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Virat Kohli versus Steve Smith - Tests

This is why our win against Australia in Australia has a question mark over it because Smith didn't play in that series. And that is what I was trying to explain to some experts here. Aus looks completely different when Smith is playing for them. :inti
 
No one has called him a rubbish test player. So stop getting hurt. Everyone agrees he's the 2nd best test batsmen after Smith but some fans are having difficulties digesting that fact. Smith is comfortably the best test batsmen.

I disagree that Kohli is 2nd best. After Smith, it is Williamson, he won a series against Pakistan in UAE by scoring 2 brilliant centuries from hopeless situations. Kohli scores a lot of runs, but he hasn't been able to win test matches abroad, and top of it his delusional attitude where a 4-1 defeat to England is defined in terms of 'this is the best Indian side'.
 
This is why our win against Australia in Australia has a question mark over it because Smith didn't play in that series. And that is what I was trying to explain to some experts here. Aus looks completely different when Smith is playing for them. :inti

Anyone who can't see that India was massively lucky to win that test series against Australia with no Warner and Smith, is a delusional fan, just like our delusional captain and coach.
 
I disagree that Kohli is 2nd best. After Smith, it is Williamson, he won a series against Pakistan in UAE by scoring 2 brilliant centuries from hopeless situations. Kohli scores a lot of runs, but he hasn't been able to win test matches abroad, and top of it his delusional attitude where a 4-1 defeat to England is defined in terms of 'this is the best Indian side'.

Kohli should have resigned from captaincy himself. It seems he doesn't want India to win next 3 World Cups as well. :inti
 
Anyone who can't see that India was massively lucky to win that test series against Australia with no Warner and Smith, is a delusional fan, just like our delusional captain and coach.

india also dint play 2 of their best openers for the first 2 games. Shaw and Mayank dint play. **** with all that rubbish about not having smith and warner. india had walking wickets like Rahul and dhawan opening.
virat cost india the England series with his awful selections.

anyway i dont see why there is no mention about an absolute prime australian side beating an under strength indian side in 04 away from home? No one discredits that aussie win because india are difficult to beat at home regardless whether they missed key players or not.
 
india also dint play 2 of their best openers for the first 2 games. Shaw and Mayank dint play. **** with all that rubbish about not having smith and warner. india had walking wickets like Rahul and dhawan opening.
virat cost india the England series with his awful selections.

anyway i dont see why there is no mention about an absolute prime australian side beating an under strength indian side in 04 away from home? No one discredits that aussie win because india are difficult to beat at home regardless whether they missed key players or not.
Well said. Those discrediting Indian win probably forget that Indian team for that tour wasn't good itself. Batting comprised of just 2 batsmen, Kohli & Pujara. Bowling had greenhorns all along.
 
I disagree that Kohli is 2nd best. After Smith, it is Williamson, he won a series against Pakistan in UAE by scoring 2 brilliant centuries from hopeless situations. Kohli scores a lot of runs, but he hasn't been able to win test matches abroad, and top of it his delusional attitude where a 4-1 defeat to England is defined in terms of 'this is the best Indian side'.

Huge fan of his, but Williamson hasn't been good enough in England or India (two of the better sides in Test cricket). Performing against a weak PAK side with Hasan Ali, newbie Shaheen Afridi, Yasir Shah, and Bilal Asif doesn't cut it.
 
I disagree that Kohli is 2nd best. After Smith, it is Williamson, he won a series against Pakistan in UAE by scoring 2 brilliant centuries from hopeless situations. Kohli scores a lot of runs, but he hasn't been able to win test matches abroad, and top of it his delusional attitude where a 4-1 defeat to England is defined in terms of 'this is the best Indian side'.

Well said. Even in Indian team alone Pujara is a better test batsman than Kohli and his batting actually won India important matches and series like India vs Aus (home), Ind vs Aus (away), Ind vs SL (away). I would 100/100 times take Pujara over Kohli in tests. Kohli can has his swag and fan following but i need victories.
 
No comparison in tests at all. Smith is a monster player in tests. But I'd like to see how long he can keep this up.
 
The comparisons between Virat Kohli and Steve Smith have become part and parcel of any cricket discussion at this point and with the Australia batsmen finding his form once again in the ongoing Ashes series, the debate surrounding the title of the best batsman in the world has reignited. The battle is clear in the rankings as well as Smith is once again in the second spot when it comes to Test batsmen despite missing a year due to ban.

While Kohli prepares to make the most of his opportunity against West Indies, let’s say not a top quality attack, in the Caribbean, Smith is making his way up the charts and is now just nine points behind Kohli. Smith has overtaken New Zealand skipper Kane Williamson and is now breathing down Kohli’s neck.

Former Pakistan fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar weighed in on the comparison but he was clear not to take sides. He said that statistics speak for Kohli but he also hopes that Smith will be able to sustain his brilliant run of form.

“Kohli’s stats speak for himself. But Smith is a very big player and hope he can sustain it for long. But over the past nine years, Kohli’s determination and will to succeed has taken him far. He is a stylish and charismatic player and forms a complete package,” the 44-year-old Akhtar was quoted as saying in his official Youtube Channel.

Although Kohli and Smith won’t be playing against each other, there race to the top in this particular list will begin on Thursday – the day when India play their first Test against West Indies and Australia take on England in the third Ashes Test. Both superstars of the current generation will look to get the better of each other despite being poles apart geographically.

Since 2015, Kohli is the third-highest run-getter in Test cricket, behind Joe Root and Smith. However, it must be noted that Root has played 113 innings during this period while Smith and Kohli have played 72 and 74 innings respectively.

Despite playing less number of innings than Root, both Smith and Kohli are ranked above England captain in the list of most centuries scored since 2015. Smith leads the way with 18 tons – two of which came in the first Ashes Test – while Kohli is just two behind the Australian superstar. The third cricketer on this list is India’s middle-order maestro Cheteshwar Pujara.

In the upcoming two-match Test series, Kohli will get his chance to dethrone Smith from the top of this illustrious list. As for Smith, he will look to continue his run-scoring spree despite being on the wrong side of scary bowling of England’s Jofra Archer.

https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricke...r-weighs-in/story-rrQkM6kMvXvHWmCCo99bLI.html
 
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Kohli is on par with the likes of Williamson. Smith is peerless in tests, first batsman since Bradman to have no competition.
 
In tests is there even a big 4?

There's Smith who's miles ahead of anyone
Kohli and Williamson who both play epic captains inns and also pull off shockingly damp squib series every now and then

Root who is going through mid career crisis whose numbers are dropping faster than Canadian winter temperatures
 
The upcoming Australia tour should have some answers.

Smith is so much ahead in tests that one tour can't change anything.
It just like Kohli is so much ahead in ODI's, it's not because Smith is going to outperform him in a series that will make Smith better.
 
Kohli is better overall. Far better but if Kohli stops focusing on T20 he would be ahead of Smith even in tests.
 
Kohli is the hot flavour of the month but how does he stack up against Steve Smith in Test Cricket. Discuss.
 
Smith is greatest of this generation with only root challenging him by the end of his career.
But smith is way too clutch

Virat had his moments but he just had an okayish career overall. Ending his career with 46 avg is way too low even by his standards. He underavhieved in tests big time.
He s way below as test bat than even younis however kohli was much more complete bat. He needs to be studied what went erong after 2020.
 
Smith the test player seems to cause Indians severe trauma..they try to shoehorn inferior players like Sachin and Kohli against him. The comparison just doesn't work.
 
Root scored almost 17 to 18 centuries in the period where kohli struggled. He has surpassed kohli.
 
Smith the test player seems to cause Indians severe trauma..they try to shoehorn inferior players like Sachin and Kohli against him. The comparison just doesn't work.
Yea, the 'inferior' Sachin reached 10,000 Test runs in 195 innings. While the 'superior' Smith reached 10,000 Test runs in 205 innings.

The 'superior' one took a mere 10 more innings to reach 10,000 Test runs than the 'inferior' one. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Yea, the 'inferior' Sachin reached 10,000 Test runs in 195 innings. While the 'superior' Smith reached 10,000 Test runs in 205 innings.

The 'superior' one took a mere 10 more innings to reach 10,000 Test runs than the 'inferior' one. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Tbf that metric is a bit flawed since each test match is different.

However yes, even since Steve Smith's form slump where he's been avg 33 and only just recently came back, Sachin is ahead by juat a bit.

I'm a huge fan of Steve Smith and I believe he was > Sachin but Sachin is ahead ever since his form slump.

In the past 2 years root has been better then smith in test.
 
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