Ertugrul_Bey
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Something that the Pakistani commentators are scared to do.
They prefer to massage the egos of the Pakistani players.
He was also not impressed by Rizwan's century in that game against Karachi. He felt that just because Rizwan was able to hit out successfully at the end and eventually end up 110 not out of 60 deliveries did not excuse him being 40 runs of 40 deliveries at the start because if he batted with more intensity early on, Multan would have ended up with 230 plus instead of 197 in the end.
He was also not impressed by Rizwan's century in that game against Karachi. He felt that just because Rizwan was able to hit out successfully at the end and eventually end up 110 not out of 60 deliveries did not excuse him being 40 runs of 40 deliveries at the start because if he batted with more intensity early on, Multan would have ended up with 230 plus instead of 197 in the end.
He was also not impressed by Rizwan's century in that game against Karachi. He felt that just because Rizwan was able to hit out successfully at the end and eventually end up 110 not out of 60 deliveries did not excuse him being 40 runs of 40 deliveries at the start because if he batted with more intensity early on, Multan would have ended up with 230 plus instead of 197 in the end.
It's a risky policy which relies on 3 things:
Rizwan not being dismissed
Rizwan being able to dramatically increase his strike-rate
Rizwan's team-mates being able to play brilliant innings right from the word go
I’m glad you are finally understanding why I have been religiously against this guy
I know this game. I know the players
No - many seem to have issues with his batting skills.
What Saj is saying above is NOT what you have been saying.
Russow , zaman and wasim have scored at away superior SR than the top 2.View attachment 119025
Looks like 140 sr is the new 120 in the PSL
Looks like 140 sr is the new 120 in the PSL
Led multan to final
Highest run scorer
And kept flawlessly as ever
Another great tournament for rizwan
A very good captain, but a player with limitations. I hope he goes away and works on his game.
Credit where due - he has clearly worked a bit on his off side game which is good to see.
However, the worrying thing is his strike rate is still not great even after some adjustment.
I think - and I hate to say it - it comes down to a lack of guts to really sacrifice his stats.
Credit where due - he has clearly worked a bit on his off side game which is good to see.
However, the worrying thing is his strike rate is still not great even after some adjustment.
I think - and I hate to say it - it comes down to a lack of guts to really sacrifice his stats.
I think the likes of Riz have done well on their strike rate Which is in the 140s
Players like him who are all format players and their game built on as juniors on technique and not getting out arent gonna become hitters and strike at 170+ Its small improvements every year which we are seeing
He will go down as the best wicketkeeping batter in T20 format ever.
He’s not better than DeQock and Butler as a keeper/Batter )
De Kock is not even close.
Butler is potentially an all format legend but you if you look at pure keeping skills and batting consistency in T20, nobody is better than Riz.
DeQock is class
He is that guy. Rizwan isn’t
De kock is overated Hes never done anything of note against pakistsn wirh the bat
De Kock has a strike rate of 135 in T20Is compared to Rizwans 126 and in all formats De Kock is better Rizwan isn’t even that good he’s been dropped from tests and has been inconsistent in ODIS.
Rizwan best period was when he played B teams and minnows which led to a player of the year award he hasn’t been anywhere close to that level in the recent World Cup and Asia Cup consistently below par in big matches for Pakistan.
And what are de kocks performances like for south africa? What world cups has he won for his team or when has his name been mentioned has the no1 player in any format b team or c team?
De kocks soft and for me always goes missing esp against pakistan I cant recall any stand out performances from him
Even now rizwan is the best all format keeper bat for pakistan He is no1 in t20s and odis and if it werent for a bad patch hed be no1 in tests too (he was avging 45 before he lost a little form and technique)
That’s what I’m saying De Kock went missing but so did Rizwan in big matches most of the time aswell which can’t make him better case in point WC semi final 2021 Asia Cup Final 2022 WC final 2022 different series deciders and tri series final all these matches Rizwan either failed to score or made a slow 50 to cost his team a win.
He will go down as the best wicketkeeping batter in T20 format ever.
Not performing in one or two finals doesnt mean someones gone missing
Rizwans won or helped contribute massively to big games for pakistan Namely india world cup game in uae and semi final of world cup againt Nz
Im yet to see anything like this from De Kock
De kock is overated Hes never done anything of note against pakistsn wirh the bat
There you said it yourself Rizwan has helped win 2 games out of 20 he’s played in tournaments meaning he’s failed to do so in 90% of matches.
Scoring runs and topping the charts isn’t enough when your scoring below the strike rate required in big matches Rizwan definitely isn’t anywhere near the top 10 batsmen in T20 simply a statpadder who likes to score as many runs as possible without looking at the scoreboard and team requirements.
He will go down as the best wicketkeeping batter in T20 format ever.
Good for him. Our champ needs a breather before the all important WC this year.Unsold in the hundred. Why is that?
Is it because he is unavailable fully? If so, why did Shaheen and Rauf get picked but he didn’t?
Good for him. Our champ needs a breather before the all important WC this year.
How and why is he still in the playing XI?
Because he is the greatest opener in the history of Pakistan t20 cricket.
He is also the greatest gloveman in the world at present.
Rizwan has delivered so many tight slaps over the past 3 years. Stay tuned - another is coming your way shortly.
Because he is the greatest opener in the history of Pakistan t20 cricket.
He is also the greatest gloveman in the world at present.
Rizwan has delivered so many tight slaps over the past 3 years. Stay tuned - another is coming your way shortly.
I don't remember the last one, could you refresh my memory?
I do remember him playing every single power play like first morning of a test in leeds. He is blocking way for other potential match winners. He may be a good keeper, but he doesn't merit a place on keeping alone, and he isn't an opener any more, unless you subscribe to aamir sohail scool of t20 that judges players on padded averages.
Lol the last slap? Clearly it's caused you to suffer memory loss as you've already forgotten the PSL.
If that still isn't enough just be patient. Rizwan is coming with another one for you shortly.
Lol the last slap? Clearly it's caused you to suffer memory loss as you've already forgotten the PSL.
If that still isn't enough just be patient. Rizwan is coming with another one for you shortly.
Which match? When was the last time we PCT won a match due to his batting?
It feels like we are stuck with Rizwan as opener until another failed World Cup run where our bowling strength isn’t able to compensate for the safety first approach with the bat in the pressure games against quality opponents.
And then perhaps we’ll be willing to go with a modern attacking approach and players like Saim and Haris will have the opportunity to open the batting and set the tone.
So until then I guess we just wait…
It feels like we are stuck with Rizwan as opener until another failed World Cup run where our bowling strength isn’t able to compensate for the safety first approach with the bat in the pressure games against quality opponents.
And then perhaps we’ll be willing to go with a modern attacking approach and players like Saim and Haris will have the opportunity to open the batting and set the tone.
So until then I guess we just wait…
You guys don't understand this game and have no idea how to discuss cricket. After getting 3 wickets in just 4 overs where the score was still below 25 runs, It was surely our bowling that lost us the game. Most of the posters here only think about batting as if bowling is not part of the game.
The problem is the mindset. Rizwan scored 17 odd in his last 13 balls where he was closing on his hundred. Not only he himself was trying for his hundred but he also managed to get other batters involved in this by trying to get on strike for his last 2 runs. This was the time when Pakistan should have been looking for 200+ total.
It's the mindset that is runing our cricket. Losing in such a pathetic manner is disappointing. At least give your best. Not try for selfish milestones.
Mickey won't tolerate some of the nonsense from RizBar and will definitely fix this. I am not trying to defend his batting in the last two overs, but then the fact remains that we only got to the score of 190 plus because of Rizwan and Rizwan only.
This is the Misbah mentality that at least we lost with grace. Rizwan should not be allowed to get away with his selfish cricket. It's all about winning not about personal milestones or losing with grace. Losing in 20th over or 16th over is the same thing for me.
If Rizwan lost his wicket after Babar, Haris and Saim, then the collapse was 100% on, but not only he batted responsibly, he also scored runs at a very rapid pace. Saim and Haris let the team down big time and stopped us from scoring 240 on this pitch.
Ok
Fair enough
But he got it all wrong by the end of it. And it cost pakistan big time. This isn’t the first time he has done this so it’s not like he committed a mistake for the first time. Rizwan just isn’t that guy pal