[VIDEOS] Not guilty pleas entered for Southport stabbings suspect Axel Rudakubana after he refuses to speak [Post Updated #710]

[Hitman]

Good message from Shaykh Asrar

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Can you explain what the 11 year old video has to do with the video I posted and the current riots?

 

[Hitman]

Can you explain what the 11 year old video has to do with the video I posted and the current riots?

Here's a 3 month old video.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Here's a 3 month old video.

And you are missing out what relevance they had to the thread topic or the video I posted.

Are you supportive of the rioters?

 

[Hitman]

And you are missing out what relevance they had to the thread topic or the video I posted.

Are you supportive of the rioters?

It's not my country, so not my concern. I was merely responding to the video you posted.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It's not my country, so not my concern. I was merely responding to the video you posted.

But what are you saying?

I posted a video about a mosque imam instructing his followers not to get involved in counter protests and you posted a 11 year old video and 3 months video without explaining why or why they are relevant to the discussion.

Can you explain what point you are trying to make and why you felt it was an appropriate response?

 

[Hitman]

But what are you saying?

I posted a video about a mosque imam instructing his followers not to get involved in counter protests and you posted a 11 year old video and 3 months video without explaining why or why they are relevant to the discussion.

Can you explain what point you are trying to make and why you felt it was an appropriate response?

It was about what's the true face of those masquerading as peace lovers.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It was about what's the true face of those masquerading as peace lovers.

So you think Shaykh Asrar true face is he is involved in Muslim patrol 11 years ok and he is lying now?

Do you think all Muslims are by extension also hiding their true faces?

Is that what you mean to say.

 

[Hitman]

So you think Shaykh Asrar true face is he is involved in Muslim patrol 11 years ok and he is lying now?

Do you think all Muslims are by extension also hiding their true faces?

Is that what you mean to say.

It's not about him specifically. It's about a complete community.

 

[James]

Yep. Football hooligans have nothing better to do at the moment until the Football kicks off again in a week or two

Football hooliganism in England is mostly dead. The majority of hooligans have long term or lifetime bans enforced by their own clubs, and are only able to watch the game at home or (at best) in friendly pubs. If anything this weekend has been a rare opportunity for them to make a cameo reappearance.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It's not about him specifically. It's about a complete community.

What is it about the community you are trying to say?

As I said to one of your friends. I don't understand the code words.

 

[James]

The media are over exaggerating the issue .
Most Brits don’t care , they have their own daily issues.

Then you have a small minority of low intelligence, unhygienic losers who have nothing better to do than cause some trouble .

A few hundred in a few towns causing damage & abusing people , the rest 98% of the country is watching tv .

However the police are again incompetent. Uk is some parts is a real dump sadly

Pretty much this.

I also found the History of Britain discussion interesting in this thread. Britain has been a country of different races and ethnicities for a very long time.

The whole idea of (modern) Britain is that if you obey the rule of law and pay your taxes, then you have freedom from the state and freedom of opinion, and thus anyone can be British. Some people who post from non-Anglosphere countries don’t get this.

 

[IndoorCricket]

AFAIK, Perpetrator is child of parents from Rawanda and was born in UK. If so this is blatant Islamaphobia on display.

 

[Hitman]

Those are the videos of a CNN journalist and another news channel. You haven't bothered to explain them or the relevance to the current topic..I wonder why?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Britain needs better law enforcement.

If a Muslim is committing a crime using every legal means to stop him isn't Islamophobia.

If a non white is doing it using any legal means to stop him isn't racism.

If a right or left wing nut job is doing using legal means to stop him isn't political persecution.

Your first duty is law enforcement without thinking about who the person is.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Britain needs better law enforcement.

If a Muslim is committing a crime using every legal means to stop him isn't Islamophobia.

If a non white is doing it using any legal means to stop him isn't racism.

If a right or left wing nut job is doing using legal means to stop him isn't political persecution.

Your first duty is law enforcement without thinking about who the person is.

Police are doing a good job under pressure.

 

[cricketjoshila]

@DeadlyVenom

Can you explain your laughter?

These RW nut jobs are rioting. Before this a guy stabbed 3 girls. A mosque was damaged and immigrants attacked.

Isn't this failure of law enforcement?

 

[James]

Police are doing a good job under pressure.

Yep. Police numbers have been below what’s needed and most police forces are extremely under-resourced. It will take some time to turn this around under the current government but they are actively investing in the public sector and policing will improve in my opinion.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Police are doing a good job under pressure.

Why are they under pressure?

Do you agree that in last decade and half law and order has gone down in UK?

I have different memories of UK and London.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@DeadlyVenom

Can you explain your laughter?

These RW nut jobs are rioting. Before this a guy stabbed 3 girls. A mosque was damaged and immigrants attacked.

Isn't this failure of law enforcement?

No.

The police are doing a good job under considerable pressure. Organised criminal riots are a difficult thing to manage. You can see in other countries how quickly they get out of hand.

It is easy to say they need to do more but they are dealing with situations that can very quickly get out of hand and spread further especially with the amount of fake news being circulated.

Their main job has to been to defuse and contain. They have done it well given the threats.

In the coming days people involved will be named shamed and charged.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Why are they under pressure?

Do you agree that in last decade and half law and order has gone down in UK?

I have different memories of UK and London.

Your memories were as a tourist but your perception of law and order failure is from the media.

The two won't always align.

Crime has perhaps decreased because of austerity and the lack of opportunities for people so they turn to crime. Our country is suffering from an economic crisis decades long and severe mismanagement.

Local services are decimated.

Crime hasn't increased because of failure of law enforcement imo.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your memories were as a tourist but your perception of law and order failure is from the media.

The two won't always align.

Crime has perhaps decreased because of austerity and the lack of opportunities for people so they turn to crime. Our country is suffering from an economic crisis decades long and severe mismanagement.

Local services are decimated.

Crime hasn't increased because of failure of law enforcement imo.

I spent most of my summer holidays in UK during 90s. Even in mid 2000s. So i believe i have spent quite sometime in UK.

Though i haven't been to UK since 2007-08.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your memories were as a tourist but your perception of law and order failure is from the media.

The two won't always align.

Crime has perhaps decreased because of austerity and the lack of opportunities for people so they turn to crime. Our country is suffering from an economic crisis decades long and severe mismanagement.

Local services are decimated.

Crime hasn't increased because of failure of law enforcement imo.

You think UK needs to reduce some of the welfare schemes and invest in more necessary things like law enforcement.

Also UK was once a hub of manufacturing, it provided enough jobs and was a great contributor to UK economy.

A service based economy isn't doing it for UK.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pretty much this.

I also found the History of Britain discussion interesting in this thread. Britain has been a country of different races and ethnicities for a very long time.

The whole idea of (modern) Britain is that if you obey the rule of law and pay your taxes, then you have freedom from the state and freedom of opinion, and thus anyone can be British. Some people who post from non-Anglosphere countries don’t get this.

British schools teaching accurate history would help a lot. British became very rich right after taking control of what is now India/Pakistan. Whatever wrongs have done isn’t the fault of Brits born & alive today but also knowing how migrants were requested to arrive to help build its industries & nation in general after ww2, would appreciate them more.

However these are not your traditional far right , like the national front or bnp . These are Zionist organised events led my the likes of Robinson & others who are paid by them to demonise Muslims in a nation where Muslims are pretty strong now politically compared to yesteryear. The Israel flag is carried, they wear IDF t shirts , and their narrative is spread by Zionist media such as Talktv , as shared on here by people from India who have no idea of what Uk actually is .

The real far right never looted shops & hate Jews more than anyone else as they believe hitler did . These are yobs who have no jobs , no education, addicted to drink & drugs , while the instigator Tommy Robinson is sat in Spain lol

Robinson was away for a couple of years , even started debating with Muslims as his payments stopped . Israel goes into Gaza , he’s out again quickly . Now the war is about to expand , they need to demonise esp as labour isn’t as loyal as tories with many mps opposing them . Israel simply cannot survive without Uk & Us backing . You demonise people enough , over time people will forget or ignore children seen being blown up by cowardly air strikes .

If they really believe their narrative come to Birmingham where Palestinian flags are flying on every other street in the Muslim majority areas . Smashing up Hull which is a dump anyway is pretty stupid

 

[James]

Though i haven't been to UK since 2007-08.

Changed a lot.

Large cities centrally have got richer, taller, and more prosperous. Wealthy suburbs, comfortable.

Towns and outer city suburbs have got a lot worse. Lots of crime ridden, dirty, drug filled dumps.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You think UK needs to reduce some of the welfare schemes and invest in more necessary things like law enforcement.

Also UK was once a hub of manufacturing, it provided enough jobs and was a great contributor to UK economy.

A service based economy isn't doing it for UK.

Actually I'm not sure how we will get out of it. I think we are in a death spiral.

Welfare schemes are open to fraud and mismanagement. People lie and cheat to get on benefits but it's not the root cause of the crises ( it should be modified though).

But UK has state sanctioned corruption that never gets reported or acted upon. Or state sanctioned tax avoidance. Those funds could go the police.

For example recently the government gave away BILLIONS of public money to their chums during COVID in exchange for contracts and services that never transpired. Friends of MPs were able to text their government contacts and get on special lists to secure contracts without checks taking place

It was the biggest robbery of the tax payer in our history.

The government chose to not focus on it, neither did the right wing media. Instead they blamed everything on immigrants, people coming over on boats and invited culture wars.

And here we are today. No services, no opportunities, riots,...but the blame going on people who did very little to cause it and the people causing the riots are sitting gleefully far away while people are whipped into a frenzy.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I spent most of my summer holidays in UK during 90s. Even in mid 2000s. So i believe i have spent quite sometime in UK.

Though i haven't been to UK since 2007-08.

I don't think we have recovered post 2008 recession.

You were lucky to see the good times.

It's still a lovely place to visit and safe ( no matter what the media tells you) but as @James mentions in a further post the decline in inner city areas is visible and apparent.

That's the areas where most of these riots are taking place. They end up looting ships and stealing sneakers from JD sports under the guise of fighting for their country. They are angry but its misdirected.

 

[James]

Smashing up Hull which is a dump anyway is pretty stupid

Places on the British coast like Hull, Bridlington, Redcar, Rhyl, Great Yarmouth (etc) are like going back in time. Feels like crossing an invisible boundary into the 1970s.

 

[pakistani pride]

UK is a mess.
Huge immigration, growing radical right wing groups.

I was amazed/shocked when I heard the benefits Pakistani people are getting and how easy it is to get your relatives over, who then upon arrival also apply for benefits.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

UK is a mess.
Huge immigration, growing radical right wing groups.

I was amazed/shocked when I heard the benefits Pakistani people are getting and how easy it is to get your relatives over, who then upon arrival also apply for benefits.

I'm not sure there is such a thing as benefits upon arrival.

I don't know much about welfare schemes but that seems incorrect.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please stop sharing irrelevant stuff in this thread. Stop sharing your personal vacations or travel to UK.

DO not derail the thread.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Things are getting messy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1819782317147099387

 

[KingKhanWC]

Places on the British coast like Hull, Bridlington, Redcar, Rhyl, Great Yarmouth (etc) are like going back in time. Feels like crossing an invisible boundary into the 1970s.

I went to blackpool after 20 years , it’s still the same , nothing has been improved or updated. It’s stuck in the 80s, very poor considering one of the most famous English beach towns .

Uk has no natural resources, it’s in huge debt . Other nations are competing for industry share . Ther family system is broken too . It’s hard to see an incline of uk in the next decade .

This frustration also causes anger within idiots trying to blame others

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Topic is on UK and you are asking about US natives.

Well done.

I am responding directly to your assertion that immigration to Britain "will completely destroy the native culture and race of people."

The reason I asked about what is the native culture of America is to establish whether you hold the same principle true universally or are applying it selectively. If you don't like using the US, then you can answer the same question re Australia.

Why are you avoiding answering a simple question. What is the native culture of the US? Is it Irish? European? British? Polish?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It was my first time in Eng and being in Birmingham the whole vibe, ppl, attitude, the way they were dressed etc felt like being in the sub continent...

Oh and like I mention earlier a few mosques as well.. It didn't feel like a Caucasian Christian country..

This was exactly the same as how I felt when I first stepped foot in Southall, the whole high street had been tranformed into a Little India. At the time I thought it was quite cool, similar to having a Chinatown but for Indians. It certainly didn't feel like a Caucasian Christian country, felt more like it was overrun by Sikhs and Hindus.

 

[KB]

They are angry but its misdirected.

I think this is a really good way of putting it. There will be a variety of motives for those taking part in the riots. There will be a section who get some perverse fun and excitement in partaking in such activities, who are just there for the ride. There will also be a section that are genuinely disaffected and some of the roots of this will be economic and cultural. And then there are the Tommy Robinson like ideologues who mobilise the grievances that some people feel, towards particular destructive and prejudiced ends. These ideologues channel the disaffection and anger of a certain group of people towards an outlet, in this case scapegoating Muslims and immigrants. Their job is made easier by the right-wing press and elements of the Conservative Party which have mainstreamed some of the prejudices that the far-right now exploits. The ideologues give the sense of generalised resentment a narrative, a shape.

 

[Romali_rotti]

This was exactly the same as how I felt when I first stepped foot in Southall, the whole high street had been tranformed into a Little India. At the time I thought it was quite cool, similar to having a Chinatown but for Indians. It certainly didn't feel like a Caucasian Christian country, felt more like it was overrun by Sikhs and Hindus.

That's not good Cap, do you now agree with EDL and Tommy Robinson on how they feel their country is being taken over..

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Here's a 3 month old video.

What a fantastic source. TALK TV.

The same TV channel, on which Rishi sunak was called a useless Pxxi by one of his ex ministers

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That's not good Cap, do you now agree with EDL and Tommy Robinson on how they feel their country is being taken over..

No, I actually said in the post you are quoting that I felt it was quite cool being in Southall and compared it with being in Chinatown? Not sure what you are reading exactly?

I have always been quite clear I have enjoyed growing up in a multicultural society. Is that not your experience?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stay on topic. No more irrelavent talk except the southport inciednet and riots after.

 

[Romali_rotti]

No, I actually said in the post you are quoting that I felt it was quite cool being in Southall and compared it with being in Chinatown? Not sure what you are reading exactly?

I have always been quite clear I have enjoyed growing up in a multicultural society. Is that not your experience?

Multi cultural experience is fine but I mainly only saw the Pakistani/Bangladeshi culture in Birmingham during my short stay

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Just a timeline for all those who haven’t been keeping up.

- 3 Kids are murdered

- Suspect arrested

- Right wing fascists accuse suspect of being Muslim

- Fascists protest and attack mosques. Getting bricked in the baws by their own people.

- News leaks that his parents are from Rawanda.

- Fascists now divert their rage to immigration and “past incidents” involving “muslim gangs”.

- Fascists are seen jumping black individuals in 2 separate incidents.

- Fascists are now breaking into Shoezone, JD Sports and phone stores.

Does this really look like people who are upset about the kids being killed?

All it is, is a bunch of neds that are out to loot stores and act big in front of their 2 teethed birds.

Meanwhile, the local community have come together to protect the mosques and to clean up the areas.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Multi cultural experience is fine but I mainly only saw the Pakistani/Bangladeshi culture in Birmingham during my short stay

Which areas did you visit ? Handworth , Smethick and many others have huge Indian populations.

Listen to apache indian . His music proves cultures mix together over time & become a new culture. This isn’t the 60s bro . Some assusies are way worse racists, remember their ancestors were criminals who wiped out entire races along with the Brits . Stay safe too bro

 

[Bewal Express]

Just a timeline for all those who haven’t been keeping up.

- 3 Kids are murdered

- Suspect arrested

- Right wing fascists accuse suspect of being Muslim

- Fascists protest and attack mosques. Getting bricked in the baws by their own people.

- News leaks that his parents are from Rawanda.

- Fascists now divert their rage to immigration and “past incidents” involving “muslim gangs”.

- Fascists are seen jumping black individuals in 2 separate incidents.

- Fascists are now breaking into Shoezone, JD Sports and phone stores.

Does this really look like people who are upset about the kids being killed?

All it is, is a bunch of neds that are out to loot stores and act big in front of their 2 teethed birds.

Meanwhile, the local community have come together to protect the mosques and to clean up the areas.

Great summary.

 

[Bewal Express]

Multi cultural experience is fine but I mainly only saw the Pakistani/Bangladeshi culture in Birmingham during my short stay

Outside Aston there aren't any BDs. PKs mostly in the East- Alum Rock, Small Heath etc. Why didn't you go to the West Brom, Handsworth on the Western side.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Outside Aston there aren't any BDs. PKs mostly in the East- Alum Rock, Small Heath etc. Why didn't you go to the West Brom, Handsworth on the Western side.

I posted my experience when I was in Birmingham.

Birmingham was great, the British culture there was colourful and Vibrant, I can't wait to go back.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I posted my experience when I was in Birmingham.

Birmingham was great, the British culture there was colourful and Vibrant, I can't wait to go back.

Just nice for you to visit those parts , people from India have been arrriving since 50s , they have great stories of there experience & how they became successful

 

[Romali_rotti]

Just nice for you to visit those parts , people from India have been arrriving since 50s , they have great stories of there experience & how they became successful

Thanks for quoting my post in the entirety bro.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Multi cultural experience is fine but I mainly only saw the Pakistani/Bangladeshi culture in Birmingham during my short stay

Then you must have stayed or visited areas of Birmingham which were populated mainly by Bangladeshis or Pakistanis. As far as I know Birmingham is still a majority white city.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Just nice for you to visit those parts , people from India have been arrriving since 50s , they have great stories of there experience & how they became successful

I've asked him a few times why visiting his Indian family felt like England but seeing Pakistanis and mosques scared him because of the vibes he was getting.

He said I should be smart enough to understand.

What do you think his reason is? Is it because it still escapes me?

 

[Bewal Express]

I posted my experience when I was in Birmingham.

Birmingham was great, the British culture there was colourful and Vibrant, I can't wait to go back.

I go to Bham often. It's a mixed bag. Food is amazing but Needs a good paint job

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't think we have recovered post 2008 recession.

You were lucky to see the good times.

It's still a lovely place to visit and safe ( no matter what the media tells you) but as @James mentions in a further post the decline in inner city areas is visible and apparent.

That's the areas where most of these riots are taking place. They end up looting ships and stealing sneakers from JD sports under the guise of fighting for their country. They are angry but its misdirected.

I had a wonderful time in the UK. In 90s it was such a different place. I remember i opened my first email account in UK. Internet wasn't widely available in India then.

Crime wasn't something you would worry about when you stepped out. Grandfather would chat all day with his brothers leaving me and my cousins to do as we please.

What is the plan to come out of this economic decline?

Is UK government planning to give any incentive to manufacturing? This services dependent economy isn't working.

 

[BouncerGuy]

UK govt vows 'consequences' for far-right rioters

The UK government warned Sunday that violent disorder would "not be tolerated" after police made dozens of arrests at far-right rallies following clashes between protesters and officers.

Unrest linked to disinformation about a mass stabbing that killed three young girls last week spread to multiple towns and cities Saturday as anti-immigration demonstrators faced off against counter-protesters.

About 90 people were arrested after skirmishes broke out in numerous English cities, including Liverpool, Manchester, Bristol, Blackpool and Hull, as well as Belfast in Northern Ireland.

In some instances, rioters threw bricks, bottles and flares at police -- injuring several officers -- looted and burnt shots, while demonstrators were also heard shouting anti-Islamic slurs.

The government's policing minister, Diana Johnson, told BBC News that the rioting would "not be tolerated", and that there would be "penalties and consequences" for the disorder.

The skirmishes marked the fourth day of unrest in several towns and cities following Monday's frenzied knife attack in Southport, near Liverpool on England's northwest coast.

They were fuelled by false rumours on social media about the background of British-born 17-year-old suspect Axel Rudakubana, charged with several counts of murder and attempted murder over the attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance party.

Rudakubana is accused of killing Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine, and injuring another 10 people.

Police have blamed the violence on supporters and associated organisations of the English Defence League, an anti-Islam organisation founded 15 years ago whose supporters have been linked to football hooliganism.

Agitators have targeted mosques in Southport and in the northeastern English city of Sunderland, leading to hundreds of Islamic centres to bolster security amid fears for its worshippers' safety.

The violence is the biggest test yet of Prime Minister Keir Starmer's short premiership. He came to power early last month after leading Labour to a landslide win over the Conservatives.

He has accused "thugs" of "hijacking" the nation's grief to "sow hatred" and pledged that anyone carrying out violent acts would "face the full force of the law".

After talks with senior ministers on Saturday he "reiterated that the government backs the police to take all necessary action to keep our streets safe", said a statement from his office.

Police have warned of more demonstrations on Sunday.

AFP

 

[I think therfore I am]

It was my first time in Eng and being in Birmingham the whole vibe, ppl, attitude, the way they were dressed etc felt like being in the sub continent...

Oh and like I mention earlier a few mosques as well.. It didn't feel like a Caucasian Christian country..

I and sure this is what most of the indegnious population used to feel, when the British Empire invaded countries and took over.

Just imagine if Britain never occupied countries and committed mass murder, it would have very few immigrants today. Karma

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I had a wonderful time in the UK. In 90s it was such a different place. I remember i opened my first email account in UK. Internet wasn't widely available in India then.

Crime wasn't something you would worry about when you stepped out. Grandfather would chat all day with his brothers leaving me and my cousins to do as we please.

What is the plan to come out of this economic decline?

Is UK government planning to give any incentive to manufacturing? This services dependent economy isn't working.

I have no idea. I don't see a way out. But UK still has imperial hubris plus people are conditioned to expect relatively high wage ( with low productivity), top class public services and high standards of living.

We aren't achieving anything and already have a high tax burden.

Nobody will want to buy overpriced UK goods so I don't see manufacturing recovering. There is no prestige attached to British goods as there was previously to perhaps justify increased prices.

Unfortunately in such a scenario people's resentment will increase further and further. I think we will see more riots by white people with no qualifications or prospects.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I am responding directly to your assertion that immigration to Britain "will completely destroy the native culture and race of people."

The reason I asked about what is the native culture of America is to establish whether you hold the same principle true universally or are applying it selectively. If you don't like using the US, then you can answer the same question re Australia.

Why are you avoiding answering a simple question. What is the native culture of the US? Is it Irish? European? British? Polish?

Immigration does not destroy native culture and race. But uncontrolled immigration does.

This does not apply to countries like US, Australia as the natives are almost extinct. It’s too late to talk about European immigration to US and Australia. US is a well established country now Nd it has every right to put its citizens first before accepting more people showing up at its border.

What we see now in US and Australia is pretty much European culture with some twist of natural evolution of culture.

I hope you are happy with the reply now.

 

[Hitman]

You haven’t figured out how not to appear Hindutva bigot but still want to be part of your fellow Hindutva bigot brigade.

Thanks for the compliment!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Immigration does not destroy native culture and race. But uncontrolled immigration does.

This does not apply to countries like US, Australia as the natives are almost extinct. It’s too late to talk about European immigration to US and Australia. US is a well established country now Nd it has every right to put its citizens first before accepting more people showing up at its border.

What we see now in US and Australia is pretty much European culture with some twist of natural evolution of culture.

I hope you are happy with the reply now.

So basically you are saying that native culture should be protected as long as it is white and European. If whites Europeans wiped out native cultures outside of Europe, that is history now, and our focus should be on protecting European culture itself, specifically white British culture right now.

 

[HalBass9]

Thanks for the compliment!

It wasn’t a compliment; it was meant to highlight your bigoted nature. By insinuating and indirectly supporting jobless white supremacists in a foreign land through your online contributions, you are perpetuating harmful ideologies.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Section 60 orders issued in Liverpool and Southport

Two Section 60 Orders have been introduced in Liverpool and Southport for 12 hours.

The orders were put in place at 2pm today and will stay active for a 12-hour period until 2am tomorrow.

They have has been introduced to prevent incidents of disorder and criminality after the violence and disorder seen in Liverpool city centre and Walton on Saturday.

The orders give officers more powers to stop and search individuals across areas of Liverpool and Southport and are designed to prevent serious violence.

Sky News

 

[FearlessRoar]

Police in Bristol say 16 arrests made so far

Avon and Somerset police have said they have so far arrested 16 people as they continue with their investigations into the violent disorder in Bristol city centre last night.

The offences they were arrested for included affray, racially aggravated public order, animal cruelty, assaulting an emergency worker and violent disorder.

They also said that objects, including glass bottles, were thrown and an officer had a laser shone in their eyes.

A police horse was also punched and two police dogs were kicked.

Chief inspector Vicks Hayward-Melen said: "We have a long history of facilitating peaceful protest in Bristol, but what we saw last night was not a protest and we will never accept such shameful scenes.

"Those responsible can expect a knock at the door from us soon – we will be relentless in identifying and bringing to justice those who brought criminal violence and disorder to the streets of Bristol yesterday."

Sky News

 

[FearlessRoar]

Starmer: I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder

Sir Keir Starmer is giving an update on the wave of disorder occurring across the UK.

Speaking from Downing Street, he says those that have participated in the violence "will face the full force of the law".

"I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder either directly or those whipping up this disorder online ," he warns.

He says right now there are attacks happening on a hotel in Rotherham.

"There is no justification for taking this action," he adds.

"People in this country have a right to be safe and yet we have seen Muslim communities targeted and attacks on mosques."

The PM says "he won't shy away from calling it what it is" and that is "far-right thuggery".

"To those who feel targeted because of the colour of your skin or your faith I know how frightening this must be," he says.

"I want you to know this violent mob do not represent this country and we will bring them to justice."

Sir Keir adds "this is violence" and "not protest".

"I think there needs to be the full force of the law and it needs to be swift," he adds.

Sky News

 

[FearlessRoar]

Mosques to be offered new emergency security

Mosques will be offered greater protection with new "emergency security" that can be rapidly deployed to respond to violent disorder sweeping across parts of England, the Home Office has announced.

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said the new rapid response process means mosques "at risk of violent disorder" can be offered additional security personnel.

Under the new process now in place, the police, local authorities and mosques can ask for rapid security to be deployed.

This announcement will build on the existing Protective Security for Mosques Scheme, with up to £29.4m already available this year to fund security at mosques and Muslim faith schools.

Sky News

 

[JaDed]

Exactly the reason why Guns are needed

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Exactly the reason why Guns are needed

Then a massacre could happen.

Lack of guns makes the UK much safer than many countries across the world.

 

[JaDed]

Then a massacre could happen.

Lack of guns makes the UK much safer than many countries across the world.

I would say the opposite, guns are like nuclear weapons the fear keeps everyone in check and in their homes.

I have always propagated guns would had helped Dalits in India during the casteist eras of violence.

 

[oatmeal]

Exactly the reason why Guns are needed

Guns would only inflame the situation further. Even most of the cops dont carry guns in the UK, they will be defenceless against the rioters. This is a law and order problem, there are so many videos. Police need to make arrests and quick prosecutions.

Lawyers are so expensive that most of these idiots will have to represent themselves or rely on public defenders who will make a meal of their defence

 

[gani999]

I would say the opposite, guns are like nuclear weapons the fear keeps everyone in check and in their homes.

I have always propagated guns would had helped Dalits in India during the casteist eras of violence.

If you want to see what a free gun culture can do to a country, go to the US. Almost every week some nutjob runs amok and shoots innocent people dead in schools and shopping malls.

The free and open availability of guns does nothing to keep people in check. In fact, it does the exact opposite.

 

[JaDed]

If you want to see what a free gun culture can do to a country, go to the US. Almost every week some nutjob runs amok and shoots innocent people dead in schools and shopping malls.

The free and open availability of guns does nothing to keep people in check. In fact, it does the exact opposite.

Better than communal riots, I live in states and would prefer that over UK communal riots.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I'd take a communal riot any day than a massacre which would be inevitable with guns

 

[oatmeal]

Better than communal riots, I live in states and would prefer that over UK communal riots.

This is not a communal riot, this is a mob causing criminal damage. The cops will make arrests and the threat of prison will make most of these idiots abandon their protests.

Bringing in guns would cause way more damage.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lowkey nailed it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820145038115897668

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Better than communal riots, I live in states and would prefer that over UK communal riots.

Communal riots don't happen very often in the UK. If the police and the courts come down hard on the perpetrators and set exemplary sentences like they did for the Bradford riots in 2001, then you won't see any more communal riots for a long time.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Rioters break into hotel housing asylum seekers as violence leaves 10 police officers injured

Chairs have been hurled at police and windows were smashed as anti-immigration rioters broke into a hotel housing asylum seekers in Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Objects including long pieces of wood were thrown at the Holiday Inn Express and at police officers who lined up in front of the building.

At least 10 officers were injured, including one who was left unconscious, in violent scenes.

Hotel employees and residents were "terrified", but no injuries to them were reported.

At least one injured officer in riot gear was carried away by colleagues.

Police, including some on horseback, had been trying to separate the crowd from the hotel entrance, but a large group forced their way inside after smashing a nearby glass door.

After breaking in, the rioters attempted to set the hotel on fire, before blockading the exit with bins. Riot police were able to move them away from the entrance, but the group moved around the side, throwing rocks and debris at the windows.

Masked men also sprayed fire extinguishers at officers.

Several men attacked police cars, including with a riot shield, stolen from an officer. Police have now formed a line around the hotel, preventing any of the group from getting inside.

Officers in riot gear have started moving back a large crowd who were gathered outside the building.

Addressing the nation, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said that those involved in the unrest today and in recent days in parts of England and Northern Ireland will "regret" it and will "face the full force of the law".

'Staggering' level of violence condemned as communities clash in escalating riots and scores of arrests made

Clashes took place again on Sunday between police and rioters, with two hotels housing asylum seekers attacked. Police stepped up the number of arrests and condemned the "staggering" violence.

news.sky.com

 

[sweep_shot]

Rioters break into hotel housing asylum seekers as violence leaves 10 police officers injured

Chairs have been hurled at police and windows were smashed as anti-immigration rioters broke into a hotel housing asylum seekers in Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Objects including long pieces of wood were thrown at the Holiday Inn Express and at police officers who lined up in front of the building.

At least 10 officers were injured, including one who was left unconscious, in violent scenes.

Hotel employees and residents were "terrified", but no injuries to them were reported.

At least one injured officer in riot gear was carried away by colleagues.

Police, including some on horseback, had been trying to separate the crowd from the hotel entrance, but a large group forced their way inside after smashing a nearby glass door.

After breaking in, the rioters attempted to set the hotel on fire, before blockading the exit with bins. Riot police were able to move them away from the entrance, but the group moved around the side, throwing rocks and debris at the windows.

Masked men also sprayed fire extinguishers at officers.

Several men attacked police cars, including with a riot shield, stolen from an officer. Police have now formed a line around the hotel, preventing any of the group from getting inside.

Officers in riot gear have started moving back a large crowd who were gathered outside the building.

Addressing the nation, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said that those involved in the unrest today and in recent days in parts of England and Northern Ireland will "regret" it and will "face the full force of the law".

'Staggering' level of violence condemned as communities clash in escalating riots and scores of arrests made

Clashes took place again on Sunday between police and rioters, with two hotels housing asylum seekers attacked. Police stepped up the number of arrests and condemned the "staggering" violence.

news.sky.com

I hope these rioters will get long prison sentences. They are attacking innocent people.

 

[Bewal Express]

Then a massacre could happen.

Lack of guns makes the UK much safer than many countries across the world.

Absolutely. Gun crime is rare, although it has increased in recent years

 

[Technics 1210]

If the UK police had the powers to deal with these lawless thugs as police forces around the world do, then we'd be talking about Halloween preparations instead.

Shove the rules of engagement - get those water cannons, tear gas, rubber bullets, and aim at every rioter and press the trigger!

These sods have nothing better to do, so hopefully walking in a limp for months will make them consider twice.

 

[Bewal Express]

I hope these rioters will get long prison sentences. They are attacking innocent people.

As pointed out Bradford riots, Although a reaction to the BNP March led to long sentences and made people think. The London riots in 2012 were also dealt with efficiently as far as the courts were concerned. Let's hope our best officers smoke out the fascists, if not we will have many more.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I hope these rioters will get long prison sentences. They are attacking innocent people.

Surely they will, otherwise UK will lose its credibility.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't understand

The guy(muslim/non muslim) has been arrested. He will be punished. Why riot?

If its about the larger point of illegal immigrants, sit down with the government. May be UK can withdraw from the refugees convention and deport asylum seekers (Economic migrants).

Government too should try not to fan the flames. Sometimes arresting too many will only make it worse.