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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Rizwan: Performance as white-ball captain and captaincy watch thread

RidiculousMan said:
Yep. Rizwan doesn't rely on reflexes and timing as other players. Babar may retire earlier than Rizwan.
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I've completly changed my mind about how i viewed certain players after yesterday's match.

I've now understood where you, @Major @RedwoodOriginal and a few others were coming from.

I still believe babar and rizwan are bang average, they are not as good as their made out to be, But I thought that these 2 were blocking pathways for others. When usman khan outperformed everyone in psl and when KG scored a test century in debut, I thought that the myth of ba/riz would fade

But now ik that it was just one hit hype. KG, Saud(in odi), Usman Khan, Haris haven't proven themselves to be effective replacements so theirs no point in complaining about rizzu. Hence my beef with rizzu is settled until a better keeper bat comes along.

One valid complaint is fakhar and saim. I do believe fakhar and saim should open for Pakistan in all formats. In tests it should be Saim + Shan(until a replacement for shan is found as Abdullah is horrible).

I do have major beef with Babar though. I hope a better no 3 comes along cause this is getting ridiculous. His avg in odi has dropped to 55, in t20 it's 39 now and in tests it 42.

It use to be 61, 49 and 47 respectively.
 
Ideally we should bring imam to open with fakhar and bat babar at 3 with rizwan at 4. If thats not the case and pitches are going to be like this i wont mind giving usman a run. He might murder an attack in one innings in these pitches.

Rizwan gets so much hate but in last 5 years almost all successful chases by pakistan have been with rizwan.

Fakhar seems to be in great touch. Maybe give him a run in all formats for 2 3 years that he can play.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan won't decline at 34 or 35. He'll play till 37 to 39.

He's not a reactions based or timing based players, he plays the ball late or early with late cuts, Slog sweeps, and pre mediated sweeps against spin. Unless he loses fitness, he won't decline in the sense that kohli declined.

Kohli relies on reactions and pure timing which is non existent for him at his age.

Misbah went to 40+ cause he isn't a timing based player either. However rizwan will need to vacate his t20 opening spot.

Opening is reactions based role and rizzu's t20 opening form is clearly going down the drain. He'll be fine in the middle for pk in odi and tests
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There are many things. Because once you cross the 35s, the knifes are out. And when there is another keeper incoming than problems can also start.

Than you also need a selector that doesnt bow down to social media because he love to create hype of a new youngster.

Lets see how long he can play, but his keeping is refreshing to watch and i hope Pakistan does find a keeper of his calìber
 
mominsaigol said:
I've completly changed my mind about how i viewed certain players after yesterday's match.

I've now understood where you, @Major @RedwoodOriginal and a few others were coming from.

I still believe babar and rizwan are bang average, they are not as good as their made out to be, But I thought that these 2 were blocking pathways for others. When usman khan outperformed everyone in psl and when KG scored a test century in debut, I thought that the myth of ba/riz would fade

But now ik that it was just one hit hype. KG, Saud(in odi), Usman Khan, Haris haven't proven themselves to be effective replacements so theirs no point in complaining about rizzu. Hence my beef with rizzu is settled until a better keeper bat comes along.

One valid complaint is fakhar and saim. I do believe fakhar and saim should open for Pakistan in all formats. In tests it should be Saim + Shan(until a replacement for shan is found as Abdullah is horrible).

I do have major beef with Babar though. I hope a better no 3 comes along cause this is getting ridiculous. His avg in odi has dropped to 55, in t20 it's 39 now and in tests it 42.

It use to be 61, 49 and 47 respectively.
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KG is a very mediocre player in my opinion. If you watch closely his range is very limited.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Call him a match-winner. Look who is on number 2???

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Boss man we know what happened the last time you shared a stat. Stay humble. A lot of these things eventually turn out to be senseless.
 
BouncerGuy said:
LOL.... Thanks...

This is a team game and taking team from 91/3 to chasing 350+ score is no joke... credit should be given to him and Salman.

Both of them played a great knock...
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91-3 was not in 25 overs…. It was 10 overs

It wasn’t like Glen Maxwell who only had Cummins and tail left with him needing 200+ runs

That’s how you guys are making it out for Rizwan on this road against SA c string bowlers besides Maharaj.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
KG is a very mediocre player in my opinion. If you watch closely his range is very limited.
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Yeah he is, He fooled alot of people due to his debut century.

I don't view him as a horrible player but he is medicore. I appreciate that he's a hard worker and that he's free flow, but talent wise he's nothing special.
 
Rana said:
91-3 was not in 25 overs…. It was 10 overs

It wasn’t like Glen Maxwell who only had Cummins and tail left with him needing 200+ runs

That’s how you guys are making it out for Rizwan on this road against SA c string bowlers besides Maharaj.
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To this day I'm at awe of that innings. Superman Maxwell.
 
Rana said:
91-3 was not in 25 overs…. It was 10 overs

It wasn’t like Glen Maxwell who only had Cummins and tail left with him needing 200+ runs

That’s how you guys are making it out for Rizwan on this road against SA c string bowlers besides Maharaj.
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We are celebrating the win, its you who went into hiding.

Its quite ironic how you have bought maxwells one man show, meanwhile since yesterday you have been praising Salman Agha, Fakhar Zaman, The Extra runs, Tayyabs 4, but all of a sudden when it coms to Rizwan, its that, oh he didnt pull off a one man show




You literally did this last night:

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Major said:
We are celebrating the win, its you who went into hiding.

Its quite ironic how you have bought maxwells one man show, meanwhile since yesterday you have been praising Salman Agha, Fakhar Zaman, The Extra runs, Tayyabs 4, but all of a sudden when it coms to Rizwan, its that, oh he didnt pull off a one man show




You literally did this last night:

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Hain? Have you been stalking my timings here? I was here last night giving full credit to Salman Agha for playing the innings of a lifetime.
 
Kianig89 said:
Sensational , In ODIs for those interested in numbers @Rana
Rizwan averages 42 with SR 88

The legendary KP averaged 41 with SR 87
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This is why people who are critical of rizwan like @Rana start hating rizzu and his fans even more.

How do you come with such nonsense? I'm grateful KP will never get to see your comment.
 
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mominsaigol said:
This is why people who are critical of rizwan like @Rana start hating rizzu and his fans even more.

How do you come with such nonsense? I'm grateful KP will never get to see your comment.
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Whats wrong with it , just quoted the numbers and don't be selective blind what is written in the post below do read it
 
Kianig89 said:
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Whats wrong with it , just quoted the numbers and don't be selective blind what is written in the post below do read it
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No you tagged my friend and someone who I respect on this forumn to deliberately annoy and troll him.
 
Rana said:
They know I will repay them with interest soon. Let them have their little time in the sun
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Your revenge moment will probs come in CT. The biggest problem with Rizwan is that even though he's consistent in odi and tests, he has that SA/Misbah knockout mentality.

That's a huge weakness + his Zero offside game hasn't vanished, it's still ever present .

But tbf, KG, Saud and Usman haven't kicked off. A part of me is hoping Usman kicks off though and dislodged Rizwan but I don't think it'll happen.

They either won't play him or will play in CT in pressure moments.
 
mominsaigol said:
Your revenge moment will probs come in CT. The biggest problem with Rizwan is that even though he's consistent in odi and tests, he has that SA/Misbah knockout mentality.

That's a huge weakness + his Zero offside game hasn't vanished, it's still ever present .

But tbf, KG, Saud and Usman haven't kicked off. A part of me is hoping Usman kicks off though and dislodged Rizwan but I don't think it'll happen.

They either won't play him or will play in CT in pressure moments.
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Whenever it does come, these jobbers know with me that ‘when it rains, it pours’. They will suffer me. Believe that.
 
mominsaigol said:
Your revenge moment will probs come in CT. The biggest problem with Rizwan is that even though he's consistent in odi and tests, he has that SA/Misbah knockout mentality.

That's a huge weakness + his Zero offside game hasn't vanished, it's still ever present .

But tbf, KG, Saud and Usman haven't kicked off. A part of me is hoping Usman kicks off though and dislodged Rizwan but I don't think it'll happen.

They either won't play him or will play in CT in pressure moments.
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Played a lot of shots offside including quite a few boundaries.
 
PakPremi said:
Played a lot of shots offside including quite a few boundaries.
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He has a weakness towards the offside which is very evident. Babar can hit sixes and has hit them before but does that mean he's a natural six hitter? Nope.

Rizzu and babar are mediocre players and I haven't chanhed my mind on it one bit.

However yes I have acknowledged that their aren't any odi replacements available for Babar at 3 and no wicket keeping batters available to replace or any no 4 batter as KG, Saud(in odi) and usman khan haven't kicked off and are kinda useless.

Fakhar and saim are the 2 best batters followed by Ba/riz in odi. In tests its saud + Rizwan. In t20 it's no one as they all suck atm.
 
I think it was a masterstroke today to bat first. Most Pak games will be in Dubai which is win toss and win games chasing kind of pitches.

The match that matters is the India game. So this is a great practice to set a target and Karachi type conditons are kind of similar.

Pak team management always walk a thin line so they can’t afford these risks. I would like to give 💯 credit to the Rizz.
 
His cowardice is there for everyone to see.

As for Rizwan's innings, it's massively overrated on here.

The 90 runs in the first 10 overs were clutch as it meant Pakistan were chasing more like 260ish in 240 balls, which was gettable with all the dew and the fact that Pakistan were facing a depleted South African bowling attack. But Rizwan's tempo wasn't the best.

Here are the facts:

Rizwan took 64 balls to get to 50. This equates to a strike rate of 78. At the time, Pakistan required 171 balls from 129 balls. The run rate required was 8 runs per over.

In contrast, Salman Agha scored his half century at a run ball, which is a far more acceptable strike rate, 100.

At the end of the run chase, Rizwan wasn't even able to take his strike rate up to run a ball.

It was a Misbah-esque innings. The only difference being, Misbah would never have scored a hundred because that's something he was unable to accomplish in ODIs.

Salman Agha carried Rizwan hard, as evident by his stellar strike rate of 130. Had he got out with half (or less) number of runs, Pakistan probably would've lost this game.

Rizwan's innings wasn't all that, it was potentially match losing, if anything. If you're going to struggle scoring above run a ball against B/C string bowling attack in dew conditions then chances are he's going to struggle in the CT where there's nowhere to hide. He will have to prove himself against first string world class bowling attacks if he wants to win over his critics. But we all know he simply doesn't have the shot range because of his terrible offside game, so the bottom line is best to keep expectations low otherwise you're going to get hurt.
 
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LBW chance can be linked to rizwan here. I think he got afraid that they might lose a review there.

Pakistan missed several key chances in the match:
  1. Tom Latham was dropped twice, on 15 and 27.
  2. Mohammad Rizwan failed to use DRS for a potential lbw dismissal of Latham, which replays showed would have been out.
  3. They bowled 16 wides and displayed overall indiscipline in the field, which cost them dearly.
 
While speaking on his YouTube channel, Ahmed Shehzad slammed Rizwan’s decision to bat first in the tri-series final against New Zealand:

“Pakistan’s bubble has burst ahead of the Champions Trophy.”

“It was a mind-boggling decision (to bat first) because we had seen in the previous match that the pitch becomes better for batting at night. The ball doesn’t grip the surface for spinners. Still, the Pakistan team decided to bat first. Brainless decision—no clue."

“In every decision, the Pakistan captain wants to play safe with batting—whether it’s being a spinner short in the Champions Trophy squad or, in this match, playing (bowling all-rounder) Faheem Ashraf to strengthen the batting lineup at the expense of (fast bowler) Mohammad Hasnain, yet still using Ashraf for just two overs.”

“In a final, you are making childish decisions… making so many mistakes in matches. You get a chance to win only when the opposition performs below par or doesn’t have their main players available.”
 
Mohammad Rizwan has moved up 6 places to reach at 15th spot in the latest ICC ODI batters rankings.

Good stuff as Pakistan needs him in the middle order.
 
Short leg in position, and Rizwan's men are fired up!

A short-ball strategy on this flat track might be the key to breaking NZ’s partnership before it gains momentum.

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After Muhammad Rizwan’s first win as captain, many noticed how active he was on the field. Fans praised him for bringing out the best in bowlers like Shaheen and Rauf, coaching Saim to become a world-class player, and constantly adjusting field placements after every ball. However, a few months later, Rizwan seems unable to get the best out of his bowlers, coach batsmen to maintain a run-a-ball strike rate, or even set effective field placements. So, what has gone wrong?
 
Former Pakistan cricketer Iqbal Qasim, while speaking on a TV show:

"Captaincy is not just about following a formula. You have to read the game situation, decide who should bowl at what stage, and how long they should bowl. Pakistan has given away over 100 runs in the last 10 overs in their last three matches. Today, they conceded 113 runs in the last 10 overs."

"Haris Rauf is getting wickets, but he is also conceding a lot of runs. Maybe he needs to be used differently rather than just at the death overs where he goes all out. Captaincy is about making decisions on the spot, not just sticking to a set formula of giving each bowler three or four overs at a time."
 
The boat should sail now, PCB needs to look at bigger picture but knowing PCB they damn care
 
FearlessRoar said:
Should have played a more extended innings

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Slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper this century (min 75 balls)

Mohammad Rizwan - 46 off 77 balls (SR 59.74) vs IND in Dubai, 2025

Mohammad Rizwan - 46 off 76 balls (SR 60.52) vs NZ in Karachi, 2025

Moin Khan - 52 off 78 balls (SR 66.66) vs NZ in Wellington, 2004

In fact, on record, where data available, Rizwan’s 46 today is the third-slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper ever.

Slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper in ODI history (min 75 balls)

Moin Khan - 37* off 77 balls (SR 48.05) vs NZ in Sharjah, 1996

Aamer Malik - 69 off 116 balls (SR SR 59.48) vs SL in Perth, 1989
 
FearlessRoar said:
Slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper this century (min 75 balls)

Mohammad Rizwan - 46 off 77 balls (SR 59.74) vs IND in Dubai, 2025

Mohammad Rizwan - 46 off 76 balls (SR 60.52) vs NZ in Karachi, 2025

Moin Khan - 52 off 78 balls (SR 66.66) vs NZ in Wellington, 2004

In fact, on record, where data available, Rizwan’s 46 today is the third-slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper ever.

Slowest knock by a Pakistan wicketkeeper in ODI history (min 75 balls)

Moin Khan - 37* off 77 balls (SR 48.05) vs NZ in Sharjah, 1996

Aamer Malik - 69 off 116 balls (SR SR 59.48) vs SL in Perth, 1989
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And he achieved this in the year of our lord 2025, against India C bowling attack.

Well done Molvi Saab.

A cause for his cult to celebrate this:

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Going down the Babars way . Starts with a horrible performance in his first ICC event
 
Pakistan batter should now focus on their strike rates as well in white ball cricket rather than just play for their averages.
 
Give him attack that suits Aus/SA conditions- he wins

Give him 1 spinner on 4 spinner type dust bowls- he loses

I rest my case. Giving Rizwan a long rope will benefit Pak cricket: that’s my honest take. The others are not good or ready. He might not win tournaments but he will create a good core for future if given a free hand.
 
Tuk tuks his way to 70 balls, plays two aggressive hoicks, gets dropped on one, bowled on the other. The absolute lack of talent, improvement, temperament just jumped out to the fore. The commentators in the earlier days used this term a lot "being set", it just feels that no pak batter is ever set anymore.

They play the 1st, 50th, 100th ball literally in the same way.
 
Kianig89 said:
So home ground a meaningless triseries and then the chance to etched your name in cricketing history, is Rizwan up for the challenge specially Rizwan the batsman knowing that flamboyant Usman Khan is waiting in dugout and Shan Masood also vying for more leadership given his ielts certified English.

@Rana
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Rana said:
Stay humble

Stop disgracing players just to make your hero look good. These things usually come back to haunt your ilk
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Jee Kiani sab?
 
I have changed my thinking on this.

If Mohammad Rizwan is honest and he is unable to captain this side due to political interference then he should resign and play Leagues around the world. If he keeps on playing then he is a morally bankrupt individual.
 
Local.Dada said:
Give him attack that suits Aus/SA conditions- he wins

Give him 1 spinner on 4 spinner type dust bowls- he loses

I rest my case. Giving Rizwan a long rope will benefit Pak cricket: that’s my honest take. The others are not good or ready. He might not win tournaments but he will create a good core for future if given a free hand.
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Explain his today's knock. I am asking as I am not good at understanding his brand of cricket.
 
Local.Dada said:
Give him attack that suits Aus/SA conditions- he wins

Give him 1 spinner on 4 spinner type dust bowls- he loses

I rest my case. Giving Rizwan a long rope will benefit Pak cricket: that’s my honest take. The others are not good or ready. He might not win tournaments but he will create a good core for future if given a free hand.
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How can he create anything when he doesn't lead by example with his intent with the bat? Batting at a SR of 70 in the modern ODI format is not inspiring
 
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