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Jofra Archer strikes twice for England in their last encounter of CT 2025 against South Africa in Karachi.
 
Jofra Archer in ICC Champions Trophy 2025

1-10 overs: 14 overs, 6 wickets, 13.0 average, 5.3 economy, 14.0 SR

11-50 overs: 11 overs, 0 wickets, 8.6 economy
 

England coach Brendon McCullum reveals Jofra Archer is likely to make Test cricket return this summer after four-year absence​


Brendon McCullum is increasingly confident that Jofra Archer will return to Test cricket this summer.

Optimism has been hard to extract from England’s woeful Champions Trophy campaign, but the sight of Archer scything through the defences of both South African openers at its end was a reminder of his fast-bowling gifts ahead of two seismic series this year.

For England, his presence in the Ashes next winter is viewed as an essential component of plans to wrest back the urn after eight years in Australian hands. Before that there is the matter of a five-match campaign against India starting in June.

‘I'll sit down with some of the players after this and work out what their ambitions are. I would imagine Jof would be keen to play Test cricket this summer,’ England coach McCullum said.

Archer has not played a first-class match since May 2021 due to stress fractures in his elbow and lower back, but has had his physical robustness built back up slowly by the ECB’s medical team to the point where he sent down 29 overs, the most of any England bowler, during this tournament.

His combined figures of 36-1-230-7 in one-day internationals this calendar year - steady rather than spectacular - part of long-term scheduling mapped out at the start of the 2024 home summer.

Archer has been coy talking about his fitness issues, understandably so given the angst injuries have caused during his career, but he appears to be meeting the appearance targets presented to him on a PDF file just under 12 months ago.

‘Jofra's been out of competitive cricket for a couple of years, it's taken a little bit of time to get that rhythm of game play back but I think he's been really good,’ McCullum added.

‘He's bowled high-pace, he's played a lot of cricket, he's been able to get a significant workload under his belt throughout this tournament.

‘We know how great Jofra is at the very top of his game and to have him back, fit and excited about playing is a real win for English cricket.

‘If you can add him to the battery of fast bowlers you're trying to build then it only strengthens the squad.’

One complication in readying Archer for the rigours of a Test match is that he will be with Rajasthan Royals at the Indian Premier League from the end of this month to late May. The ECB initially blocked his participation in this year’s event, but relented on the eve of the auction.

However, it is likely that he will be given a programme of extra bowling in the nets, mirroring that of India’s fast-bowling Test hopefuls who are being provided with red Dukes balls to aid their own preparation.

It is understood that India’s board are also considering taking an unprecedented step of calling a short training camp for its Test squad during the IPL, such is the concern at recent away results against England. Since a 1-0 win in 2007, India have lost 13 Tests across four series.

 
Jofra Archer is playing for Rajasthan in IPL 2025 and today against SRH, he gave away 76 runs in his 4 overs...the most expensive spell in IPL history... Crazy

Maybe he should fake his injury and go back to England.
 
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Jofra Archer’s figures today vs Sunrisers Hyderabad

4-0-76-0

🤣🤣🤣
 
How bad do you have to bowl to concede the most runs ever conceded in a bowling spell in the IPL?

Even in the CT he did not feel like the same bowler. Maybe its the flat pitches but does anyone see him returning to his old form? He's 29 so he has time, but his history of injuries does not paint a favorable picture for the future.
 
We should really do a study on archer.

In all my years of cricket I have never seen a more hyped cricketer.

He bowled well in the 2019 World Cup but he was not extraordinary like say Starc has been in 15, or he didnt have a defining shock game like Stokes in the final or Brathwaite with that over to win the t20 World Cup.

He followed that up with an ashes series where he again bowled well but mainly got tailend wickets and bowled bouncers including hitting Steve smith on the head. That was it. He was rubbish abroad.

But all pundits and some 'knowledgeable' posters on here hailed him as the best bowler in the world. He was treated like a superstar and had a terrible attitude to match. He broke the covid requirements, lied and acted like a victim and diva. When he would bowl slow and get called out by former cricketers, he would moan and complain on twitter.... in the middle of a test match.

On top of that, Mr 'effortless action' has been injured for years now. He has achieved about the same as Hassan Ali yet his name still gets raised as if he's some world beater.
 
There is a chance that the injury he sustained may have ended him, but I won't write him off just yet.
 
He is a bit caught in same limbo like Shaheen.

The skillsets are there - easy pace, great action and physical attributes. Occasionally they blow down couple of batters with unplayable balls but problem is you don't see them stringing good spells together or using their thinking skills to get away from a batter who is intent on taking them down.

They will still be good in bowling friendly conditions in Aus/NZ/SA where they can still be predators but they seem unable to mentally handle that on flat white ball tracks they are just prey for every guy who can swing bat.

Yesterday Archer went for 80 in 4 ovs. On that wkt as leader of the attack if he had managed to get out at 2/50 in 4 ovs that would have kept SRH down to 250 which was probably a chaseable target
 
Jofra Archer ruled out of Metro Bank ODI series

England Men's and Sussex pace bowler Jofra Archer has been ruled out of the Metro Bank ODI series against the West Indies due to a right thumb injury.

He will be reassessed by the England medical team over the next fortnight to determine when he may return to action.

Lancashire’s Luke Wood has been added to England’s ODI squad for the three-match series, which begins on 29 May at Edgbaston.
 
Archer on the rigours of red-ball cricket ahead of a potential Test comeback:


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ECB has been wasting money on him for a long time.
 
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The England Men’s selection panel has added fast bowler Jofra Archer to the squad for the second Test match against India at Edgbaston, starting on Wednesday 2 July 2025.

Not sure why there is so much buzz for his inclusion. Is he that great???
 
Rob Key says Jofra Archer is ready to hit the ground running on his return to England's Test squad

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Jofra Archer's "effortless pace" in the nets has been a "wake-up call" for England captain Ben Stokes as the fast bowler works towards a Test return he has always wanted

Archer is back with the England camp after four years away from the Test game due to elbow and back injuries but will not play in the second match of the series against India, at Edgbaston live on Sky Sports from Wednesday (11am start), with the hosts unchanged.

The 30-year-old, who could make his long-awaited comeback in the third Test at Lord's from July 10, will stay with England this week rather than return to County Championship action with Sussex, something Stokes says is vital for his reintegration.

Source: Sky News
 
Jofra Archer named in England XI to face India at Lord's

We've made one change to our XI ahead of the third Test match of the series.

The England Men’s selection panel has made one change to our XI to take on India at Lord's.

The series is finely poised at 1-1 following India's 336-run victory at Edgbaston on Sunday.

Sussex fast bowler Jofra Archer replaces Josh Tongue for the third game of the five-Test series, starting on Thursday, July 10.

The 30-year-old right-arm quick returns to the England Test team for the first time since February 2021 and will make his 14th cap.
 
Hopefully it will make English attack better now that Archer is back.

Their pace attack was rubbish during the first 2 Tests.
 
Rishabh Pant talks about Archer's return

"Yes, it’s going to be a good contest always because he’s also coming back after a long break. Let’s see how it goes. Yes, I’m happy he’s back."
 
If he bowls like he used to in 2019 he will be very hard to play. Especially if it's a spicy pitch. But lately he has looked like a shadow of his former self. Getting injured again is probably the biggest concern. Not sure how many FC matches he has played in the lead up to this test, or if his body is even used to bowling long spells.

Still, the way the English bowling is looking right now they would probably welcome his inclusion.
 
I don't rate him high.. He is made of glass... That is why he is not the guy you would want to place your bets on.
 
If he bowls like he used to in 2019 he will be very hard to play. Especially if it's a spicy pitch. But lately he has looked like a shadow of his former self. Getting injured again is probably the biggest concern. Not sure how many FC matches he has played in the lead up to this test, or if his body is even used to bowling long spells.

Still, the way the English bowling is looking right now they would probably welcome his inclusion.
18 overs of FC bowling the last 4.5 years. That's how much he has bowled
 
2019 version of Archer over Bumrah any day.

2019

Matches:-
Archer: 7
Bumrah: 3

Wickets:-
Archer: 30
Bumrah: 21

Avg:-
Archer : 27.40
Bumrah: 13.14

Strike rate :-
Archer: 54.8
Bumrah: 30.9

5fers:-
Archer: 3
Bumrah: 2
 
I wonder if he regrets not playing for WIndies. Wouldn't have wasted a lot of time playing county to try and qualify for England.

He could have a similar career just staying in the Caribbean and probably played more T20 leagues.
 
I wonder if he regrets not playing for WIndies. Wouldn't have wasted a lot of time playing county to try and qualify for England.

He could have a similar career just staying in the Caribbean and probably played more T20 leagues.
He is an ODI World Cup winner which he would never have achieved with West Indies, so he definitely wouldn’t regret playing for England.
 
Yea and then we all wake up eventually to reality.

Bumrah over any version of Wasim bhai and Waqar
I know Indians are obsessed with Wasim Akram because of sheer jealousy, but any comparisons between Bumrah and Wasim Akram will not be entertained unless Bumrah wins India the real World Cup (ODI World Cup) and time is running out fast if it hasn’t already.

He had a golden chance in 2023 but he choked beautifully. Wasim’s 92 final performance is bigger than Bumrah’s entire career.

You can take the W over Waqar, I don’t care. I don’t rate him very highly anyway, he would have been nothing special in today’s era.
 
2019

Matches:-
Archer: 7
Bumrah: 3

Wickets:-
Archer: 30
Bumrah: 21

Avg:-
Archer : 27.40
Bumrah: 13.14

Strike rate :-
Archer: 54.8
Bumrah: 30.9

5fers:-
Archer: 3
Bumrah: 2
Stats also say that India lose more with Bumrah than they do without him, so his wickets must be useless.

I don’t care about these numbers, 2019 version of Archer was phenomenal. Not just in Test cricket but also in ODI cricket. He has helped England win the real World Cup (50 over) which Bumrah will probably never.
 
I know Indians are obsessed with Wasim Akram because of sheer jealousy, but any comparisons between Bumrah and Wasim Akram will not be entertained unless Bumrah wins India the real World Cup (ODI World Cup) and time is running out fast if it hasn’t already.

He had a golden chance in 2023 but he choked beautifully. Wasim’s 92 final performance is bigger than Bumrah’s entire career.

You can take the W over Waqar, I don’t care. I don’t rate him very highly anyway, he would have been nothing special in today’s era.
Fair enough. No one cares for odi anymore though. Test cricket and t20 is what matters now

If booms wins one more t20 WC then I would say he is ahead of wasim overall in loI

In tests for me bumrah in terms of ability is the goat Asian bowler but Wasim has longevity.

Booms needs 60 tests plus then yea. At the same bowling average of sub 23
 
Stats also say that India lose more with Bumrah than they do without him, so his wickets must be useless.

I don’t care about these numbers, 2019 version of Archer was phenomenal. Not just in Test cricket but also in ODI cricket. He has helped England win the real World Cup (50 over) which Bumrah will probably never.

Just putting it out there.
Bumrah was twice as good in 2019

I agree Archer had a great 2019 though.
 
2019 version of Archer over Bumrah any day.
2025 version of Archer over current Bumrah too.

Archer is back to his best. He is bowling with serious heat now, Australia should be wary of his threat.

He is one England bowler that can damage the Aussies in their den.
 
Just putting it out there.
Bumrah was twice as good in 2019

I agree Archer had a great 2019 though.
Bumrah has never been twice as good. Not in 2019, not today.

Archer showed Bumrah who is the boss. First Test in 4 years and produced a more impactful performance.
 
@Forum363

You deserve this humiliation. Enjoy your humble pie. Clutch performance by Archer under pressure.

That peach to Pant and that excellent caught & bowled off Washington won England the match.
 
@Forum363

You deserve this humiliation. Enjoy your humble pie. Clutch performance by Archer under pressure.

That peach to Pant and that excellent caught & bowled off Washington won England the match.

Why dont you tell me more about how he was out bowled by a 'finished' Ben Stokes with a groin injury.

Getting a few wickets and being overhyped is exactly what Archer is known for so it's good to see him continuing at his level. Lets see how long he lasts

His biggest achievements that get him the hype:
- Not defending the super over runs and getting saved by a stupid technicality after Stokes single handedly got them back into the contest with an ATG innings (Hyped like he won England the cup)
- Contest with Steve Smith where he hit him on the head a few times but couldnt get him out (Hyped like he was immediatly better than Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah, Starc et al)
- Bowling fast with an effortless action (90-92mph and gets injured so often he has barely played in 6 years).

Like I said, a Wahab Riaz type bowler. I hope he can sort out his career and get close to Neil Wagner in terms of his performances but I doubt it given his attitude.
 
Why dont you tell me more about how he was out bowled by a 'finished' Ben Stokes with a groin injury.

Getting a few wickets and being overhyped is exactly what Archer is known for so it's good to see him continuing at his level. Lets see how long he lasts

His biggest achievements that get him the hype:
- Not defending the super over runs and getting saved by a stupid technicality after Stokes single handedly got them back into the contest with an ATG innings (Hyped like he won England the cup)
- Contest with Steve Smith where he hit him on the head a few times but couldnt get him out (Hyped like he was immediatly better than Cummins, Rabada, Bumrah, Starc et al)
- Bowling fast with an effortless action (90-92mph and gets injured so often he has barely played in 6 years).

Like I said, a Wahab Riaz type bowler. I hope he can sort out his career and get close to Neil Wagner in terms of his performances but I doubt it given his attitude.
As expected, you sound incredibly hurt. It was definitely painful for you to watch him deliver for England when you thought he shouldn't even be in the team, but you deserve it and you must lick your wounds.
 
As expected, you sound incredibly hurt. It was definitely painful for you to watch him deliver for England when you thought he shouldn't even be in the team, but you deserve it and you must lick your wounds.
As you think stokes was finished 4 years ago lol.

Check who the man of the match was.
 
Bumrah has never been twice as good. Not in 2019, not today.

Archer showed Bumrah who is the boss. First Test in 4 years and produced a more impactful performance.

You’re excited about England’s win. Congratulations.
But Bumrah was twice the bowler only in 2019.

In overall terms, Bumrah is many levels ahead of Archer. Archer hasn’t been the best English bowler of the generation let alone a contender for the GOAT tag which Bumrah is contending for currently.
 
If Archer could get a method of getting right handers out like left handers, he would join the elite bowlers in World cricket. At the moment he is too reliant on the bouncer and needs to develop something against right handers. Still thrilling to watch
 
Archer opens up on his return to Test cricket.

"I'm grateful for everybody for just sticking with me."

"It has been a long journey and I can't tell you about the amount of keyboard warriors there have been over the past three years or so,"

"It was pretty hectic, for the first game back,"

"I probably bowled a few more overs than I thought I would've, but every single one mattered so I'm not too fussed about it."

"It was a long time coming - a lot of rehab, a lot of training," Archer added. "But it's moments like this that make it all worth it. The whole crowd gave me a huge lift,"

"The hardest part has been playing cricket for the last year and a half and still having the training wheels on. Sometimes you think you're ready, but you never know until you do it. The safer way is the best way, so I'm not too fussed. This is surely worth the wait."
 
There’s clearly a couple of things for him to address, first against RHBs where he bowls too full, and also a bit of general discipline. But as far as Test comebacks go this one was pretty magnificent. Archer took 3 massive wickets in the second innings and on the final morning he made his team believe that they could win. It’s not just his quality that has enhanced the bowling attack, it’s the backstory and “spark” Jofra brought along with him that has helped England to go 2-1 up.
 
There’s clearly a couple of things for him to address, first against RHBs where he bowls too full, and also a bit of general discipline. But as far as Test comebacks go this one was pretty magnificent. Archer took 3 massive wickets in the second innings and on the final morning he made his team believe that they could win. It’s not just his quality that has enhanced the bowling attack, it’s the backstory and “spark” Jofra brought along with him that has helped England to go 2-1 up.
There is a serious problem with his bowling to right handers- he is plain average with his bread and butter balls. When he bowis full to them it's just floaty. In contrast, his seam and pace are perfectly suited to bowl to left handers. I don't think he can improve at this stage of his career.
 
There is a serious problem with his bowling to right handers- he is plain average with his bread and butter balls. When he bowis full to them it's just floaty. In contrast, his seam and pace are perfectly suited to bowl to left handers. I don't think he can improve at this stage of his career.

if England can get another 10-15 Tests out of him, perhaps even just keeping him bubble-wrapped for the big series where he will be most needed, all parties will have done pretty well.

India has a relatively high number LHBs in the top 8, Jaiswal Pant Jadeja Washington, and possibly Sai to replace Nair as well. Archer if he’s able and it doesn’t break him for the Ashes should be playing both of the remaining Tests, at least one!
 
He took advantage of the lords slope to full advantage at very high pace. He looked a little lack luster with older ball though. Gas was there. With zero movement he looked too easy to negotiate.
 
Jofra being successful against left handers is huge for England's Ashes chances. Australia has lefties like khawaja, head, carey.
Head and Carey in particular are Australia's main batters after smith. Both of them make crucial match winning 50s-80s and the occasional centuries with the bat.
 
Jofra being successful against left handers is huge for England's Ashes chances. Australia has lefties like khawaja, head, carey.
Head and Carey in particular are Australia's main batters after smith. Both of them make crucial match winning 50s-80s and the occasional centuries with the bat.
He had prodigious seam movement which was how he dismissed Pant. It moved a fraction enough to beat his outside edge. Guys like Khawaja who is known for edging it will be an easy prey. Having said that once the movement disappears he looked easier to negotiate. He doesn't have whole bag of tricks like Stokes. He bowls bouncer, yorker once the movement is gone.
 
Having said that once the movement disappears he looked easier to negotiate. He doesn't have whole bag of tricks like Stokes. He bowls bouncer, yorker once the movement is gone.
That’s ok if in Tests he seems to be predominantly a new ball bowler. (England are still figuring out how to use him really.)

If Jofra can bowl 3x4 or 2x6 over spells in the first 30 overs (second innings at Lord’s), then apart from maybe one further spell of bouncer/yorker he likely won’t be seen much again until the second new ball.

Picking up the workhorse middle overs are one thing that for England bowlers aren’t normally a problem. Carse, Stokes, and if they can find a spinner to hold up an end (Dawson?) can do that fairly competently.

If anything it’s a more explosive newer ball specialist like Archer who can bowl with pace, get the fielders up and take early wickets that we have been lacking.
 
"I can play the other two if they let me. I don't want to lose this series. I told Keysy (ECB managing director Rob Key) that I wanted to play the Test summer and I wanted to play the Ashes."

Jofra Archer via Sky Sports
 
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