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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Rizwan: Performance as white-ball captain and captaincy watch thread

Ok, time to LEARN again!

Not sure if we will learn something different in this ODI series, been learning for the past 5 years with Rizwan.
 
Why can't he play a proper spinner against SENA for God's sake?

Why does he have so much faith in Garner(Rauf) Croft(Naseem) Roberts(Shaheen) Holding (Mo Ali)?
 
I will never forget the day when Pakistan had to bowl Irfan Niazi not out of a pre set plan,..

But because they desperately had to make a choice of whether accepting 400 as a total with Agha bowling his 10, or to limit the damage to 350 with Niazi chipping in by sharing Agha’s workload. That too in a track where the average score is 250 batting first


All thanks to the Pakistan Soooopa league Kaptaan Rizwan
 
This is how far the hate and distrust of Faheem Ashraf has gone? You were forced to bowl a non international standard bowler in Irfan Niazi just because the captain is clueless!
 
Can someone explain what was the reason why he didn’t wear his lipstick today? Is he conscious of being trolled for it?
 
The second time against NZ where Rizwan has been done for slow overs

This is learning? To just not care about the overrate?

Surely the ICC needs to step in and ban this guy, because he clearly doesn’t give a….about people’s time and punctuality expected from a captain!

Back in the days skippers used to serve match bans for slow over rates!
 
If you think last night was slow,

I recall once Rizwan captained MS to a 2 hour plus first innings….

The PCB did nothing! Apna larka hai…apna hero hai….


This was the attitude the PCB had towards Babar and Rizwan. They allowed them to do whatever they wanted!
 
Extra_Cover said:
Rizwan is clearly a very polarizing figure in Pakistan cricket. Though I'm a firm believer that his supporters would range around 80% of overall fanbase and haters making up 20% of this fanbase. But given the haters are extremely loud and noisy there tends to be a perception that Rizwan has more haters than supporters (false opinion in my view).
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If he has 80% fans in the fanbase,

Then you know the fans are as mediocre as the team.
 
Rana said:
The second time against NZ where Rizwan has been done for slow overs

This is learning? To just not care about the overrate?

Surely the ICC needs to step in and ban this guy, because he clearly doesn’t give a….about people’s time and punctuality expected from a captain!

Back in the days skippers used to serve match bans for slow over rates!
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It's because he thinks he can bowl out opposition in 40 overs.

I remember back in aus and sa series I complained about this overrate and asked the question what if pakistan isn't able to bowl out oppositions?

Their getting away with it vs and Aussie side that's too busy preparing for BGT and a SA side that's too busy preparing for their final Wtc standing.

What will happen afterwards? You can't play 4 pacers and bowl them one after the other nonstop.

Spinners are quick and get overs done quickly.

It also doesn't help that in this game I noticed everytime he went for a drs review, he waited till the last second to go upstairs.

Why? If you were so sure that Chapman, mitchell and others were goners why wait that long?
 
mominsaigol said:
It's because he thinks he can bowl out opposition in 40 overs.

I remember back in aus and sa series I complained about this overrate and asked the question what if pakistan isn't able to bowl out oppositions?

Their getting away with it vs and Aussie side that's too busy preparing for BGT and a SA side that's too busy preparing for their final Wtc standing.

What will happen afterwards? You can't play 4 pacers and bowl them one after the other nonstop.

Spinners are quick and get overs done quickly.

It also doesn't help that in this game I noticed everytime he went for a drs review, he waited till the last second to go upstairs.

Why? If you were so sure that Chapman, mitchell and others were goners why wait that long?
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Good spot on the drs thing.

He does it purposely because he knows at that point he is centre stage for the cameras. This guy loves attention and wants to lap it up.

He will act like he is listening to people but in truth, he has already made his mind up to take the review and is counting down the clock to take it on the last second.
 
Rana said:
Good spot on the drs thing.

He does it purposely because he knows at that point he is centre stage for the cameras. This guy loves attention and wants to lap it up.

He will act like he is listening to people but in truth, he has already made his mind up to take the review and is counting down the clock to take it on the last second.
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Some of them don't even make any sense.

The chapman one was probably the most obvious one. Even if you're a keeper and don't have an aerial view like I did,

The way chapman shuffled across and the way the bowl pitched, any keeper could have figured it out.

What was he on about height? Chapman got on one leg and he isn't a 6'8 juggernaut 🤣🤣
 
Chasing 293 and scored 5 runs off 27 balls... His position at number 4 is questionable...

Looked like a tailender in those conditions so far... New Zealand is just too good for them
 
Hitman said:
Imagine someone from Australia, India, England or New Zealand playing an innings like Rizwan played today while chasing 290+
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Imagine if someone from Australia, India, England or New Zealand had these innings under their belt:
1. 67 from 52 in a T20 world cup semi
2. 55 from 49 in a Asia Cup T20 Final
3. 31 from 44 vs our biggest rival in a T20
4. 46 from 77 vs our biggest rival in a ODI

No team would tolerate this. Not India, not Australia, not even Bangladesh or Zimbabwe yet we have promoted this monster as our ODI captain

Shame on Ramiz Raja, shame on Mohsin Naqvi and shame biggest shame on Misbah Ul Haq
 
Why Rizwan is so adamant to play at no. 4? He should either open in ODIs or play at no. 6-7. He is damaging the team combination because of his ego.

Also, why Saud Shakeel is dropped? The current playing 11 is clearly one bowler short, you can't play ODIs with only 5 bowlers
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Imagine if someone from Australia, India, England or New Zealand had these innings under their belt:
1. 67 from 52 in a T20 world cup semi
2. 55 from 49 in a Asia Cup T20 Final
3. 31 from 44 vs our biggest rival in a T20
4. 46 from 77 vs our biggest rival in a ODI

No team would tolerate this. Not India, not Australia, not even Bangladesh or Zimbabwe yet we have promoted this monster as our ODI captain

Shame on Ramiz Raja, shame on Mohsin Naqvi and shame biggest shame on Misbah Ul Haq
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Anyone from those those countries I've highlighted, if they played such an innings while chasing 290+, his reputation would have been buried 6 feet under the ground. It would be better to get dismissed for a golden duck instead.
 
List of international keepers better than Rizwan
1. Carey
2. Inglis
3. Pant
4. Kishan
5. Rickelton
6. Klaseen
7. Hay
8. Latham
9. Young
10. Foakes
11. Butler
12. Das
13. Mendis
14. Perera
15. Tucker
16. Gurbaz
17. Da Silva
18. Pooran
19. Jamie smith
20. Bairstow
21. Billings
22. Salt
23. Mushfiqir
24. Jaker Ali

I would carry on but list is getting too long. You could probably add and additional 25 others and this is excluding non test teams

From Pakistan
1. Usman khan
2. Mohammad Haris
3. Saifi ❤️
4. Haseebullah
5. Nafay
6. Rehan afridi
7. Umar Siddique
8. Mohammad Aklahq
9. Mohammad Taha
10. Saad Baig
11. Umair masood
12. Zeeshan Ashraf
 
After his first game as captain people were saying

'Oh look how he takes the most out of his bowlers"

'Rizwan is the one who made saim and taught him how to hild the bat"

"Oh look at his field placements"

Those guys are made to look stupid now, the reason we won the first few games was because of saims batting in powerplay
 
Hitman said:
Anyone from those those countries I've highlighted, if they played such an innings while chasing 290+, his reputation would have been buried 6 feet under the ground. It would be better to get dismissed for a golden duck instead.
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But fans of Rizwan claim without him and Babar, Pakistan would be same level as PNG and Uganda so they can play such knocks
 
Time might be right to hand over the captaincy to Salman Agha who has shown promise and correct attitude to lead the team. @Major Is he a likeable person in the locker room.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Time might be right to hand over the captaincy to Salman Agha who has shown promise and correct attitude to lead the team. @Major Is he a likeable person in the locker room.
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The most trending player in the locker room and pakistan circles is Irfan Niazi. Something about him trends in all circles.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Time might be right to hand over the captaincy to Salman Agha who has shown promise and correct attitude to lead the team. @Major Is he a likeable person in the locker room.
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While Rizwan has sucked. But bo matter who is made captain the results wont change.
 
Babar-Riwan-Shaheen-Shadab shouldn't be captain in any format going forward. These four were part of the nexus and eventually fought with each other for captaincy.

In an ideal world of cricket, they should be fired straight away for creating a toxic and selfish environment within the team and let Pakistan youngsters express themselves under a new captain. Results don't matter for next one year, its time to heal Pakistan cricket.
 
Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1907347523062440279

@Bhaijaan
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The brother has regressed as a batter. People started criticizing him and Big Bobby for strike rate when they were actually scoring runs at least. Now even the runs have stopped coming for both. I really fail to make sense of it that why batting has become such an issue in Pakistan cricket. You weren’t world beaters at batting ever but you weren’t also this bad. Really alarming bro.
 
deep82 said:
Babar-Riwan-Shaheen-Shadab shouldn't be captain in any format going forward. These four were part of the nexus and eventually fought with each other for captaincy.

In an ideal world of cricket, they should be fired straight away for creating a toxic and selfish environment within the team and let Pakistan youngsters express themselves under a new captain. Results don't matter for next one year, its time to heal Pakistan cricket.
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Absolutely correct, no captaincy for these 4. Also, all those players who only wants to play at their preferred position must be shown door straight away. Those who can't adjust or develop their game to the teams requirements have no right to stay in the team
 
He's just a little bit out of form with the bat.

Give him and Bobsie some time and a series each against Nepal and Zim and see the magic unfold.

Remember these two tigers were the top two all format bats in the world not too long ago.
:inti
 
Master Blaster said:
He's just a little bit out of form with the bat.

Give him and Bobsie some time and a series each against Nepal and Zim and see the magic unfold.

Remember these two tigers were the top two all format bats in the world not too long ago.
:inti
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They both have been out of form since 2022 according to you guys.

How much more time you need? Until Pakistan cricket is completely finished and we are Uganda level team?
 
This guy and his team are an embarrassment. That was an utter shambles of a team perfromance
 
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Kroll said:
This guy and his team are an embarrassment. That was an utter shambles of a team perfromance
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I believe that’s 3 consecutive matches where the slow over rate Penalty has applied on Pakistan cricket
 
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Rizwan's ODI stint started with a bang in Australia and south Africa but since then, it has been a downfall.. Not like selectors are doing their job properly but now there are no excuse left.
 
deep82 said:
Babar-Riwan-Shaheen-Shadab shouldn't be captain in any format going forward. These four were part of the nexus and eventually fought with each other for captaincy.

In an ideal world of cricket, they should be fired straight away for creating a toxic and selfish environment within the team and let Pakistan youngsters express themselves under a new captain. Results don't matter for next one year, its time to heal Pakistan cricket.
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Werent Fakhar and Naseem also part of the Babar thing? Or they don't count because you like them?
 
Sachin fan said:
Werent Fakhar and Naseem also part of the Babar thing? Or they don't count because you like them?
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When did fakhar and Naseem fight for captaincy? They were never in contention?

Now if you're talking about players, Naseem wasn't a bad bowler. When a player loses form it's easy to hate him and believe they were always crap.

Naseem use to consistently get 1 wicket in every international game he ever played in before Asia cup 2023. He was a good bowler who bowled test match line and length in odi and t20.

He gained weight, and lost pace which is the story of almost every Pakistani bowler.

And fakhar is aging now but he was a solid odi batsmen. Not an atg nor was he some legend but he is a batter most teams would want to have in their lineup. I think only India probably wouldn't want to have him but Travis wouldn't mind a partner at the other end, Falhar is clearly better then short and Fraser.
 
I don't think Rizwan has much control over the captaincy stuff (i.e., squad or XI selections) and it's affecting how he's leading on the field. Aaqib Javed seems to control that part of the team in all formats.

But there's no excuse for his batting.
 
Sachin fan said:
Werent Fakhar and Naseem also part of the Babar thing? Or they don't count because you like them?
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Fakhar, Naseem, Rauf, Imam, Hasan Ali & Nawaz were not part of the nexus but they supported it nonetheless for their own benefits. No wonder they were regular part of the playing XI during the strongest nexus era ( Babar-Rizwan).

Fakhar, Naseem & Rauf still has something to offer in white ball cricket and if they are smart, they will distance themselves from the nexus.
 
mominsaigol said:
When did fakhar and Naseem fight for captaincy? They were never in contention?

Now if you're talking about players, Naseem wasn't a bad bowler. When a player loses form it's easy to hate him and believe they were always crap.

Naseem use to consistently get 1 wicket in every international game he ever played in before Asia cup 2023. He was a good bowler who bowled test match line and length in odi and t20.

He gained weight, and lost pace which is the story of almost every Pakistani bowler.

And fakhar is aging now but he was a solid odi batsmen. Not an atg nor was he some legend but he is a batter most teams would want to have in their lineup. I think only India probably wouldn't want to have him but Travis wouldn't mind a partner at the other end, Falhar is clearly better then short and Fraser.
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They both publicly backed Babar and called out those who dared criticize him.
 
Sachin fan said:
They both publicly backed Babar and called out those who dared criticize him.
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Publicly backing them vs fighting for captaincy are 2 seprate things.

No sane person on this planet would publicly clown their teammates on twitter lol. And if they stay silent it's seen as weakness as well.

Theirs nothing wrong with supporting your teammates, we don't live in a fiction movie like Lagann where their is always some moron looking to betray Amir Khan and support the British.

If I was in the team I'd back Babar Azam as well and Muhammad Rizwan too. But I'm not a cricketer, I'm a fan who is calling things out as it is, and the way things stand, Babar, Rizwan, Imam and Abdullah are baboons.
 
Sachin fan said:
Is this the same Naseem who averages 35 in t20s? And averages 40+ in ODIs for the last 2 years?
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Naseem can do the job in white ball - he has all the ingredients to be a decent package. He can swing the new ball, variations at the death and a handy batsman.

Similarly, Rauf is a decent T20 bowler- 2 overs in the middle and 2 overs in the death. Give him role clarity and see him excel in T20.

Fakhar is best ODI batsman in Pakistan for the last 8 years. Nothing special in T20 but can play in the next T20 world cup.

These are the only 3 players from [ nexus + supporters ] that can be retained going forward.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Rizwan's ODI stint started with a bang in Australia and south Africa but since then, it has been a downfall.. Not like selectors are doing their job properly but now there are no excuse left.
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🤣🤣🤣

The diffrence was saim ayub

Me and others tried explaining rizwan supporters it's no kamaal of rizwan it's saim ayub but you people were saying

"Rizwan and Babar taught saim ayub to hold the bat"

It's now clear like day and night only saim ayub was responsible for those wins and was nothing to do with rizwans captaincy

Bring back saim and pakistan will be winning again
 
I didn’t watch the first match and I am seeing some of these new faces for the very first time.

But when I randomly tuned in for an hour, Pakistan’s bowling was shockingly good and reminded me of our strengths in the past.

NZ were cruising after smashing us to bits in the PP, then Sufiyan Muqeeem came on, what an outstanding talent when you consider he has played no FC cricket, he bowled with great control and NZ couldn’t pick his googly, am not sure if he has a left armers leg break but his back hand variations are there. He took a wicket and opened the gates. Akif Javed was bowling with impeccable control at the other hand and was troubling NZ with his bounce & out-swing, he wasn’t disturbed by the left/right combo either

And it was lovely to see Mo. Wasim again and he had zip, never easy making a comeback but he hit the deck hard and his lengths were spot on to.

Pakistan took 3 quick wickets & NZ were 132-5, in a real mess. I don’t know what happened to Riz bhai after that but a very good captain would have made sure NZ were kept under 200 when they were under immense pressure. And worse case, NZ should not have scored more than 230.

Ultimately though, the batting in the PP was also a big factor in the defeat. This is the top four in 2025 after getting the pants pulled down in the CT:

Abdullah
Imam
Babar
Rizwan

:facepalm:
 
I don't know if a brother agrees with me or not but this is not the Rizwan i became a fan of 4-5 years ago. Some brothers are good players but not meant for leadership positions and sadly i feel he might be one of them. Both him and Rizwan failed to be effective and respectable leaders. You are free to attack me for this but this is what i believe honestly. Khuda hafiz brother.
 
Again, can’t go for the kill, doesn’t know what to do with the fielders in. Chickened out with the batting today. PP’s are not being utilised. When will this clown be booted out for good?
 
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