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[VIDEOS] Is Shaheen Shah Afridi the best fast-bowler in the world right now?

He is still the best bowler we have had since shoaib retired. Shaheen can't carry a team all by himself in test cricket.

In odi his numbers still look great. He needs to work on getting the old ball to move though. For a tall guy he doesn't get enough bounce. If he hits the right lengths with the old ball he can be even more deadly. Plus he has quite a good stamina level. Supremely fit athlete. At one point he was bowling the most balls. We over worked him and caused his injury. Players can obviously come back strong from injuries and medicine in general is far more advanced now given how stem cell therapy is helping lot of top athletes in the world to recover. He will light up the world cup in my opinion nevertheless. He is our real hope.

Naseem is a quality bowler himself but sadly he is injured so the onus is now all on our shaheen.
 
If Shaheen performs well in major events like the World Cup than we can indeed consider him as a great player.
 
Shaheen is deteriorating. He has lost a yard of pace.
 
Gill really took Shaheen apart and punctured that aura of invincibility.

Jadeja did that to Waqar.
Sehwag to Gul.

Shaheen had to be absolutely up for it in this World Cup. He is Asian bloc's best hope for a 2nd semifinalist .
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Honestly dont remember anything significant he achieved in 2019 world cup.

plz correct me if i am wrong!
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15-16 wickets in five matches and that was his debut world cup.

Shaheen is one of the best fast bowlers in the world, across formats. As long as he stays healthy, he'll become one of the GOATs, InshaAllah.
 
He’s up there.
I reckon a peak fitness Bumrah is still the best all formats bowler in the world because of his unique ability of being a wicket taking threat at any given point in a match. Even during a random patch in the middle overs you can bring Bumrah back for just 1 over and expect something to happen. For that ability alone, i rate him above anyone if he’s fit.


Then you have Rabada also, who has been bit of a sleeping giant recently but again a fit and raging Rabada can be a major problem for any batting line up.

Shaheen Afridi is arguably the best right now going by consistency however.
 
Bhaijaan said:
He’s up there.
I reckon a peak fitness Bumrah is still the best all formats bowler in the world because of his unique ability of being a wicket taking threat at any given point in a match. Even during a random patch in the middle overs you can bring Bumrah back for just 1 over and expect something to happen. For that ability alone, i rate him above anyone if he’s fit.


Then you have Rabada also, who has been bit of a sleeping giant recently but again a fit and raging Rabada can be a major problem for any batting line up.

Shaheen Afridi is arguably the best right now going by consistency however.
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Would say this:

Tests - Cummins or bumrah
Odi - probably hazlewood siraj and shaheen
T20 - hazlewood naseem rauf
 
There is a lot of delusion here. The Shaheen of 2021 T20 WC was right up there. He’s not the same anymore.
 
kron said:
Would say this:

Tests - Cummins or bumrah
Odi - probably hazlewood siraj and shaheen
T20 - hazlewood naseem rauf
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I’m very sure Rabada is going to make a big come back and make his presence felt as a Top G
 
topspin said:
He was our best bowler in the 2019 WC, 2021 and 2022 WT20 tournaments.
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Also I should add, he was nowhere near 100% fit in last year's WT20.

Pakistan have mismanaged this guy and have run him to the ground by playing in every meaningless white ball game.

Can't see how he's overrated. For me he's Pakistan's best player. He's the only world class player we have in all 3 formats.
 
topspin said:
Also I should add, he was nowhere near 100% fit in last year's WT20.

Pakistan have mismanaged this guy and have run him to the ground by playing in every meaningless white ball game.

Can't see how he's overrated. For me he's Pakistan's best player. He's the only world class player we have in all 3 formats.
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Yep. Makes me really sad.

As a talent, He's as special as they come.
 
Gil and Rohit humiliated him and Shaheen was made to look like a school boy with no answers.

Hopefully he will now realize that when bowling to world class batsmen, just bowling that full blooded pitched up inswinger on the yorker length is not enough and that you need to have more tools up your sleeve at this level.

Shaheen also has to work on his second, third spell and old ball bowling skills. Playing so many T20s has diminished his ODI bowling skills and endurance.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Gill really took Shaheen apart and punctured that aura of invincibility.

Jadeja did that to Waqar.
Sehwag to Gul.

Shaheen had to be absolutely up for it in this World Cup. He is Asian bloc's best hope for a 2nd semifinalist .
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I think a lot of Indians are chest thumping after a fluke innings by Gill where he was dropped thrice in first 5 overs. In the game vs Pak prior he was completely at sea and didn’t look international level batter (11 off 32?). Let’s see if Gill can replicate his performance against a fully fit and top bowling sides in full strength.
 
Savak said:
Gil and Rohit humiliated him and Shaheen was made to look like a school boy with no answers.

Hopefully he will now realize that when bowling to world class batsmen, just bowling that full blooded pitched up inswinger on the yorker length is not enough and that you need to have more tools up your sleeve at this level.

Shaheen also has to work on his second, third spell and old ball bowling skills. Playing so many T20s has diminished his ODI bowling skills and endurance.
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Overreactions. Shaheen should not change his strategy one bit. He should go for the wickets and it’s ok if he goes for runs once in a while.
 
Farabi said:
I think a lot of Indians are chest thumping after a fluke innings by Gill where he was dropped thrice in first 5 overs. In the game vs Pak prior he was completely at sea and didn’t look international level batter (11 off 32?). Let’s see if Gill can replicate his performance against a fully fit and top bowling sides in full strength.
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he is good but hint of movement, turn he will get exposed badly. indians need to chillax.
they overrate their batsmen a lot.
 
Farabi said:
I think a lot of Indians are chest thumping after a fluke innings by Gill where he was dropped thrice in first 5 overs. In the game vs Pak prior he was completely at sea and didn’t look international level batter (11 off 32?). Let’s see if Gill can replicate his performance against a fully fit and top bowling sides in full strength.
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Dropped thrice in 5 overs? What kind of cringeworthy cope is this? All I can remember is a ball going through the slip cordon and the other not even carrying to deep third man. How are they "drops"?

Don't make up lies just because the apple of your eye got smashed by Gill.
 
Savak said:
Shaheen is deteriorating. He has lost a yard of pace.
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Did you watch the Asia Cup? If anything, he is finally starting to get his pace back.

I don’t know if you’re paranoid or fearmongering.
 
Mesozoic said:
Dropped thrice in 5 overs? What kind of cringeworthy cope is this? All I can remember is a ball going through the slip cordon and the other not even carrying to deep third man. How are they "drops"?

Don't make up lies just because the apple of your eye got smashed by Gill.
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They were all missed opportunities and could have taken on another day. Gill was very lucky to escape, specially the one that slip fielder didnt attempt to catch.

There is nothing to cope. In today's day and age, every bowler goes for runs every now and then. Overall, Shaheen has dominated Indian batters since 2021. Just because Gill hit 2-3 boundaries on Shaheen, it doesn't qualify as "smashed" lol specially Shaheen got his wicket in second spell as well
 
Mesozoic said:
Dropped thrice in 5 overs? What kind of cringeworthy cope is this? All I can remember is a ball going through the slip cordon and the other not even carrying to deep third man. How are they "drops"?

Don't make up lies just because the apple of your eye got smashed by Gill.
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There were at least 2 missed chances that a good fielding side would not have missed.

While I don’t think there were 3 drops, it definitely wasn’t a chance-less innings.
 
ExpressPacer said:
There were at least 2 missed chances that a good fielding side would not have missed.

While I don’t think there were 3 drops, it definitely wasn’t a chance-less innings.
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I agree. I think there were 2 chances. Maybe 1 was for rohit? not sure...
Anyway, the way shaheen bowls, he lives on the edge. he will go for runs and that is ok. Gill can counter attack all he wants, but its a matter time until he becomes the bunny too
 
Farabi said:
I agree. I think there were 2 chances. Maybe 1 was for rohit? not sure...
Anyway, the way shaheen bowls, he lives on the edge. he will go for runs and that is ok. Gill can counter attack all he wants, but its a matter time until he becomes the bunny too
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Gill is a good batsman but he is being overrated for smashing a handful of second-string attack. His real abilities were apparent in the first game vs Pakistan where he could not buy a run to save his life.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Gill is a good batsman but he is being overrated for smashing a handful of second-string attack. His real abilities were apparent in the first game vs Pakistan where he could not buy a run to save his life.
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Hes def a good batter. You dont get those kinds of stats unless you are really good, but he is certainly being overrated. There have been a number of batters who have attacked Shaheen in the past and actually done a lot better than Gill did. Well done for Gill for scoring a few boundaries but I am not impressed yet because the game prior, he looked really at sea against a quality, fully fit trio of Rauf, Naseem and Shaheen. The second game, i have doubts about their fitness as pace was down and their line was not there, specially Naseem and Rauf.
Loads of batters have taken down shaheen. Roy comes to mind, Travis head, Janneman Malan really took down prime Shaheen in that SA series for example. At home, Saim took on Shaheen in PSL. So will Gill/Rohit and others, nature of the game.
 
Farabi said:
I think a lot of Indians are chest thumping after a fluke innings by Gill where he was dropped thrice in first 5 overs. In the game vs Pak prior he was completely at sea and didn’t look international level batter (11 off 32?). Let’s see if Gill can replicate his performance against a fully fit and top bowling sides in full strength.
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And he came back and absolutely dominated Shaheen, missed chances ot not.

Shaheen vs Shubman 3.0 will be interesting
 
Nikhil_cric said:
And he came back and absolutely dominated Shaheen, missed chances ot not.

Shaheen vs Shubman 3.0 will be interesting
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A few boundaries is not "absolutely dominated". He is a good batsman but has a lot to do before he deserves all the hype he is getting.

Smashing a few second-string attacks is not going to cut it.

Lucky us, we are sitting on the eve of the WC and will find out pretty soon. I think he will struggle against quality sides when it swings. His real abilities were apparent in his shellshocked state vs Pakistan in game 1. I like him though so I hope he proves me wrong.
 
ExpressPacer said:
A few boundaries is not "absolutely dominated". He is a good batsman but has a lot to do before he deserves all the hype he is getting.

Smashing a few second-string attacks is not going to cut it.

Lucky us, we are sitting on the eve of the WC and will find out pretty soon. I think he will struggle against quality sides when it swings. His real abilities were apparent in his shellshocked state vs Pakistan in game 1. I like him though so I hope he proves me wrong.
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To be fair, that goes both ways. The white kookaburra ball has swung more in 2023 than any year since at least 2006.

And swing has come back into the white ball game since 2021, quite a bit.

This is a tough era for openers and the likes of Shaheen have benefited on days that it has swung and seamed massively.

All new ball bowlers have.

The 2nd game was not a second string attack until after Shubman got out. Haris was ruled out only on day 2.

So you could make a case that KL and Kohli benefited more, maybe.

That initial battle between our openers and your new ball attack was clearly won by our openers in the 2nd game.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
To be fair, that goes both ways. The white kookaburra ball has swung more in 2023 than any year since at least 2006.

And swing has come back into the white ball game since 2021, quite a bit.

This is a tough era for openers and the likes of Shaheen have benefited on days that it has swung and seamed massively.

All new ball bowlers have.

The 2nd game was not a second string attack until after Shubman got out. Haris was ruled out only on day 2.

So you could make a case that KL and Kohli benefited more, maybe.

That initial battle between our openers and your new ball attack was clearly won by our openers in the 2nd game.
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the part you are conveniently missing and ignoring is that a player getting ruled out happens when the player simply cannot go on any further. It is highly unlikely that they suddenly broke down. I doubt Rauf and Naseem were fully fit to start with. Specially Naseem as he had been complaining about his shoulder pain since LPL at least. Pak should have rested both in that game.
 
Farabi said:
the part you are conveniently missing and ignoring is that a player getting ruled out happens when the player simply cannot go on any further. It is highly unlikely that they suddenly broke down. I doubt Rauf and Naseem were fully fit to start with. Specially Naseem as he had been complaining about his shoulder pain since LPL at least. Pak should have rested both in that game.
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If your bowlers are not fit enough and your back up pacers were not trusted enough by your own management , then clearly the pace strength after the main trio is not something your TM rates particularly highly

Rohit and Shubman can only win against bowlers they get in front of them.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
If your bowlers are not fit enough and your back up pacers were not trusted enough by your own management , then clearly the pace strength after the main trio is not something your TM rates particularly highly

Rohit and Shubman can only win against bowlers they get in front of them.
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Yes, this should not be an excuse. Pakistani management has been terrible, and players think too short-term. There needs to be more accountability. Fast bowlers came straight from leagues playing every single game, even Nepal and Afghanistan, flying back and forth from Pak to Sl (no direct flights today). Extremely hot temperatures in both countries. The fault is with Pak not India. You are right that Gill and Rohit can only play what is in front of them.
On bench strength, its not that bad, its just undercooked due to lack of rotation.
 
Farabi said:
They were all missed opportunities and could have taken on another day. Gill was very lucky to escape, specially the one that slip fielder didnt attempt to catch.
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What a bizarre logic! Every batsman that plays a relatively longer innings gives some half chances in the course of his knock. If the fielding team doesn't accept them, it's not luck. Fielding too requires skill... you wouldn't call someone "lucky" because he smashed a six off a poor delivery would you?

Farabi said:
There is nothing to cope. In today's day and age, every bowler goes for runs every now and then. Overall, Shaheen has dominated Indian batters since 2021. Just because Gill hit 2-3 boundaries on Shaheen, it doesn't qualify as "smashed" lol specially Shaheen got his wicket in second spell as well
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Lol at 2-3 boundaries. He smashed 7 boundaries against him in just 2 overs and all of them were proper authoritative shots played with sheer dominance. That initial assault pretty much knocked the wind out of Pakistan's sails.

And no...Shaheen did not "dominate" Indian batters lol. He played 5 games against India , failed in 3 , performed in 2 and ended up winning just 1. No matter how desperate you are, you can't term that as domination.
 
Mesozoic said:
What a bizarre logic! Every batsman that plays a relatively longer innings gives some half chances in the course of his knock. If the fielding team doesn't accept them, it's not luck. Fielding too requires skill... you wouldn't call someone "lucky" because he smashed a six off a poor delivery would you?



Lol at 2-3 boundaries. He smashed 7 boundaries against him in just 2 overs and all of them were proper authoritative shots played with sheer dominance. That initial assault pretty much knocked the wind out of Pakistan's sails.

And no...Shaheen did not "dominate" Indian batters lol. He played 5 games against India , failed in 3 , performed in 2 and ended up winning just 1. No matter how desperate you are, you can't term that as domination.
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2 of those games are around Shaheen’s debut in 2018 no?
Since then, India has never been comfortable against Shaheen’s new ball spell.
2021 Asia Cup, WC 2022, First Asia cup game, Indian batters looked circumspect and edgy including Gill whose misery was ended after 32 balls and batted like a tailender.

As for 7 boundaries or 9, it doesn’t matter. Shaheen goes for the wickets and I LOVE that. It’s okay to go for runs every now and then.
 
I will not rate him the best fast bowler in the world right now. Maybe start or Cummins ATM. SHaheen still has a long way to go.
 
Farabi said:
2 of those games are around Shaheen’s debut in 2018 no?
Since then, India has never been comfortable against Shaheen’s new ball spell.
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Wrong..

Just one game in the 2018 Asia Cup. Got clobbered...

Farabi said:
2021 Asia Cup, WC 2022, First Asia cup game, Indian batters looked circumspect and edgy including Gill whose misery was ended after 32 balls and batted like a tailender.
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Wrong again..there was no Asia Cup in 2021. And he didn't feature in the 2022 Asia Cup. He was the worst fast bowler on display in the T20 WC 2022 game...out of both teams.

Bottom line is, he has won only a solitary game for Pakistan against us. Lost 3 and probably would have lost the other if not for rain in Kandy.
 
ExpressPacer said:
His real abilities were apparent in his shellshocked state vs Pakistan in game 1. I like him though so I hope he proves me wrong.
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"Real abilities". ..

Babar Azam and Imam ul Haq, who just happen to be Pakistan's two best ODI batters currently have almighty averages of 28 and 7 respectively against India. That too in a combined sample size of 10 innings...

I'd love to see your judgement on them:apology
 
Mesozoic said:
Wrong..

Just one game in the 2018 Asia Cup. Got clobbered...



Wrong again..there was no Asia Cup in 2021. And he didn't feature in the 2022 Asia Cup. He was the worst fast bowler on display in the T20 WC 2022 game...out of both teams.

Bottom line is, he has won only a solitary game for Pakistan against us. Lost 3 and probably would have lost the other if not for rain in Kandy.
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you’re going on 1 limb to prove a point that is simply not true. Apart from a risky and flashy innings by Gill in the last game, I dont remember a single game… ofc you have to desperately go back to a game in 2018 when Shaheen was a nobody debuting.
 
Mesozoic said:
"Real abilities". ..

Babar Azam and Imam ul Haq, who just happen to be Pakistan's two best ODI batters currently have almighty averages of 28 and 7 respectively against India. That too in a combined sample size of 10 innings...

I'd love to see your judgement on them:apology
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It says nothing. Combined averaged of Rohit and Kohli in their first 10 games vs Pakistan was under 30 and equally aweful.
 
10 games is too small a sample size. Over the next 5 years, you will see a lot of iconic knocks by Babar and Imam vs India. Bookmark this.
 
Farabi said:
you’re going on 1 limb to prove a point that is simply not true. Apart from a risky and flashy innings by Gill in the last game, I dont remember a single game… ofc you have to desperately go back to a game in 2018 when Shaheen was a nobody debuting.
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What part of my argument is not true? :uakmal

Isn't it true that Shaheen won just one single game against India out of the 5 he has played?

Isn't it true that he has failed in 3 out of those 5 games?

His bowling is one of the main reasons why Pakistan lost their last ODI and T20I against us. We had no business chasing 48 off 18 on that MCG wicket but Shaheen choked in the 18th over getting smacked by Kohli. And then he got hammered for 1/79 in 10 overs in the latest defeat. In both the games, he was the worst bowler on display out of both the teams.

Ab main kyaa hi bolu...
 
Farabi said:
It says nothing. Combined averaged of Rohit and Kohli in their first 10 games vs Pakistan was under 30 and equally aweful.
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Wrong again...


Kohli scored that iconic 183 in just his 4th ODI against Pakistan. Babar and Imam combined have 196 against India. :yk

And Rohit is famous for being a perennial failure for the first 6 years of his career. While Imam and Babar are considered "two of the best ODI batters" by many here. So not the right comparison to begin with..
 
Mesozoic said:
What part of my argument is not true? :uakmal

Isn't it true that Shaheen won just one single game against India out of the 5 he has played?

Isn't it true that he has failed in 3 out of those 5 games?

His bowling is one of the main reasons why Pakistan lost their last ODI and T20I against us. We had no business chasing 48 off 18 on that MCG wicket but Shaheen choked in the 18th over getting smacked by Kohli. And then he got hammered for 1/79 in 10 overs in the latest defeat. In both the games, he was the worst bowler on display out of both the teams.

Ab main kyaa hi bolu...
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In the T20 WC game,
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Mesozoic said:
Wrong again...


Kohli scored that iconic 183 in just his 4th ODI against Pakistan. Babar and Imam combined have 196 against India. :yk

And Rohit is famous for being a perennial failure for the first 6 years of his career. While Imam and Babar are considered "two of the best ODI batters" by many here. So not the right comparison to begin with..
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Hold on. For Babar, you combined ODIs and T20s no? What were Kohli stats in the first 7 games vs Pak?
 
Farabi said:
10 games is too small a sample size. Over the next 5 years, you will see a lot of iconic knocks by Babar and Imam vs India. Bookmark this.
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Exactly my point.

The poster I quoted is judging Gill's "real abilities" based on one game even though he came back and scored 58 in the very next.
 
Mesozoic said:
What part of my argument is not true? :uakmal

Isn't it true that Shaheen won just one single game against India out of the 5 he has played?

Isn't it true that he has failed in 3 out of those 5 games?

His bowling is one of the main reasons why Pakistan lost their last ODI and T20I against us. We had no business chasing 48 off 18 on that MCG wicket but Shaheen choked in the 18th over getting smacked by Kohli. And then he got hammered for 1/79 in 10 overs in the latest defeat. In both the games, he was the worst bowler on display out of both the teams.

Ab main kyaa hi bolu...
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I don’t consider that 22 WC game as peak Shaheen as he was returning from injury after 3-4 months.
The only game is the last one where Gill rode his luck as Shaheen tried to attack and get wickets. The game prior, Shaheen completely embarrassed Rohit and Kohli, and got both Pandya and Jadeja in second spell. Wasn’t it like 40/4 in 10 overs spell at Kandy. Potentially a match winning spell but match was abandoned due to rain.
 
Farabi said:
I don’t consider that 22 WC game as peak Shaheen as he was returning from injury after 3-4 months.
The only game is the last one where Gill rode his luck as Shaheen tried to attack and get wickets. The game prior, Shaheen completely embarrassed Rohit and Kohli, and got both Pandya and Jadeja in second spell. Wasn’t it like 40/4 in 10 overs spell at Kandy. Potentially a match winning spell but match was abandoned due to rain.
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One excuse after another lol. Let us conveniently ignore all the games where Shaheen was "coming back from injury" , "wasn't new to int'l cricket" , "opponent batters rode their luck" bla bla bla and only pick one game where you conceded 266 and were alll set to lose under lights. :facepalm:
 
Mesozoic said:
"Real abilities". ..

Babar Azam and Imam ul Haq, who just happen to be Pakistan's two best ODI batters currently have almighty averages of 28 and 7 respectively against India. That too in a combined sample size of 10 innings...

I'd love to see your judgement on them:apology
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Imam and particularly Babar have proven themselves against better attacks. Gill has smashed second string attacks into oblivion but failed against good bowling. I will reserve my judgement until I have seen him play in a couple of games at the World Cup.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Imam and particularly Babar have proven themselves against better attacks. Gill has smashed second string attacks into oblivion but failed against good bowling. I will reserve my judgement until I have seen him play in a couple of games at the World Cup.
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Irony dies a million deaths when Imam/Babar stans talk about second string attacks. The only reason behind their ODI stats and rankings is due to their constant bullying of third rated bowling attacks..

Khair... this thread is about Shaheen so let us not derail this. Let's just agree to disagree.
 
Yes currently he is one of the best fast bowler but this world cup will define his stardom and credibility
 
Best first two overs bowlers? Probably.

He’s completely toothless after the initial 3 overs.

Most teams dominate him afterwards if they don’t lose wickets.

Received one of the most humiliating thrashing in that World Cup (was it T20?) and now in Asia Cup, I think both times by IND?

He hasn’t really been doing well when it matters at the big stage, and is already very very ordinary in real cricket (Tests).
 
Shaheen is a damn good bowler, but there are other good bowlers as well.

Gill is a generational player like Sachin and Kohli. Those who doubt his abilities can turn blind eye all they want, his rise to fame in the next few years would force you to open your eyes and acknowledge that you are wrong.

Gill is 24 year old (and that is his real age, not the fudged up age our neighbors are famous for) and his time is just starting.
 
There are some places in India he will get swing assistance. But he goes for glory balls too soon and too often and becomes predictable. He is still Pakistan's trump card in the bowling department.
 
Shaheen Afridi delivers his best when the ball is swinging, he tends to struggle on flat pitches.
 
Iamcoolwhiz said:
Shaheen is a damn good bowler, but there are other good bowlers as well.

Gill is a generational player like Sachin and Kohli. Those who doubt his abilities can turn blind eye all they want, his rise to fame in the next few years would force you to open your eyes and acknowledge that you are wrong.

Gill is 24 year old (and that is his real age, not the fudged up age our neighbors are famous for) and his time is just starting.
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we will see what happens. shaheen will be steaming in soon.
 
Shaheen bowled decently today at econ of 4.16

In 6 overs conceded just 25 runs

But again, no wicket for him with new ball today
 
ICC has announced the latest rankings and as per those rankings, Shaheen Shah Afridi (632) has climbed higher among the leading ODI bowlers, up two spots to sixth while swapping places with Mitchell Starc (628) who dropped to eighth.
 
Devadwal said:
Shaheen role is to provided early breakthrough and he failed so far
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Failed in warm up matches lol, are you serious? If he fails in the real matches then you may have a point.
 
WengerOut said:
No.. Shaheen might be the best Pak bowler, but not certainly in the world... Infact i believe he is a tad overrated.
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He is over rated because he is still quite young and has lots of time to hit his peak. He is not fully niggle free too and is only recovering from his previous big injury. On these pitches many fast bowlers will struggle, but I hope Haris quickly get into his groove and bowl better than he has in the two warm ups
 
He should distance himself from Shahid Afridi and stop trying to become an allrounder. Pretty sure, Afridi has instilled it in Shaheen's mind that he could become the next Wasim Akram.

He's become absolutely toothless bowling wise ever since he played that whirlwind innings in the PSL. That innings will be to the detriment of Shaheen as well as Pakistan. His pace has considerably dropped and his swing doesn't create any fear factor anymore. He'll be taken to the cleaners by the big boys in this World Cup.
 
In this WC the recipe would be either SSA rips through a batting line up or we get smashed for 350.

Never would have thought I'd see a day where Pakistani batting would be much stronger than our bowling.
 
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Shaheen is alright. But his endurance and physical fitness will be tested. 11 matches. Weather is likely to be hot in a lot of places. Inspite of lack of alternatives if Pakistan uses him for longer spells like 5 over spells then he will soon find himself injured midway through the world cup.
 
Pakistan cricket team players called fast bowler Shaheen Shah Afridi Eagle.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has released a video on its official Instagram account, in which it can be seen that the national players were asked the question, how would you describe Shaheen Shah Afridi?

In response, the vice-captain of the national cricket team and all-rounder Shadab Khan said "Eagle". Fast bowler Haris Rauf said that Shaheen Shah Afridi is a fighter who never gives up.

Fast bowler Shaheen Afridi expressed his happiness on being declared Eagle by Shadab Khan.

Shaheen Shah Afridi said that when you call by the name of Eagle and call by the name of Afridi, it will give me more power.

Source: AAJ News
 
Savak said:
Gil and Rohit humiliated him and Shaheen was made to look like a school boy with no answers.

Hopefully he will now realize that when bowling to world class batsmen, just bowling that full blooded pitched up inswinger on the yorker length is not enough and that you need to have more tools up your sleeve at this level.

Shaheen also has to work on his second, third spell and old ball bowling skills. Playing so many T20s has diminished his ODI bowling skills and endurance.
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The full pitched inswinger is not the issue. The issue is that of late Shaheen hasn't controlled his lines well. From memory in recent games he has bowled too many leg stump freebies. You can't get away with such trash against people like Gill and Sharma
 
Shaheen is a good bowler. Not the best in the world, not even in Pakistan. Naseem us superior to him. Stark, Bumrah all superior. But he is defo a good bowler. That much deserves recognition
 
mominsaigol said:
Shaheen is a good bowler. Not the best in the world, not even in Pakistan. Naseem us superior to him. Stark, Bumrah all superior. But he is defo a good bowler. That much deserves recognition
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Shaheen's record against the top teams is nothing to write home about.
 
Savak said:
Shaheen's record against the top teams is nothing to write home about.
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Their isn't a need to be negative, he's bowled well against India and he's justified himself.

As I said he is a good bowler. But he's not even the best in Pakistan, Naseem is.

Saying he's no 1 in the world is going too far.
 
Razzaq speaking about Shaheen:

“Shaheen thinks that the old ball will offer the same assistance like the new ball, which is not the case. He needs to bring variations in his bowling with the old ball. He needs to bowl with patience because sometimes you won't get wickets and you will have to wait for the batter's mistake. If you are always looking for wickets, you will only be successful twice in a 100 attempts,"
 
His pace is decreasing significantly, it seems like he is not fit enough to bowl with full rythm.
 
Shaheen needs to develop a stock ball. The new ball inswinger is not a stock ball, it’s a weapon. Use it but not every ball in your opening spell.
 
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