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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Rizwan: Performance as white-ball captain and captaincy watch thread

I respect @Rana , but we both are not the same.

Even our opinions differ. He saw something about rizwan back in 2021 and disliked him since and he has his reasons.

My reasons are vastly different.

Ever since Champions one day cup, I have noticed that Rizwan has become a complete has been.

Rizwan had a purple patch in t20 in 2021 and a purple patch in odi in 2023. In this period he was decent.

However afterwards he was totally crap with the bat.

Asia cup 2022 and wc 2022 : Went with a sr of 100 and 25 avg in both cups round about.

Then throughout 2024: Hes been going at 20-30 avg and operating at an 80 to 90 SR in t20.

Infact most t20 games are being lost solely due to him as an opener in t20. For example his 70 of 60 last game. Dude left the entire team to chase 130 of 60? It's madness.

Then for England test: He only avg 19? He performed on road pitches vs bangladesh but besides babar, who didnt perform in that series? England tonked 800 on this pitch with brooks tonking 300+? The moment spicy pitches were prepared he was useless?

Then for Odi: Hes been dreadful throughout 2024?

THEIR is nothing wrong with me using this data and critiquing him on it. A captain needs to be a performer to justify his selection in the team.

I give shan massof equal flack as well and I do not give cresit to shan for England series wins when squad was decided by aqib, And sajid, Noman, Kamran and saud literally did 100% of the work while everyone else was useless.
 
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ODI series win vs Australia in Australia
1-0 up vs SA in SA

This man is something else. Let's go Kaptaana! Ayub, Agha have been great finds under his mentorship.
 
A heated argument erupted between the South African batters and Pakistan fielders during the 2nd ODI.

Rauf made a comment after the last ball, which did not sit well with Klaasen.

The umpires intervened, urging the players to move on.

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2 excellent reviews under Riz in the 2nd ODI. Very impressive.
 
One big criticism in this 2nd ODI vs SA is the fact that he hasn't used Saim.
 
Riz is spot on taking reviews tonight!

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Rizwan’s use of DRS in the PSL was often comical, raising legitimate questions about his attentiveness and ability to judge the line of the ball from behind the stumps. However, the moment he took over as Pakistan’s captain, he transformed into a DRS maestro. Calm, composed, and strategic, he waits until the last possible second to call for a review, showcasing sharp decision making under pressure.

As a captain, Rizwan has had a dream start to his tenure, leading the team with precision and poise. Today, Pakistan stands on the brink of their third consecutive ODI series victory overseas under his leadership, an incredible achievement! One can’t help but wonder why we didn’t make him captain two years ago. Here’s hoping for another memorable milestone today, InshaAllah!
 
Take this! This series victory is dedicated to all the RizBar haters. Whether it’s headache pills, burnol, or anything else to ease your pain, make sure to order it online today or head to your nearest pharmacy!
 
Wow series win in Australia and now South Africa, great captaincy by Pakistans GOAT wicket keeper.
 
Tremendous captaincy and DRS acumen.

Proven me wrong but the key is can he do it in the big boy ICC trophy games?

Let's see if he wins us an ICC trophy then Will be a legendary decision to make him captain..
 
Caved12 said:
Rizwan’s use of DRS in the PSL was often comical, raising legitimate questions about his attentiveness and ability to judge the line of the ball from behind the stumps. However, the moment he took over as Pakistan’s captain, he transformed into a DRS maestro. Calm, composed, and strategic, he waits until the last possible second to call for a review, showcasing sharp decision making under pressure.

As a captain, Rizwan has had a dream start to his tenure, leading the team with precision and poise. Today, Pakistan stands on the brink of their third consecutive ODI series victory overseas under his leadership, an incredible achievement! One can’t help but wonder why we didn’t make him captain two years ago. Here’s hoping for another memorable milestone today, InshaAllah!
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Look at this glazing.

But yeah I agree
 
Mamoon said:
Thanks to brainless selections by Aqib.
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Brother with all due respect, that's just an excuse.

Credit to rizwan for wins but if someone like saim performs or if the team loses, no need to find excuses. However yes rizwan has done well as an odi cap.
 
Updates

ODI SERIES WINS

1) Aus series wins
2) Zimbabwe series win
3) Sa series win

T20 series

1) Aus t20 series whitewash
2) Sa t20 series whitewash.

Atm hes been very solid in terms of getting results for odi but rubbish in t20.

What's your take. Cresit to rizwan or credit to Aqib? And who's responsible for t20?

@Mamoon @Rana @RidiculousMan @gazza619 @emranabbas @TheSultan @RedwoodOriginal @mango_bite77

What's your take?

Personally it's both. Aqib is killer for odi and test for selections and it's good he has chosen a 15 since he refuses to let rizwan select the 15, it's good since babar had too much power and chose rubbish.

But rizwan has been a terrific onfield captain as well.

For t20 same, Aqib has made rubbish decisions selection wise, but rizwan, babar and Agha in t20s are laughably bad and so far have been causing losses upon losses in that format.

For test it's aqib who saved shan though
 
mominsaigol said:
Updates

ODI SERIES WINS

1) Aus series wins
2) Zimbabwe series win
3) Sa series win

T20 series

1) Aus t20 series whitewash
2) Sa t20 series whitewash.

Atm hes been very solid in terms of getting results for odi but rubbish in t20.

What's your take. Cresit to rizwan or credit to Aqib? And who's responsible for t20?

@Mamoon @Rana @RidiculousMan @gazza619 @emranabbas @TheSultan @RedwoodOriginal @mango_bite77

What's your take?

Personally it's both. Aqib is killer for odi and test for selections and it's good he has chosen a 15 since he refuses to let rizwan select the 15, it's good since babar had too much power and chose rubbish.

But rizwan has been a terrific onfield captain as well.

For t20 same, Aqib has made rubbish decisions selection wise, but rizwan, babar and Agha in t20s are laughably bad and so far have been causing losses upon losses in that format.

For test it's aqib who saved shan though
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T20 team selection has been pretty poor. You can tell it from the fact that they didn't even picked Saim for Australia T20 series and had to call him for Zimbabwe and South Africa series.

Rizwan as a batter doesn't make it to T20 side let alone as captain.

Maybe the management is too focused on CT25. This whole T20 team needs to be revamped before WT20 2026.
 
RidiculousMan said:
T20 team selection has been pretty poor. You can tell it from the fact that they didn't even picked Saim for Australia T20 series and had to call him for Zimbabwe and South Africa series.

Rizwan as a batter doesn't make it to T20 side let alone as captain.

Maybe the management is too focused on CT25. This whole T20 team needs to be revamped before WT20 2026.
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I'm fine with it atm. Main focus is ct and it should be Odi.

After seeing aus and sa wins, my feeling as a pk fan is now reinvigorated.

However I maintain my stance, Abdullah + Abrar + Niazi, Get rid of em. Abrar bubble will burst soon, As for Abdullah and niazi it's already bursted.

Better to bring in sajid khan for niazi since sajid is a better batter + bowler and tournament is in pakistan and uae so his bowling is useful.

Abrar can stay but a backup spinner is needed to keep abrar on his toes.

Abdullah needs to be booted for fakhar.

Offtopic, but usman khan should vanish for Saud as I believe saud is a much better batter even if he hasn't kicked off in odi yet.

A solid technical batter whos an amazing player or spin will eventually fire in the whiteball format.
 
Don’t read too much into this.

As a white ball batter he’s a liability. If both him and Babar continue to play like today there won’t be a blinder like Ghulam innings to always save us.

When he’s a liability how can he be a captain?

True test will come at the champions trophy when full strength sides will play.

Even today SA fielded their third rate bowling attack, against whom we struggled until Ghulam came and rescued us from the statpadding of RizBar.
 
Hawkeye said:
Don’t read too much into this.

As a white ball batter he’s a liability. If both him and Babar continue to play like today there won’t be a blinder like Ghulam innings to always save us.

When he’s a liability how can he be a captain?

True test will come at the champions trophy when full strength sides will play.

Even today SA fielded their third rate bowling attack, against whom we struggled until Ghulam came and rescued us from the statpadding of RizBar.
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This 100 percent
 
Brilliant bowling changes, wins in Australia & SA on par with Wasim Akram as 3rd best pak captain.
 
mominsaigol said:
Updates

ODI SERIES WINS

1) Aus series wins
2) Zimbabwe series win
3) Sa series win

T20 series

1) Aus t20 series whitewash
2) Sa t20 series whitewash.

Atm hes been very solid in terms of getting results for odi but rubbish in t20.

What's your take. Cresit to rizwan or credit to Aqib? And who's responsible for t20?

@Mamoon @Rana @RidiculousMan @gazza619 @emranabbas @TheSultan @RedwoodOriginal @mango_bite77

What's your take?

Personally it's both. Aqib is killer for odi and test for selections and it's good he has chosen a 15 since he refuses to let rizwan select the 15, it's good since babar had too much power and chose rubbish.

But rizwan has been a terrific onfield captain as well.

For t20 same, Aqib has made rubbish decisions selection wise, but rizwan, babar and Agha in t20s are laughably bad and so far have been causing losses upon losses in that format.

For test it's aqib who saved shan though
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It’s quiet evident something has got to change in T20s. Credit to both Riz & Aqib for creating a positive team environment
 
Hawkeye said:
Don’t read too much into this.

As a white ball batter he’s a liability. If both him and Babar continue to play like today there won’t be a blinder like Ghulam innings to always save us.

When he’s a liability how can he be a captain?

True test will come at the champions trophy when full strength sides will play.

Even today SA fielded their third rate bowling attack, against whom we struggled until Ghulam came and rescued us from the statpadding of RizBar.
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So you give them no credit for laying a solid foundation. I agree that they can be too conservative and when I saw Babar trying to knock around Fortuin and Riz, struggling with Jansen but without them, we also wouldn't have won.
 
mominsaigol said:
Updates

ODI SERIES WINS

1) Aus series wins
2) Zimbabwe series win
3) Sa series win

T20 series

1) Aus t20 series whitewash
2) Sa t20 series whitewash.

Atm hes been very solid in terms of getting results for odi but rubbish in t20.

What's your take. Cresit to rizwan or credit to Aqib? And who's responsible for t20?

@Mamoon @Rana @RidiculousMan @gazza619 @emranabbas @TheSultan @RedwoodOriginal @mango_bite77

What's your take?

Personally it's both. Aqib is killer for odi and test for selections and it's good he has chosen a 15 since he refuses to let rizwan select the 15, it's good since babar had too much power and chose rubbish.

But rizwan has been a terrific onfield captain as well.

For t20 same, Aqib has made rubbish decisions selection wise, but rizwan, babar and Agha in t20s are laughably bad and so far have been causing losses upon losses in that format.

For test it's aqib who saved shan though
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I think Aqib obviously is a big difference but in ODIs Rizwan clearly has lead well. You can’t fault him, the team picks up regular wickets. They haven’t yet been torched by a proper ODI batting approach by teams like Australia and South Africa in their own conditions, so he is doing something very right.

I do believe it’s one brutal reality check and everything will be back to Babar era.

In the meanwhile, im glad we have found 3 good cricketers in Saim, Kamran and Abrar. Team will become much stronger with the inclusion of Fakhar. Hopefully Tayyab can also find a role and enhance the batting.
 
Brilliant captain.
We just tried more players in the t20s.
I've loved how Rizwan has got Abrar going. No way Babar or Shaheen could give this confidence to build up players
 
Credit to Rizwan he has won series in Australia and south Africa. Seems a perfect ODI captain .
 
Rizwan has made life difficult for many out there.

What an emphatic win over staffers. Captaincy was top-notch. The batting was superb. Those reviews were brilliant. Match-winners for me.
 
Excellent win, Rizwn the captain was brilliant, these two games a complete lumberjack for AntiRiz brigade
 
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Bewal Express said:
So you give them no credit for laying a solid foundation. I agree that they can be too conservative and when I saw Babar trying to knock around Fortuin and Riz, struggling with Jansen but without them, we also wouldn't have won.
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SA attack was 3rd tier, yet we were struggling until Ghulam came.

My point is what will happen against full strength sides of Aus/India/NZ/Eng/SA?

If we bat against them in the same way where RIZWAN and Babar aim to score 250-280 totals then we’re not going to win any tournament.

It will be a repeat of 4-5 ICC tournaments that Babar and RIZWAN have lost us in the last 5 years.

I saw no change in their approach to batting and see a repeat of the last 5 years.

But perhaps players like Saim, Fakhar and Ghulam can make a difference.
 
Hawkeye said:
SA attack was 3rd tier, yet we were struggling until Ghulam came.

My point is what will happen against full strength sides of Aus/India/NZ/Eng/SA?

If we bat against them in the same way where RIZWAN and Babar aim to score 250-280 totals then we’re not going to win any tournament.

It will be a repeat of 4-5 ICC tournaments that Babar and RIZWAN have lost us in the last 5 years.

I saw no change in their approach to batting and see a repeat of the last 5 years.

But perhaps players like Saim, Fakhar and Ghulam can make a difference.
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The Saffers were missing Rabada, the others guys are injured or just run off the mill. And when they won in Australia, I am al sure someone was missing. This is irrelevant, they played their best available team and we won. We are 5th or 6th best and that hasn't changed and until we whack Australia or Ind in a full tournament, that won't change.
 
If you watched his captaincy during psl you would know hes a good captain and will succeed in internationals
 
heddie19 said:
In white ball? considering he is yet to win a single T20i yet, that is quite substandard. Very impressive in ODIs though. I would have agreed completely had you said "ODI" not white ball. Really wishing we could defend CT with under Kaptana Rizwana.
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I will wait until t20 wc to judge Rizwan in t20s. Right now they don't care about t20s as the WC is in 2026. Now everyone is focused on odis and taking odis seriously because of ct and with odi series wins in aus and sa, king and kaptaana are on fire. Lots of salty posters wanted Rizbar to fail and pak to lose against sa...and how the tables turned!
 
FearlessRoar said:
What do you think of Mohammad Rizwan's steady fifty in the 3rd ODI against South Africa?

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His 3rd best innings in odi after sri lanka wc 131 and his previous 80.

Not counting his 2019 centuries on phattas against a c string attack.
 
FearlessRoar said:
What do you think of Mohammad Rizwan's steady fifty in the 3rd ODI against South Africa?

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But but Rizwan can’t bat at number 4 and struggles to score runs at a good strike rate.

He scored 80 off 82 balls the other day and 53 off 52 balls today. The series is won, and a possible 3-0 whitewash in South Africa’s own backyard is on the cards.
 
Caved12 said:
Kaptaana has already led his team to two monumental back to back ODI series victories in Australia and South Africa. As captain, he’s only going to improve with time and experience. This is just the beginning, abhi tou party shuru hui hai.
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Caved12 said:
Kaptaana has already led his team to two monumental back to back ODI series victories in Australia and South Africa. As captain, he’s only going to improve with time and experience. This is just the beginning, abhi tou party shuru hui hai!
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Curious if @Rana @shaz619 will accept they were wrong about King and Kaptaana? Rizwan has proven himself to be a very smart tactician.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Curious if @Rana @shaz619 will accept they were wrong about King and Kaptaana? Rizwan has proven himself to be a very smart tactician.
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Babar (the King) and Rizwan (the Kaptaana) scoring back to back fifties in this ODI series is definitely going to stir up some reactions from their haters. Just wait for the meltdown, lol!
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
I will wait until t20 wc to judge Rizwan in t20s. Right now they don't care about t20s as the WC is in 2026. Now everyone is focused on odis and taking odis seriously because of ct and with odi series wins in aus and sa, king and kaptaana are on fire. Lots of salty posters wanted Rizbar to fail and pak to lose against sa...and how the tables turned!
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Yeah T20is are not a priority rn, I agree. The team is very imbalanced and in a bad shae. SA has been unbeleivably good recently. Hoping to see him carry this form in test cricket too in the coming days :) No complains on from Rizwan either. I think Babar is still finding his touch. A century in any format will change the fortunes IA. :)
 
Rizwan should stay the captain of ODI and at certain point become the captain of Test team. But he should not be captain of T20I or even be part of the team as it's really a game for young guns who can hit big. Both Babar and Rizwan should drop out of T20 team but of course should be part of both ODI and Test team for the near future.
 
Let's just say he is better than baber and Afridi as a captain option. He is aggressive and tactical. Today I literally watched him plan the wicket tacking ball from saim and he perfectly positioned himself behind the wickets. He used Saim we and Saim did not disappoint him. He supports his bowlers well and is not a micromanager but rather offers guidance and allows the bowlers chance to gain confidence.
 
mominsaigol said:
His 3rd best innings in odi after sri lanka wc 131 and his previous 80.

Not counting his 2019 centuries on phattas against a c string attack.
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Good to show some initiative for once, but I wonder why the great deceiver has Babar batting within his shell 🤔 I hope this form will be replicated in the CT….
 
Difficult to say what his impact has been. PAK are getting smoked in T20's the same way they have been for the past 3 years. Clearly, it's an issue of personnel.

PCT was also #1 ODI side under Babar too , let's not forget.

However, if Rizwan is behind the exclusion of fake allrounders like Shadab and Nawaz and playing 7 batters and 4 bowlers, then I'll give him a lot of credit.

That 7th batter is giving a lot of depth and he's getting a lot out of part timers like Agha and Saim.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Difficult to say what his impact has been. PAK are getting smoked in T20's the same way they have been for the past 3 years. Clearly, it's an issue of personnel.

PCT was also #1 ODI side under Babar too , let's not forget.

However, if Rizwan is behind the exclusion of fake allrounders like Shadab and Nawaz and playing 7 batters and 4 bowlers, then I'll give him a lot of credit.

That 7th batter is giving a lot of depth and he's getting a lot out of part timers like Agha and Saim.
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What do you make of his last few ODI knocks and do you think he is conveniently showing some intent when Babar is getting a big Shabash for playing anchor 🤔
 
shaz619 said:
What do you make of his last few ODI knocks and do you think he is conveniently showing some intent when Babar is getting a big Shabash for playing anchor 🤔
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King is getting back to form, 2 series winning 50s in SA vs SA. Even at this lowest point King shows why he is King. There is no sinister conspiracy. Babar and Riz are two sides of the same coin, Rizzy has confirmed it before when he overtook Bobsy in the rankings. To speak of Kaptaana is to speak of the King.
 
shaz619 said:
What do you make of his last few ODI knocks and do you think he is conveniently showing some intent when Babar is getting a big Shabash for playing anchor 🤔
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Tbf, I don't think Babar and Rizwan have done too badly in ODIs. Batting has become tough because of pitches and these newer kookaburra balls. The bigger issue is Abdullah Shafique who needs to be shown the door

Rizwan is an absolute fossil in T20 cricket and should be replaced there .

In fact, in the last couple of years , I don't think there's another T20I batter,(Top 8 teams) who is a bigger match loser with the bat than Rizwan.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Tbf, I don't think Babar and Rizwan have done too badly in ODIs. Batting has become tough because of pitches and these newer kookaburra balls. The bigger issue is Abdullah Shafique who needs to be shown the door

Rizwan is an absolute fossil in T20 cricket and should be replaced there .

In fact, in the last couple of years , I don't think there's another T20I batter,(Top 8 teams) who is a bigger match loser with the bat than Rizwan.
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RizBar will definitely win an ICC tournament for Pak very soon.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yep... Whitewashing Saffers in SA is no joke... Please who are not going to acknowledge riz for that should start watching POGO

Just acknowledge him for his efforts with the bat and he was certainly the best keeper out there as well..
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I just don't appreciate his selfish nature. Can't support such a captain.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Selfish like how??? He came to open in t20s?? that's why??? I am agreeing on this as well.... he should not open
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He's not a bad captain when it comes to onfield decisons and I was wrong about him for drs as well.

He's actually been a very good captain. However unlike Younis, Sarfi and Imran Khan, the team combination will never be settled under him and pakistan will more or less be a misbah like time bomb team.

Abdullah + Babar + Rizwan + Agha + Kamran + Niazi makes for a very unstable and 1990 esc lineup. Compare that to sarfi's lineup which balanced it out with hafeez and haris sohail in the middle followed by fakhar at the top and imam+ Babar as your accumulators, very balanced lineup.

Same with YK who would shuffle his 11 depending on situation.

Atm excellent bowling, field placements + Saim is masking how weak the batting is.

Cause we have one tail ender at the top and Babar atm is literally batting like Steve smith does in odi, aka gets a few 30 to 70 scores in an accumulative way and gets out by a playing a brain dead shot.

Niazi is also useless. And kamran will eventually get exposed at no 5 since he's not a good lower order batter. Someone like saud is, Kamran can only function at top 4.
 
despite his limitatrions, riz has been the best batsman for pak in sena in tests since his debut.he averages over 40 in all countries except wi
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yep... Whitewashing Saffers in SA is no joke... Please who are not going to acknowledge riz for that should start watching POGO

Just acknowledge him for his efforts with the bat and he was certainly the best keeper out there as well..
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The disrespect to Rizwan over here thanks to a handful of posters is mind boggling. Of course he is not Gilchrist but he is a very good player who has made Pak proud on and off the field. The hate for him is not justified at all, particularly when it goes beyond cricket.
 
jamie smith said:
despite his limitatrions, riz has been the best batsman for pak in sena in tests since his debut.he averages over 40 in all countries except wi
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Thank you brother, this is a good post and we can agree. I hope you don't mind the slight banter we had a few days back.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Thank you brother, this is a good post and we can agree. I hope you don't mind the slight banter we had a few days back.
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i never said riz was not good for odis or tests,he is fine for these 2 formats but in t20s he either needs to retire or remodel his game
 
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