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Even if true, I don't get why he wants to announce this to the world. Creates such a bad impression of the team. He needs to realise he is not a pundit any longer. As CS he needs to think before he speaks.
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I agree. A bit weird that he is saying all these things on TV about current players being the CS. Surely their should be some sort of code of conduct policy for the CS as well to follow.Even if true, I don't get why he wants to announce this to the world. Creates such a bad impression of the team. He needs to realise he is not a pundit any longer. As CS he needs to think before he speaks.
Weren't you asking for Haris Sohail's selection the other day ?An interesting comment from Wahab Riaz but one that is not hard to believe. A few of the Pakistani players were unable to complete a 2KM run at the training camp recently.
Babar is one that comes to mind who has poor fitness levels and has developed a tummy. Their are a few other obvious ones such as Azam Khan, etc.
Do you believe the Pakistani players are short on fitness standards?
its obvious paks fitness standards are poor, misbah is the last person who tried to enforce fitness standards on his teams, after which its been downhill.WahabRiaz was speaking on a local Pakistani news channel and stated:
"We must have fitness tests. I told you that when we came, unfortunately, we had to announce the team. We are getting some news that maybe the fitness of the players…, the interesting thing is that what you talked about, I would like to tell you that from the previous management, we have heard that do not ask the players about their fitness. The logic behind this was that they pampered the players a lot. Let me tell you that some players couldn’t even run 2 km."
True. Wahab never slowed down and held his pace throughout his career. He has bowled 8-10 over spells with consistent pace. In fact he may have gotten quicker with age. In 2008 he was bowling at 135 by 2019 it was 145.its obvious paks fitness standards are poor, misbah is the last person who tried to enforce fitness standards on his teams, after which its been downhill.
shoaib akhter got a lot of flack for his fitness problems throughout his career but he bowled 100% nearly every game, now you have players patently sandbagging, missing games, and not being called out for it.
wahab had a lot of issues but fitness was not one of em, dude always looked athletic even towards the end of his career, so whilst it may not be appropriate to air dirty laundry in public, hes one of the few people who can actually call the guys out on it.
Yep… even though Imam is in the shape as him nowadays but gets a free run instead.It’s funny how the old management compromised on fielding but the excuse to keep Sharjeel out of the side was his fitness
Shoaib Malik is probably the pioneer for Pakistan in setting the trend of modern fitness.Sohaib Malik looks fitter than most of the pak basmen. Bowlers are okay. But batsmen are all fat.
He could definitely be a candidate for our coaching setup in the fitness/conditioning department, even fielding too since he was one of the best fielders we've produced.Sohaib Malik looks fitter than most of the pak basmen. Bowlers are okay. But batsmen are all fat.
Wrong. Pakistan cricketers from 60s-90s were far more fit than the post 2003 teams. It’s incredibly obvious.Pakistan has NEVER had a fitness culture people seem to be deluded by thinking that it ever even existed.
There's no culture even about having dietary requirements for players as the players themselves don't care about such things themselves.
Even if you look in general in Pakistan there's no concept of healthy eating or having a good diet as fast food places seem to be booming and shisha places seem to be on every corner of the street all over the country and are packed to the brim as shisha seems to be a very cool way to get noticed or hooked up.
There's a lack of healthy eating habits and there's barely much places in the country where you can go and have a health check or food which is good enough.
There's a massive difference between the players of the 60's, 70's and so forth. Most came from educated backgrounds and were influenced by western culture so they knew the best way to use it. There weren't all that were focused about fitness but there where a few individuals that took it seriously and wanted to bring that culture in.Wrong. Pakistan cricketers from 60s-90s were far more fit than the post 2003 teams. It’s incredibly obvious.
It’s not a coincidence that Younis Khan, Misbah, Malik and Afridi were destroying fitness tests while guys 10-20 years younger were failing by 2012-2015 by which time they had all reached their 40s. Imran was strict on fitness during his captaincy stint too.
No one is saying to weigh out each morsel of food before consumption and take 100 different supplements. But there is a standard of fitness that existed for sportsmen in Pakistan cricket 20-25 years ago that doesn’t exist anymore.
Let’s not rewrite history to make it easier to cope with how far we’ve fallen.
Dont these PSL teams enforce fitness rules?Maybe we should introduce a policy where you can not play PSL without a fitness requirement. I think that would cause many cricketers to quickly get into shape otherwise lose a lot of money.
When it comes to international it’s tough to enforce. As when you have that much domestic performance it’s difficult to ignore for international selection and some players see international cricket as just a bonus.
If Azam can play it can’t be a high fitness requirement.Dont these PSL teams enforce fitness rules?
Rohit and pant are also fat.Sohaib Malik looks fitter than most of the pak basmen. Bowlers are okay. But batsmen are all fat.
I think it's more so about your performance in the game.Rohit and pant are also fat.
In this world cup expect another video with babar sayingThese cake celebrations and the "roti gang" are basically spoiling the standards of our team.
Couple of my family members were watching this Pakistani celebrity indoor cricket match on ARY. It’s like a cricket league with a bunch of teams all consisting of well known actors and actresses.
And if you put them alongside our cricketers, esp the ones not in great shape, and asked a non Asian which one of these is a sportsman and which one is an average person, they would pick the actor 10/10 times.
Afridi today still looked match fit and ready to go at 45, same with Younis, Misbah and Moin Khan and Wasim Akram at 50+ (Wasim is almost 60).
Yet Moin’s son is playing in such a sorry state? And people want him to be selected?
I understand from 60s-90s, cricket had prestige in Pakistan and attracted people who cared about reputation. Now we see a bunch of paindus, smoking, eating halwa puri and tikka and kebab while Kohli across the border hasn’t seen a ball of gulab jamun since age 18 (actually I think he said he quit rice altogether).
It’s “small” things like these that get under my skin and make me realize that I don’t think we’ll be a top 3 team for a prolonged period ever again. Not fitness by itself, but the lack of professionalism in things like fitness, attitude, willingness to improve, it’s a sad state of affairs.
What are the MBAs we’ve hired from UK doing in PCB? What’s Imran khan doing since he said we’ll shoot to the top again once he became PM? I know these things take time, but what’s being done?
Because he knows nobody can remove him even with his pathetic fitness level... see his tummy is sticking out at just the age of 29.Babar Azam has never been consistently conscious about his fitness. Now that he has returned as captain, it seems like the end of the fitness culture once again. And as you can see, more fun is being had at the Kakul training camp than actual training.
There has never been a fitness ‘culture’ to begin with. Remember, the you need to have discipline and eat the right food in the kitchen - Pakistan as a country already fail on those two aspects.
You then have to look at how things have progressed around us - there is a whole fitness industry / culture out there. Yet Pakistan cricket are attending these meaningless army boot camps just so army can tick their own box.
If I was a PT - I would never allow my fast bowlers to be attending military esque bootcamps especially when it’s not a consistent thing and if they have come from rehab (Shaheen). I would place them on programme that focus on flexibility, compound movements and high fibre/high protein diet.
You know what the sad thing is? A lot of Pakistani players failed to ever reach their true potential due to not taking their fitness seriously. Shoaib Akhtar for example would do bodyweight isolated workouts - that really ruined him in many ways but it’s not his fault as he had no qualified coaches in the fitness world to advise him.
Which Akthar are we talking about?The Misbah era as captain had what was probably the closest thing to a fitness culture.
I will say though for Shoaib, despite all the body building he could run miles and miles and still maintain his pace. None of our pacers could get through a full test series today.
That was mainly because of his knee issues. Otherwise he was fit.Which Akthar are we talking about?
I remember how he was huffing and puffing to bowl during the 2003-04 series that Sehwag dominated.
He was struggling to bowl 15 overs in a day after he hit 30 and retired from test cricket at 32. For all purposes, post WC 03 he was a pale shadow of his former self , ie, at 28 he was basically done and dusted.
The knee could be effect of him being overweight right?That was mainly because of his knee issues. Otherwise he was fit.
He had degenerative knee issues since birthThe knee could be effect of him being overweight right?
And after all this I fully expect Azam Khan to be picked.As per reports:
National cricketers included in the Test squad and those under consideration for the central contract will face a series of rigorous fitness tests, set to commence on September 7 in Lahore.
Fitness tests for Test squad members and some centrally contracted cricketers are scheduled for September 7 and 9 in Lahore. These tests are tied to the central contract, prompting national cricketers to feel anxious as they ramp up their preparations to meet the stringent fitness requirements.
PCB has set a passing criterion of 60%, higher than the international benchmark of 50%, adding to the pressure on the cricketers. The fitness assessment will include a variety of exercises such as bench press, skinfold measurements, bench pull, squat, and jump tests.
Players will be required to complete a 2-kilometer trial run within 8 minutes and six sets of three sprints with a 30-second break between each set. The sprints must be completed within 10 seconds per set, a requirement that has particularly heightened the players' anxiety.
The PCB plans to announce the central contracts after the results of the fitness tests are finalized. It is expected that the number of central contract players will be reduced to 25, a decrease from last year's 30. This has further intensified the competition, as several current players may be dropped, and new talent could be introduced.
before the selection of mighty Azam Khan lolWhen did pak have a fitness culture at all by the way??
Under Mickey they were hot...When did pak have a fitness culture at all by the way??
Couple of my family members were watching this Pakistani celebrity indoor cricket match on ARY. It’s like a cricket league with a bunch of teams all consisting of well known actors and actresses.
And if you put them alongside our cricketers, esp the ones not in great shape, and asked a non Asian which one of these is a sportsman and which one is an average person, they would pick the actor 10/10 times.
Afridi today still looked match fit and ready to go at 45, same with Younis, Misbah and Moin Khan and Wasim Akram at 50+ (Wasim is almost 60).
Yet Moin’s son is playing in such a sorry state? And people want him to be selected?
I understand from 60s-90s, cricket had prestige in Pakistan and attracted people who cared about reputation. Now we see a bunch of paindus, smoking, eating halwa puri and tikka and kebab while Kohli across the border hasn’t seen a ball of gulab jamun since age 18 (actually I think he said he quit rice altogether).
It’s “small” things like these that get under my skin and make me realize that I don’t think we’ll be a top 3 team for a prolonged period ever again. Not fitness by itself, but the lack of professionalism in things like fitness, attitude, willingness to improve, it’s a sad state of affairs.
What are the MBAs we’ve hired from UK doing in PCB? What’s Imran khan doing since he said we’ll shoot to the top again once he became PM? I know these things take time, but what’s being done?
Who is the fitness and health conditioning coach? Fitness of Pakistani team has gone down definitely.
2km in 8 mins is like college level...As per reports:
National cricketers included in the Test squad and those under consideration for the central contract will face a series of rigorous fitness tests, set to commence on September 7 in Lahore.
Fitness tests for Test squad members and some centrally contracted cricketers are scheduled for September 7 and 9 in Lahore. These tests are tied to the central contract, prompting national cricketers to feel anxious as they ramp up their preparations to meet the stringent fitness requirements.
PCB has set a passing criterion of 60%, higher than the international benchmark of 50%, adding to the pressure on the cricketers. The fitness assessment will include a variety of exercises such as bench press, skinfold measurements, bench pull, squat, and jump tests.
Players will be required to complete a 2-kilometer trial run within 8 minutes and six sets of three sprints with a 30-second break between each set. The sprints must be completed within 10 seconds per set, a requirement that has particularly heightened the players' anxiety.
The PCB plans to announce the central contracts after the results of the fitness tests are finalized. It is expected that the number of central contract players will be reduced to 25, a decrease from last year's 30. This has further intensified the competition, as several current players may be dropped, and new talent could be introduced.
Look at that tummy of Naseem Shah. What are you doing brother? What these guys are eating?
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What I don't understand is how this isn't one of the top priorities in your life if you're a professional athlete? Not everyone is a Rohit or a Pant, where they can coast by despite having a questionable level of fitness. And as we have heard Kohli say, improving your fitness improves every aspect of your game from running between the wickets to fielding. For me, lack of fitness showcases a lack of seriousness towards the game that is unbecoming of a professional athlete.There is no fitness culture in all asian countries not just pakistan.
India got super fit a few years ago but right now they have rohit pant sarfraz who are not as fit as their australian or English counterparts.
And it has been like this for ages
One anomaly being kohli who looks at his fitness from a whole diff perspective.
Its a culture thing. And pak srl india all need to improve on this front
Just for instance look at this Australian tour, how many times they ran another run while the ball was in the hand of fielder but they couldnt even throw it.What I don't understand is how this isn't one of the top priorities in your life if you're a professional athlete? Not everyone is a Rohit or a Pant, where they can coast by despite having a questionable level of fitness. And as we have heard Kohli say, improving your fitness improves every aspect of your game from running between the wickets to fielding. For me, lack of fitness showcases a lack of seriousness towards the game that is unbecoming of a professional athlete.
What angers me most, even more than all this is their lack of professionalism. If they just learned how to do the basics right (fielding, running between the wickets, fitness) and be professional they would not lose as often as they do. Sometimes not making idiotic mistakes and doing the simple things right is all you have to do. But they don't understand this. In alot of ways, the system is to blame. Because in other countries these basics are prioritized at a very young age. But players bear alot of responsibility for their inability to pick up these things as they grow older too. They have worked under alot of coaches and high-level professionals but no one has been able to make much of a difference on their fielding or their fitness.Just for instance look at this Australian tour, how many times they ran another run while the ball was in the hand of fielder but they couldnt even throw it.
You ll play some great innings or bowl or field well based on your talent but u do need a specific fitness which will help you do justice to ur talent.
As professional cricketers i have never seen pakistani batsman being able to hit six with ease except for asif in recent times or maybe fakhar and saim. They are professional cricketers and you'd think the amount of time they spend in nets they ll learn and adapt but i am damn sure they just do that fwd defense or drives as practice.
We lack innovation, education and hunger to improve be it fitness or any other aspect of the game
Salman Butt, in a recent video on his official YouTube channel, spoke about fitness levels of Pakistan’s players:
“Yes, he [Aqib Javed] talked about Fakhar Zaman. We all know about his knee injury, but I think with age, Fakhar needs to work on his strength,” said Butt. “I’m telling you, every single one of our players needs to do strength training to stay fit as they grow older.”
“Whether it’s Fakhar or any other player, the way things are going now, they need strength training. It’s as simple as that. Just running isn’t going to achieve anything.”
“I look at these players and I’m amazed—there’s [athletic] tape on their knees, tape on their legs. They look less like athletes and more like mummies from the movies, wrapped in so many tapes.”
“Instead of wrapping your bones with tape, wrap them with muscle. Don’t fear gaining muscle weight—muscle is heavier than fat, but it protects your bones, and it enhances your agility, speed, power, and explosive strength.”
“If you want to enhance your career and compete at a higher level. Whether you’re 18 or 35, this is essential for every player.”