[VIDEOS] Quinton de Kock & David Warner in scuffle as tempers flare [David Warner fined Post #82]

[Abdullah719]

[VIDEOS] Quinton de Kock & David Warner in scuffle as tempers flare [David Warner fined Post #82]

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DURBAN – Quinton de Kock and David Warner were involved in a heated confrontation at tea on the fourth day of the first Test between South Africa and Australia at Kingsmead.

Independent Media obtained CCTV footage of the incident, which started at the bottom of the stairs going up to the team dressing-rooms.

The scuffle saw several players on both teams getting involved, including captains Faf du Plessis and Steve Smith, who tried to separate the fracas.

It followed a playing session where Australia were frustrated by a strong Proteas rearguard, led by centurion Aiden Markram and supported by Theunis de Bruyn and then De Kock.

In the footage, Warner is visibly agitated and remonstrating with De Kock, and is pulled away by Usman Khawaja before several other players got involved at the lobby of the two dressing-rooms.

A shirtless Du Plessis is seen in discussion with Warner, before both teams eventually make it into their dressing-rooms.

Markram had confirmed that there had been plenty of words exchanged on the field, and it comes on the back of the tourists requesting the stump microphones to be turned down between balls.

The series had been played in a competitive but fair manner until the fourth day, when tempers got heated.

When AB de Villiers was run out, he had the ball dropped right next to his body by Nathan Lyon after he had dived in vain to make his ground.

It is unclear at this stage if either of the team’s management has seen the footage.

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/cricket...cuffle-as-tempers-flare-at-kingsmead-13591677

 

[princeuk]

Competitive but fair, I cringe when I read this. David warner always seems to get involved in these tussles, he is just a bully.

 

[aloo paratha]

David Warner being an idiot as always.

 

[TeymurBlake]

David Warner at his finest.

 

[giri26]

unnecessary controversy for Australia as they are going to win this game comfortably. SA have fought well but are going to fall well short. Their strategy of blunting the Aussie pacers by going for a less spicy pitch did not work out unfortunately. Back to back losses, one on a very spicy pitch and one less but the result is the same.

 

[Jabo]

there is a test match going on?

 

[CricketCartoons]

This will attract less criticism as it is an Australian player. Would have been a scandal if it was a desi player.

 

[Suleiman]

lol @ Warner. Grown man with a wife and kid taking on a masoom and sharif insaan like Quinton. Where is this bravery when the ball is swinging at or away from him?

I remember him getting hyper at Shehzad as well when Johnson dismissed him UAE despite Aussie being slaughtered there like it was eid ul baqra.

Hope this eggs on QdK further and he scores big today.

 

[Poutine]

lol @ Warner. Grown man with a wife and kid taking on a masoom and sharif insaan like Quinton. Where is this bravery when the ball is swinging at or away from him?

I remember him getting hyper at Shehzad as well when Johnson dismissed him UAE despite Aussie being slaughtered there like it was eid ul baqra.

Hope this eggs on QdK further and he scores big today.

QDK isn't all that masoom though, I remember he once pushed Junaid khan few years ago in an ODI . So he has a bit of history of this.

Can't really say for certain who is at fault in this case.

 

[Pete Rose]

I am not sure how i feel about this.... its happening in the dugout, not on the ground.
yeah, yeah its happening during state of play while he is a contracted player

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Warner has just given one example of his unsuitability to vice captain the Australian team.

Anyone can get in an argument, and for all we know QdK may be the instigator, but as a leader you cannot get involved in a way where your mates are physically holding you back, as if it were the start of a barroom brawl.

 

[MenInG]

Media Advisory: Statement on CCTV Footage from Kingsmead

Monday, 05 March 2018

Standard Bank Proteas team manager, Dr Mohammed Moosajee, has given the following statement following the revelation of CCTV footage from day four of the first Sunfoil Test match against Australia at Sahara Stadium Kingsmead:

“It’s rather unfortunate that the incident took place and certainly not in the spirit of the game. The match referee had spoken to us after the day’s play. We will await any further communication from the ICC around this incident.”

 

[Gilly]

Warner has just given one example of his unsuitability to vice captain the Australian team.

Anyone can get in an argument, and for all we know QdK may be the instigator, but as a leader you cannot get involved in a way where your mates are physically holding you back, as if it were the start of a barroom brawl.

I think it cements his position and worthy of the being vice captain.

 

[princeuk]

lol @ Warner. Grown man with a wife and kid taking on a masoom and sharif insaan like Quinton. Where is this bravery when the ball is swinging at or away from him?

I remember him getting hyper at Shehzad as well when Johnson dismissed him UAE despite Aussie being slaughtered there like it was eid ul baqra.

Hope this eggs on QdK further and he scores big today.

That same series he was being rude towards Younis Khan and we all know that Younis does not get involved in this nonsense, Warner showing how insecure he is by always having a go at the opposition.
However these are not isolated incidents.

 

[Junaids]

De Kock and Warner are quite similar: uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive.

Unfortunately, Warner is a constant target because his gorgeous wife has a well-documented colourful past. Even the Barmy Army sing a revolting song about the SBW incident.

It’s obnoxious, and the ICC and grounds should ban for life anyone referring to it.

 

[Gilly]

De Kock and Warner are quite similar: uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive.

Unfortunately, Warner is a constant target because his gorgeous wife has a well-documented colourful past. Even the Barmy Army sing a revolting song about the SBW incident.

It’s obnoxious, and the ICC and grounds should ban for life anyone referring to it.

Thats the unusual thing about cricket, uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive players like De Kock and Warner who are just run of the mill normal blokes who can play cricket. I think it upsets the educated sophisticated supporters that cant play cricket, it just seems to come out.

 

[CricCrazyNick]

This series will be one to remember-Tweet AB De Villiers
Good Luck Australia

 

[Junaids]

Thats the unusual thing about cricket, uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive players like De Kock and Warner who are just run of the mill normal blokes who can play cricket. I think it upsets the educated sophisticated supporters that cant play cricket, it just seems to come out.

You know perfectly well what I mean.

Players like AB and FAF who went to Affies have had an education which includes how to behave, the idea of being magnanimous in defeat or victory.

Players like Warner (and McGrath with Sarwan) push the personal abuse beyond any acceptable level, then get aggrieved when they find the abuse returned in a way which hurts or embarrassed them.

Yes, Sarwan’s comment to McGrath was in awful taste. But McGrath’s comment which provoked it was what crossed the line.

Same with Warner. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. And if I was (lucky enough to be) married to Candice Falzon, I wouldn’t shout my mouth off verbally abusing other people.

 

[Uzzy_Khan]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

 

[pillionrider]

Doe eyed de Kock comes across as not being some saint himself. So....

Warner's behaviour after de Villiers was run out was comical, though it showed how much he cares about winning which is what his fans probably like about him.

However, Lyon dropping the ball on de Villiers was poor and he has rightly been punished which he accepted without a whimper underlining the fact that it was deliberate and a cheap move.

 

[SamNJ]

The Aussie favorite "he brought my wife into it" card seems to be out.

 

[karthikc]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

Its all about the bucks..Remember Ponting abusing Srinath when a bouncer hit his face and Srinath actually even apologised for it..Times have changed

 

[pillionrider]

Warner's behaviour after de Villiers was run out was comical, though it showed how much he cares about winning which is what his fans probably like about him.

However, Lyon dropping the ball on de Villiers was poor and he has rightly been punished which he accepted without a whimper underlining the fact that it was deliberate and a cheap move.

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[barah_admi]

That is not a scuffle but Warner needs to be punished. He has been in so many of these incidents how has he not accumulated enough demerits to be suspendeD?

 

[ManFan]

De Kock and Warner are quite similar: uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive.

Unfortunately, Warner is a constant target because his gorgeous wife has a well-documented colourful past. Even the Barmy Army sing a revolting song about the SBW incident.

It’s obnoxious, and the ICC and grounds should ban for life anyone referring to it.

He should be careful. Otherwise, that incident could haunt him for the rest of his cricketing career if someone uses it properly.

 

[Dingolfy]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

I think you should check your eyes and ears first.They sledge Kohli enough.Rabada was having a go at Kohli during all the test matches.But the difference is Kohli can both dish out and take it very well unlike Australians who cant take the heat when shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Dingolfy]

The Aussie favorite "he brought my wife into it" card seems to be out.

And we all know they never say personal stuff about other players.Classical case of big high school bully who cries and runs to the principal when somebody gives him back his own medicine.When you dish out, please make sure you are man enough to take it back too.Else dont start it at the first place.

 

[IndianFan2018]

De Kock and Warner are quite similar: uneducated, unsophisticated and aggressive.

Unfortunately, Warner is a constant target because his gorgeous wife has a well-documented colourful past. Even the Barmy Army sing a revolting song about the SBW incident.

It’s obnoxious, and the ICC and grounds should ban for life anyone referring to it.

SBW incident .... What is it ?

 

[WengerOut]

SBW incident .... What is it ?

Her tryst with Sonny Bill Williams , a rugby league superstar.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Her tryst with Sonny Bill Williams , a rugby league superstar.

... and union.

 

[Cozyrensetter]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

You forget how they got inside Kohli's head during the series in India.They mocked his injury,frustated him.I saw the banglore test in the stadium and when kohli got out a lot was said.They succeded in keeping him quiet.No wonder at the end of the series Kohli said his friendship with them is over

 

[wrongun]

Warner was definitely her last, desperate choice after a whole bunch of other sports from Oz & NZ stars had a relationship of some sort with her. over the years I guess him & her have made her peace with that but it's an easy accusation to stir him with.

It's a bad look all around. Probably too far with the target of the sledging but Warner & lYon made a big song & dance in the media about how they wanted the stem mics turned down & the heat turned up. So what you reap is what you sow.

 

[Junaids]

Please, cut out the personal abuse of Mrs Warner.

It’s fine for people to know her background, but avoid the moral judgments.

In our (Australian) society, what she did is perfectly normal for a single woman. That’s not to say that her future husband won’t get sledged over it. But it’s normal behaviour here.

She is now a wife and a mother and deserves respect. But part of that respect should come from her husband not bullying the opposition verbally. Because when he does, what happens next is inevitable, and it brings his wife and kids into it. It’s Warner who started it this time.

 

[ManFan]

Please, cut out the personal abuse of Mrs Warner.

It’s fine for people to know her background, but avoid the moral judgments.

In our (Australian) society, what she did is perfectly normal for a single woman. That’s not to say that her future husband won’t get sledged over it. But it’s normal behaviour here.

She is now a wife and a mother and deserves respect. But part of that respect should come from her husband not bullying the opposition verbally. Because when he does, what happens next is inevitable, and it brings his wife and kids into it. It’s Warner who started it this time.

The end justifies the means. Don't put your family out there if you don't want to hurt them.

 

[Sherlock]

Tbf, we don't know what happened. As long as it wasn't physical.

Also, Faf coming out with the towel around his waist

 

[Amjid Javed]

Am sure Match Ref will have his broom out and will sweep it under the carpet like nothing has happened

 

[ManFan]

Am sure Match Ref will have his broom out and will sweep it under the carpet like nothing has happened

Didn't Faf's ball tampering also get swept under the carpet?

 

[Dingolfy]

You forget how they got inside Kohli's head during the series in India.They mocked his injury,frustated him.I saw the banglore test in the stadium and when kohli got out a lot was said.They succeded in keeping him quiet.No wonder at the end of the series Kohli said his friendship with them is over

Quiet? May be with the bat but definitely not with mouth and actions.That is one thing I love about new generation Indian cricketers.Always gives back way more than what they got in kind.

 

[Sam99]

You forget how they got inside Kohli's head during the series in India.They mocked his injury,frustated him.I saw the banglore test in the stadium and when kohli got out a lot was said.They succeded in keeping him quiet.No wonder at the end of the series Kohli said his friendship with them is over

Aussies said they will make kohli doubt on his abilities before series started and they did succeed in both test and odi series against him.

 

[ManFan]

Quiet? May be with the bat but definitely not with mouth and actions.That is one thing I love about new generation Indian cricketers.Always gives back way more than what they got in kind.

It boggles my mind why some cricket fans prefer the soft-spoken and non-confrontational approach. It doesn't fit us desis.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Warner thugging around

Man I expect Rabada&co to sing some chin music at Warner next game.

Warner has to control his temper. He threw a punch at Root as well IIRC

QDK had bat in his hand... for a moment he must have thought about giving it a swing

 

[Dingolfy]

Warner was definitely her last, desperate choice after a whole bunch of other sports from Oz & NZ stars had a relationship of some sort with her. over the years I guess him & her have made her peace with that but it's an easy accusation to stir him with.

It's a bad look all around. Probably too far with the target of the sledging but Warner & lYon made a big song & dance in the media about how they wanted the stem mics turned down & the heat turned up. So what you reap is what you sow.

Finally one Aussie who gets it.But to tell the truth, your boys were always softies who couldnt take it back.Way worse stuff including even religion is said to each other during Indo-Pak matches, but nobody takes it out of the field like this.

 

[ManFan]

Finally one Aussie who gets it.But to tell the truth, your boys were always softies who couldnt take it back.Way worse stuff including even religion is said to each other during Indo-Pak matches, but nobody takes it out of the field like this.

Everybody is scared of upsetting the Aussies as they almost always come out on top except in India. So when someone talks back and does so with enough bite, the players are shellshocked.

 

[Dingolfy]

It boggles my mind why some cricket fans prefer the soft-spoken and non-confrontational approach. It doesn't fit us desis.

So true.Anybody who knows Punjabis on both sides shouldn't be saying that Desis should avoid confrontation.Kohli,Dhawan,Ishant and Gambhir comes from a city where MC-BCs appear in every sentence and even housewives beat Armymen in roadrage!You cant expect them to behave like Gandhi on the field.

 

[big_gamer007]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

Its all about the bucks..Remember Ponting abusing Srinath when a bouncer hit his face and Srinath actually even apologised for it..Times have changed

Err watch Aussies vs India last series when Aussies toured India. The sledging was next level and way too personal when players made fun of kohli’s Injury.. Not everything is about money Aussies are very competitive and sledging is part of their routine.. Stop spreading lies here..

Personally I feel sledging is fun and as long as no one gets physical it adds a bit of spice to a game like cricket which desperately needs it, especially test matches.. People here who are having a go against Aussies for sledging actually watch the videos and enjoy themselves but try and act morally superior or “educated”..

We need more characters like kohli, Warner, symonds, McGrath, warnie etc

 

[ManFan]

Err watch Aussies vs India last series when Aussies toured India. The sledging was next level and way too personal when players made fun of kohli’s Injury.. Not everything is about money Aussies are very competitive and sledging is part of their routine.. Stop spreading lies here..

Personally I feel sledging is fun and as long as no one gets physical it adds a bit of spice to a game like cricket which desperately needs it, especially test matches.. People here who are having a go against Aussies for sledging actually watch the videos and enjoy themselves but try and act morally superior or “educated”..

We need more characters like kohli, Warner, symonds, McGrath, warnie etc

Sledging is a test to the batsman's concentration. It's as important as leaving the ball on line and length. Hate this timid approach that's been plaguing Pakistan cricket too for 15 years.

 

[big_gamer007]

Sledging is a test to the batsman's concentration. It's as important as leaving the ball on line and length. Hate this timid approach that's been plaguing Pakistan cricket too for 15 years.

Exactly not sure why fans want saints when they themselves are no saints irl.. Not everyone can be Dravid or tendu we need more aggressive players makes game interesting for spectators..

 

[ManFan]

Exactly not sure why fans want saints when they themselves are no saints irl.. Not everyone can be Dravid or tendu we need more aggressive players makes game interesting for spectators..

The "gentleman" approach reeks of a time long gone and has cost Indian cricket for far too long.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Didn't Faf's ball tampering also get swept under the carpet?

Ball tampering is different and he was rightly banned.

In regards to going overboard with sledging the ICC never seem to step in and hand out bans!

 

[ManFan]

Ball tampering is different and he was rightly banned.

In regards to going overboard with sledging the ICC never seem to step in and hand out bans!

Thanks for the Faf info. This is not sledging because it took place off the cricket field.

 

[JattMaula]

Way worse things happened on tours. I remember Anderson beating up Jadeja. But ECB is more efficient and they quickly got rid of camera footage.

 

[Bhaijaan]

My dear brothers of PakPassion,

How many of us know what occurred between David Warner and Quintin?

If we don't know the true story then we must give both gentlemen the benefit of doubt and should not pass judgmental comments against them for that would be unfair.

Let the true story come out first.

Both players are grown up and mature.

 

[DeadBall]

My dear brothers of PakPassion,

How many of us know what occurred between David Warner and Quintin?

If we don't know the true story then we must give both gentlemen the benefit of doubt and should not pass judgmental comments against them for that would be unfair.

Let the true story come out first.

Both players are grown up and mature.

Grown up and mature aren't mutually exclusive. Also their previous records display them in a negative light.

 

[Reddy]

The South African camp, suggested that Warner had also directed personal abuse towards de Kock about his mother and sister on the field, as well as berating him over his appearance, allegedly saying he had a "face like a bushpig".

 

[shane]

All of these incidents of violence involving Australians have one thing in common: David Warner. The man is a neanderthal and ought to be locked away until he learns to behave in civil society.

 

[OoparCut]

Its the usual show of Aussies liking to dish it out, but unable to take it when it comes back at them. Nothing new.

What happened to the great Australian tradition of "what happens on the field, stays on the field"? And let's have a friendly beer? Not so easy when you are on the receiving end is it?

 

[Hasan123]

Unnecessary from Warner but De Kock must have done something for him to get that riled up. Neither is an innocent party here.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Warner is no saint and neither are Australia. Australia sledged Bairstow and brought his dead father into the mix. So even if the rumours are true, then it's a classic case of Australia not liking the taste of their own medicine.

 

[Indiafan]

Unnecessary from Warner but De Kock must have done something for him to get that riled up. Neither is an innocent party here.

Nah, Aussies always like to give but cannot take it back. It's that simple

 

[hadi123]

Australian win marred by stairwell fight between Warner and De Kock

Durban: A fiery first Test ended in dispute on Monday over where responsibility lay for a heated stairwell confrontation between David Warner and Quinton de Kock, with Steve Smith standing by his vice-captain after he reacted angrily to a sledge about his wife, Candice.

Australia won the first Test by 118 runs on Monday but it was overshadowed by the leaking of CCTV footage at the ground that showed Warner having to be physically restrained by teammates as he clashed with de Kock at the tea break on the fourth day at Kingsmead.

Smith said he could "absolutely" understand the reaction of Warner. "Those things aren't on and you can't be getting into somebody's personal life like that," the Australian captain said.

"As far as I'm aware, we didn't get personal towards Quinton. What he said got a little bit personal towards Davey – and as we saw it certainly provoked an emotional response."

The South African camp, however, suggested that Warner had also directed personal abuse towards de Kock about his mother and sister on the field, as well as berating him over his appearance, allegedly saying he had a "face like a bushpig".

South Africa's team manager, Mohammed Moosajee, said Warner had "definitely" got personal.

Warner's wife and his two young children are on tour with him in South Africa.

The incident was discussed between the two team managers after play on Sunday night with match referee Jeff Crowe, who was on Monday still deciding whether to take action against players.

The South Africans did not deny that de Kock had made personal barbs towards Warner.

“I think from both parties, from what I’ve heard, there was a lot of personal stuff being said," said South Africa's captain Faf du Plessis, who had also exchanged words with Warner after hearing the commotion outside the dressing room and emerging in a towel.

"That’s obviously what made it go off the field. If you ... that’s us included ... if you want to go personal then it needs to stay on the field.

"Who started it I don't know. If it was happening on the field it probably should have been nipped in the bud on the field already. The fact that it spilled over off the field, that shouldn't have happened."

Smith had dragged Warner away after teammate Usman Khawaja had held the vice-captain back from de Kock at the top of the staircase.

He admitted things had gone too far.

"I think it's just about playing within the spirit of the game," Smith said. "We're men playing a competitive sport and at times emotions get the better of players - that's part of playing competitive sport and being in the grind.

"But at times we need to pull things back and ensure we are playing within the spirit of the game.

"What was said and done during that interval was regrettable on both sides. Obviously Quinton got quite personal and provoked an emotional response from Davey. I think those things are not on from both sides. Getting personal on the field is not on, that's crossing the line in my opinion."

The blow-up with de Kock came during a tense fourth day of the match in which Warner had delivered an emotion-charged spray towards South African's Aiden Markram when the opener played a part in the run out of a diving AB de Villiers without scoring.

Nathan Lyon was on Monday hit with a level-one charge over his part in the celebration after apologising for dropping the ball near de Villiers on the ground.

Former South Africa captain Graeme Smith, who is commentating in the series, agreed with his compatriots that Warner was not without blame for the later blow-up.

"Warner crossed many personal boundaries with the South Africans, so we can’t be surprised when there is eventually a reaction," Smith tweeted. "If players are happy to give it, they have to be prepared to take it too."

Australian great Adam Gilchrist said the opener could thank his teammates for not letting the incident get further out of hand.

"If they were not there and he goes on the path that he was intending, who knows what would have happened," he said.

"Watching that, once the emotion and the aggression is taken away from it, David has to be a little bit disappointed that he's done that and allowed this whole discussion to start up.”

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...tween-warner-and-de-kock-20180305-p4z2xq.html

 

[Savage]

Nah, Aussies always like to give but cannot take it back. It's that simple

Yup I Agree.

 

[Savak]

Not sure why this is a big deal. Stuff like this is what makes the game exciting. Nothing wrong with these confrontations as long as no one throws a punch.

 

[HuzaifaE]

Give it? Take it. No sympathies for Warner. Keep it on the field and be professional. I don't mind words out in the middle so I'm not going to say these things should be regulated etc.

 

[honeybadger]

As Greg Baum wrote, nastiness is a nasty business. If you choose to deal in it, you cannot expect to set the rules about what is acceptably nasty and what is not. And you cannot be surprised when it all spins out of control.

 

[Hitman]

As Greg Baum wrote, nastiness is a nasty business. If you choose to deal in it, you cannot expect to set the rules about what is acceptably nasty and what is not. And you cannot be surprised when it all spins out of control.

Can't even express myself on how accurate that assumption is.

 

[karthikc]

Err watch Aussies vs India last series when Aussies toured India. The sledging was next level and way too personal when players made fun of kohli’s Injury.. Not everything is about money Aussies are very competitive and sledging is part of their routine.. Stop spreading lies here..

Personally I feel sledging is fun and as long as no one gets physical it adds a bit of spice to a game like cricket which desperately needs it, especially test matches.. People here who are having a go against Aussies for sledging actually watch the videos and enjoy themselves but try and act morally superior or “educated”..

We need more characters like kohli, Warner, symonds, McGrath, warnie etc

Making fun and plain abuse are totally different sir. Will Warner do to Kohli what Ponting did to Srinath or Slater did to Dravid

 

[MenInG]

Cape Town - Former Australian spinner Brad Hogg says he expects the Proteas to continue sledging David Warner for the remainder of the Test series.

Australia’s first Test win in Durban was overshadowed by the Day 4 row between Warner and South African wicketkeeper-batsman Quinton de Kock.

CCTV footage showed Warner apparently turning on De Kock as the players walked up a narrow staircase leading to the dressing rooms at the start of the tea interval at Kingsmead on Sunday.

It is believed that De Kock made a derogatory comment about Warner’s wife Candice.

In an interview with Fox Sports, Hogg said he expected Candice’s name to come up regularly for the remainder of the series.

“As far as I’m concerned you don’t say anything about someone’s family, it’s all about one-on-one, about that particular person or how they’re playing in the middle,” Hogg said.

“To be frank, South Africa have found a little sweet spot with David Warner. I think they’ll be trying to nag him in the next three Test matches about his wife now, or they’ll try and say something concerning Candice in the next three Test matches which is slightly getting under David Warner’s skin. They’ve opened up a can of worms here.”

While the Australians are adamant that De Kock started the altercation, reports indicate that the visitors also got personal with their remarks.

Afrikaans website Netwerk24 said De Kock was labelled as a "bush pig" by the Australians, while The Guardian in England reported that it was Warner who called De Kock a “bush pig”.

Netwerk24 further reported that De Kock hit back after the Australians also made remarks about his mother and sister.

https://m.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Proteas/proteas-will-nag-warner-over-wife-hogg-20180306

 

[Adijazz1706]

The old Windies team didn't need to aledge much, they were that good. These guys are embarrassed inAsia time and again and still have stupid things to say all the time h

 

[wrongun]

The old Windies team didn't need to aledge much, they were that good. These guys are embarrassed inAsia time and again and still have stupid things to say all the time h

That's a bit of a myth the old West Indians spout. Ask any Aussie player from the era and they say the WI used to dish out verbals, intimidation, even racially based comments. Boon has a story about on his debut Malcolm Marshall says to him,
"Now if you don't edge one and get out, I'm going to come in from around the wicket and kill you boy!"

The stories are pretty consistent from those era Aussie players that WI let you know they were on top, what they thought of you and what they could do to you physically with the ball. Certainly not quiet little church mice.

 

[wrongun]

Patrick Patterson once burst his way through the Aussie dressing room door and threatened to kill the whole Aussie team after someone bounced him! How's that for off the field!

He roared in and took a 5 or 6-fer next day too

 

[Adijazz1706]

That's a bit of a myth the old West Indians spout. Ask any Aussie player from the era and they say the WI used to dish out verbals, intimidation, even racially based comments. Boon has a story about on his debut Malcolm Marshall says to him,
"Now if you don't edge one and get out, I'm going to come in from around the wicket and kill you boy!"

The stories are pretty consistent from those era Aussie players that WI let you know they were on top, what they thought of you and what they could do to you physically with the ball. Certainly not quiet little church mice.

That's pretty standard, I'm talking about the personal attacks and family insults being thrown around by the Aussies. The Windies got a lot of racial abuse in Aus, even in 75 when they lost. Not sure I've heard of them dishing it out tho

 

[soso_killer]

Warner the instigator as usual. I've seen our players get demerit points for such incidents. Don't expect any consistency from the ICC. Get on with it then.

 

[hadi123]

Australia vice-captain David Warner faces possible suspension from the second Test in Port Elizabeth after he was charged for his involvement in a stairwell altercation with Proteas gloveman Quinton de Kock at tea on day four of the first Test in Durban.

Warner was judged to have breached Level 2 of the ICC Code of Conduct for bringing the game into disrepute, while de Kock was charged with a Level 1 offence for the same breach.

A Level 2 charge brings with it 3-4 demerit points and up to 100 per cent fine of a player’s match fee.

If a player accrues four demerit points in the space of 24 four months they are suspended for one Test match or two limited-overs internationals, whichever comes first.

Both Australia and South Africa have until tomorrow to respond to the charges handed out by match referee Jeff Crowe.

CCTV footage emerged on Sunday night showing Warner and de Kock trading verbal barbs in the stairwell outside the players’ dressing rooms as both teams made their way from the field for the tea break.

Warner had to be physically restrained by his teammates after it was alleged de Kock made derogatory comments about the Australian’s wife.

But in the wake of the incident, the Proteas camp declared both sides got personal on the field, a claim Australia captain Steve Smith denied after his side wrapped up a 118-run win at Kingsmead yesterday.

"We were certainly very chirpy out on the field as well,” Smith told reporters on Monday.

“As far as I'm aware we didn't get personal towards Quinton.

"But look – what he said got a little bit personal towards Davey – and as we saw it certainly provoked an emotional response.

"That's from my opinion – and what I've heard from the guys as well.

"I'm not 100 per cent sure but as far as I'm aware I don't think we got personal."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dav...rwell-incident-durban-cctv-footage/2018-03-07

 

[Dingolfy]

Making fun and plain abuse are totally different sir. Will Warner do to Kohli what Ponting did to Srinath or Slater did to Dravid

LOL.Go and lip read what went between Afridi-Gambhir,Ishant-Akmal and even Bhajji-Akthar.Those were plain old punjabi gaaliyan.But both the teams were man enough to take back also.

 

[Dingolfy]

Patrick Patterson once burst his way through the Aussie dressing room door and threatened to kill the whole Aussie team after someone bounced him! How's that for off the field!

He roared in and took a 5 or 6-fer next day too

.It was not because they bounced him but because of the nasty sledges during those bouncer barrages.

 

[James]

You don’t bring a guy’s wife, mother, child etc into it ever, if he did so then you should expect a reaction, that’s bad etiquette and below the belt.

 

[Slog]

It is funny how this arrogant sob Warner has not gut guts to do this to for example Kohli... They play like kittens against Indians.. even South Africans..these teams normally are masters of sledging..but against Indian team they forget this element of agression etc... Why so???? Nothing against the Indian team.. I believe Kohli is the best batsmen in world hands down..but looking at how Kohli behaves most the time, it baffles me that nobody gives it back to him.. normally u wud expect aussies or saffers to compete with him on sledging front

lol which world do they live in

they got inside Kohli's head and made him bat like a tailender all series IN India.

Heck he got so rattled that he was doing a whinge session about 'friendships being over'

 

[CricCrazyNick]

Warner is now one demerit point away from a ban.
David Warner has been hit with three demerit points and fined 75 per cent of his match fee after deciding not to contest the Level Two charges that came from his altercation with Quinton de Kock.
CCTV footage from a stairwell leading up to the dressing rooms showed Warner continuing to verbally abuse de Kock as South Africa and Australia broke for tea on the fourth day of the first Test in Durban.
Australia maintain that Warner was provoked by personal comments that de Kock made about his wife, but the opening batsman has accepted the charges of bringing the game into disrepute and is now one demerit point away from a ban.
South Africa, meanwhile, have sought clarity over the nature of the Level One charge thrown at de Kock for his part in the incident. Because Level One relates to breaking the spirit of the game, it encompasses a broad range of charges.
Once the ICC have provided clarity, South Africa will provide their response to the charge. Early indications are that they could contest it, in which case a hearing would take place later on Wednesday

 

[IndianFan2018]

lol which world do they live in

they got inside Kohli's head and made him bat like a tailender all series IN India.

Heck he got so rattled that he was doing a whinge session about 'friendships being over'

Kohli had off series vs AUS at home..

Did u saw how 2 smashed AUS in down under ?

And he recently annihilated SA on home turf (only century from both sides by king Kohli )!

You expect batsamns to have purple patch in every series ...pretty high expectations brother

 

[IndianFan2018]

lol which world do they live in

they got inside Kohli's head and made him bat like a tailender all series IN India.

Heck he got so rattled that he was doing a whinge session about 'friendships being over'

Scoring in India by Kohli will be seen as home track bullying as per PPers anyway, but why different opinion in this situation .. to suit the narrative ! Oh got it