[VIDEOS] Rising toxicity of cricket fans threatening the spirit of the game

[FearlessRoar]

It's troubling to see a rise in toxic behavior among cricket fans, especially among those who strongly support particular players. Recent incidents in leagues like the PSL and IPL have highlighted this concerning trend. For example, fans of Babar Azam targeted Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir during PSL 2024, while supporters of Rohit Sharma booed Hardik Pandya in the IPL 2024 season, and there were even some fights between fans in the stands.

This harmful culture not only damages cricket's reputation but also creates a hostile environment for players. Cricket has always been known for its sportsmanship and teamwork, but toxic fandom undermines these values.

Moreover, toxic fandom divides cricket fans and spreads negativity instead of the mutual respect and admiration the sport deserves. It's important for fans to understand the harm caused by such behavior and strive to create a culture of inclusivity, respect, and positivity within the cricketing community.

What do you think? Is this cult following becoming toxic and damaging the reputation of the game?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Polls added

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't think it damages the reputation of the game but it certainly damages the viewing experience.

I'd hate for cricket to become like Football where rival fans are clashing and you sometimes get a bit nervous taking kids to games.

Targeting players is part of the game but it can also cross the line...it's very difficult to police what is acceptable banter.

Sadly with the way the Israeli backed anti Rizwan brigade behave then it's likely that the toxicity is going to continue.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Seems to be a distinct staple of the sub-continent. I agree it gets too much sometimes. Ruins the experience of being a cricket fan for you.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

The fans should support Pakistan team.

Sadly, we have Babar and Rizwan fans who get everything up in a twist the moment someone says they are not that great.

It seems we have fans who dont care about Pakistan but support Babar and Rizwan.

That is toxicity, right up there.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rohit fans vs Kohli fans vs Dhoni fans it is a cesspool. Then there is CSK vs RCB vs MI.
Ruturaj fans vs Gill fans
Givn the passion with which they support their franchise his will only get worse than improve. Even though India doesn't participate in soccer, there was a huge fight in kerala between Neymar fans and Messi fans and few got injured.

 

[topspin]

It's troubling to see a rise in toxic behavior among cricket fans, especially among those who strongly support particular players. Recent incidents in leagues like the PSL and IPL have highlighted this concerning trend. For example, fans of Babar Azam targeted Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir during PSL 2024, while supporters of Rohit Sharma booed Hardik Pandya in the IPL 2024 season, and there were even some fights between fans in the stands.

This harmful culture not only damages cricket's reputation but also creates a hostile environment for players. Cricket has always been known for its sportsmanship and teamwork, but toxic fandom undermines these values.

Moreover, toxic fandom divides cricket fans and spreads negativity instead of the mutual respect and admiration the sport deserves. It's important for fans to understand the harm caused by such behavior and strive to create a culture of inclusivity, respect, and positivity within the cricketing community.

What do you think? Is this cult following becoming toxic and damaging the reputation of the game?

It's definitely becoming toxic and is certainly damaging the reputation of the sport, particularly in desi countries.

A case in point is the Babar Azam fan club, who not only have targeted Imad and Wasim Akram, but they've also gone as far as making death threats towards Simon Doull. This commentator also an unsavoury message that he had received from a Babar fan. The language is so explicit, I can't even share it on here but he threatened to rape his sister and mother. Imagine what does this to the reputation of Pakistan fans?!

It's not just an issue among the toxic trolls on Social media, we also had a Babar fan on here not so long ago, who demanded for Simon Doull to be cancelled.

I'm glad this thread was made because this issue is certainly becoming more and more problematic to say the least.

 

[FearlessRoar]

To be honest, I was not happy when fans of Babar Azam were treating Imad Wasim like he is some kind of villain. At the end of the day, they both are serving Pakistan. Every player has his own ability and opinion. And yes, being a fan, we can criticize them for their performance, but criticism should be constructive criticism. But now fans are becoming so toxic that they tease cricketers and get personal.

Same is happening with Hardik in IPL. Criticize him, but at least don't be toxic and tease the player. As I heard somewhere on social media, fans were calling him "chabri."

 

[U$ofA]

Rohit fans vs Kohli fans vs Dhoni fans it is a cesspool. Then there is CSK vs RCB vs MI.
Ruturaj fans vs Gill fans
Givn the passion with which they support their franchise his will only get worse than improve. Even though India doesn't participate in soccer, there was a huge fight in kerala between Neymar fans and Messi fans and few got injured.

From what I have read and heard, the CSK v RCB and CSK v MI is highly toxic. A whole lot of levels higher than even the Ind v Pak "fights".

But that is how fans are now. Passion of their team on their hearts. As I say, the shift of the Indian fans has happened. Away from Intl. cricket and towards their local IPL teams. With IPL expansion, more fans will join this club.

I am sure the case could be similar with PSL. As it gets a better foothold, the fans will go the IPL fans way.

 

[Rana]

I think we have to accept that there is no such thing anymore as the Pakistan fan who supports the team unconditionally. It doesn’t exist. That used to be me once upon a time.

My views changed. I was wasting my time supporting players who were playing for the country, only to see how all of it meant nothing once Misbah came in 2019 and brought in a set of players, and the fans of this regime did everything to malign the players removed.

I don’t regret this toxic change within me. I am filled with hate now, hate for those who played for their agency and not Pakistan.

 

[U$ofA]

To be honest, I was not happy when fans of Babar Azam were treating Imad Wasim like he is some kind of villain. At the end of the day, they both are serving Pakistan. Every player has his own ability and opinion. And yes, being a fan, we can criticize them for their performance, but criticism should be constructive criticism. But now fans are becoming so toxic that they tease cricketers and get personal.

Same is happening with Hardik in IPL. Criticize him, but at least don't be toxic and tease the player. As I heard somewhere on social media, fans were calling him "chabri."

Right or wrong, the biggest takeaway for me is the shift/shifting of fans toward IPL and PSL in Ind and Pak.

The day may not be far where there are more PSL fans/following than Pak Intl. I think it has already happened in Ind and IPL.

 

[Rana]

Misbah, Waqar, Ramiz, Muhammad Wasim,

Worst ever group of people to be appointed to serve Pakistan cricket. They are all divisive

 

[jnaveen1980]

From what I have read and heard, the CSK v RCB and CSK v MI is highly toxic. A whole lot of levels higher than even the Ind v Pak "fights".

But that is how fans are now. Passion of their team on their hearts. As I say, the shift of the Indian fans has happened. Away from Intl. cricket and towards their local IPL teams. With IPL expansion, more fans will join this club.

I am sure the case could be similar with PSL. As it gets a better foothold, the fans will go the IPL fans way.

RCB vs CSK have different political angle as well. RIver issue. Also there is a video of RCB fans bullying one of the mascot fan of CSK. As long as these three part of IPL this fight will continue. It will subside once they leave the IPL for a while.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Gone are the days when fans get united behind India. I still remember how Preity zinta waving INdian flag after India win although she was not happy with performances of some of the Indians from opposition during IPL. Nowadays some even pray for India's loss just to troll the captain. Fans are not the only one to blame. Cricketers preferring their franchise players for national colors was obvious. Guys like SKY should have never played a Test or ODI. But him being Mumbai INdian was a big advantage for him

 

[Rana]

I would like to use this thread to throw some Chittars at the names of the following people:

A big Chittar at Misbah ul Haq who always thought he was too good for everyone else and caused division!

A big Chittar at Waqar Younis who thought he is a superstar and was always meddling with the careers of players!

A big Chittar at Muhammad Waseem who had no real control as chief selector and was a puppet of his chairman!

A big Chittar at Ramiz Raja, the greatest buffoon chairman who gave unchallenged power to Saya Corporation agents to ruin Pakistan cricket!

A big chittar to Babar and Rizwan fans!

Khushdil and Iftikhar Dosti Yaari quota…a big Chittar at you too!

 

[topspin]

I would like to use this thread to throw some Chittars at the names of the following people:

A big Chittar at Misbah ul Haq who always thought he was too good for everyone else and caused division!

A big Chittar at Waqar Younis who thought he is a superstar and was always meddling with the careers of players!

A big Chittar at Muhammad Waseem who had no real control as chief selector and was a puppet of his chairman!

A big Chittar at Ramiz Raja, the greatest buffoon chairman who gave unchallenged power to Saya Corporation agents to ruin Pakistan cricket!

A big chittar to Babar and Rizwan fans!

Khushdil and Iftikhar Dosti Yaari quota…a big Chittar at you too!

A big chittar to all of them for the part they played in ruining Pakistan cricket. I had high hopes in RR when he got rid of Misbah but the lost soul thought he would give Babar Azam the same powers that Imran Khan was given during his playing days . So stupid.

 

[topspin]

I find it hilarious that one of the posters who voted yes in this poll is the same guy who called for Simon Doull to be cancelled.

 

[Major]

There is a difference between the fans of 2010 and than fans of 2020.

Back in 2010 the fanship was geniune. There was the Afridi Fans, Yousuf Fans, Misbah Fans and the Akhtar Fans. The biggest rivalry was the Misbah fans vs Afridi fans. Both groups having a go at each other day in and day out. Those were the days.

Now adays, these fan brigades are not really geniune. Like the Imad fans not genuine Imad fans, this fan group is made up of people that dislike Rizwan and Babar, thus, anyone person that will critisize them both, this particular group will support that person. If a dog was to bark at Babar and Rizwan, they will become fans of that dog aswell. That is not fanship.

Fanship was waking up early in the morning just to watch your favorite player play. Fanship was making sure to watch every game your favorite was going to play and as soon as your favorite guy got out or stopped bowling his spell, you get busy with your day. You would wait for that player to get out so your favorite can come up out to bat. Whether you were a Tendulkar fan, Afridi or Misbah fan, all of them loved there player and waited hours for them to show up.

If you dont even follow every game of your favorite player, plz that is not fanship..

 

[Rana]

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A big chittar to all of them for the part they played in ruining Pakistan cricket. I had high hopes in RR when he got rid of Misbah but the lost soul thought he would give Babar Azam the same powers that Imran Khan was given during his playing days . So stupid.

Ramiz deserves all the humiliation he gets now.

He became so arrogant. He said in an interview as chairman that everyone in the 92 squad has gone on to do big things and Aqib is still there as a nobody (when he was LQ coach).

Look at how God teaches people a lesson. The same Ramiz was doing the PSL presentation with Mohsin Naqvi as the chairman handing out the medals and trophy. Ramiz, just an announcer, a nobody really in front of the chairman!

 

[topspin]

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Ramiz deserves all the humiliation he gets now.

He became so arrogant. He said in an interview as chairman that everyone in the 92 squad has gone on to do big things and Aqib is still there as a nobody (when he was LQ coach).

Look at how God teaches people a lesson. The same Ramiz was doing the PSL presentation with Mohsin Naqvi as the chairman handing out the medals and trophy. Ramiz, just an announcer, a nobody really in front of the chairman!

Pakistan channels need to move on from him as well. The guy is a washed up commie.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan channels need to move on from him as well. The guy is a washed up commie.

He is a propaganda mouthpiece

Him, Urooj, Bazid and Sana Mir. They all make me sick with their dishonesty

Ramiz is ok when there are big hits and he has to do his oowwww like Shakti Kapoor, but that’s about it

 

[jnaveen1980]

He is a propaganda mouthpiece

Him, Urooj, Bazid and Sana Mir. They all make me sick with their dishonesty

Ramiz is ok when there are big hits and he has to do his oowwww like Shakti Kapoor, but that’s about it

Fab 5 - Urooj lol

 

[Rana]

Fab 5 - Urooj lol

They are the ministers of deceit. Listening to them makes me feel sick. It’s like I’m not watching Babar Azam play at 110 strike rate on a road in a T20 against Hunain Shah and Aimal Khan, rather I am watching Brian Lara deal with Glen McGrath, Jason Gillespie and Shane Warne on a landmine pitch in the 9
1990s

 

[topspin]

He is a propaganda mouthpiece

Him, Urooj, Bazid and Sana Mir. They all make me sick with their dishonesty

Ramiz is ok when there are big hits and he has to do his oowwww like Shakti Kapoor, but that’s about it

Do you think Shan Masood would be a good commentator?

 

[Rana]

Brilliant thread

I can vent out all the hate that is filled inside of me! The toxic fans post 2019 created this monster inside of me!!

 

[topspin]

Brilliant thread

I can vent out all the hate that is filled inside of me! The toxic fans post 2019 created this monster inside of me!!

"I can say what I want to say, ain't nothin to it, gangster rap made me do it"

Ice Cube

 

[Rana]

Do you think Shan Masood would be a good commentator?

He’s boring Bro. Nice English, just a boring guy. He will give good insights here and there, but just a boring guy.

Shoaib Akhtar has really flimsy English but he knows how to entertain, he will chat a lot of nonsense too.

Pakistan doesn’t have anyone who will say the right kind of things from a technical pov but also entertain at the same time.

Believe it or not, Pak’s best commentator is Waqar Younis, and he’s a s guy from inside as we know.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Brilliant thread

I can vent out all the hate that is filled inside of me! The toxic fans post 2019 created this monster inside of me!!

We may had to make a film for that monster of yours

 

[Rana]

We may had to make a film for that monster of yours

Pakistani cricket fan fight club

 

[Rana]

lEtS bOyCoTt PaKiStAn BeCaUsE iMaD aNd AmIr ArE bAcK




Yeah how about we sell our entire cricket board to Saya Corporation so Babar can do whatever the hell he wants with our cricket????!!!!

 

[Rana]

There is a difference between the fans of 2010 and than fans of 2020.

Back in 2010 the fanship was geniune. There was the Afridi Fans, Yousuf Fans, Misbah Fans and the Akhtar Fans. The biggest rivalry was the Misbah fans vs Afridi fans. Both groups having a go at each other day in and day out. Those were the days.

Now adays, these fan brigades are not really geniune. Like the Imad fans not genuine Imad fans, this fan group is made up of people that dislike Rizwan and Babar, thus, anyone person that will critisize them both, this particular group will support that person. If a dog was to bark at Babar and Rizwan, they will become fans of that dog aswell. That is not fanship.

Fanship was waking up early in the morning just to watch your favorite player play. Fanship was making sure to watch every game your favorite was going to play and as soon as your favorite guy got out or stopped bowling his spell, you get busy with your day. You would wait for that player to get out so your favorite can come up out to bat. Whether you were a Tendulkar fan, Afridi or Misbah fan, all of them loved there player and waited hours for them to show up.

If you dont even follow every game of your favorite player, plz that is not fanship..

Yeah The last thing we need is a someone who only sees our cricket from Misbah’s lens telling us what’s right and wrong about our fans.

 

[topspin]

There is a difference between the fans of 2010 and than fans of 2020.

Back in 2010 the fanship was geniune. There was the Afridi Fans, Yousuf Fans, Misbah Fans and the Akhtar Fans. The biggest rivalry was the Misbah fans vs Afridi fans. Both groups having a go at each other day in and day out. Those were the days.

Now adays, these fan brigades are not really geniune. Like the Imad fans not genuine Imad fans, this fan group is made up of people that dislike Rizwan and Babar, thus, anyone person that will critisize them both, this particular group will support that person. If a dog was to bark at Babar and Rizwan, they will become fans of that dog aswell. That is not fanship.

Fanship was waking up early in the morning just to watch your favorite player play. Fanship was making sure to watch every game your favorite was going to play and as soon as your favorite guy got out or stopped bowling his spell, you get busy with your day. You would wait for that player to get out so your favorite can come up out to bat. Whether you were a Tendulkar fan, Afridi or Misbah fan, all of them loved there player and waited hours for them to show up.

If you dont even follow every game of your favorite player, plz that is not fanship..

Very rich coming from someone who wanted Simon Doull to be cancelled.

 

[ahmadharis1]

There's definitely a lot of toxicity between fans. I like certain players but am a Pakistan fan most of all.

I'm almost scared to say I'm a fan of Imad Wasim, because saying that sometimes feels like I'm also saying "babar azam is a selfish player and the worst batsman ever", when in fact I love Babar Azam too and do not agree with that side at all. I don't wanted to be grouped with whoever honestly thinks that.

And believe me if Imad Wasim ever stops performing then I will call for his exclusion from the team.

 

[Rana]

There's definitely a lot of toxicity between fans. I like certain players but am a Pakistan fan most of all.

I'm almost scared to say I'm a fan of Imad Wasim, because saying that sometimes feels like I'm also saying "babar azam is a selfish player and the worst batsman ever", when in fact I love Babar Azam too and do not agree with that side at all. I don't wanted to be grouped with whoever honestly thinks that.

And believe me if Imad Wasim ever stops performing then I will call for his exclusion from the team.

That’s the way it should be…

But it can’t now. It’s too late. The Babar cult has destroyed too much. There is no turning back from this now.

 

[kingusama92]

This is nothing compared to the 80-90s. That stuff was wild.

This is baby stuff compared to what happened back then.

 

[PakEngFan]

In Pakistan it seems to be hate your best players and love the fixers who have sold their country.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

These same players also generate hate when they come to the media and speak negatively about other players which offends some fans and makes them react. This blame game culture needs to be stopped to neutralize this toxicity.

 

[Rana]

In Pakistan it seems to be hate your best players and love the fixers who have sold their country.

No in Pakistan we seem to love crap players and hate the REAL OGs

 

[topspin]

In Pakistan it seems to be hate your best players and love the fixers who have sold their country.

Yeah like Nawaz right?

 

[PakEngFan]

Yeah like Nawaz right?

When did I say nawaz is our best player?

 

[PakEngFan]

No in Pakistan we seem to love crap players and hate the REAL OGs

In your case that is true. You have an obsession for rubbish players and the list is endless and hate players who do well.

 

[ahmadharis1]

That’s the way it should be…

But it can’t now. It’s too late. The Babar cult has destroyed too much. There is no turning back from this now.

My man you can't acknowledge the issue and then use the words "the babar cult" at the same time. That just worsens the whole issue

 

[Caved12]

We created a monster here and now posters are following into his footsteps to get back to him which is a wrong way of discussing cricket.

 

[topspin]

In your case that is true. You have an obsession for rubbish players and the list is endless and hate players who do well.

Rana was the first poster to debunk the merits of the Babar/Rizwan opening combination.

Everyone here, including yourself, now accepts that they should no longer bat together as openers.

All I’m trying to say is you can learn a lot from him.

 

[PakEngFan]

Rana was the first poster to debunk the merits of the Babar/Rizwan opening combination.

Everyone here, including yourself, now accepts that they should no longer bat together as openers.

All I’m trying to say is you can learn a lot from him.

The reason why I say he should bat lower is because of Saim ayub as rizwan he's not been great off late. Even in the NZ series rizwan comfortably outplayed Saim but he should get games as he's potential. I have no problem both Babar and rizwan batting lower provided we give the right players a shot not players with no potential.

People doesn't even want Saim, they want sharjeel lol. If Saim doesn't work out it should be them 2 again as clearly there are no other options at the moment maybe bar Mohammed haris.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rana was the first poster to debunk the merits of the Babar/Rizwan opening combination.

Everyone here, including yourself, now accepts that they should no longer bat together as openers.

All I’m trying to say is you can learn a lot from him.

He doesn't accept it bro,

A person who accepts it doesn't respond with " OH yeah who would you replace babar and rizwan with?"

He's waiting for babar and rizwan to Slap MZ c string and bully USA, Canada and Ireland.

When India gives us a reality check, he'll either cite these performances or if the heat increases he'll go back to his excuse of "Oh well I don't support them opening"

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Unfortunately when outside forces steal our team and hand it over to mediocre individuals like Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan and Misbah Ul Haq, than true fans must do what it takes to fight and try to bring back some semblance of hope. So no is disagree with the threads title. "Toxic" cricket fans are sometimes required in order to fight the propaganda of outside forces that want to dismantle our once great team in order to for-fill their selfish interests

 

[daytrader]

The guys getting booed have common denominators such as they are selfish and arrogant on top of that very boorish. Pandya, Amir, they're not very likeable guys. How dare they talk smack about better cricketers than them. Surprised these folks have fans in the first place

 

[Rana]

The guys getting booed have common denominators such as they are selfish and arrogant on top of that very boorish. Pandya, Amir, they're not very likeable guys. How dare they talk smack about better cricketers than them. Surprised these folks have fans in the first place

Right, so Rizwan who is wholesome is allowed to talk smack about better cricketers because he has a lovely smile with his white lipstick?

 

[daytrader]

Right, so Rizwan who is wholesome is allowed to talk smack about better cricketers because he has a lovely smile with his white lipstick?

What did he say, I might have missed

 

[Rana]

What did he say, I might have missed

I’m asking you, he can say things about players because he is likeable?

Amir has earned his right to talk smack about anyone. He has removed two King Pins in two ICC finals (Dilshan and Kohli) to win the trophy for his country

 

[Technics 1210]

Only the Indian fans. There is ample proof of this online.

Though to be fair after the WC Final humbling, the Indian fan toxicity has some what ebbed.

 

[topspin]

The guys getting booed have common denominators such as they are selfish and arrogant on top of that very boorish. Pandya, Amir, they're not very likeable guys. How dare they talk smack about better cricketers than them. Surprised these folks have fans in the first place

No one cares about how likeable someone is if they can get the job done. Do you think people like Amir for his spot fixing rather than his bowling skills which won Pakistan 2 x ICC tournaments?

You see this is exactly what I mean when I say Misbah has turned Pakistan cricket so soft and delicate. There are snowflakes everywhere and cakes are being cut for every non-event.

 

[Rana]

No one cares about how likeable someone is if they can get the job done. Do you think people like Amir for his spot fixing rather than his bowling skills which won Pakistan 2 x ICC tournaments?

You see this is exactly what I mean when I say Misbah has turned Pakistan cricket so soft and delicate. There are snowflakes everywhere and cakes are being cut for every non-event.

Exactly

It’s not a charity cricket team participating in a charity competition

They are professional cricketers competing hard. Why should they have to behave in the same way?

 

[topspin]

Exactly

It’s not a charity cricket team participating in a charity competition

They are professional cricketers competing hard. Why should they have to behave in the same way?

Because they don’t want the cake cutting tradition to die away ever during their lifetime.

 

[Rana]

He's waiting for babar and rizwan to Slap MZ c string and bully USA, Canada and Ireland.

This. He can’t wait for these matches to arrive

 

[Arzy8]

I think the IPL rivalries have some level of merit due to how large the league is and how large the individual franchises and players are.

The PSL ones seem forced and not genuine, for the most part.

 

[Rana]

I think the IPL rivalries have some level of merit due to how large the league is and how large the individual franchises and players are.

The PSL ones seem forced and not genuine, for the most part.

The Babar v Imad and Amir rivalry is legit

It’s a highly toxic rivalry for the past 2-3 years

 

[daytrader]

No one cares about how likeable someone is if they can get the job done. Do you think people like Amir for his spot fixing rather than his bowling skills which won Pakistan 2 x ICC tournaments?

You see this is exactly what I mean when I say Misbah has turned Pakistan cricket so soft and delicate. There are snowflakes everywhere and cakes are being cut for every non-event.

Clearly the guys booing Amir are no snowflakes. This is the new Pakistani fan bro, our nation is maturing and they can recognize right from wrong. Anyone that goes against the nation will have no place to hide

 

[daytrader]

Because they don’t want the cake cutting tradition to die away ever during their lifetime.

Did you forget about the Amir cake, I think it was Tiramisu

 

[daytrader]

I’m asking you, he can say things about players because he is likeable?

Amir has earned his right to talk smack about anyone. He has removed two King Pins in two ICC finals (Dilshan and Kohli) to win the trophy for his country

Reach this level first before you start to disrespect his opinion.

No he can't and he won't cause that's his class. Not as an active player. Just read Usman Khan’s interview and how he commended Rizwan's leadership

 

[mominsaigol]

No one cares about how likeable someone is if they can get the job done. Do you think people like Amir for his spot fixing rather than his bowling skills which won Pakistan 2 x ICC tournaments?

You see this is exactly what I mean when I say Misbah has turned Pakistan cricket so soft and delicate. There are snowflakes everywhere and cakes are being cut for every non-event.

You know I can debunk the whole Misbah was Pakistan's best captain but was unlucky to have a nothing team whereas sarfraz was lucky to have a team of Psl all stars.

First of 2007-2011: We flunked one tournament but won 2009, and came as semi finalist in 2010, and in 2011 as well as finalist in 2007 meaning Pakistan before misbah's era was atleast a competent team to reach semi or finals on most occasions.

Then from 2012 to 2015, not only have we failed to win Any icc trophy, only time we have reached a semi final was under hafeez's leadership in t20 not misbah. And no asia cup doesn't count, as for beating India, they were in a transition phase and didn't care, India proceeded to humiliate Pakistan team Black and blue from 2013 to 2015 with us beating them only once via 1 wicket in 2014.

Now for the whole nothing team:

For 2015 these were our options for world cup.

Openers:-

1) Azhar Ali: Weird that he wasnt opening despite being Misbah's successor and our 2nd best test bat, was far far superior to shehzad and jamshed lol.

2) Sarfraz:- Ik he opened later but on what basis was jamshed opening over the guy who was pur star scorer in the Australian and NZ series, and why even have Umar akmal keep?

3) Sami Aslam:- He literally came onto the scene against Bangladesh and did was better at opening them shehzad and jamshed, yet was dropped after one game and soon as he was, his performance in domestic and international drops.

Just to let you know before his debut where he struck at 90+ when pur joke openers were striking at 70, sami aslam was our best domestic performer for years, consistently topping charts and averaging 50 with a strike rate of 100.

4) Sharjeel: He lost form a bit, but hilarious considering jamshed couldn't even reach double digit scores by 2015, literally we've been historically poor in Australia and Sharjeel had a good record their, much better then shehzad and jamshed as openers.

5) Fakhar: Was in the form of his life in domestics, should have made his debut 2 years earlier.

Middle Order

1) Fawad Alam: I dont like fawad, but he was our top scorer in 2014 per matches( Yes ik shehzad acored more but thats why i said per matches, Fawad played the least matches in 2014 and still achiebd 2nd averaging 42 amd a sr of 80), in asia cup his 77 and 100 scores were crucial despite no 5 not being a hreat positoon for him, dont know why he wasnt frontline over younis.

Before people complain Younis cheated his way in, If misbah was the competent goat captain that people say he is, he would have the Guts to instantly boot YK out or simply not play him, what would YK even do? Retire, like okay bye bye ya medicore odi junkie.

2) Sohaib Malik: On malik's return he hit a century in 2016 and a 236 in test before retiring, and was a decent performer utpill 2017, Afterwards he was a spent force ut his 2015-2016 days would have been perfect, plus hafeez was injured so malik an allrounder replacing him would be good, would also compliment haris sohail who wasn't in the best of form but looked upto malik at the time.

3) Babar Azam: Babar before his 2018 stat pad nonsense actually use to play for the crest on his chest during 2016-2017, literally he was the 2md best performer in domestic only behind sami aslam amd could have been a good performer considering Babar during his early days was pretty good at no 3 and no 4.

We had such a bad batting line up, I'd have taken Babar over umar considering Babar at that time would be 21 and was in good form, he could have been a good investment during that era, its not like the team that misbah choose was remotely competent.

4) Imad waseem: literally was in the form of his life, in 2016 on English soil he was the only batsmen to not get our scoring multiple half centuries during this time, He could have been a good no 6 considering maqsood was such a joke.

Otherwise since misbah is captain he has to play in the middle order, and afridi is fine ig, although I'd move afridi to no 8 with no 9, 10 and 11 being pacers.

Malik, Afridi and Imad spin trio would be fine.

Bowlers

1) Hasan ali: Was in the form of his life during this period, is a has been now but he was available and was on domestic fire.

2) Zafar gohar: Suprised he never got called up, Could have been the specialist spinner we needed over yasir Shah lol considering he's young as well.

3) Rumman raess: Don't know why he was left out for so long amd isn't considered, I don't know what happened to him.

Also honorable mention: Abid Ali before his heart attack could have been a good option, he was waiting for years before mickey and sarfraz decided to try him out.



^^ based of all these options: how on earth can you claim misbah had a nothing team?

No one told Misbah to take Younis, shehzad, Jamshed, rahat Ali, Ehsan adil, Umar akmal, Maqsood etc etc, his fault for not taking the best performers from 2015.

Edit: BTW @topspin After reading this expect replies like sami aslam was horrible or sarfraz is horrible even though this was 2015 when they were in the prime of their lives, people will be shoving 2024 on me lol.

 

[topspin]

Did you forget about the Amir cake, I think it was Tiramisu

If a cake was cut for Amir, let's say after taking a 5fer in a lost game, I would have a problem, with or without Misbah.

 

[daytrader]

If a cake was cut for Amir, let's say after taking a 5fer in a lost game, I would have a problem, with or without Misbah.

I had tagged you in such a post with his cake pic

 

[topspin]

Clearly the guys booing Amir are no snowflakes. This is the new Pakistani fan bro, our nation is maturing and they can recognize right from wrong. Anyone that goes against the nation will have no place to hide

Is Amir still fixing matches though? This has happened 15 years ago, we can't keep holding it against him.

FYI, it was Misbah who went out of his way to fast track Amir's comeback in 2016. The point being if you're going to take the moral high ground, you should also be capable of criticising Misbah for the way he approached this. I would like to see you be consistent.

 

[topspin]

I had tagged you in such a post with his cake pic

Yes, I've seen it myself and he was trolling Pakistan cricket as he's been doing on social media in recent years.

 

[daytrader]

Is Amir still fixing matches though? This has happened 15 years ago, we can't keep holding it against him.

FYI, it was Misbah who went out of his way to fast track Amir's comeback in 2016. The point being if you're going to take the moral high ground, you should also be capable of criticising Misbah for the way he approached this. I would like to see you be consistent.

He was forgiven for it, no doubt and even got mad love from the fans since. I was one of his supporters. However he backstabbed us again by refusing to play tests and since then his toxic personality has come to the forefront. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...not gonna happen a third time

 

[BouncerGuy]

This is the reality of Pakistan cricket. Fans loved amir and wanted him back in the team after his punishment tenure was over and he was immediately brought back into the team but Amir had other plans. He used Pakistan as a ladder to open the doors for him to franchise and league cricket, and then he ditched the Pakistan team saying he was not interested in test cricket and was not involved in domestic as well. He is hyped again by fans but I doubt that there will be any change in his behaviour. Hope he stays sincere to the team this time.

 

[gazza619]

Well fans are humans with emotions and your thread should be about rising toxicity of players, not fans. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

If Babar treats Imad unfairly or Hardik treats Rohit badly or vice versa, then naturally fans would react.

 

[WengerOut]

Microcosm of how the social media world operates in every aspects. Football, cricket, cinema, politics etc you name it. It is all about trolling the other side be it toxic or anything.

 

[SamNJ]

The casteist abuses hurled at Pandya gives a good idea about Indian society.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Fans have always been pretty over the top in sub-continent regions. We can expect toxicity up to some extent from them.

 

[mominsaigol]

Well fans are humans with emotions and your thread should be about rising toxicity of players, not fans. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

If Babar treats Imad unfairly or Hardik treats Rohit badly or vice versa, then naturally fans would react.

To some extent.

Subcontinent fans are clearly toxic compared to SENA fans.

Indian and Pakistani fans are wild and emotional beyond belief.

Although it's mainly because theirs not really any politics in cricket in SENA.

Dosti yaari doesn't really work their, and even if theirs favouritism to a certain extent, theirs always framchise so money and needs are met.

Pakistan and India have political warfare lol 24/7, be it country related issues or sports related.

 

[emranabbas]

I don't want to bring politics into it but I blame Imran khan for projecting this aggressive mindset into our youngsters
how people are behaving now is effecting everything in the country including cricket.

 

[FearlessRoar]

I don't want to bring politics into it but I blame Imran khan for projecting this aggressive mindset into our youngsters
how people are behaving now is effecting everything in the country including cricket.

If I'm not mistaken, the cult fan following actually started with him.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Steven Smith advised MI skipper Hardik Pandya to "block out" the boos from the fans during the ongoing IPL 2024 while speaking on a program in international sports media:

"I'd try and just say, to block it out, it's all irrelevant. No one outside knows what you are going through. No one [from outside] is in that change room."

"Personally, for me, it doesn't bother me. I don't care. I don't pay any attention. You know it's all white noise, but certainly players do hear things and everyone's entitled to their own emotions and how they respond to those. So is it affecting him [Hardik]? Maybe. It's possible. He probably hasn't experienced that before in, in any walk of life. So it's natural, I suppose, and particularly being in India and a star Indian player, to be in that position where some fans are booing you, it's certainly something he wouldn't have experienced.”

 

[FearlessRoar]

Ravi Ashwin said on his YouTube Channel while answering a question from one of the viewers:

"Fan wars should never go this ugly a route. One should remember which country these players represent - our country. So, then what warrants a cricketer getting booed? "I don't understand. If you don't like a player and boo a player, why should a team come out to issue a clarification."

"This is cricket, and there is a prevalent cinema culture. I know there are things like marketing, positioning and branding. I agree with all that. But I don't believe in all this, but it's not wrong to indulge in either."

 

[FearlessRoar]

Elderly Cricket Fan Succumbs To Injuries After Assault By MI Supporters In Kolhapur

A cricket discussion between an elderly Chennai Super Kings (CSK) fan and two Mumbai Indians (MI) supporters turned tragic in Kolhapur, Maharashtra. According to a report by ABP Majha, the altercation occurred when the elderly CSK fan asked about Mumbai Indians' (MI) chances of winning after Rohit Sharma's dismissal in an IPL match against Sunrisers Hyderabad (SRH) on Wednesday (March 27).

The inquiry from the elderly CSK fan seemingly agitated the MI supporters, leading to a violent assault with wooden sticks that inflicted fatal injuries. Sadly, despite being hospitalized, the elderly fan could not overcome the severity of his injuries and passed away.

Elderly Cricket Fan Succumbs To Injuries After Assault By MI Supporters In Kolhapur

Kolhapur's Karveer police have arrested the attackers Balwant Mahadev Jhanjge (age 50) and Sagar Sadashiv Jhanjge (age 35, both residents of Hanmantwadi). B

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[FearlessRoar]

Now matter has come to this point. Very disheartening

 

[FearlessRoar]

Sanjay Manjrekar Schools Crowd As MI Captain Hardik Pandya Comes For Toss vs RR.

Sanjay Manjrekar: "We have the two captains with me. Hardik Pandya - captain of the Mumbai Indians. Big round of applause. Ladies and gentlemen, behave."

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