Was Babar Azam dismissed on a no-ball in Pakistan's Super 4 clash against India?

[Firebat]

Captain Babar chipped it straight to short mid-wicket off the bowling of leg-spinner Ravi Bishnoi, but there was a very close no-ball call.

Strangely they did not manage to use the camera angle that looks exactly down the line to judge the no-ball, but instead a slightly skewed one along with the stump cam (seen below).

Was it the right decision to let the wicket stand or was Babar hard done by?

 

[Shaddy86]

It wasn't a no ball. The camera angle they used was conclusive enough. Some part of his foot landed behind the line.

 

[Bewal Express]

No

 

[Slim]

Nope, all good!

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

There was enough behind the line

 

[ElRaja]

was clearly a legal delivery. unless you missed the delivery live I don't see how this can even be a question.

 

[The_KING]

Nope, wasn't a no ball.

 

[IAJ]

On the first replay it looked like a no-ball, but from a different angle he was behind the line, so it was a legal delivery, no worries.

I was more concerned about the time third umpire took when India reviewd for a cath behind of Asif Ali.

 

[Marooned]

The side angle looked fine to me.

 

[RexRex]

I was more concerned about the time third umpire took when India reviewd for a cath behind of Asif Ali.

Ali was out .. there was a slight murmur on the line. We all saw it.

 

[Slim]

Ali was out .. there was a slight murmur on the line. We all saw it.

LOL, are you kidding me? Did you see the gap between his hand and the ball? Terrible take from your end. It was a clear not out.

 

[IAJ]

Ali was out .. there was a slight murmur on the line. We all saw it.

LOL, that 'murmur' you see many times. Once there is a contact you see clear spikes. Those could have been airish sound, so no big deal.

 

[slice]

that murmur wasnt characteristic of an edge.Edges give rather localized peaks.This I guess was the whiff of air from the swing.It was very spread out.

 

[IAJ]

And I didn't want to post this but the poster above (RexRex which I believe is Indian?) forced me;

Pakistanis clearly saying Babar was out on a legal delivery and here comes one Indian and instantly saying Asif was out... The difference...

 

[RexRex]

LOL, are you kidding me? Did you see the gap between his hand and the ball? Terrible take from your end. It was a clear not out.

I didn't see any definitive gap .. the visuals were not that clear to make out for you or me.

 

[IAJ]

I didn't see any definitive gap .. the visuals were not that clear to make out for you or me.

Why did you then say Asif was out, if you are not sure?

 

[RexRex]

And I didn't want to post this but the poster above (RexRex which I believe is Indian?) forced me;

Pakistanis clearly saying Babar was out on a legal delivery and here comes one Indian and instantly saying Asif was out... The difference...

Are you saying us indians are a dishonest bunch lol ?

 

[IAJ]

Are you saying us indians are a dishonest bunch lol ?

I said what I said. And I have seen that over the years here at PP, so I stand by that

But good you changed your mind on Asif Ali incident.

 

[RexRex]

Why did you then say Asif was out, if you are not sure?

Video wasn't clear, but the snickometer was. But hey .. if you think the peaks weren't high enough, I don't think there is an ICC threshold for how high the peaks should be. A different third umpire might have given it out, you never know

 

[KingKhanWC]

Even from photo in OP its clear something landed behind the line. Remember its not where the foot ends up but where it lands.

Not sure why some bowlers dont wear trainers/shoes which have a very long heel.

 

[Slim]

I didn't see any definitive gap .. the visuals were not that clear to make out for you or me.

If you didnt see any "definitive gap" that doesnt mean there was no gap. The on field umpire gave not out, the third umpire gave it not out as well. The murmur you spoke about was so tiny that it is usually attributed to whiff of air. Man, i cant believe i am explaining this to someone. That decision was clear as daylight. The delay was rather astonishing.

 

[PakLFC]

It was a legit ball. A part of his foot was behind the ball no doubt about it. Had it been a Pak bowler we would have all insisted it was a legit delivery.

 

[Slim]

It was a legit ball. A part of his foot was behind the ball no doubt about it. Had it been a Pak bowler we would have all insisted it was a legit delivery.

Everyone is calling it a legit delivery. What are you on about?

 

[PakLFC]

It was a legit ball. A part of his foot was behind the ball no doubt about it. Had it been a Pak bowler we would have all insisted it was a legit deliver

 

[PakLFC]

Everyone is calling it a legit delivery. What are you on about?

I am answering the question of this thread too.

 

[Savak]

His poor form is worrying. India has done their homework by keeping fielders in his strong scoring areas.

 

[Slim]

I am answering the question of this thread too.

What was the need of this particular part of your reply then? "Had it been a Pak bowler we would have all insisted it was a legit deliver"

Surely not just answering the question here, making a virtue signal for no reason.

 

[PakLFC]

What was the need of this particular part of your reply then? "Had it been a Pak bowler we would have all insisted it was a legit deliver"

Surely not just answering the question here, making a virtue signal for no reason.

The signal is that as fans we should be fair and honest like most are. I did not accuse anyone of saying it was not a legit delivery. You are seeing and imagining things.

 

[Slim]

The signal is that as fans we should be fair and honest like most are. I did not accuse anyone of saying it was not a legit delivery. You are seeing and imagining things.

All fans here have been fair and honest. My question again is what was the need for the virtue signal? Needless.

 

[PakLFC]

All fans here have been fair and honest. My question again is what was the need for the virtue signal? Needless.

Once again where did I say that anyone on this thread said it was a no ball?

 

[Usman Chadda]

His poor form is worrying. India has done their homework by keeping fielders in his strong scoring areas.

All three dismissals have been soft. He has looked better than Rizwan in the initial stages, only to throw his wicket away to a misjudged shot.

He will obviously come good eventually, the man is a run machine. Pakistan have run India close in one game and beaten them today, despite our best batsman getting out cheaply.

 

[moghul]

Captain Babar chipped it straight to short mid-wicket off the bowling of leg-spinner Ravi Bishnoi, but there was a very close no-ball call.

Strangely they did not manage to use the camera angle that looks exactly down the line to judge the no-ball, but instead a slightly skewed one along with the stump cam (seen below).

Was it the right decision to let the wicket stand or was Babar hard done by?

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It was NOT a no ball.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Clearly behind the line!. Hardly Ajmal v Tendulkar but nearly one with the 'murmur' today that was an uncalled no-.ball amid the farce.

Good job that umpire's not a doc

 

[shobiii]

It was a legit delivery.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think it was okay. Not a no-ball.

 

[Usman]

This third umpire is a rather odd character.

I know everyone is saying here conclusively that this is not a no ball, based largely on the still image in the opening post, but when this was live, the next fame suggested that the foot may not have landed until that frame (in which case it would have been a no ball as the heel was past the line). However, the third umpire spent virtually no time on this, didn’t examine all the angles and made a quick snap judgment. I’m not saying this definitely was a no ball, but I also can’t say it definitely wasn’t.

Contrast that with the Asif Ali dismissal which was so clearly not out, and yet the third umpire took 5 x as much time he should have taken to conclude it was not out.

Very odd umpiring and I’m afraid it speaks to a lack of competency.

 

[shamaan]

Yes it was the right decision.

 

[produke]

This third umpire is a rather odd character.

I know everyone is saying here conclusively that this is not a no ball, based largely on the still image in the opening post, but when this was live, the next fame suggested that the foot may not have landed until that frame (in which case it would have been a no ball as the heel was past the line). However, the third umpire spent virtually no time on this, didn’t examine all the angles and made a quick snap judgment. I’m not saying this definitely was a no ball, but I also can’t say it definitely wasn’t.

Contrast that with the Asif Ali dismissal which was so clearly not out, and yet the third umpire took 5 x as much time he should have taken to conclude it was not out.

Very odd umpiring and I’m afraid it speaks to a lack of competency.

This

 

[reversehook]

Ali was out .. there was a slight murmur on the line. We all saw it.

That was done as a gimmie for the indian fans to have something to itch about to lessen the pain of the defeat...