCB making a hill out of mole excellent, a plea to support Pakistan team where PCB itself is holding inquiries and whistle blowing about conspicuous things
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Players will get a lot of further chances to redeem themselves but this leech Zaka will live off his rest of his life in ignominy once another party takes over and he's booted out.
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Somehow, he finds his way back even when everyone thinks he’s gone for good. No one thought we’d be seeing his face again after the significantly more professional and qualified admins we’ve had before him.
 
Babar needs Tendulkar-like awareness of his own captaincy skills. He should be fully confident in his batting ability. But should have the realization that he’s hurting the team tactically and overall by staying on as captain. He will always have unparalleled respect in the dressing room and across the country. He just doesn’t need to be captain for that.
 
brokenrecord said:
Somehow, he finds his way back even when everyone thinks he’s gone for good. No one thought we’d be seeing his face again after the significantly more professional and qualified admins we’ve had before him.
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He spent 9 years out of the picture, this tenure isn't going to end well for him either. The good thing is no one would be vying for his comeback except for a few of his poltical allies. He'll probably continue to live a lavish life but won't have any power in Pak Cricket once this stint is done.
 
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RyanRyan10 said:
24 wins in 39 completed matches is an impressive record.
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14/24 of those wins were against the Netherlands, West Indies, Nepal, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. The rest were mostly against underpowered South African (due to IPL), Australian and New Zealand sides (check out those XIs). That's not necessarily his fault if teams weren't sending playing their best XIs. But in all reality, makes those wins less impressive than those against full-strength squads like those at the WC right now.
 
brokenrecord said:
14/24 of those wins were against the Netherlands, West Indies, Nepal, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. The rest were mostly against underpowered South African (due to IPL), Australian and New Zealand sides (check out those XIs). That's not necessarily his fault if teams weren't sending playing their best XIs. But in all reality, makes those wins less impressive than those against full-strength squads like those at the WC right now.
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Spot on.

People don't realise that it's important to see who the opposition is and their strength.
 
Savak said:
Azhar Ali's comments were interesting i.e. it was wrong to make Babar an all powerful captain, he lost his way after that. The PCB should back and support their captains within reason and captains need to explain their vision to their higher ups in terms of where do they wish to take their teams going forward in the next few years, what are their goals, plans e.t.c., but you can't give blind power to someone i.e. do as you wish.

Azhar Ali is still smarting about how Babar ruthlessly kicked him out of the test team.
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he was rightly sent off, but his comments make sense... For any Pakistan to give an all full powerful captain will backfire except some educated folks, what Imran Khan had was determination and the eye for talent followed by backing them to the core... the players he brought in went on to have a 10+ year career along with being captains at a certain stage of their career Wasim, Waqar, Moin, Inzi , etc...
 
Sarfraz being an average cricketer yet he had more sense in him. Never gave Nawaz mental midget a proper chance, because he knew his capacity to deliver.


Babar Azam has no sense in selection, he gave the whole T20 world cup 2021 to Hasan Ali when everyone knew that Hasan Ali simply not good enough for this format. He dropped Imad Wasim from T20 team after 2021 WC for no reason despite performing in that WC.

Selection of Hasan Ali, Nawaz and Usama Mir are biggest blunders of his selection in this WC. Hasan Ali is a finished cricketer yet he got an opportunity without any domestic performance. Don't want to explain further about the disastrous selection of tape ball leg spinner Usama Mir and club level bowler Nawaz.
 
From Michael Vaughan via Criczuzz:

I don’t like the lack of respect that Babar Azam has been shown. It’s a disgrace that these stories are being leaked, these stories that Shaheen Shah Afridi is going to be the captain. Babar Azam is a wonderful player, a world-class and fantastic player for Pakistan, fantastic for the world, and when you see these kinds of stories about captains during a World Cup, leave it till the end. If, at the end of the World Cup, you think he isn’t the right person to take Pakistan forward as a captain, then no problem. You are allowed to make that decision. But during a World Cup and when that gossip is coming from your own board and from people within Pakistan cricket, I find that really disrespectful.
 
The_KING said:
Under Misbah, Pakistan were the only nation that stayed unbeaten against England home or away. Do your research.

People lack cricketing knowledge so resort to making a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong with Pakistan cricket and that scapegoat happens to be Misbah.
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Well he is only captain to lose 4-0 to England in ODIs at UAE (rank turners) , when he had Ajmal, Afridi, Rehman, Hafeez in his armoury , he is also the captain to lose a test match against Zimbabwe
 
Saj said:
Stuck to Plan A.

If he had attacked more, Bangladesh could have been 170 or 180 all out.
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That is been lacking from Babar big time.. He let the out of form Shakib to stay there for 60+ balls, its been written on the wall that he is been struggling with the short ball throughout the tournament...

I always say Pakistan have the players to win matches just that they dont play them , the team picked today was good but again they have to play Hasan ali instead of Rauf who seems not know how to bowl in this part of the world , lack of FC is a big reason for that..

They also need to play Saud at 4..
 
u can see he's not able to perform due to captaincy pressure, he needs to step down and focus on this batting just like Kohli.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Well he is only captain to lose 4-0 to England in ODIs at UAE (rank turners) , when he had Ajmal, Afridi, Rehman, Hafeez in his armoury , he is also the captain to lose a test match against Zimbabwe
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No one is saying Misbah was a good ODI captain. And losing to Zimbabwe in tests was bad, but upsets happen.
 
I don’t watch the press conferences but I bet none of Pakistan’s dumb “sports” journalists asked him why Hasan was preferred over a bowler who was sitting on the bench for over a year.

So many questions to be asked but no one intelligent enough to ask.
 
Useless captain

3 of his match winners didn't play today and pakistan won

Imam shadab nawaz
 
Babar is taking too much pressure these days because of captaincy which is spoiling his game too.

This is actually not good for his mental well being so i think he must concentrate on his batting and should leave captaincy of all formats voluntarily.
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Babar made a right choice I guess to bowl first but the bowlers are not doing their job atm. Lots of wide stuff an Freebies, Iftikhar was brought early. Not sure if he can provide control but he really should be able to bowl well here. 2 lefties on the crease for him
 
Babar's opposition got strong point today bowling on a flat deck at Bengalore turned out to be blunder game finished for Pakistan in 40 out of 100 overs , pathetic.

My personal take is Babar chickened out today by bowling First putting the onus on bowlers. Muddled captaincy again
 
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