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Rajdeep said:
TBH you won't find a more welcoming country like Britain or Europe for that matter. I have lived here for last decade and a half and can vouch for that. However, if for example you go to a street in Delhi or Karachi and you only see foreigners there, places which are almost a no go zone for native people we won't be very pleased. And if those foreigners have history of extremism and only want to implement their culture without trying to assimilate, people will speak up. This is exactly what is happening in Britain which people are gas lighting it as Far Right extremists.
#FACTS
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Typing something in capitals doesn't make it true

And there is no gaslighting taking place, the recent troubles we have seen has been due to far right extremists. I'm not going to just type facts in capital letters, I'll prove it by highlighting the following

- Attacking Mosques (which the non far right extremists kindle helped fix/clean up)
- Attacking people of colour minding their own business (Indian guy punched in Hartlepool, black guy attacked in Manchester, cars with non-white people attacked)
- Derogatory and racist chanting
- Sri Lankan shopkeepers having their shops destroyed

Is the above behaviour/actions not the very definition of far right extremism?

Have to say those brown folks that kiss the backside of the white far right are a very strange bunch, how feeble and weak minded must you be to behave in a subservient matter towards someone that wouldn't think twice about beating you up
 
cricketjoshila said:
The white majority of UK built the British Empire.

They built the country where Pakistanis Bdeshis Indians Africans Arabs all flocked to.

If any of these immigrants becomes a threat to them, well politicians will be able to control it only for a short time.

UK isn't an empire anymore. Its resources are not the same. It can only support so many.
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Lol what a ignorant post.

Of course the white majority built the British Empire. The countries they occupied resulted in Britain becoming the economic super power it is today.
 
Rajdeep said:
Is that a genuine question?
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I'll retype it for you so you can have another go at answering which I'm assuming you can't at this point:


How is any of that #FACT?

Which foreigners are guilty of extremism and want to implement their own culture without trying to assimilate? Can you give some examples to support these #FACTS?
 

Southport unrest: Police 'feared they would not make it home'​

Police officers injured during episodes of violent disorder in Merseyside "feared they would not make it home" to their families, the chief constable has said.

More than 80 officers were injured as violence erupted in Southport, Liverpool city centre and Walton in the past six days.
The killing of three children at a holiday club on 29 July in Southport triggered waves of unrest across the country, partly fuelled by far-right activists and online misinformation.

Serena Kennedy, chief constable of Merseyside Police, said some officers involved in responding both to the knife attack and the subsequent disorder were "completely traumatised".

Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine, died during the attack at a studio in Southport's Hart Street, which left ten others injured.

Large groups clashed with police in the town the following day, with bricks and other missiles thrown and damage caused to a mosque.

More scenes of disturbance followed in Liverpool city centre and in Walton on Saturday, where Spellow Lane library was burned out and looted.

Ms Kennedy, along with Liverpool Council leader Liam Robinson, spoke to BBC Radio Merseyside during a walkabout in Liverpool, saying they were aiming to reassure visitors and business owners.

Ms Kennedy said the force had "more than enough officers" on duty to keep people safe in the coming days and allow them to "go about their normal business".

But the police response so far had taken its toll, she confirmed.

Source: BBC
 
aboveandbeyond said:
off course. Nothing compared to the damage Right wing extremists have caused up and down the country?
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Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.

As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.

But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?

People are angry on this two tier policing system.

No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
 
I think therfore I am said:
Lol what a ignorant post.

Of course the white majority built the British Empire. The countries they occupied resulted in Britain becoming the economic super power it is today.
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Those countries lost in wars. They didn't give resources out of kindness. Why did they lose?
 
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@Rajdeep

That is an edited version of what happened, the march was going past the pub when one of the patrons started abusing them and it kicked off an altercation.

Still inexcusable, these British Pakistani guys should not be acting in a similar manner to the thugs who have been wrecking Britain for the past week.
 
Rajdeep said:
Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.

As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.

But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?

People are angry on this two tier policing system.

No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
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What makes you think there was any police present there?
 
Rajdeep said:
Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.

As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.

But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?

People are angry on this two tier policing system.

No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
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You ve been quiet all week on the extreme thuggish behaviour of the far right, and ONE isolated case of young Asians retaliating to racial discrimination and you've come to a conclusion of a Two tier policing.

Just get this in your head. The same Far right called SUNAK A USSELESS PXXX
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Still inexcusable, these British Pakistani guys should not be acting in a similar manner to the thugs who have been wrecking Britain for the past week.
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The right wing is baiting them for a confrontation to further the hate agenda, shouldn't be stupid to fall for that trap. It's clear in that video the lad who took the first swing understood his mistake and was pushing away other cowards kicking the drunkard on the floor.
 
shortbread said:
The right wing is baiting them for a confrontation to further the hate agenda, shouldn't be stupid to fall for that trap. It's clear in that video the lad who took the first swing understood his mistake and was pushing away other cowards kicking the drunkard on the floor.
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Agreed. The worst thing ethnic minorities could do is get lured into confrontation with the white power movement. Even the mainstream media has been reluctant to blame home grown fascists, any sign of retaliation will be pounced on to shift the blame.
 
Rajdeep said:
Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.

As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.

But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?

People are angry on this two tier policing system.

No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
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The fact you are using the words "two tier policing" speaks volumes about you and the way you lean]

It's a tagline parroted by idiots with very little thought to what they are actually claiming

What exactly is two tier policing?
 
Following the pub incident in Birmingham, elders from the local Muslim community have offered apologies to the owner and victim in person, even offered compensation for the damages caused. Quickly and smartly intervened, resolved, case closed.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
The fact you are using the words "two tier policing" speaks volumes about you and the way you lean]

It's a tagline parroted by idiots with very little thought to what they are actually claiming

What exactly is two tier policing?
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Show me the police on that video I posted. Thank you
 
shortbread said:
Following the pub incident in Birmingham, elders from the local Muslim community have offered apologies to the owner and victim in person, even offered compensation for the damages caused. Quickly and smartly intervened, resolved, case closed.
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What ? They should be jailed bro and then case closed.
Surely England has better laws than South Asia
 
cricketjoshila said:
Those countries lost in wars. They didn't give resources out of kindness. Why did they lose?
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According to your logic if one country is stronger then the other they should take over commit mass murder and take their resources.

You do know how the East India company took over India???????
 
cricketjoshila said:
Those countries lost in wars. They didn't give resources out of kindness. Why did they lose?
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I hope you are aware your country was also one of the countries who lost in wars to British Empire. Why did they lose?

Your logic is absurd.
 
shortbread said:
Following the pub incident in Birmingham, elders from the local Muslim community have offered apologies to the owner and victim in person, even offered compensation for the damages caused. Quickly and smartly intervened, resolved, case closed.
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This is real leadership. It was disgusting behaviour from the guys. We are Muslims, unlike the fascist thugs
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Anything's possible in the current political climate and he could become the next PM.

I presume you would vote for him, just a thing to remember. A member of the same party labelled Rishi sunak a useless Pxxx
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He cant become the next PM, zero chance of it happening. He's a lazy grifter who has always proposed simplistic solutions to complex problems. Being in charge means you actually have to provide solutions which is not Farage's forte

Also Labour and Lib Dem have become good at tactical votes to minimise cutting each other's vote share. But Reform and Tory voters have no experience of tactical voting. Reform voters are mostly protest voters who were really mad at the Tory Party. But Tories have an established constituency of older upper middle class white voters voters who will never cross over to reform.

The only way Farage becomes PM is to merge his party with the Tories, basically a hostile takeover. The chances of that happening at least in the next few years are zero.
 
Rajdeep said:
Amazing speech by next PM for Britain

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I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.

And how quickly some Indians have forgotton how these White people looted India. And now these jokers are complaining about immigrants. Just deal with it, no other way. There will come more In sha Allah.
 
oatmeal said:
He cant become the next PM, zero chance of it happening. He's a lazy grifter who has always proposed simplistic solutions to complex problems. Being in charge means you actually have to provide solutions which is not Farage's forte

Also Labour and Lib Dem have become good at tactical votes to minimise cutting each other's vote share. But Reform and Tory voters have no experience of tactical voting. Reform voters are mostly protest voters who were really mad at the Tory Party. But Tories have an established constituency of older upper middle class white voters voters who will never cross over to reform.

The only way Farage becomes PM is to merge his party with the Tories, basically a hostile takeover. The chances of that happening at least in the next few years are zero.
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It was just a hypothetical reply to a guy whose fixated to anything or anyone against muslims
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Anything's possible in the current political climate and he could become the next PM.

I presume you would vote for him, just a thing to remember. A member of the same party labelled Rishi sunak a useless Pxxx
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LOL why are you keep repeating the same thing? As a Pakistani, you should be offended by it rather that anyone they don't like generalize him with that term. I hate that term myself as I don't think it should be used just like N word should be used against blacks.
 
All children still under care of Alder Hey Children's Hospital after Southport attack 'safely discharged'

All the children under the care of Alder Hey following last Monday's Southport attack have now been "safely discharged home", the children's hospital has said.

Three children - six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar - died as a result of the attack at The Hart Space community centre on Monday 29 July.

Five other children were left in a critical condition after the attack, while three were described as injured - with their exact conditions unknown.

They were treated in hospitals across Liverpool and Manchester, while two adults who were trying to protect them were also injured.

On Tuesday, Alder Hey Children's Hospital, in Liverpool, said they were "really pleased" to say those "who were under our care have now been safely discharged home from Alder Hey".

"We would like to take this opportunity to thank all those involved in responding to the incident or caring for anyone affected by it, especially our colleagues in the NHS, Merseyside Police and North West Ambulance Service," they added.

"We also want to say thank you to all who sent well-wishes to Alder Hey and to the families affected.

"Our heartfelt sympathies remain with all those impacted by last week's tragic events."


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All children still under care of Alder Hey Children's Hospital after Southport attack 'safely discharged'

Alder Hey has confirmed all the children who had been treated after the stabbings in Southport have now been discharged. It comes after hundreds gathered in the town in memory of the victims one week on.
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Rajdeep said:
LOL why are you keep repeating the same thing? As a Pakistani, you should be offended by it rather that anyone they don't like generalize him with that term. I hate that term myself as I don't think it should be used just like N word should be used against blacks.
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I sure am offended by it. Yet your willing to vote for a guy whose party member termed one of your own with the same slur. And here's you championing him to become the next Pm
 
IAJ said:
I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.

And how quickly some Indians have forgotton how these White people looted India. And now these jokers are complaining about immigrants. Just deal with it, no other way. There will come more In sha Allah.
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None of the people alive in UK today ever looted India. It was British empire that did it.

Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants. Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world who have very little skills to contribute to the economy. They will all be burden on British publics precious tax dollars.

Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?

If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything.
 
Champ_Pal said:
None of the people alive in UK today ever looted India. It was British empire that did it.

Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants. Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world who have very little skills to contribute to the economy. They will all be burden on British publics precious tax dollars.

Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?

If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything.
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You are absolutely waffling and just making loads of absurd points

1) "Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants."

Of course they aren't, however what isn't told is that Britain has an ageing population, what ageing populations need are immigrants, that's a reality, Britain is an immigrant country no matter how far back you go

2) "Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world"

Net migration increased under the right wing Tory government so how exactly is this the fault of the leftist?

3) "who have very little skills to contribute to the economy"

It's not only highly skilled people that contribute to the economy, even low skilled people can bring a positive impact. Immigrants actually provide a net benefit to the UK economy

4) "Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?"

Turkey is a terrible example considering they have received the largest number of refugees of any country between 2014 to 2019. As for Indians that move around the world, they are a very subservient bunch, probably more nationalistic than religious, so they don't care for their religion that much or at least are willing to sacrifice it so they can try and fit in (ties in with that bootlicker mentality unfortunately a lot of them have)

5) "If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything."

Can't recall if it was you are someone else but what exactly is their culture and identity? And why can't that culture/identity change? It's already changed over the years. On the subject of "illegals", any idea why the number has increased?
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
You are absolutely waffling and just making loads of absurd points

1) "Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants."

Of course they aren't, however what isn't told is that Britain has an ageing population, what ageing populations need are immigrants, that's a reality, Britain is an immigrant country no matter how far back you go

2) "Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world"

Net migration increased under the right wing Tory government so how exactly is this the fault of the leftist?

3) "who have very little skills to contribute to the economy"

It's not only highly skilled people that contribute to the economy, even low skilled people can bring a positive impact. Immigrants actually provide a net benefit to the UK economy

4) "Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?"

Turkey is a terrible example considering they have received the largest number of refugees of any country between 2014 to 2019. As for Indians that move around the world, they are a very subservient bunch, probably more nationalistic than religious, so they don't care for their religion that much or at least are willing to sacrifice it so they can try and fit in (ties in with that bootlicker mentality unfortunately a lot of them have)

5) "If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything."

Can't recall if it was you are someone else but what exactly is their culture and identity? And why can't that culture/identity change? It's already changed over the years. On the subject of "illegals", any idea why the number has increased?
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Look at what these riots have resulted in. Indian nurses that NHS depends on going back.

www.bbc.co.uk

'Scared' nurse will leave Northern Ireland - BBC News

The Belfast Health Trust says it is aware of 10 nurses from overseas who are leaving Northern Ireland.
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I think therfore I am said:
Look at what these riots have resulted in. Indian nurses that NHS depends on going back.

www.bbc.co.uk

'Scared' nurse will leave Northern Ireland - BBC News

The Belfast Health Trust says it is aware of 10 nurses from overseas who are leaving Northern Ireland.
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They are clowns

Some basic research would show how reliant the care system is on immigrants, they do the job the natives aren't willing to do

They talk about immigrants stealing their job but there is a work ethic issue amongst those that will complain and riot
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
The fact you are using the words "two tier policing" speaks volumes about you and the way you lean]

It's a tagline parroted by idiots with very little thought to what they are actually claiming

What exactly is two tier policing?
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@Geordie Ahmed doing a tremendous job in this thread in exposing intellectually impoverished arguments. On two-tier policing, the Economist pulled no punches:

"Many of the wild claims that fire up anti-immigrant protesters are simply untrue. One belief is that senior officers practise “two-tier policing” in which white people are treated less fairly than ethnic minorities. But that is nonsense. In the year ending in March 2023, the police carried out 24.5 stop-and-searches for every 1,000 black people and 5.9 for every 1,000 white people. The story that participants in a separate riot in Leeds in July escaped justice because they were Roma is also wrong; so far there have been at least 27 arrests. Perhaps some people are genuinely gulled by these falsehoods, perhaps they spread them knowing well that they are false. Either way, the truth often seems to count for less than lies that confirm people’s prejudices." (emphasis added)
 
KB said:
@Geordie Ahmed doing a tremendous job in this thread in exposing intellectually impoverished arguments. On two-tier policing, the Economist pulled no punches:

"Many of the wild claims that fire up anti-immigrant protesters are simply untrue. One belief is that senior officers practise “two-tier policing” in which white people are treated less fairly than ethnic minorities. But that is nonsense. In the year ending in March 2023, the police carried out 24.5 stop-and-searches for every 1,000 black people and 5.9 for every 1,000 white people. The story that participants in a separate riot in Leeds in July escaped justice because they were Roma is also wrong; so far there have been at least 27 arrests. Perhaps some people are genuinely gulled by these falsehoods, perhaps they spread them knowing well that they are false. Either way, the truth often seems to count for less than lies that confirm people’s prejudices." (emphasis added)
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That's what I was hoping to build up to that poster that mentioned two tier policing

I had a discussion with someone at work that mentioned two tier policing, when I challenged him on what it actually means he claimed it means that white people get treated unfairly whilst those from a bame background get let off

So I set him up by diverting the topic slightly and he claimed he only dislikes immigration because of the problems it causes to public services and the increased crime. So I asked him how can he support such an assertion, he responded that those from a non-white background make up around 30% of the prison population, which is higher than the UK population

His face was a picture when I asked him how those figures he has just mentioned support his claim about two tier policing?

Just proves people will parrot certain lines without engaging their brain
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
You are absolutely waffling and just making loads of absurd points

1) "Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants."

Of course they aren't, however what isn't told is that Britain has an ageing population, what ageing populations need are immigrants, that's a reality, Britain is an immigrant country no matter how far back you go

2) "Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world"

Net migration increased under the right wing Tory government so how exactly is this the fault of the leftist?

3) "who have very little skills to contribute to the economy"

It's not only highly skilled people that contribute to the economy, even low skilled people can bring a positive impact. Immigrants actually provide a net benefit to the UK economy

4) "Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?"

Turkey is a terrible example considering they have received the largest number of refugees of any country between 2014 to 2019. As for Indians that move around the world, they are a very subservient bunch, probably more nationalistic than religious, so they don't care for their religion that much or at least are willing to sacrifice it so they can try and fit in (ties in with that bootlicker mentality unfortunately a lot of them have)

5) "If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything."

Can't recall if it was you are someone else but what exactly is their culture and identity? And why can't that culture/identity change? It's already changed over the years. On the subject of "illegals", any idea why the number has increased?
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1) Having Ageing population does not mean you let anyone and everyone into the country who show up at your border in a dingy. There is a reason every country has an immigration system in place. You take the best and brightest and the ones who can contribute to the economy right away without being burden on the Government.

2) Even the right wing in GB is leftwing. That is the issue. Hence people are turning to far right.

3) Again, you cannot contribute if you cannot speak English. Britain reserves the absolute rules and can let in who they want to.

4) Turkey received the refugees from Syria which is a Muslim nation. Turkey will not let millions to flood their land if those Syrians were Christians or Hindus or Buddhists. Its easy to let in people when they are closer to your kind. Indians are grateful and will not protest in the west or do vandalism. It is a good quality to have.
I am talking about letting illegals in who have nothing in common with the natives and then give them citizenship and voting rights eventually. This has serious impact on the overall system. No Islamic country gives citizenship to non-muslims like this. Indians in Middle East have been working there for decades. None of them have citizenships and get to vote there. Arabs are not woke stupid like Western nations. This is why natives are rising up.

5) UK identity is White, Christian and English speaking putting their country and culture first. I don't have to explain this thing again and again. Funny you guys want to keep the culture in your native lands, but want to change everything in the west.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
They are clowns

Some basic research would show how reliant the care system is on immigrants, they do the job the natives aren't willing to do

They talk about immigrants stealing their job but there is a work ethic issue amongst those that will complain and riot
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This is why there is immigration system. Britain will take people that are ready to work and have necessary skills. You don't take anyone that shows up at your border with a Katori. :facepalm:

Before calling people clowns, understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration. You are quick to pull the trigger on anyone that does not go with the illegal immigration narrative.
 
Champ_Pal said:
This is why there is immigration system. Britain will take people that are ready to work and have necessary skills. You don't take anyone that shows up at your border with a Katori. :facepalm:

Before calling people clowns, understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration. You are quick to pull the trigger on anyone that does not go with the illegal immigration narrative.
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The irony of you asking others to understand the difference when you use the terms interchangeably and conflate the two

It's either intentionally dishonest or you don't have a clue, I'll let you decide which it is
 
Champ_Pal said:
1) Having Ageing population does not mean you let anyone and everyone into the country who show up at your border in a dingy. There is a reason every country has an immigration system in place. You take the best and brightest and the ones who can contribute to the economy right away without being burden on the Government.
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Again, you are showing your ignorance. I was explaining why having an ageing population means immigrants are necessary. You are now going on about dingy's. Those that come on boats are usually claiming asylum and are refugees.

As I said you are either conflating the two on purpose or you don't have a clue

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2) Even the right wing in GB is leftwing. That is the issue. Hence people are turning to far right.
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That's absolutely nonsense, the Tory government we had is the most right wing we've had in ages. Labour who are historically left leaning are even centre right now, so no idea where you've got this idea that the right wing in GB is left wing.

What's your background? Are you British?

Champ_Pal said:
3) Again, you cannot contribute if you cannot speak English. Britain reserves the absolute rules and can let in who they want to.
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Firstly I never mentioned speaking the language and secondly that's just not true. My grandad couldn't speak English and he worked harder than any person I've ever known. He contributed far more to this country than a lot of these native white racists you seem to bootlick

Champ_Pal said:
4) Turkey received the refugees from Syria which is a Muslim nation. Turkey will not let millions to flood their land if those Syrians were Christians or Hindus or Buddhists. Its easy to let in people when they are closer to your kind. Indians are grateful and will not protest in the west or do vandalism. It is a good quality to have.
I am talking about letting illegals in who have nothing in common with the natives and then give them citizenship and voting rights eventually. This has serious impact on the overall system. No Islamic country gives citizenship to non-muslims like this. Indians in Middle East have been working there for decades. None of them have citizenships and get to vote there. Arabs are not woke stupid like Western nations. This is why natives are rising up.
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That's an easy and lazy statement to make because not all Muslim countries are so generous. It's ultimately an irrelevant point. Since millions aren't flooding into the UK anyway.

You mention letting illegals in, the term illegal immigrants is a bit of an oxymoron anyway. Those that are undocumented are not being given citizenship, where on earth are you getting this information from?

Which middle east country which has a high immigrant population has voting that takes place?

The natives that you refer to are a minority (reform who are the party who push the rhetoric on immigrants the most only got 14% of the vote), they are as ignorant as you on this subject and they parrot the nonsense they hear without fact checking.

The majority of the natives are decent people, they are the ones that have come out to help repair mosques damaged by the neanderthals and repair town centres damaged by the people you seem to bizarrely hero worship.

Champ_Pal said:
5) UK identity is White, Christian and English speaking putting their country and culture first. I don't have to explain this thing again and again. Funny you guys want to keep the culture in your native lands, but want to change everything in the west.
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You clearly don't have a clue, the Christian element has been dying for a long, long time. You'd know that if you were British, the average White person is more agnostic. So this notion it's a Christian country is nonsensical.

The majority of the country is still White and English is the primary language, so that identity isn't dying.

The reason you keep getting asked to explain it again and again is because your explanations don't make any sense. So British identity according to you is White, Christian and English speaking. What is British culture then?

Honestly, you are out of your depth in this conversation. You aren't British or if you are then you clearly live under some rock (or maybe under one of the native boots), your stance on this subject is based on a dislike of either Muslims or Pakistanis, not interacted with you long enough to know which it is.
 
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The UAE has advised its citizens to "exercise the highest level of caution" while in the UK.

In a post on X, the country's embassy in London said citizens should take necessary precautions and avoid visiting areas where riots have been taking place.

"UAE citizens must adhere to the warnings issued by the UAE Embassy in London and comply with all safety instructions," it said.



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I cannot go on and on about this.

Your granddad does not represent all asylum seekers who cannot speak English.

Illegal immigration is what I am against. It does not matter if they are war refugees or economic refugees. These people will not go back even if the condition back in their home country improves. You cannot let anyone and everyone that shows up at your doorstep. Illegal immigration is mafia driven. No sane person encourages it.

I am totally for controlled legal immigration. I am not going to go again and again on what native culture is. I have explained what it is several times.

Keep telling that anyone who does not jive with your views is out of depth in the conversation. If that makes you sleep better.
 
Champ_Pal said:
You don't need to know politics to criticize illegal immigration.

Looks I touched a sensitive nerve here. :ROFLMAO:
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lol if you dont know UK politics, then that's fine. Not everyone knows about every country's political system.

But dont pretend to be an expert and make ridiculous statements like "UK's right wing is left wing" :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Basically dont give away how little you know about the subject so easily, just parrot the talking points you have heard somewhere else and move on
 
oatmeal said:
lol if you dont know UK politics, then that's fine. Not everyone knows about every country's political system.

But dont pretend to be an expert and make ridiculous statements like "UK's right wing is left wing" :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Basically dont give away how little you know about the subject so easily, just parrot the talking points you have heard somewhere else and move on
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UK politics or US politics. The issue is illegal immigration. Its the same and I am totally against it.

Funny to see people getting super defensive about illegal immigration. This is why UK is burning.
 
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Champ_Pal said:
UK politics or US politics. The issue is illegal immigration. Its the same and I am totally against it.

Funny to see all People getting super defensive about illegal immigration. This is why UK is burning.
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I didnt even reply to the illegal immigration part, just the UK right wing politics part of your post. British Tabloids are the most right wing in the world, even rabidly so. The politics over the last 15 years has seen every flavour of conservative politics in government - from budgetary financial hawks to immigration hawks to staunch europskeptics to one nation tories to populists to libertarians. And I'm not even counting the interior secretaries and chancellors who had their own policies differing from the PM sometimes. And I am an Indian, not a Pakistani
 
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Champ_Pal said:
I cannot go on and on about this.
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Then admit you don't know what you are talking about, ask questions rather than pretending to know what you are talking about
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Your granddad does not represent all asylum seekers who cannot speak English.
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My word, it's like conversing with a child. You stated not speaking the language means you can't contribute, it's simply not true. Not speaking the language no doubt makes it difficult to fully integrate into society but that's a separate issue.
Champ_Pal said:
Illegal immigration is what I am against. It does not matter if they are war refugees or economic refugees. These people will not go back even if the condition back in their home country improves. You cannot let anyone and everyone that shows up at your doorstep. Illegal immigration is mafia driven. No sane person encourages it.
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If you are against illegal immigration then stick to talking about that, instead you are going on about every type of migrants as well as refugees. The reality is you are absolutely parroting the right wing views of this country and the smart ones among them intentionally conflate them all whilst the illiterate ones don't have a clue.
Champ_Pal said:
I am totally for controlled legal immigration. I am not going to go again and again on what native culture is. I have explained what it is several times.
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Whilst you might be for "controlled legal immigration", to expand further you are for limiting brown people immigration. And more specifically Muslim/Pakistani. That's the reason you keep going on about culture (which you have not been able to explain) and White identity.

I've explained to you this country has an ageing population so migrants are needed and they are likely to come from non-White places so the makeup of this countries identity will change and it's necessary.

Champ_Pal said:
Keep telling that anyone who does not jive with your views is out of depth in the conversation. If that makes you sleep better.
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Got nothing to do with jive, I'm not telling anyone they are out of their depth, I'm specifically telling you because you are all over the shop when it comes to this discussion.

If you simply stated immigration should be controlled I don't think anyone would be challenging that narrative, it's when you talk about the country needing to stay White and then you conflate immigrants with refugees etc that you get challenged. Moreso considering you are sat thousands of miles away.
 
^ Admit to what? That illegal immigration is great for UK?

No womder UK is burning. Even Ireland is seeing anti immigration protests.

Globalists and socialists will meet their end soon.
 
Starmer says rioters can expect rapid sentencing

The prime minister has said those caught being involved in riots across England and Northern Ireland can expect to be rapidly processed through the courts.

After chairing his second emergency co-ordination meeting with police chiefs in as many days, Sir Keir Starmer emerged to say he was now expecting “substantive sentencing” of rioters within days.

James Nelson, 18, of Bolton, is thought to be the first person to be jailed for their part in the disorder. He was convicted of causing criminal damage in the town and given a two-month prison sentence.

It is understood there are at least 30 potential gatherings planned for Wednesday that police are aware of but they believe the situation is "manageable".

In Northern Ireland on Tuesday evening, a young boy was left with minor facial injuries after an attack in west Belfast which police are treating as a hate crime.

More than 400 arrests have been made so far after days of disorder in various UK towns and cities following the killing of three girls in Southport - fuelled by misinformation spread online that the suspect was an asylum seeker.

Inquests are to be opened later at Bootle Town Hall, Merseyside, into the deaths of Bebe King, six, Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven.

Around 100 people have already been charged in connection with the recent disturbances in parts of England and Northern Ireland.

On Tuesday night, charges continued to be brought by police forces with defendants expected in court on Wednesday.

Merseyside Police said two 38-year-old men had been charged with violent disorder in connection with unrest in Southport and Liverpool.

Nigel Farage, leader of the opposition Reform UK party, has gone on social media to say he does not support "street protests, violence or thuggery in any way".

Sir Keir praised the "robust and swift response" of the criminal justice system, adding he expected sentencing of some of those involved to take place by the end of the week.

Speaking to reporters after chairing his second Cobra meeting in two days, the prime minister said: "That should send a very powerful message to anybody involved, either directly or online, that you are likely to be dealt with within a week.

"Nobody, but nobody, should be involved themselves in this disorder."

Mr Farage proposed a plan to stop the rioting which involved ending "mass immigration" and getting "all the police chiefs across the UK together and to say to them, start policing even-handedly".

Nearly 6,000 public order officers are being mobilised to respond to any disorder in the coming days, according to police sources.

The Metropolitan Police said it was "aware" of events planned in parts of London on Wednesday and would "use every power, tactic and tool available to prevent further scenes of disorder".

Earlier the director of public prosecutions, Stephen Parkinson, told the BBC prosecutors were considering terrorism offences for some suspects.

He also said his teams would consider seeking the extradition of social media influencers allegedly playing a role in the disorder from abroad.

Separately, Jordan Parlour, 28, from Leeds, appeared before magistrates to indicate a guilty plea to a charge of using threatening words or behaviour intending to stir up racial hatred, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said.

The CPS said the charge related to a series of Facebook posts made by Parlour in connection with disorder in Leeds on 3 August about attacking a hotel where asylum seekers were housed.

He has been remanded in custody until a sentencing hearing on Friday.

The government also said on Tuesday said it would make more than 500 new prison places available to ensure those taking part in the violence could be jailed.

BBC
 
Champ_Pal said:
^ Admit to what? That illegal immigration is great for UK?

No womder UK is burning. Even Ireland is seeing anti immigration protests.

Globalists and socialists will meet their end soon.
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Admit that immigration is necessary for the UK and admit you are either intentionally conflating legal migrants with refugees/asylum seekers etc or you speak from a position of limited knowledge
 
@Geordie Ahmed - bro are you reading Elon Musks tweets or have you seen what #s are trending in UK? Do you think X will be banned in UK now?
 
Convictions of many rioters to be finished this week - as police brace for 30 more far-right protests

Sir Keir Starmer has said he expects the sentencing of many far-right rioters convicted after widespread unrest in the last few days to take place by the end of the week - as police prepare for 30 more gatherings due to take place on Wednesday evening.

Although officers in Liverpool and Durham issued dispersal orders to head off potential unrest, Tuesday night was free of the violent scenes that have played out across the UK since the initial disturbances in Southport a week earlier.

But officers are monitoring threats of further rioting against immigration law specialists, some of which had either closed or accepted offers of additional police protection.

A list of solicitors' firms and advice agencies has been shared in chat groups as possible targets for gatherings, with the message inviting people to "mask up" if they attend.

The Law Society of England and Wales described such gatherings as a "direct assault on our legal profession", while Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood said threats against solicitors were "unacceptable" and those making them would "join the hundreds of others who have already been arrested by police within the last week".

Approximately 6,000 specialist officers will be at the ready by the end of the week for the so-called "standing army" of police announced by Sir Keir on Monday. These officers have been taken away from their regular duties to deal with ongoing disorder.

source: https://news.sky.com/story/convicti...brace-for-30-more-far-right-protests-13192291
 
IAJ said:
I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.

And how quickly some Indians have forgotton how these White people looted India. And now these jokers are complaining about immigrants. Just deal with it, no other way. There will come more In sha Allah.
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I believe Indians are generally happy accept they are second class citizens for the most part, even their second or third generations seem to adopt the perennial immigrant status despite having been born in the country of their residence. They will often refer to their willingness to integrate as opposed to other nationalities. Of coures integration in their minds means simply assimilation. British Pakistanis are always happy to integrate in Britain as part of the multicultural society which shares the same laws and values.
 
Champ_Pal said:
5) UK identity is White, Christian and English speaking putting their country and culture first. I don't have to explain this thing again and again. Funny you guys want to keep the culture in your native lands, but want to change everything in the west.
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How do we want to change everything that is in the west? When have Muslims as a group ever expressed a desire to change everything in the west? Please don't post a picture of a group of 10 people holding placards, I mean any call which can be described as meaningfully representative.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Globalists and socialists will meet their end soon.
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Far-right was at their peak from 2014 till about 2019. After that, it lost the steam.

This UK thing is very minor and these far-rioters are likely to go to prison or get neutralized.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
Pakistanis unnecessarily losing the advantage by being idiots
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I think overall have been restrained compared to previously but eventually some of these far right will be killed in any confrontations which the media will highlight making the situation worse .

IMO it’s calmed down but the Zionist media & social media want to keep it moving .
 
Rajdeep said:
Are these people who attacked the Sky news journalist and that pub are not thugs?
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They didn’t harm any reporter . Sky is a Murdoch channel, very pro Israel so not liked very much .

As for the pub the owner has clarified the man was banned & he was abusing the Asians in a racist manner , deserved what he got .
 
KingKhanWC said:
I think overall have been restrained compared to previously but eventually some of these far right will be killed in any confrontations which the media will highlight making the situation worse .

IMO it’s calmed down but the Zionist media & social media want to keep it moving .
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There doesn't seem to have been that many incidents of organised violence in retaliation by British Pakistanis, but there have been a couple of groups out looking to retaliate, but there was only one which saw genuine violence and that was the pub in Birmingham where the white guy at the pub started hurling abuse at the passing march.

But any ovestepping the boundaries will end badly for Muslims, that is why it's important to show restraint. The media is owned by vested groups who want to present them in a bad light given the first opportunity. Protect your properties by all means, just don't be stupid and act in the same way as the Tommy Robinson crews.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
There doesn't seem to have been that many incidents of organised violence in retaliation by British Pakistanis, but there have been a couple of groups out looking to retaliate, but there was only one which saw genuine violence and that was the pub in Birmingham where the white guy at the pub started hurling abuse at the passing march.

But any ovestepping the boundaries will end badly for Muslims, that is why it's important to show restraint. The media is owned by vested groups who want to present them in a bad light given the first opportunity. Protect your properties by all means, just don't be stupid and act in the same way as the Tommy Robinson crews.
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The timing of this when Iran & Israel are going to war soon …

Many young Muslims are frustrated after watching 9 months of children being blown up in Gaza by Israeli terrorists. It’s an opportunity for them to vent their frustrations if they bump into the far right Zionists. The problem is unlikely to meet them due to far right going to run down towns mainly in the north . Edl , far right , Hindu extremists or anyone else will not just walk down the streets of Birmingham.

isn’t it strange the motive of the killer of the little girls & other info is not being discussed?
 

'Evil' riot thugs vandalise Muslim graves in 'hate crime' horror as more chaos erupts​


Thugs who splashed Muslim graves with paint during more scenes of chaos have been slammed as “evil” as the clear up begins.

The three stones in the Muslim section of Burnley Cemetery on Monday and sparked outrage. Local councillors say the damage will be cleaned by specialists as a matter of urgency while police are treating the attack as a hate crime. Councillor Afrasiab Anwar, leader of Burnley Council, said: “What type of evil individuals would undertake such outrageous actions, in a sacrosanct place of reflection, where loved ones are buried, solely intended to provoke racial tensions?

“We are working with the police to identify the perpetrator(s) and to ensure they are reprimanded at the earliest opportunity. There is CCTV footage at the cemetery which the police are working through, and we are working with the police to ensure a heightened police presence in the area.

“The council have made arrangements for the graves to be cleaned by a specialist memorial mason as a matter of urgency and the affected families are being contacted. There are heinous individuals who are looking to provoke a reaction in our communities. With actions like this, it is extremely difficult to remain calm, but I would urge you not to react to the provocation.”

One outraged resident said: “Horrendous act to do this. So disrespectful,” while another added: “This is awful, why would someone do this? Totally disrespectful.”

A spokesman for Lancashire Constabulary added: "We have launched an investigation after a report of criminal damage in Burnley today (Monday, August 5). We were called around 4.15pm to Burnley Cemetery on Rossendale Road after a report that paint had been poured across headstones in a Muslim burial area.

“The investigation into this matter is very much ongoing. We are taking this matter incredibly seriously and this is being treated as a hate crime. We do not tolerate hate of any form, and we will do everything in our power to identify the offenders and take the appropriate action.” Anyone with information can contact the police on 101 quoting log 0982 of August 5.

www.mirror.co.uk

Riot thugs vandalise Muslim graves in 'hate crime' horror amid riot chaos

Lancashire Police are investigating a hate crime at Burnley Cemetery this week where three grave stones in the Muslim section were horrifically desecrated with paint by thugs
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Shops urged to close early over riot fears​


Shops have been urged to close early in areas where far-right gatherings are planned following vandalism, arson and looting in parts of the country.

The Association Of Convenience Stores, which represents around 50,000 small retailers in the UK, said it was advising its members to "err on the side of caution" following riots in recent days.

Chief executive James Lowman told Sky News shopkeepers were "very, very concerned" about further disorder, amid reports up to 30 further gatherings are planned for Wednesday evening.

Businesses - including shops and hotels providing accommodation for asylum seekers - have been attacked by rioters during the disturbances.

Several stores have also been hit by looting, including branches of Greggs and Lush in Hull, and a Sainsbury's Local supermarket in Manchester.

It came as fellow trade body the British Retail Consortium held emergency talks on the riots on Wednesday.

Police and government representatives also attended the meeting, which mainly focused on safety measures. Further talks are planned if the riots continue.

Mr Lowman said retailers faced a dilemma over whether to close early for the day, as not all planned gatherings would necessarily go ahead and some previous disturbances had happened at random.

He added: "As well as police information, you've also got misinformation online, rumours, and so on.

"So it's really difficult for retailers to make that decision. We would always urge retailers to err on the side of caution to make sure that they and their colleagues are safe."

He added that "mercifully" his association had not received many reports of attacks on individuals or arson attacks on convenience stores, but described it as "pure luck of the draw".

The association estimates just under half of convenience store owners in the UK define themselves as being of Asian or British Asian ethnicity.

Mr Lowman said: "For those people in particular, the undercurrent of racism that they've probably had to live with throughout their lives, this really brings that to the surface."

He added: "It is about, fundamentally, that people are more important than property and making sure you're erring on the side of caution to make sure people working in the business, and indeed customers who might come into the store, are safe and not caught up in any of these incidents."

Earlier this week InterContinental Hotels Group, which owns brands including Holiday Inn, called for "calm to be restored as soon as possible" following attacks on its businesses in Rotherham and Tamworth over the weekend.

A spokesperson added: "The safety and security of our colleagues and anyone staying in our hotels is always our priority. We continue to work closely with the authorities at a small number of properties".

Analysts have also expressed concerns the disorder will impact consumer confidence and footfall levels for retailers and hospitality venues during the summer period.

Danni Hewson, from investment platform AJ Bell, said earlier this week that the riots were "massively unwelcome" at a time when the UK economy was "struggling to find growth".

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Shops urged to close early over riot fears

Some retailers have been advised to "err on the side of caution" amid worries of further disorder following vandalism, arson and looting in recent days.
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UK police monitoring TikTok for evidence of criminality at far-right riots​


Police officers are watching TikTok in an attempt to catch far-right demonstrators livestreaming self-incriminating footage of their illegal behaviour.

TikTok’s Live function has become one of the defining outlets for coverage of this summer’s riots, with hundreds of thousands of viewers watching live streams of rioting over the last week in cities such as Stoke, Leeds, Hull and Nottingham.

The streams, which can run for hours, are sometimes broadcast by people involved in the disorder. Many of the TikTok streams show the faces of people apparently committing illegal acts such as looting shops or setting property on fire. They are often made by people whose usernames are easily linked to their real-world identities.

A police source said: “Every force will have analysts monitoring social media, TikTok, for evidence-gathering purposes. Regional organised crime units are doing that as well, focusing on the higher end of offending, those who are inciting and the senior organisers.”

Many videos have been recorded and broadcast by members of the public taking part in the disorder or standing in crowds of people rioting. One riot in Middlesbrough on Sunday was simultaneously livestreamed by at least six different TikTok accounts. The footage showed cars being set on fire, bricks thrown through the windows of homes and shops being looted.

One of the streams had 14,000 people watching as it showed people looting an Iceland supermarket in the Teesside town. Another stream from Middlesbrough had 4,000 people watching footage of individuals asking car drivers whether they were white before allowing them to drive down a street – while an off-camera voice shouted “can’t do ****, can’t do nothing” at a line of riot police standing nearby.

During previous riots – such as during disorder that spread across England in 2011 – smartphone ownership was still relatively low and the mobile technology did not easily support livestreaming. As a result, many of the defining videos of that era were comparatively short clips recorded or obtained by professional news outlets or the police.

This time the police are benefiting from the public’s growing tendency to livestream anything of note, aided by improved technology and mobile network capacity enabling people to broadcast their potentially criminal activity.

TikTok’s Live function is a natural home for this coverage due to its ease of use and the popularity of the app. Livestreams of rioting can gain hundreds of viewers a minute as the app’s algorithm rapidly promotes attention-grabbing streams. This allows members of the public to rapidly build live audiences comparable with television news channels, even if the user doing the filming does not have an existing following on the platform.

One complication for police gathering evidence is that TikTok streams vanish from public view once a stream is ended by the user. But a copy remains accessible by the original streamer for up to 90 days, meaning they are accessible on TikTok’s servers.

The police source said other material being used as evidence included CCTV, officers’ bodycam footage, drone footage and video posted on other online platforms by those supporting the violence and those opposing fascism. They said retrospective facial recognition was also in use.

www.theguardian.com

UK police monitoring TikTok for evidence of criminality at far-right riots

Footage of disorder can reach hundreds of thousands of viewers and often shows faces of those committing crimes
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Three men jailed in first Crown Court sentences after riots following Southport attack​


Three men have been jailed after they admitted to their roles in rioting in the wake of the killing of three young girls in Southport.

The sentences are the first at the Crown Court over the disorder, after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer promised quick punishment for those involved.

Liam Riley, 41, from Kirkdale, admitted to violent disorder and a racially aggravated public order offence in Liverpool city centre on Saturday night.

The court heard he went to the city wearing a St George's flag draped around his neck and had been in four or five pubs before becoming involved in the disorder.

He was "clearly drunk" when arrested and became abusive towards the arresting officer who he called a "traitor" and a "Muslim lover", prosecutor Chris Taylor said.

Riley called other officers "retards" and "made comments about Muslims and immigrants" and "expressed a view both were to blame for the tragic events in Southport," he said.

He later said he "didn't like illegals coming over" but wasn't part of a political group.

Riley, who has no previous convictions but two previous cautions, was jailed for 20 months.

Derek Drummond, 58, from Southport, pleaded guilty to violent disorder and assault of an emergency worker in Southport last Tuesday - the day after the three young girls were killed.

The court heard a group of up to 1,000 people were involved in disorder outside a mosque in St Luke's Road in the Merseyside town last Tuesday which lasted for hours and saw some 50 police officers injured.

The crowd chanted "this is our f***ing country", "shithouses, shithouses" and "scumbag *******s" before Drummond punched PC Thomas Ball in the face.

When Drummond was arrested told police he "was a fool and was holding his hands up". He told officers he was "deeply sorry to the people he has let down", the court heard.

He has 14 previous convictions for 19 offences from 1988, which prosecutors said show a "history of violence".

He was jailed for three years.

Declan Geiran, 29, from Liverpool, admitted violent disorder and arson over rioting in Liverpool city centre.

He was caught on CCTV using an implement to set a police van on fire and was found with three lighters when arrested.

He was jailed for two-and-a-half years.

He received 28 months for charges related to the riot - and a further two months for sending threatening messages to a woman, totalling 30 months.

Judge Andrew Menary KC said "every decent member of the community affected by these events will have been appalled, horrified and deeply disturbed about what had taken place in their neighbourhood".

The prime minister has said he hopes this week's sentences will send a "powerful message" to anyone involved in rioting as police prepare for further potential unrest across the country tonight.

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Three men have been jailed after they admitted to their roles in rioting in the wake of the killing of three young girls in Southport.
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