"We are lacking a bit of pace and that is a genetic thing" : Ottis Gibson

[MenInG]

Bangladesh bowling coach speaking to the media:

"We have to be a bit more consistent and when we are not creating many chances, then we have to take the chances when we do create them; we had a nick that we didnt appeal for, then a dropped catch which could have made a difference perhaps"

"Pakistan have a little more pace than what we have, they bowled more accurate than we did but Babar Azam is a world-class batsman and you can't give him a chance; He got a chance on 4 and he punished us"

"Pakistan are playing at home and they understand their conditions better"

"We are lacking a bit of pace and that is a genetic thing and there is nothing you can do about it; If a guy can bowl only 130KpH and he has other skills like we saw from some of our bowlers then that's OK, but when we go away from home thats where the challenges are"

"Pakistan obviously has got more pace than we have, Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled well yesterday, Mohammad Abbas wont give you much to score off, the youngster (Naseem) bowled with a lot of pace but went for a few runs"

"Our batsmen got 30-40s, your (Pakistan) batsmen got two hundreds - OK?"

 

[MenInG]

So is he saying that genetics will never allow Bangladesh to produce decent speed-merchants?

 

[Sher Khan]

So is he saying that genetics will never allow Bangladesh to produce decent speed-merchants?

Not a good statement by him. Not something aspiring Bangladeshi fast bowlers would want to hear.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Weird thing from a coach to say.

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

He clearly means that pace is something that you're born with, not that bangladeshi DNA s incapable of producing fast bowlers. Should've been more clear.

 

[AFM]

So is he saying that genetics will never allow Bangladesh to produce decent speed-merchants?

No he is saying the current bowlers in the squad cannot bowl as fast as the current Pakistani ones. He is saying is pace is a genetic trait - you are either born with it or not. So instead of focusing on pace, as a coach, he is saying to work on other aspects of bowling.

 

[andy0204]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] your thoughts.

 

[MenInG]

No he is saying the current bowlers in the squad cannot bowl as fast as the current Pakistani ones. He is saying is pace is a genetic trait - you are either born with it or not. So instead of focusing on pace, as a coach, he is saying to work on other aspects of bowling.

Thanks - that makes more sense but you can see how easily it can be misconstrued.

 

[Titan24]

Thats not the kind of excuse you want to hear from your bowling coach. Rubel can bowl upto 140s is while Ebabdat can be around 135+ and at the same time there are few youngsters who can ball at decent speed. Also if speed was the only issue why Mustafiz who can ball 135+ is out of the team or why didnt he asked for Taskin Ahmed.

It all comes down to skills which needs to be developed. Pace is important but is useless without other skills.

 

[sweep_shot]

He is 100% right.

Bangladeshis aren't meant for fast bowling. We should always focus on line and length.

I can't say about future BD generations but present generation and past generation should forget about pace.

 

[warcry]

coach's words translated :
racial inferiority . malnourished bengalis no match for pathan/punjabi/sindhi physicality

 

[sweep_shot]

coach's words translated :
racial inferiority . malnourished bengalis no match for pathan/punjabi/sindhi physicality

Malnourished is not the right word. It is more like a combination of bad diet and lack of discipline.

Also, Karachi folks aren't exactly physically imposing. Only Pathans (and occasionally Punjabis) are.

 

[Bigboii]

He is 100% right.

Bangladeshis aren't meant for fast bowling. We should always focus on line and length.

I can't say about future BD generations but present generation and past generation should forget about pace.

Same thing was said about India but look at tham know so I don't believe in genetic thing it's load of B

 

[Markhor]

Is that Otis Gibson or Yahya Khan ?

 

[Bigboii]

Malnourished is not the right word. It is more like a combination of bad diet and lack of discipline.

Also, Karachi folks aren't exactly physically imposing. Only Pathans (and occasionally Punjabis) are.

Muhammad sami had more skills than shoaib akhter and he himself said it
Mohammed hasnain is taller than both musa and naseem so this thing is more of a individual thing rather than one ethnicity vs another

 

[RickyG]

Malnourished is not the right word. It is more like a combination of bad diet and lack of discipline.

Also, Karachi folks aren't exactly physically imposing. Only Pathans (and occasionally Punjabis) are.

That’s not true. There’s a lot of tall folks from Karachi that are neither Pathan nor Punjabi but are big guys.

Every man in my extended family (as far as parents first cousins and my first cousins) is over 6ft bar 3 exceptions. And some of them are tall with very dense bone structure so they are big people.

We’re North Indians by ethnicity though. Karachi’s average height might be less than northern Punjab or KPK but they’re still bigger than the average Bengali. I’ve only met one Bengali that was taller than me but he wasn’t at all athletic.

 

[The Googly]

Unfortunately he is right. Genetics is a factor. Certain races are generally small. Bengalis. Japanese. Indians outside Punjab. Chinese.

Stats will show this is a fact.

 

[Bigboii]

Unfortunately he is right. Genetics is a factor. Certain races are generally small. Bengalis. Japanese. Indians outside Punjab. Chinese.

Stats will show this is a fact.

Maybe in terms of hieght but pace wise I don't think a ethnicity makes a difference

 

[ElRaja]

weird thing to say.

mortaza could bowl up to 140 if i remember right. real problem is Bangladeshi domestic pitches promote spin, and im not sure if they have a tape ball culture.

tape ball is a massive reason pakistan producers more pacers than other asian countries.

as far as pakistan goes, pak have had pacers from all over, but genetically the two real tall guys i remember were south punjabi, irfan and shabbir ahmed.

 

[The Googly]

Maybe in terms of hieght but pace wise I don't think a ethnicity makes a difference

No?
2 Simple questions will give you the answer to this.

1. What is the likelihood of BD producing a physical speciman such as Garner, Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson, Sylvester Clarke, Wes Hall ?
Answer very very small

2. What ethnicity are these chaps?

Does ethnicity and race play a factor? Of course. People may try to deny and explain other reasons but the facts don’t support those reasons.

Some ethnicities are smaller then others. Fact.

Bengalis and non Punjabi Indians on average are smaller then Pakistanis. Fact.

How many 6 ft athletic Bengalis and Chinese do you see ?

These are facts.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Malnourished is not the right word. It is more like a combination of bad diet and lack of discipline.

Also, Karachi folks aren't exactly physically imposing. Only Pathans (and occasionally Punjabis) are.

Laughs in Mohammad Musa.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Shadat hossain was 6 ft or something. But he was still trundling at 130k. I think Taskin was the only one guy who BD can say is a genuine fast bowler. He was quick off the pitch. I think BD fast bowlers are the worst in history.Ireland bowlers don't exactly bowl at 150k I think they rolled ENgland over cheaply in recent times.

Since BD made Test debut here are fast bowling figures for various countries. Look how appalling BD is

 

[Muhammad Saad]

If pace is a genetic thing than how come India producing so many young fast bowlers these days!? Do they secretly alter their genes in the mrf academy?

 

[The Googly]

If pace is a genetic thing than how come India producing so many young fast bowlers these days!? Do they secretly alter their genes in the mrf academy?

A population of a billion may help? Plus talent and hard work.

 

[sweep_shot]

weird thing to say.

mortaza could bowl up to 140 if i remember right. real problem is Bangladeshi domestic pitches promote spin, and im not sure if they have a tape ball culture.

tape ball is a massive reason pakistan producers more pacers than other asian countries.

as far as pakistan goes, pak have had pacers from all over, but genetically the two real tall guys i remember were south punjabi, irfan and shabbir ahmed.

Tape ball culture is present in BD. But, there aren't many grounds in BD as the country is a small country with huge overpopulation.

You are correct about spin pitches though. Our pitches are either flat or dust bowl pitches. Pacers don't have incentives to work hard.

 

[sweep_shot]

I personally think we should stop caring about pace and just focus on line and length. Our pacers need to be accurate like Shaun Pollock instead of trying to be Brett Lee.

 

[The Googly]

I personally think we should stop caring about pace and just focus on line and length. Our pacers need to be accurate like Shaun Pollock instead of trying to be Brett Lee.

Agreed. Pace is not everything.

McGrath
Asif
Pollock
Philander

 

[Savak]

Ottis Gibson calling a spade a spade.

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] your thoughts.

Obviously he is a pro, so knows his job. But, I don’t think it’s genetical to be honest - yes, reaching exceptional speed like 160km is something that’s natural, but not clocking around 150K. I think, it’s more to do with investing in right type of youngsters at right age and proper conditioning, diet.

I actually don’t think genetics has lot to do in any sports. Yes, in sprint there is no white guy breaking 9.90sec barrier (everyone breaking 9.90 for 100 or 19.70 for 200 comes from a particular west African gin), but I think we can produce much faster bowlers. Tasking at his peak clocked 148K and these days Indian pacers are producing much faster deliveries.

What I understand from Gibson’s comment is that from this bunch of pacers, we can’t reach express pace, which is true. But, from the younger batch, average speed should increase.

 

[sjahmed23]

Bangladesh had a few good bowlers coming up, I think one guy named tabish khan or something could bowl 145ks, what happened to him?

I think for them it's more of a cultural thing, you cannot be a softie and be a good effective fast bowler.

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh had a few good bowlers coming up, I think one guy named tabish khan or something could bowl 145ks, what happened to him?

I think for them it's more of a cultural thing, you cannot be a softie and be a good effective fast bowler.

The biggest issue is the domestic wickets, if FC teams are forced to load 4-5 spinners in playing XI and couple of all-rounders to take the shine of new ball, hardly you can encourage youngsters working hard for bowling express - and this is purely because of the type of wickets you play. Before a year or two, BD domestic cricket was similar to what was in India in 1980s & before in terms of wicket - high scoring flat, batting belters with very little to offer for pacers.

But, it’s changing - now BCB has made a rule that 3 pacers has to be picked in every playing XI, at least 50% overs (45 in a full day) has to be bowled by pacers and taking 2nd new ball is mandatory after 90 overs. The age level batches have several promising pacers with right kind of physical attributes - things will definitely improve in future. But yes, producing 155k speed is something that you can’t manufacture.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Bangladesh is relatively new to cricket.It will take time to find fast bowlers.India with billions of people had no notable fast bowler for a very long time.Srinath was their quickest bowler but he couldn't bowl quick for more than a couple of overs.Pakistan has history of producing fast bowlers because youngsters want to bowl quick.Bangladesh needs to find youngsters with good physical build and train them to be aggressive bowlers.Bangladesh has a big population,it should be able to find good bowlers.If India can produce fast bowlers so can Bangladesh.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Fast bowling alone is not their problem. Their spin is also not exactly specatcular. ALso their batting is below international standard. Nobody averages close to 50. Andy flower was in top 10 ICC ranking for 2 or 3 years.

 

[shah_1]

Skills is that difference

 

[Hyperion66]

Extremely immature. Unscientific and outrageous comment coming from a national coach. In 2020 genetics doesn't hold you back, your own shortcomings and incompetencies do.

 

[sshakir411]

Hahah same reason why India produces phaast bowlers. Bangladesh should just become part of India. At least they’ll have a chance of being world beaters that way

 

[OmarKhan99]

Again, putting out statements without contextualizing them and without prefacing them with the question that was asked. The question asked was that considering he came from coaching the SA pace attack to now coaching this current Bangladeshi attack, how does he approach the two attacks differently.

Ottis clearly didn't mean that Bangladesh is incapable of producing genuine speedsters, (which if he did would be factually incorrect considering the likes of Rubel [recorded at 149.3], Taskin [recorded at 148] and pre-ban Al-Amin) but rather with the 2 current fast-medium (Ebadat) and medium-fast (Abu Jayed) bowlers on display he isn't looking to change their pace, since he believes it's a natural characteristic and he's working on improving their "skillset" instead.

Also, those calling Chinese unathletically built (and short) are mistaken. Japanese? Yes. Koreans? Yes (South less so). Chinese (Urban) aren't as unathletic (or short) as some might initially think.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You guys are completely missing the point. Gibson did not mean to say that Bangladeshis are genetically ill-equipped to be fast-bowlers. He said the current Bangladesh bowlers have limitations. He speaking on an individual level rather than a broad-based level.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If anything, Gibson is being generous. Because this Bangladesh pace attack doesn't just lack pace. It also lacks consistency, discipline, the ability to move the bowl, the ability to bowl bouncers and from what it seems, even the ability to take wickets. It's hard to think of a single thing this Bangladesh pace attack can successfully execute.

 

[MenInG]

You guys are completely missing the point. Gibson did not mean to say that Bangladeshis are genetically ill-equipped to be fast-bowlers. He said the current Bangladesh bowlers have limitations. He speaking on an individual level rather than a broad-based level.

Problem is he seems to be giving up on finding genuine quicks from Bangladesh. That's how I read it.

He seems to be saying, look this is all you have but its not that bad.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Problem is he seems to be giving up on finding genuine quicks from Bangladesh. That's how I read it.

He seems to be saying, look this is all you have but its not that bad.

The man is hardly to be blamed if there simply isn't a decent pace-bowler in Bangladesh.

I mean have you seen the averages of their experienced seamers? Most average between 60 and 90. That's mind-bogglingly bad and does not inspire hope regarding the more inexperienced bowlers on Bangladesh's domestic circuit.

 

[kingusama92]

It's more about unearthing the right talent in Bangladesh.

If the current lot have a genetic weakness, you have to go out and find the ones that can crank it up. Even in Pakistan, I remember Mohammad Amir coming in as a skinny kid that could hit 152 KPH.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Extremely immature. Unscientific and outrageous comment coming from a national coach. In 2020 genetics doesn't hold you back, your own shortcomings and incompetencies do.

More than that, my issue with his statement is he believes that is the only area that is holding them back.

 

[Rana]

Incorrect statement.

This myth was busted by India when they worked tirelessly hard and found regular 140+ bowlers. It is possible to do as long as you put the hard yards in to do it.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Lot of snowflakes won't like this statement but it is 100% true.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Obviously it is a genetic issue.

Pakistan’s street bowlers can bowl over 140 without any training i.e. Hasnain before he played in the PSL.

 

[sweep_shot]

I honestly didn't find his statement insulting. He coached big teams like South Africa and England. He is from the Caribbean (literally the land of fast bowlers). He knows a thing or two about fast bowling.

His job would be to give us competent and capable international standard bowlers. Doesn't matter whether express or medium.

I really don't want to see Rubel play Test again. This guy has a bowling average of 82+ after so many Tests.

 

[moghul]

Same thing was true for Indians Until 2 decades ago but they proved it wrong , let’s see what BD bowlers of future do about this .

 

[Bigboii]

Genetics is a bunch of B in sports, if country has money to invest in thier sports thay will be ahead than the other countries simple as that only place where genetics could come is when countries are evenly matched in terms of money spent just like China and USA, Russia. Chinese are not as physically fit as an American or Russian athlete that's why they are always around number 3 in Olympics but they perform better than Jamaican or west African athletes because these countries are poor and don't have the facilities to produce Olympic level athletes.
So imo blaming genetics is a lazy explaination of the country's incompetence in producing athletes.

 

[Saj]

Stay on topic guys.

 

[Mirpur express]

Bangladesh has always had spinners as their strike bowlers but their pace attack does look toothless

 

[sshakir411]

Malnourished is not the right word. It is more like a combination of bad diet and lack of discipline.

Also, Karachi folks aren't exactly physically imposing. Only Pathans (and occasionally Punjabis) are.

Pakistan's fastest bowler after Shoaib was from Karachi.

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan's fastest bowler after Shoaib was from Karachi.

Are you referring to Mohammed Zahid?

It is possible but most Karachi folks I have seen in real life aren't exactly big guys. Pathan people are generally tougher and bigger.

 

[tyron_woodley]

He is 100% right.

Bangladeshis aren't meant for fast bowling. We should always focus on line and length.

I can't say about future BD generations but present generation and past generation should forget about pace.

rubel, taskin and ebadat have all touched 145. yes genes do play a role but not a significant one. It's diet, strength training and fast twitch fibres that make a difference.

 

[sweep_shot]

rubel, taskin and ebadat have all touched 145. yes genes do play a role but not a significant one. It's diet, strength training and fast twitch fibres that make a difference.

We are culturally quite laid back. I am not sure if our players (most) are willing to go through the required diet change and workout schedule. Just look at Tamim's belly. A lot of our players are so skinny that it seems like they are more interested in getting girlfriends than playing cricket.

I am sure there are competent pacers but making them international-standard should be a challenge. Courtney Walsh has failed and I hope Ottis would succeed.

 

[tyron_woodley]

We are culturally quite laid back. I am not sure if our players (most) are willing to go through the required diet change and workout schedule. Just look at Tamim's belly. A lot of our players are so skinny that it seems like they are more interested in getting girlfriends than playing cricket.

I am sure there are competent pacers but making them international-standard should be a challenge. Courtney Walsh has failed and I hope Ottis would succeed.

that's it. That's the difference in mentality. It's not like Bangladeshi people can't produce fast bowlers. They absolutely can. They just don't have the drive to work hard.

australia were only successful in the past due to their economy, school system, infrastructure and training methods.

Now that things have even out, many other teams like india, England are dominating.

 

[BDfanforever]

No?
2 Simple questions will give you the answer to this.

1. What is the likelihood of BD producing a physical speciman such as Garner, Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson, Sylvester Clarke, Wes Hall ?
Answer very very small

2. What ethnicity are these chaps?

Does ethnicity and race play a factor? Of course. People may try to deny and explain other reasons but the facts don’t support those reasons.

Some ethnicities are smaller then others. Fact.

Bengalis and non Punjabi Indians on average are smaller then Pakistanis. Fact.

How many 6 ft athletic Bengalis and Chinese do you see ?

These are facts.

What a load of... Mexicans are generally small, but they are 11th ranked in football, and they would simply destroy a lot of the taller nations. They just needed to find couple of big tall CBs, which is pretty easy from millions of population.

Similarly in Cricket, you don't need to find tons of big and tall players like Mitchell Starc..just couple would be enough. A lot of the Bangladeshi pacers are relatively tall/big.

Dale Steyn is just 5-10, but still can bowl at 140k with ease.

 

[sweep_shot]

that's it. That's the difference in mentality. It's not like Bangladeshi people can't produce fast bowlers. They absolutely can. They just don't have the drive to work hard.

australia were only successful in the past due to their economy, school system, infrastructure and training methods.

Now that things have even out, many other teams like india, England are dominating.

I have to give credits to India. They have turned things around in fast bowling. They are now the best in Asia when it comes to pace bowling.

I think Kohli is the reason behind India's pace bowling success. This man has changed the environment and attitude.

Let's see how BD pacers develop under Ottis. He has a tough job at hand.

 

[BDfanforever]

Fast bowling alone is not their problem. Their spin is also not exactly specatcular. ALso their batting is below international standard. Nobody averages close to 50. Andy flower was in top 10 ICC ranking for 2 or 3 years.

This is a pretty accurate statement. I am actually more worried about spin than pace. BD spin outside of BD is completely utterly toothless.

 

[tyron_woodley]

non punjabi Indians are not tall? lol what are you guys smoking? have you been to india.

telugu people are even taller and bigger. I have seen this in real life. Some tamils from lower caste are real tall. Plenty of tall Kannada blokes too. haryana, central india all have plenty of tall guys.

India is too vast in terms of genetic makeup.

 

[Dingolfy]

I have to give credits to India. They have turned things around in fast bowling. They are now the best in Asia when it comes to pace bowling.

I think Kohli is the reason behind India's pace bowling success. This man has changed the environment and attitude.

Let's see how BD pacers develop under Ottis. He has a tough job at hand.

Indian resurgence in pace bowling is due to many factors. Good investments in infrastructure and better grassroots coaching are much important factors than Kohli's captaincy.

 

[Dingolfy]

non punjabi Indians are not tall? lol what are you guys smoking? have you been to india.

telugu people are even taller and bigger. I have seen this in real life. Some tamils from lower caste are real tall. Plenty of tall Kannada blokes too. haryana, central india all have plenty of tall guys.

India is too vast in terms of genetic makeup.

Don't forget us mallus. . People from South Tamilnadu ( where VijayShankar is from) are pretty tall dudes and dominate Indian volleyball along with Keralites.

 

[azimiqbal]

I think the myth your born with speed has been debunked.

However to be an express fast bowler I think you are born with, but bowling 145km can be achieved they training, diet and the gym

How else can you explain Imran Khan from a medium pacer turning into a 90mpj bowler ? Was he born with pace or developed if.

 

[Dingolfy]

I don't know much about Bangladeshis but having played soccer and ran track in India during school, I know a bit about the athletic abilities of Indian Bengalis who are genetically similar to Bangladeshis.

Till 1970's, football was the most popular game in India and everybody played that including Punjabis. Punjab even produced legendary footballers like Jarnail Singh who was one of the most feared defenders in Asia during his time. But even during that time, Bengalis ruled Indian football. That means they were physically capable to hold on with the likes of Punjabis in Football which is a much physical and athletic game than cricket. They are still a significant force in Indian football even in today's ISL era.

Coming to athletics which I believe is much closer to fast bowling in terms of athletic abilities, they have produced the likes of Jyotirmayi Sikdar ( Asian games 800 m Gold medalist), HariShankar Roy( holder of Indian highjump National record till recently),Debashree Mazumdar (member of Asian 4 × 400 Gold medal relay team) and Rahamatulla Molla ( member of India's 4 x 100 metres relay team which won bronze in 2010 Commonwealth games)

And they're not bad in strength sports also. Sukhen Dey won 2014 Commonwealth Gold,Achinta Sheuli,Rakhi Halder and Sukarna Adak won gold medals in the recent 2019 Commonwealth weightlifting championships.

Bangladeshis are new into cricket itself and so it would take some time for them to find good fast bowlers.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Indian resurgence in pace bowling is due to many factors. Good investments in infrastructure and better grassroots coaching are much important factors than Kohli's captaincy.

india always had good opening bowlers. It's the first change bowlers that india lacked. Quality in the first change options and bench strength. post 2014 everything changed.

 

[JattMaula]

What?

What?

What's next, he supports eugenics?

 

[Savak]

I think the myth your born with speed has been debunked.

However to be an express fast bowler I think you are born with, but bowling 145km can be achieved they training, diet and the gym

How else can you explain Imran Khan from a medium pacer turning into a 90mpj bowler ? Was he born with pace or developed if.

To be honest, i think India's pace resurgence has a lot to do with Kohli's relentless unforgiving demand and emphasis that the entire Indian team buys into his fitness and diet crusade, you don't follow his demands, you get chucked out, you can see the impact it has all had on all of the Indian pacers whose average speeds from their first to last spells from Day 1 to Day 5 are consistently high.

 

[Savak]

I have to give credits to India. They have turned things around in fast bowling. They are now the best in Asia when it comes to pace bowling.

I think Kohli is the reason behind India's pace bowling success. This man has changed the environment and attitude.

Let's see how BD pacers develop under Ottis. He has a tough job at hand.

The captain's influence is way more important than the coaches

 

[Dingolfy]

The captain's influence is way more important than the coaches

So how do you explain Shivam Mavi, Nagarkoti and Kartik Tyagi? You cant create fast bowlers from a vaccum. There needs to be good grassroots coaching for that.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

So is he saying that genetics will never allow Bangladesh to produce decent speed-merchants?

He definitely Trolled the BD Bowlers here.

 

[Arya]

I wouldn't be too happy with the statement if I was a Bangladeshi bowler. They have tall strong bowlers like Taskin too, not everyone is Rakibul or Monimul size.

 

[gazza619]

It is just a matter of time when Bangladesh produces a pace battery. Need to wait for one more generation

 

[Artaxerxes]

The average height of Indian men is around 5 1/2 feet.This doesn't mean all Indians are short.In Patiala Indian Punjab the avg height is 5 feet 10 in.This is from Wikipedia .Pakistan was not in the Wikipedia list.Many other sources list avg height of Pakistani men as 5 feet 7 inches.Indians and Bangladeshis are short but it doesn't mean all of them are short.India has a huge population so you will find many tall Indians.The Dutch people are very tall(on avg) hence you will find many tall Dutch people if collect statistics.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Ebadat was consistently around 140 clicks during Pindi Test. FASTEST was 145.8. Hes 6'1" as well.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Can't tell whether they're missing mushy more or shakib

They've had lots of good coaches too
Maybe their genetics doesnt let them grow up after the age of 19

 

[Kroll]

Incorrect statement.

This myth was busted by India when they worked tirelessly hard and found regular 140+ bowlers. It is possible to do as long as you put the hard yards in to do it.

I agree, its a fallacy to say certain groups are born faster than others. Anyone from anywhere can become the best at what they do and that includes becoming the fastest bowlers through the right coaching, training and a willingness to succeed.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Incorrect statement.

This myth was busted by India when they worked tirelessly hard and found regular 140+ bowlers. It is possible to do as long as you put the hard yards in to do it.

This happened once Indian economy boomed in the 2000s. This allowed Indian pacers to expensive things like quality coaching and most importantly quality nutrition. You can be a vegetarian but you will need essential amino acids and or exogenous protein. BCCI can afford the very best protein supplements. Besidez that I doubt if Ishant, Umesh, Bumrah are vegetarian to begin with. They may not eat red meat but fish and chicken will help.

Contrast to BD, our economy is only now booming. Majority of our cricketers eat daal chawal, occaisionally fish if they can afford it. Rarely red meat or beef. This will change soon, but will probably take 10 lag years befpre it results in a potent pace attack.

 

[Mainul]

This is a pretty accurate statement. I am actually more worried about spin than pace. BD spin outside of BD is completely utterly toothless.

Even in BD, spinners of opposition will always outperform ours spinners. Except Zimbis, Irish every team has better spinners

 

[gazza619]

A silly statement by Gibson. You can achieve good things even at 130-135 mph. No need to be embarrassed.

There was no lack of genetics in the way in which Ebadat bowled today. There was some serious pace and swing.

 

[Muddaser]

A silly statement by Gibson. You can achieve good things even at 130-135 mph. No need to be embarrassed.

There was no lack of genetics in the way in which Ebadat bowled today. There was some serious pace and swing.

One swallow doesn't make a summer.