[VIDEOS] Shan Masood appointed as vice-captain of the ODI side for the series against New Zealand

[Concerned]

It would be good to understand on what basis does a player get made vice captain who is unable to make the playing XI?

Looking at todays line up, other than Rizwan who is batting one position too high, the VC does not even make the reserves.

 

[gazza619]

It would be good to understand on what basis does a player get made vice captain who is unable to make the playing XI?

Looking at todays line up, other than Rizwan who is batting one position too high, the VC does not even make the reserves.

When jokers become administrators, these things happen, so chillax.

 

[shamaan]

Well that part is fine. Babar doesn't need to be consulted. The management needed to be sure that the vc should have been someone who is an undeniable first team starter. Only Imam and Fakhar were worthy of this, potentially Shaheen.

Also Shadab.

 

[shamaan]

He should be back up opener

 

[MenInG]

Ramiz Raja on impact of Shan's appointment as VC

"Such an experience shouldn't happen, especially in white-ball cricket. He's been a regular vice-captain and has a great comfort level with Babar. For no reason, that comfort level was removed. I think it's a really bad decision that puts the team under pressure."

 

[Rana]

Ramiz Raja on impact of Shan's appointment as VC

"Such an experience shouldn't happen, especially in white-ball cricket. He's been a regular vice-captain and has a great comfort level with Babar. For no reason, that comfort level was removed. I think it's a really bad decision that puts the team under pressure."

Who cares if Rizwan has a comfort level with Babar? They are representing Pakistan cricket team.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Only Pakistan and South Africa could appoint players who shouldn’t be in the team as VC and Captains.

 

[Plumb]

VC couldn't make the playing 11

 

[Amjid Javed]

Only Pakistan and South Africa could appoint players who shouldn’t be in the team as VC and Captains.

South Africa don't help themselves with their selections as they have transformation quotas to fill, so yes they end up with players who shouldn't be in the team.

Pakistan has nepotism / sirfishi quotas that have to be filled, to completely different selections models. One is to do with a country wanting to give coloured players more opportunities, the other is because we'll connect people within PCB have to be kept happy.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Pathetic . First of no need to announce for three Odis and then rizwan was also available . Nepotism at its best

LoL, the Vice Captain couldn't even get into the playing 11. Shan's performance in the tests has showed no improvement. now averages 28 after 28 test matches.

While players with 45+ averages in domestic cricket watch from the sidelines, hoping for a single test match.

 

[Saj]

VC couldn't make the playing 11

Well I don't think it was Babar's decision regarding the choice of vice-captain.

I'm pretty sure he still wanted Rizwan in the role.

 

[Rana]

Well I don't think it was Babar's decision regarding the choice of vice-captain.

I'm pretty sure he still wanted Rizwan in the role.

Well, Rizwan as vc is also questionable

 

[Officer Barbrady]

I’m guessing Mickey wanted Shan in the side. Now that he’s not joining as coach wonder if that impacts Shan’s prospects in the shorter formats.

Still can’t believe Iftikhar and Saim were ignored in the 26 probables and Shan got picked.

 

[alishahid]

Shan will be made captain of the odi side, sarfaraz ahmed captain of the test side and babar to continue as captain of the t20 side. I am pretty sure this will be announced soon.

 

[Savak]

Shan will be made captain of the odi side, sarfaraz ahmed captain of the test side and babar to continue as captain of the t20 side. I am pretty sure this will be announced soon.

Limited overs side should have one captain, no sense to have two different ODI and T-20 captains.

 

[MenInG]

Ramiz Raja speaking about this:


“When the vice-captain is benched, especially when he is the opener, it puts the openers under pressure. Similarly, Rizwan has been under pressure. He has to prove himself every time. He dropped a catch because of that pressure."

 

[Rana]

Ramiz Raja speaking about this:


“When the vice-captain is benched, especially when he is the opener, it puts the openers under pressure. Similarly, Rizwan has been under pressure. He has to prove himself every time. He dropped a catch because of that pressure."

Why is Ramiz constantly defending Rizwan? And why is Ramiz so against putting pressure on players?? What are we supposed to do? Just let undeserving guys play without any accountability?

 

[MenInG]

And the change is made to the Pakistan line-up to bring him in.

 

[Rana]

Shan
Rizwan

two kings of nepotism

 

[Amjid Javed]

And the change is made to the Pakistan line-up to bring him in.

Excellent move, that 2 ball duck was worth it.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

He's just not good enough, he can score all the runs he likes in domestic cricket, it won't change that reality

 

[sam_ahm]

There are bad decisions and then there are shameless decisions, this one to bring shan masood in for Imam who averages above 50 in the format was a shameless one.

Desperate attempt to keep shan in all three formats and hope he clicks in at least one of them which will help them to justify his place in all formats. Sadly for those people, Shan can't buy a run to save his life in any format.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I'm sure Shan senior and PCB chairmen enjoyed that masterclass 2 ball inns.

 

[angrypathan]

O captain my captain

 

[asfandyar]

A performing parchi is better than a non-performing parchi.

 

[Rana]

Who are the bowlers he smashes in county cricket??

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

honestly its an insult to Shadab as well that Masood has come in out of nowhere. Shadab has shown in PSL that can can captain a Team. In contrast Multan won the title after binning Shan

 

[gazza619]

Thank you Najam Sethi & Shahid Afridi.

 

[MenInG]

Thank you Najam Sethi & Shahid Afridi.

Think with General Elections coming soon, this could all be history.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Shan was thrown to the wolves here by Sethi and co.

He should have been given a few matches to see if he was able to score and then announced as VC.

First he was imposed on the team, then Babar embarrassed him, now he has embarrassed himself and the new regime.

He has the opportunity for a lucrative county career, can be the face for Yorkshires restoration ( which will give him massive media goodwill) and can retire gracefully to the commentary box.

He should snatch this opportunity and quietly retire from international.

 

[Rana]

Thank you Najam Sethi & Shahid Afridi.

Thank you Muhammad Waseem as well for especially inviting him to play the T20 cup and fastracking him back into the national side in the first place!

The blood is on Waseem's hands too!!!

 

[Kianig89]

The vice captain coveted vice captain from death Valley

 

[gazza619]

Think with General Elections coming soon, this could all be history.

True, hence Mickey Arthur declined the role.

 

[Kianig89]

Finally Shan saga is over

 

[Kianig89]

So Pakistan batting with 10 man

 

[gazza619]

Thank you Muhammad Waseem as well for especially inviting him to play the T20 cup and fastracking him back into the national side in the first place!

The blood is on Waseem's hands too!!!

Lol!!!! Good one.

Sethi & Boom Boom had the chance to get things right. They made it worse by making Shan the vice captain. How dumb is that.

 

[MenInG]

The Shan dismissal.

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[anakwalajinn]

Shan
Rizwan

two kings of nepotism

Who is Rizwan related to in the set up?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

The Shan dismissal.

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Another dubious decision. Sound away from the bat ?.

Pakistani Lara can feel mystified today

 

[Amjid Javed]

The Shan dismissal.

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Shan should retire from trying to play cricket and take up fishing.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Another dubious decision. Sound away from the bat ?.

Pakistani Lara can feel mystified today

Watching it live, it looked out. But the frame where the spike is comes after it's past the bat so was bat brushing pad.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

He was given his fair share of chances since the England series. And he failed to make use of even a single one. If he had played even one innings of note you could try to justify his place in the squad. But his run of form has been absolutely terrible.

Should turn his focus to a future career in commentary. Now that's something he could thrive at. Especially considering how low the bar for good commentators is in Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

He was given his fair share of chances since the England series. And he failed to make use of even a single one. If he had played even one innings of note you could try to justify his place in the squad. But his run of form has been absolutely terrible.

Should turn his focus to a future career in commentary. Now that's something he could thrive at. Especially considering how low the bar for good commentators is in Pakistan.

Delusional people who knew nothing about cricket wanted him to be Test captain. Hilarious. I’m glad they have seen the light now.

It is baffling to think that there were people in 2022-23 who thought Masood would come good. He never was, isn’t & never will be good enough for this level.

 

[Rana]

Delusional people who knew nothing about cricket wanted him to be Test captain. Hilarious. I’m glad they have seen the light now.

It is baffling to think that there were people in 2022-23 who thought Masood would come good. He never was, isn’t & never will be good enough for this level.

Oh yes I remember Redwood bhai saying he should be Test captain because having an articulate captain is a positive

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The Shan dismissal.

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The whole test series (against Aus/Eng/NZ), T20I series and this ODI series; the Pakistani umpires have been trigger happy to raise fingers against Pak batters...

But this was not out

Shan, just retire man! Play T20 leagues and make some money.

 

[Loralai]

Now that he has been recalled he should be given an extended run in the side - you can't simply drop someone after just one ODI after three years. We need to show a bit of consistency with selection.

 

[shujaatraza]

Delusional people who knew nothing about cricket wanted him to be Test captain. Hilarious. I’m glad they have seen the light now.

It is baffling to think that there were people in 2022-23 who thought Masood would come good. He never was, isn’t & never will be good enough for this level.

Question is why is the best chairman in the history promoting Shan Masood so much?

 

[shariqnoor]

I don't know how anyone can dispute Shan's dismissal. It's clearly out.

Maybe the confusion is because of FPS (Frames per second). The snick comes up when the ball passes the bat but you also have to see that the snick is showing up on the extreme left side of the snickometer which suggests that the point of impact was a few frames before. So if the impact was a few frames before then the ball will also be a few frames before and it would align with the ball hitting the bat. There is no doubt here. It's clearly out.

 

[Saj]

I don't know how anyone can dispute Shan's dismissal. It's clearly out.

Clear edge and awful umpiring once again from Aleem Dar.

 

[MenInG]

Delusional people who knew nothing about cricket wanted him to be Test captain. Hilarious. I’m glad they have seen the light now.

It is baffling to think that there were people in 2022-23 who thought Masood would come good. He never was, isn’t & never will be good enough for this level.

Najam Sethi appointed him as VC - those delusional people didnt. Any idea why that would be?

 

[gazza619]

Yay! Our hero takes a catch.

 

[MenInG]

Yay! Our hero takes a catch.

Video of the catch

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[Rana]

Video of the catch

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Vice Kaptaan mera dildaar hai

Bus thora sa bekaar hai

 

[Saj]

Looking at the Pakistan side on the field, it looks like it's Rizwan who is advising Babar and playing the role of vice-captain out there.

 

[ArabKnight]

So he got a duck. Has not scored in ODIs for 4 years.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Video of the catch

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Pakistan's Jonty Rhodes!

 

[Asif321]

Can’t see this guy anymore . Such a torture and nauseating

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Delusional people who knew nothing about cricket wanted him to be Test captain. Hilarious. I’m glad they have seen the light now.

It is baffling to think that there were people in 2022-23 who thought Masood would come good. He never was, isn’t & never will be good enough for this level.

I said he should be given a chance a proper chance and if it doesn't work out, drop him. And atleast I have the guts to admit when I was wrong. Unlike you who has had to eat humble pie all series for the laughable things he said about Naseem Shah.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Oh yes I remember Redwood bhai saying he should be Test captain because having an articulate captain is a positive

Could be worse. Could've spent 3 years of my life obsessively hoping for the failure of one player.

 

[Rana]

Could be worse. Could've spent 3 years of my life obsessively hoping for the failure of one player.

But he has been a failure throughout.

 

[Maher96]

Total joke, another series is lost at home.

Vice captain made nobody proud. Another masterclass at how not to bat.

 

[Mamoon]

I said he should be given a chance a proper chance and if it doesn't work out, drop him. And atleast I have the guts to admit when I was wrong. Unlike you who has had to eat humble pie all series for the laughable things he said about Naseem Shah.

There was no need of giving him a “proper chance” because it was already an established fact that he is not good enough.

The six consecutive failures after the century in England & the average of 2.50 in NZ should have been the end of his career.

So anyone who thought he deserved a proper chance in 2022-23 & thought he could come good & become the Test captain was delusional.

As far Naseem is concerned, his Test numbers are awful. Embarrassing. The white ball drama will end in tears too. Like Rauf, he is not the bowler his fans think he is.

 

[MenInG]

Stay on topic. Title is about Shan

 

[Saj]

To me it seemed like vice-captain only by name, with Mohammad Rizwan supporting the skipper most of the time in making key decisions.

Maybe I'm wrong but I didn't see Shan being invited to help in the decision making whilst Pakistan were fielding.

 

[MenInG]

Shahid Afridi in an interview:

"Shan Masood should not have been named as vice-captain of the ODI squad. Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have taken captain or chief selector under confidence; he was neither under consideration by me nor by Babar Azam for the first two ODI's against New Zealand"

"Shan Masood cannot be named as captain or vice-captain of the Pakistan Cricket Team based on his performances for Derbyshire"

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Shahid Afridi in an interview:

"Shan Masood should not have been named as vice-captain of the ODI squad. Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have taken captain or chief selector under confidence; he was neither under consideration by me nor by Babar Azam for the first two ODI's against New Zealand"

"Shan Masood cannot be named as captain or vice-captain of the Pakistan Cricket Team based on his performances for Derbyshire"

Good Afridi came out to say this.. Big slap on Najam Sethi's face..

 

[Saj]

So based on what Afridi's saying Shan was picked as vice captain by the Chairman and his associates.

That's Pakistan cricket for you.

 

[MenInG]

So based on what Afridi's saying Shan was picked as vice captain by the Chairman and his associates.

That's Pakistan cricket for you.

The Chairman has stated many times that he is not a cricketer or knows about cricket and that he will leave it to the experts - so the question is, which experts advised him to do this?

 

[Double Trouble]

Experts high up in politics

 

[Khurram1989]

So now afridi has told us it was sethi and his lot who appointed Shan as Vice captain and how he thought it was the incorrect call, guess this does this mean Afridi won’t be coming back as chairman of selectors again in the future.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Shahid Afridi in an interview:

"Shan Masood should not have been named as vice-captain of the ODI squad. Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have taken captain or chief selector under confidence; he was neither under consideration by me nor by Babar Azam for the first two ODI's against New Zealand"

"Shan Masood cannot be named as captain or vice-captain of the Pakistan Cricket Team based on his performances for Derbyshire"

So as expected this just shows what everyone knew that Shan Is a political pick and probably also causing further friction in an already broken dressing room.

 

[Concerned]

But was he selected in the ODI based on Derbyshire performances?

 

[Amjid Javed]

So based on what Afridi's saying Shan was picked as vice captain by the Chairman and his associates.

That's Pakistan cricket for you.

Everyone knew that this always the case nepotism is more prevalent in Pakistani cricket then it is anywhere else in the world.

 

[Hawkeye]

Shahid Afridi in an interview:

"Shan Masood should not have been named as vice-captain of the ODI squad. Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have taken captain or chief selector under confidence; he was neither under consideration by me nor by Babar Azam for the first two ODI's against New Zealand"

"Shan Masood cannot be named as captain or vice-captain of the Pakistan Cricket Team based on his performances for Derbyshire"

Only Afridi can be bold enough to say this publicly.

Good on him, super appreciate his honesty and bluntness. You can call him whatever you want but he's always been a bold, honest character.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] It's getting difficult to keep on backing Sethi.

 

[Suleiman]

Shahid Afridi in an interview:

"Shan Masood should not have been named as vice-captain of the ODI squad. Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) should have taken captain or chief selector under confidence; he was neither under consideration by me nor by Babar Azam for the first two ODI's against New Zealand"

"Shan Masood cannot be named as captain or vice-captain of the Pakistan Cricket Team based on his performances for Derbyshire"

This is why I backed him as chief selector too. Yes, everyone has favorites, we may or may not have seen Shehzad again. But that aside he chose players worthy of a place in the team, and I suspect Shan’s selection was forced by outside influence. His statements strongly hint at that.

Sethi making nonsense moves. I fear he too has fallen for the “Shan should be captain / vc because English” which is the dumbest reason to make anyone captain and continue with some old fashioned colonial bootlicking.

 

[Rana]

Not that I agree with this appointment of Shan or his inclusion into the ODI side for his performances with Derbyshire

But it’s ironic to see people have an issue with all of this now especially considering Pakistan appointed someone who played 10 Tests as their captain when Babar was injured against NZ in 2019, his performances as an impressive captain were with KPK or whoever lesser team he was representing (below county standard).

Why all the hoo haa now?

 

[zaidihusain]

Only Afridi can be bold enough to say this publicly.

Good on him, super appreciate his honesty and bluntness. You can call him whatever you want but he's always been a bold, honest character.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] It's getting difficult to keep on backing Sethi.

I wish Afridi has shown similar honesty and bluntness in assesment of his own career

 

[JattMaula]

Only Afridi can be bold enough to say this publicly.

Good on him, super appreciate his honesty and bluntness. You can call him whatever you want but he's always been a bold, honest character.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] It's getting difficult to keep on backing Sethi.

This is why I backed him as chief selector too. Yes, everyone has favorites, we may or may not have seen Shehzad again. But that aside he chose players worthy of a place in the team, and I suspect Shan’s selection was forced by outside influence. His statements strongly hint at that.

Sethi making nonsense moves. I fear he too has fallen for the “Shan should be captain / vc because English” which is the dumbest reason to make anyone captain and continue with some old fashioned colonial bootlicking.

Lala is an honest man. People keep doubting him but he keeps booming along.

 

[MenInG]

Ramiz on his YT:

"They apply source on other players like this as if what we say to our player, he has to do it at any cost"

"The head coach of Pakistan received multiple calls when vice-captain Shan Masood was benched for two matches against New Zealand. The head coach and captain were forced to make Shan Masood play"

"We have a chairman now who has no background related to cricket; he only comes, attends the meeting, clicks some photos post on Twitter, and lastly hands over ICC trophies to Babar, that's it"

 

[MenInG]

Najam Sethi explaining the Shan Masood VC decision in an interview:

"I saw that the selection committee of the series consisting of the captain and the coaches did not include him in the playing eleven of the first match. The team management knew the situation better, so there was no such thing"

"If the selectors are conflicted, they can defend their decisions, the media rains on them and also asks questions. I said that since there will be cricket questions, I don't need to sit with you, you guys have selected the players and made the decisions, so answer them yourself"

"I think that my decision was also right and after that if Shan was not included in the initial matches, it was the decision of the team management, which was right or not, only the observers can tell"