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[VIDEOS] Saad Nasim - Performance Watch thread

Mir jibran

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Saad nasim debuts and scores a 32 ball 25 runs. I have made this thread to discuss about his performances .
Hope he succeeds at the international level
 
He really bats like a tail-ender I dont know why. I felt Raza Hassan was batting with much more confidence and played much better shots than Saad. This crop of Bowler turn batsman or lets say not a good bowler so lets turn into a batsman crop comes in with really limited shots and possibilities.

Anyways best of luck to him.
 
I have watched him bat in CLT20 also.

He is suited to ODI cricket and with a few games can be a decent lower order batsman.

T20 cricket is not for him.
 
He really bats like a tail-ender I dont know why. I felt Raza Hassan was batting with much more confidence and played much better shots than Saad. This crop of Bowler turn batsman or lets say not a good bowler so lets turn into a batsman crop comes in with really limited shots and possibilities.

Anyways best of luck to him.

Neither appreciate nor encourage.... Only criticize!!!... u should be sending a team full of programmed robots to play for pakistan......
 
Neither appreciate nor encourage.... Only criticize!!!... u should be sending a team full of programmed robots to play for pakistan......

Wished my part of good luck... If I dont like a batsman what should I do . I dont think I wrote anything against his person, just mentioned what I felt about his batting. Also he got out in most idiotic fashion like all others so what to praise him for, may be for being a bit more lucky than the rest.

I didn't liked what I saw yesterday may be he is better, so lets wait and see.
 
he seems to be a good batsman under pressure.. This guy will soon find his place in the ODI lineup and I think he might play the WC 2015, he scores at a decent SR, plays spin really well,also plays 85mph+ bowler as a medium pacer... He watches the ball coming to the bat and waits for the ball, not chasing the ball which is a very good sign for a batsman...

Best of luck to him....
 
Very poor against pace. Seems to do well under pressure or may be this is a purple patch.
 
From what I have seen, he is decent against spin but extremely poor against pace.
 
Very poor against pace. Seems to do well under pressure or may be this is a purple patch.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I was berated by a few here for saying he was hopeless against pace during the CLT20 :afaq
 
He doesn't look so good while batting (I noticed this in the late part of ClT20 too) but has an effective way of scoring runs. Unlike most other Pakistani player, he rotates strike well and can hit the occasional big shots too which means he ends up with a good S/R.
Since he can bowl few overs as well, looks like a good prospect for the future.
 
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this, I was berated by a few here for saying he was hopeless against pace during the CLT20 :afaq

Don't like it when Indians call our players bad for some reason. :mc Do understand.
 
Looked all at sea against pace bowling. But he values his wicket and is good at rotating the strike. Add to that he looks very awkward at the crease.

First Impression: A poor man's Fawad Alam.
 
kid's got some mongrel in him, that cant be underrated, seems a decent leggie (needs more control) and good fielder, definitely a prospect worth persevering with in the squad. he will have to be very very hardworking though.
 
his batting technique is very similar to maliks, like most Pakistani batsmen these days he seems very limited and has a lack of footwork
 
best of luck saad nasim for today's match
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] bai wat is ur opinion about this guy ?
 
i hope HArris sohail gets a game in place of Saad nasim, he is true bits and pieces player

We have 6 bowlers playing, so there is no use of bits and pieces AR
 
i hope HArris sohail gets a game in place of Saad nasim, he is true bits and pieces player

We have 6 bowlers playing, so there is no use of bits and pieces AR

Why not play both ? Surely Saad is a better option than Awais Zia

Sarfraz Ahmed
Ahmed Shehzad
Mohammad Hafeez
Haris Sohail
Umar Akmal
Saad Nasim
Shahid Afridi (c)
Tanvir / Gul
Wahab Riaz
Raza Hasan
Gul / Irfan.
 
Why not play both ? Surely Saad is a better option than Awais Zia

Sarfraz Ahmed
Ahmed Shehzad
Mohammad Hafeez
Haris Sohail
Umar Akmal
Saad Nasim
Shahid Afridi (c)
Tanvir / Gul
Wahab Riaz
Raza Hasan
Gul / Irfan.

Awais zia will play for sure, Hafeez wont open

Competetion will be b/w Saad and HArris and I would take HArris anyday at no. 4
 
best of luck saad nasim for today's match
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] bai wat is ur opinion about this guy ?

Good player of spin, rotates the strike well. However he's weak against pace.

Overall a decent cricketer and a good option to have in the squad, but doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI over the likes of Haris etc.
 
Good player of spin, rotates the strike well. However he's weak against pace.

Overall a decent cricketer and a good option to have in the squad, but doesn't deserve to be in the playing XI over the likes of Haris etc.

didn't get a chance but fielded very well
 
He should be in the team for his fielding, he reminds of Shoaib Malik.

Every team needs a specialist fielder in the world cup, even if he sucks at everything else, the stellar fielding makes up for it.
 
He's a brilliant fielder, man. That six he saved on the boundary was the first time in a while I've seen a Pakistani use their athleticism in the field so well.
 
He's a good team man, but he will find chances hard to come by in the future.
 
He should be in the team for his fielding, he reminds of Shoaib Malik.

Every team needs a specialist fielder in the world cup, even if he sucks at everything else, the stellar fielding makes up for it.

Most ridiculous non-troll post I have probably ever seen on PakPassion!!
 
This one looks like a real team man. At least so far. :yk2

Hey,I know this is going off topic but I have been wondering for quite some time that who is this pipe smoking man in your avatar.You seem to change them quite often but this one is my favourite.
 
Top fielding. But I do not understand why he we not given a chance with the bowl. Debutants and new players should be given chances ahead of seniors, in such formats.

I remember when they would not let Hammad bowl, same old crap.
 
I think we are wasting time on Saad Nasim specially if his bowling isn't world class, no one really takes T20s seriously at world level except for WC and he seems to be an OK T20 specialist. T20 should be used to groom players for ODIs so if some exciting young players are unable to find a spot in ODI then give them a chance in T20.
 
Top fielding. But I do not understand why he we not given a chance with the bowl. Debutants and new players should be given chances ahead of seniors, in such formats.

I remember when they would not let Hammad bowl, same old crap.

Because letting him bowl could put the more pressure on a few seniors. That's the sad reality
 
Shoaib Malik 2.

A bowler who developed into a batsman.
Technically unsound but has a good temperament and looks mentally strong.
 
Hey,I know this is going off topic but I have been wondering for quite some time that who is this pipe smoking man in your avatar.You seem to change them quite often but this one is my favourite.

Vincent van Gogh.
 
If he can replicate Malik's 2003-2008 exploits it would be wonderful, but don't see him getting many games.

He will be the new Rehman, always in the squad but never in the playing XI.
 
Never heard of him,care to elaborate.I particularly like his fur hat.I myself have a similar one of fox pelt.

A 19th century Dutch artist. I love painting and he's one of my favorite.
 
Mediocre at best ! Dont understand the shuffle on the the off every time he plays !

Not an impact player, at best can & should play for Lahore lions !
 
At least he can rotate the strike, gives us good balance. Must be given more chances..
 
One of the NZ commentators reckons he plays mostly off the front foot and doesn't get in line as a result. Can't say I disagree with him. His style won't work away from the SC unless he can fix that.
 
Pros:

Good player of spin

Very good fielder

Hard worker

Busy, thinking cricketer

Cons:

Poor against pace

Lacks ability

Nothing standout

Assessment:

Poor man's Malik - will make the team for a while getting random games here and there but will never cement his position and will eventually slip under the radar and get a mention in the 'forgotten cricketers' thread.
 
Pros:

Good player of spin

Very good fielder

Hard worker

Busy, thinking cricketer

Cons:

Poor against pace

Lacks ability

Nothing standout

Assessment:

Poor man's Malik - will make the team for a while getting random games here and there but will never cement his position and will eventually slip under the radar and get a mention in the 'forgotten cricketers' thread.
 
Unless his bowling is good I would far rather see Malik in the team, at least he can hit well off the back foot.
 
What is this obsession with PP'ers for old and outdated stuff like Malik/ Razzak/ YK
 
so after a miserable debut ,
saad comes off good with the bat in his 2nd odi
he was 16 of 50 balls but then accelerated to 77 of 95
 
Been supporting him since day 1. Hope this will be a start of great performances, come on Saad I know you can do this iA
 
A good performance from Saad today. Very pleased for him. Haters are gonna hate hate hate, but he will skake it off hopefully.
 
Scored one boundary in the last 10 overs. Wow Wahab batted well indeed.
 
He seems to be a tough guy but very limited range of shots otherwise he would have made a hundred today. I don't know if he'll be able to become a regular with the likes of Umar and Shezza back in the team.

The only thing that can save him is his bowling. He should focus on his leggies as well.
 
scores 62 and a 0 and took 3 wickets while leading Lahore blues

Why does he bat at number 5 with an average of 29 in Fc cricket and why does a batsman with Fc average of 37 bats at number 7 ? Captain Saad or coach to blame for ?
 
Why does this guy even have a thread in his name.
Pathetic cricketer. The epitome of mediocrity. If guys like him can make it then I surely made the wrong decision by not pursuing cricket and choosing studies instead.
 
Why does this guy even have a thread in his name.
Pathetic cricketer. The epitome of mediocrity. If guys like him can make it then I surely made the wrong decision by not pursuing cricket and choosing studies instead.

u can't disrespect him like that
yes he's a mediocre cricketer but still u gotta show some respect
 
u can't disrespect him like that
yes he's a mediocre cricketer but still u gotta show some respect
I m not insulting him. This is what I genuinely think.
I m doing my bachelor's in the uk n play for my uni.
Seriously, sometimes I think only if I had prioritized cricket, I could hv had a shot at the proffessional game but, then other responsibilities came in the way.

Seeing guys like saad nasim, mukhtar, usman salahuddin make it to the top level really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth as it gives an indication that it was never that hard to succeed at cricket, had I tried


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I m not insulting him. This is what I genuinely think.
I m doing my bachelor's in the uk n play for my uni.
Seriously, sometimes I think only if I had prioritized cricket, I could hv had a shot at the proffessional game but, then other responsibilities came in the way.

Seeing guys like saad nasim, mukhtar, usman salahuddin make it to the top level really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth as it gives an indication that it was never that hard to succeed at cricket, had I tried


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This is not fair . Usman Salahuddin was playing very well when he got run out due to the partner's mistake and than he was dropped from Pakistan team after 2 games. And let's not discuss at what numbers he came out to bat in those matches .

The guy was averaging 50 plus . What ? 50 plus with the bat in first class cricket and was top batsman of quaid e azam trophy when he got selected for Pakistan team at the age of 19,20 which was too early . Having just seen him bat in 2,3 televised matches with him falling cheaply doesn't make him a batsman in the class of mukhtar and Saad Nasim. Check his Fc numbers still. He was the only personal responsible for State bank qualifying for semifinal last year and than Babar Azam shined in semifinal .
 
This is not fair . Usman Salahuddin was playing very well when he got run out due to the partner's mistake and than he was dropped from Pakistan team after 2 games. And let's not discuss at what numbers he came out to bat in those matches .

The guy was averaging 50 plus . What ? 50 plus with the bat in first class cricket and was top batsman of quaid e azam trophy when he got selected for Pakistan team at the age of 19,20 which was too early . Having just seen him bat in 2,3 televised matches with him falling cheaply doesn't make him a batsman in the class of mukhtar and Saad Nasim. Check his Fc numbers still. He was the only personal responsible for State bank qualifying for semifinal last year and than Babar Azam shined in semifinal .
I hv seen him bat n he has no time to play fast bowling.
always looks hurried, even more so than :shafiq.
I dont rate these runs in our domestic coz
As far as scoring runs in first class is concerned, then look no further than the bradman himself; fawad alam, a guy who is the biggests evidence of a failed domestic system.

The pitches here dont encourage good stroke players coz they r either too slow or r covered with too much grass.
The only batsmen who do well r grafters.
This why dross like alam n salahuddin keep on churning out

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I hv seen him bat n he has no time to play fast bowling.
always looks hurried, even more so than :shafiq.
I dont rate these runs in our domestic coz
As far as scoring runs in first class is concerned, then look no further than the bradman himself; fawad alam, a guy who is the biggests evidence of a failed domestic system.

The pitches here dont encourage good stroke players coz they r either too slow or r covered with too much grass.
The only batsmen who do well r grafters.
This why dross like alam n salahuddin keep on churning out

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Fawad Alam is am exception along with misbah.

Umar Akmal was also averaging 50 plus when he made pakistan team. He was a stroke player . Haris Sohail was also not just an accumulator when he played for Pakistan he was averaging 52 in Fc cricket. Every country has specific wickets . Pitches of islamabad , KRL rawalpindi , mirpur and abbotabad are fast . Especially diamond cricket ground . Yes on some wickets there is too big a grass . Major issue is the ball being used .

You cannot put usman in the same basket as mukhtar and Saad. But it's your personal opinion so I respect it .
 
Fawad Alam is am exception along with misbah.

Umar Akmal was also averaging 50 plus when he made pakistan team. He was a stroke player . Haris Sohail was also not just an accumulator when he played for Pakistan he was averaging 52 in Fc cricket. Every country has specific wickets . Pitches of islamabad , KRL rawalpindi , mirpur and abbotabad are fast . Especially diamond cricket ground . Yes on some wickets there is too big a grass . Major issue is the ball being used .

You cannot put usman in the same basket as mukhtar and Saad. But it's your personal opinion so I respect it .
Umar is an exception as he has all basis covered in terms of batting, except for the part that he lacks a brain.

If u analyze closely the game of all the new pak batsmen.
What do they struggle with most?
Yes their defensive techniques are flawed n they struggle when there is pace in bounce. However, the biggest issue is the inability to rotate strike.

What is the reason for it?
Bowling friendly pitches.
On slow n turning pitches,u cant use a half open bat face to nurdle the ball into gaps as u run the risk of getting beaten by the spin n also there isnt much pace off the wicket to use n guide it where u want.
So what does the batsman do?
He either sits in, waiting for a rank bad, which somebody like usman salahuddin and fawad would do, or in the other case try to slog his way out of trouble. Those who choose the latter method end up being hacks like mukhtar, khalid latif and sharjeel. These guys cant rotate strike to save their lives n all their game is centred on the bottom hand to generate power on slow wickets.
The top hand game of all these hacks is so weak coz they hardly get the pace to play those shots, with another reason being the bounce not being true.

The same thing happens on those green mambas, with that gray's ball,where u cant play on the up n there is so much help for the bowlers that the batsmen can never be confident of playing a stroke.
So how do they score then? Simple,The fawad alam way.

Apart from a select few, including krl's diamond club ground , there r is hardly a strip prepared where there is even bounce for the batsmen.
Even the pitch on that ground is usually covered with grass for matches as can be seen from the unreal stats of sadaf hussain, who plays there for krl

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Umar is an exception as he has all basis covered in terms of batting, except for the part that he lacks a brain.

If u analyze closely the game of all the new pak batsmen.
What do they struggle with most?
Yes their defensive techniques are flawed n they struggle when there is pace in bounce. However, the biggest issue is the inability to rotate strike.

What is the reason for it?
Bowling friendly pitches.
On slow n turning pitches,u cant use a half open bat face to nurdle the ball into gaps as u run the risk of getting beaten by the spin n also there isnt much pace off the wicket to use n guide it where u want.
So what does the batsman do?
He either sits in, waiting for a rank bad, which somebody like usman salahuddin and fawad would do, or in the other case try to slog his way out of trouble. Those who choose the latter method end up being hacks like mukhtar, khalid latif and sharjeel. These guys cant rotate strike to save their lives n all their game is centred on the bottom hand to generate power on slow wickets.
The top hand game of all these hacks is so weak coz they hardly get the pace to play those shots, with another reason being the bounce not being true.

The same thing happens on those green mambas, with that gray's ball,where u cant play on the up n there is so much help for the bowlers that the batsmen can never be confident of playing a stroke.
So how do they score then? Simple,The fawad alam way.

Apart from a select few, including krl's diamond club ground , there r is hardly a strip prepared where there is even bounce for the batsmen.
Even the pitch on that ground is usually covered with grass for matches as can be seen from the unreal stats of sadaf hussain, who plays there for krl

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Apart from dross players or blockers who see off new ball and pace bowlers and drive on spinners and medium pacers there are hacks but there are also good players.

Like Saad Ali , Babar Azam , Saud Shakeel , Zeeshan Malik , Hassan Raza junior, Rehan Afridi , Khushdil Shah , Ahsan Ali and Sarmad Bhatti who defy all odds and are smooth players . It isn't All bleak despite the balls and pitch situation .
 
Apart from dross players or blockers who see off new ball and pace bowlers and drive on spinners and medium pacers there are hacks but there are also good players.

Like Saad Ali , Babar Azam , Saud Shakeel , Zeeshan Malik , Hassan Raza junior, Rehan Afridi , Khushdil Shah , Ahsan Ali and Sarmad Bhatti who defy all odds and are smooth players . It isn't All bleak despite the balls and pitch situation .
Dude, most of these guys r exceptions.
It depends on what individual training routine one has.

I wont be surprised to know that somebody like ahsan ali has been ractising on a cement slab near his house

Babar azam has been in the nca from his teens
He has got to play indoors, where the ball comes on to tge bat, that too against bowling machines, which can be cranked upwards of 90mph.

It also depends on who one models himself on.
A guy who wants to pull like ponting will somehow find a way to be good at it. Shehzad was such example.

But then again, all these modes of education n training are not being taught by the first class system but by other initiatives.


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Umar is an exception as he has all basis covered in terms of batting, except for the part that he lacks a brain.

If u analyze closely the game of all the new pak batsmen.
What do they struggle with most?
Yes their defensive techniques are flawed n they struggle when there is pace in bounce. However, the biggest issue is the inability to rotate strike.

What is the reason for it?
Bowling friendly pitches.
On slow n turning pitches,u cant use a half open bat face to nurdle the ball into gaps as u run the risk of getting beaten by the spin n also there isnt much pace off the wicket to use n guide it where u want.
So what does the batsman do?
He either sits in, waiting for a rank bad, which somebody like usman salahuddin and fawad would do, or in the other case try to slog his way out of trouble. Those who choose the latter method end up being hacks like mukhtar, khalid latif and sharjeel. These guys cant rotate strike to save their lives n all their game is centred on the bottom hand to generate power on slow wickets.
The top hand game of all these hacks is so weak coz they hardly get the pace to play those shots, with another reason being the bounce not being true.

The same thing happens on those green mambas, with that gray's ball,where u cant play on the up n there is so much help for the bowlers that the batsmen can never be confident of playing a stroke.
So how do they score then? Simple,The fawad alam way.

Apart from a select few, including krl's diamond club ground , there r is hardly a strip prepared where there is even bounce for the batsmen.
Even the pitch on that ground is usually covered with grass for matches as can be seen from the unreal stats of sadaf hussain, who plays there for krl

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http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/114/114258/f_Bowling_by_Ground.html

You are wrong about Sadaf Hussain though.
Check the above link.
 
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http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/114/114258/f_Bowling_by_Ground.html

You are wrong about Sadaf Hussain though.
Check the above link.

Sadaf hussain is a unique bowler than all others in term of one more stat. 5 wicket and 10 wicket halls. He was 20 fivefers and 5 tenfers. More than anybody in our domestic cricket and I think he has the highest ratio of getting fivefers and tenfers in our Fc cricket history .

But can you see ?

14/20 fivefers in rawalpindi grounds
4/5 tenfers in rawalpindi grounds
 
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