We are still seeking international ban on Pakistan despite ICC snub: COA chief [Update Post #157]

[msb314]

I disagree about other boards not willing to sit idle. If India gives them an ultimatum, they will always side with them. They would prefer to sit idle than be seen to go against the BCCI, especially if the alternative is for India to cancel away tours to those countries and ban their players from the IPL.

It's foolish to even attempt to compare the amount of money those boards earn from an Indian tour compared with a Pakistan tour. Furthermore, there is a lot of precedent of the influence the BCCI can exert on these boards.

WICB is beholden to India for tv money, South Africa suffered a momentous loss in 2014 just because the BCCI cut short a tour in retaliation for their dispute with Haroon Lorgat, Australia threw their own players under the bus to please BCCI, and NZ earn more from their tv rights deal with Star than with any other overseas broadcaster.

As I stated, complacency about Pakistan's position in the cricket hierarchy will get us nowhere.

IMO - PCB has to be strategic about the way they would approach the other cricket boards for tours.

For example - they could persuade the ECB to do invite Pakistan for two LOI tours in a calendar year and enjoy profitability from those series given our huge diaspora there. Hopefully the ECB will eventually return the favor and tour Pakistan as well.

We could invite WI for a short LOI tour to Pakistan and agree on a revenue split deal maybe something like 75:25 as long as our 75% revenue is still profit making. If the series goes without a hitch - we could then persuade them to do more tours and then reciprocate by touring them the very next year.

Small favours like these may help move the needle with regards to bilateral relations with Pakistan.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

there are many i totally agree with him too
we cant even ask any questions to the Govt
they will tell us to go to Pakistan and label us as anti-national if we ask how the 350kg RDX got in.
infact most of the Celebrities you see tweeting specially muslim one its like they must condemn and also blame Pakistan or else media and everyone will start doubting them too .

Yes, that is the doctrine, either you are with us or against us, that led to US entering all kinds of revenge wars.

I can only assume you represent minorities but perhaps that is outside the purview of PP.

On topic, hope sanity prevails and Pakistan and India come back to playing cricket. This isolation thing is not working in cricket.

 

[Last Monetarist]

IMO - PCB has to be strategic about the way they would approach the other cricket boards for tours.

For example - they could persuade the ECB to do invite Pakistan for two LOI tours in a calendar year and enjoy profitability from those series given our huge diaspora there. Hopefully the ECB will eventually return the favor and tour Pakistan as well.

We could invite WI for a short LOI tour to Pakistan and agree on a revenue split deal maybe something like 75:25 as long as our 75% revenue is still profit making. If the series goes without a hitch - we could then persuade them to do more tours and then reciprocate by touring them the very next year.

Small favours like these may help move the needle with regards to bilateral relations with Pakistan.

Fully agreed on having a clear strategy about maintaining our relationships with other boards. I don't trust the PCB to be that savvy, however, if Ehsan Mani's tenure to date is taken into account. He seems demonstrably less competent than the previous chairman.

By the way, the BCCI has a significant negotiating tactic if they are to convince the other boards to boycott relations with Pakistan. What do you think the other boards will do if they are told the BCCI will allow Indian players to play in leagues such as the Big Bash, CPL, and the MSL ? Sure the IPL's value will diminish a tad, but we are long past the point of pretending the BCCI is a rational economic actor here.

 

[Babbar]

“For example - they could persuade the ECB to do invite Pakistan for two LOI tours in a calendar year and enjoy profitability from those series given our huge diaspora there.“

Pakistan huge diaspora in UAE could not fill a bus in PSL matches this year. ECB can make way more money by calling Scotland and Ireland. Even inviting Afghanistn would be profitable as they have exciting players and also many Indians will buy tickets to support the new team.

Pakistan has to produce more exciting players if it wants big nations to invite more frequently, despite Indians factor.

 

[saeed5646]

“For example - they could persuade the ECB to do invite Pakistan for two LOI tours in a calendar year and enjoy profitability from those series given our huge diaspora there.“

Pakistan huge diaspora in UAE could not fill a bus in PSL matches this year. ECB can make way more money by calling Scotland and Ireland. Even inviting Afghanistn would be profitable as they have exciting players and also many Indians will buy tickets to support the new team.

Pakistan has to produce more exciting players if it wants big nations to invite more frequently, despite Indians factor.

None of your business no one force you to watch pak cricket.the frustration of bcci is understandable as they can not threatened pcb with bilateral series or not allowing pak players in ipl.Lets see how much low they can go pak cricket have survived from alot more than these empty threats.

 

[Babbar]

I agree with you. It’s a matter of survival for Pak Cricket. They have faced bigger existential challenges before and will face even bigger in future. Gradually some teams will come to play in Pakistan- initially small ones and then hopefully Bangladesh and West Indies too. If all goes well, England, Australia may also come. But Pak cricket will survive despite what BCCI does or does not do.

That said, BCCI’s challenges are very different- How to dominate the world of cricket both on the ground and off it!

Best wishes to the both!

 

[saeed5646]

I agree with you. It’s a matter of survival for Pak Cricket. They have faced bigger existential challenges before and will face even bigger in future. Gradually some teams will come to play in Pakistan- initially small ones and then hopefully Bangladesh and West Indies too. If all goes well, England, Australia may also come. But Pak cricket will survive despite what BCCI does or does not do.

That said, BCCI’s challenges are very different- How to dominate the world of cricket both on the ground and off it!

Best wishes to the both!

If you think today's cricket is played due to there ranking and quality then you are wrong my friend.History suggests that neither eng,aus care about bcci nor pcb .they are with bcci because they lay golden egg for them.The money is the only matter bcci gets more cricket with aus,eng than pak.

 

[MRSN]

Ehsan Mani is not capable of giving him a befitting reply. The time has come for PCB to defend its country and show some patriotism, but unfortunately we don’t have the personnel for it.

It’s a matter of pride. No one should absorb this level of insult. It was infuriating to read Mani’s meek response.

Agreed. But I think it should be the ICC who should follow IOC and shut BCCI up. There should be no place of politics in sports.

 

[Runner Up]

Why would other countries care what India want? At least they don't mix politics with sports.

 

[silent ischemia]

Will ask cricketing world to sever ties with nations from where terror emanates: CoA chief

CoA chief Vinod Rai said that it is in talks with the government on the issue and urged the cricketing community that "in future we must sever ties with nations from where terror emanates."

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (CoA) on Friday did not make any headway on deciding the fate of the June 16 World Cup clash against Pakistan in England. Following a meeting of the committee, CoA chief Vinod Rai, however, said it would individually urge ICC members to “sever ties with any nation from where terror emanates.”

“We are in talks with the government. No decision has been taken on the June 16 match,” Vinod Rai told reporters after the meeting.

The meeting comes in the wake of several calls for the boycott of the match against Pakistan at the Old Trafford following last week’s Pulwama terror attack, which killed more than 40 CRPF personnel. The argument to not play Pakistan has found support from former cricketers like Sourav Ganguly and Harbhajan Singh.

“We are expressing two concerns to the ICC. We will ask for more protection for players during the World Cup and we will tell cricketing nations to sever ties with any nation that is a terrorist hub,” PTI quoted Rai as saying.

Media reports on the eve of the meeting said the CoA and the BCCI might approach the ICC seeking Pakistan’s ouster from the mega event in England that starts on May 30. However, there is no provision in the ICC regulations that allow one member to seek the ouster of another.

No IPL opening ceremony

Rai also said that money allotted for the opening ceremony of the upcoming season of the Indian Premier League would go to the families of the CRPF personnel killed in the Pulwama terror attack. “We will not have any inaugural function for the IPL and the money budgeted for that goes to the martyrs’ families,” said Rai.

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/india-vs-pakistan-world-cup-bcci-coa-vinod-rai/

Will you sever ties with Afghanistan as well.
Highly unlikely as the terrorist attacks on Pakistan from Afghanistan are sponsored by RAW/India

 

[silent ischemia]

Agreed. But I think it should be the ICC who should follow IOC and shut BCCI up. There should be no place of politics in sports.

O Sethi we miss you. What jokers we have at PCB under IK

 

[MRSN]

Will you sever ties with Afghanistan as well.
Highly unlikely as the terrorist attacks on Pakistan from Afghanistan are sponsored by RAW/India

India's diplomatic strength has gone down in Afganistan ever since Karzai had gone. Which is why we see very rare terrorist attacks in Pakistan. Also anti-Pak talibans have been hunt down by Afghan talibans as in return Pak army is making strong efforts to make them part of Afghan national system and America also seems happy and aknowledge efforts of the Pak army. So Pak has an upper hand in Afghanistan. With Talibans to be part of govt soon India just can't wait to get all their investment out of Afghan.

 

[Neeraj]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

 

[saeed5646]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

so what it stop them to do?Kis bat ka lihaz kr rha hain?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

Your childish thinking is not the way the world works. India cannot do jack to Pakistan, as the governing body will be in huge trouble otherwise. And you will have to sell me real hard the notion that the rest of the cricket boards will be happy in a situation where the governing body of the sport is at loggerheads with one of their fellow cricket board, over an issue which has absolutely nothing to do with them

Why do you think Indians were quick to defuse the report about them getting Pakistan thrown out of the World Cup? It would have led to an embarrassment the kind never seen before in sports, and they would have opened up ICC to aggressive litigation.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

You must be deluded if you think cricket will be affected in any way if India stops playing. It has survived 100 years before India became relevant, Australia and England still dictate the terms.

 

[Jingaaru]

Spot on and hence why I have advocated multiple times on this forum that the PCB has to make a strong statement on retaliate to the BCCI.

Not saying anything does not show maturity in the political world but is taken as a sign of weakness.

This episode no doubt has confirmed one thing in my mind - we cannot ever trust the BCCI or even the ICC. Significant investments need to be made into the PSL - which is our cash cow. The PSL will become an instrument of our cricketing power - if it is not already.

PCB is still looking for the resumption of INDO-PAK cricket ties. They are hopeful about it. Although it is not going to happen. But still PCB officials will remain silent as they think that any strong reaction from their side will be the last nail in the coffin regarding this. They are being cautious. They will just ignore what BCCI says at the moment as they look towards the revenue that INDO-PAK series will generate for them in future. They dont want to get BCCI more angry from their statements after that MOU SAGA.

 

[Jingaaru]

You must be deluded if you think cricket will be affected in any way if India stops playing. It has survived 100 years before India became relevant, Australia and England still dictate the terms.

Time has changed. Its the financial power that matters. Ask any cricket board's official that what will happen if INDIA stops playing. Every other cricket boards want India to tour their country. Its not a rocket science to know why.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Time has changed. Its the financial power that matters. Ask any cricket board's official that what will happen if INDIA stops playing. Every other cricket boards want India to tour their country. Its not a rocket science to know why.

Its true the financial windfall of IPL is enormous and India is a major power playing in helping ICC fill its coffers.

But no model is based on only one country.

That's like saying Ikea would die the day its founder Ingvar Kamprad dies. Business models adapt to the situations and that's the best thing about sports, that it has major adaptability.

In the situation that India stops playing for ICC, sure, the loss will be hard. But the remaining 8 countries can pool their minds to find a sustainable model without India.

The problem with Indian delusionary philosophy is that they think because they are powerful, nothing can ever happen to them. Things can change and situations can be made feasible even if something untoward happens.

Life never stops for anyone. Not even for the "The Chosen Team India."

 

[Ahmed216]

Modi is not the only problem

It is the mindset of India, which will always be the same i am afraid.

Hes the first Indian prime minister to have made an official visit to Israel.
All the others before him avoided doing that.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Toxic and disgusting remarks by BCCI.

I knew that gangsters and criminals run BCCI but this is a new low.

Pathetic.

PS: PCB must take these people to courts and then they might learn to shut up.

 

[Hitman]

Vinod Rai was a ***** when he took over as the CoA Chief, he is a ***** now.

 

[MRSN]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

They have done their best in the last 10 years to hurt Pakistan cricket yet Pakistan cricket is flourishing and alive. For instance they banned our players in the IPl when it was the only league but then we saw emergence of leagues world wide and our own PSL. And also by not playing the series that were part of shedule and MOUs. Asking only Indian channel broadcasting our league to stop airing. The list can go on and on but Pakistan cricket keeps on surviving.

Now ad things are becoming normal in Pakistan PCB is to earn quite a lot of revenue and in future we will be in better position. We have survived BCCI blackmailing and threats in our toughest times so now when things are only going to get better I doubt you can cause any damage.

 

[MRSN]

Toxic and disgusting remarks by BCCI.

I knew that gangsters and criminals run BCCI but this is a new low.

Pathetic.

PS: PCB must take these people to courts and then they might learn to shut up.

PCB should not stay silent and make their case in the ICC for this pathetic behavior from thr BCCI. Today is Pakistan tomorrow can be anybody else. This political involvement must end here.

 

[MRSN]

Its true the financial windfall of IPL is enormous and India is a major power playing in helping ICC fill its coffers.

But no model is based on only one country.

That's like saying Ikea would die the day its founder Ingvar Kamprad dies. Business models adapt to the situations and that's the best thing about sports, that it has major adaptability.

In the situation that India stops playing for ICC, sure, the loss will be hard. But the remaining 8 countries can pool their minds to find a sustainable model without India.

The problem with Indian delusionary philosophy is that they think because they are powerful, nothing can ever happen to them. Things can change and situations can be made feasible even if something untoward happens.

Life never stops for anyone. Not even for the "The Chosen Team India."

BCCI will be the biggest loser itself if it boycotts the world cricket.

 

[Hitman]

It's not fair to blame the BCCI here. The BCCI hates the CoA, just like us fans do. The CoA was shoved upon the BCCI by the Supreme Court of India.

 

[MRSN]

Time has changed. Its the financial power that matters. Ask any cricket board's official that what will happen if INDIA stops playing. Every other cricket boards want India to tour their country. Its not a rocket science to know why.

It's same case for BCCI as well. Why Star network hypes up a Pakistan India match? And why broadcasters were begging for a Pak-Ind match in the world cup? To earn more revenue. BCCI survives itself on playing other big teams. If BCCI boycotts ICC ,will they earn cash from India blue facing India Red whole year?LoL

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

It's same case for BCCI as well. Why Star network hypes up a Pakistan India match? And why broadcasters were begging for a Pak-Ind match in the world cup? To earn more revenue. BCCI survives itself on playing other big teams. If BCCI boycotts ICC ,will they earn cash from India blue facing India Red whole year?LoL

Let me break it to you on what this statement means

1. Remove Pakistan from the FTP so India doesn't have to ever think of playing them in global tournaments
2. Remove Pakistan from the FTP so no other country plays them as well

The idea isn't to play India Red vs. India Blue all year but that Australia play India while Pakistan are having a t 20 tournament with Karachi Dolphins and Lahore Brighto paints and no foreign player is part of it or broadcaster is showing it outside of Pakistan.

That also includes their wish for all Indian companies that sponsor Pakistan cricket in any form or way to eliminate ties with Pakistan.

The lobbying isn't about not playing Pakistan now, it's about no-one playing Pakistan or having any sort of contact with the PCB.

Can that happen? We don't know as we have to wait and watch. My personal opinion is that India has the power to arm-twist countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and New Zealand. Afghanistan is a natural ally and it will if need arises back India's stance. Bangladesh I'm fifty-fifty, their cricketing board has very minimal ties with Pakistan but the general public has showed us some affection in the past (the people have shown really big hearts tbh). South Africa are a difficult to understand case as they have suffered isolation and it's difficult to predict their behavior. That leaves behind Australia and England. The big two that have enough ability to sustain their cricket on their own but both of them make major money because of strong ties with India. England even moved their domestic cricket schedule to accomodate IPL and both of them have given IPL a proper window. It's going to be an interesting time going forward.

People who are looking at statements from the PCB, I'd like them to post what actually they want the PCB to say. I'd also like them to consider that PSL is on-going at the moment and giving this issue too much leverage will definitely cast major doubt on the tournament. Add to that, the last round of PSL is inside on Pakistan and that will create another awkward situation that the board doesn't want.

For once, I've not much to complain about the board. The Prime Minister gave a statement, so did the spokesperson of the Army about the issue at hand. The board doesn't need to add anymore. I do however hope that they are working tirelessly in the background with other boards and associations and will go in the ICC meeting prepared and not looking like a fish out of water.

 

[pakistani pride]

“For example - they could persuade the ECB to do invite Pakistan for two LOI tours in a calendar year and enjoy profitability from those series given our huge diaspora there.“

Pakistan huge diaspora in UAE could not fill a bus in PSL matches this year. ECB can make way more money by calling Scotland and Ireland. Even inviting Afghanistn would be profitable as they have exciting players and also many Indians will buy tickets to support the new team.

Pakistan has to produce more exciting players if it wants big nations to invite more frequently, despite Indians factor.

Sure.

Pak has performed superby in the UK last few years.

Perhaps thats new to you.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Let me break it to you on what this statement means

1. Remove Pakistan from the FTP so India doesn't have to ever think of playing them in global tournaments
2. Remove Pakistan from the FTP so no other country plays them as well

The idea isn't to play India Red vs. India Blue all year but that Australia play India while Pakistan are having a t 20 tournament with Karachi Dolphins and Lahore Brighto paints and no foreign player is part of it or broadcaster is showing it outside of Pakistan.

That also includes their wish for all Indian companies that sponsor Pakistan cricket in any form or way to eliminate ties with Pakistan.

The lobbying isn't about not playing Pakistan now, it's about no-one playing Pakistan or having any sort of contact with the PCB.

Can that happen? We don't know as we have to wait and watch. My personal opinion is that India has the power to arm-twist countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and New Zealand. Afghanistan is a natural ally and it will if need arises back India's stance. Bangladesh I'm fifty-fifty, their cricketing board has very minimal ties with Pakistan but the general public has showed us some affection in the past (the people have shown really big hearts tbh). South Africa are a difficult to understand case as they have suffered isolation and it's difficult to predict their behavior. That leaves behind Australia and England. The big two that have enough ability to sustain their cricket on their own but both of them make major money because of strong ties with India. England even moved their domestic cricket schedule to accomodate IPL and both of them have given IPL a proper window. It's going to be an interesting time going forward.

It's staggering how so many posters don't seem to understand this point. Anyone not taking this threat seriously is naive.

I've stated above that the only board who would be able to withstand such pressure is the ECB, because it would be a political and social nightmare if the UK is seen to take steps that vindicate India's stance on Kashmir without indisputable evidence that Pakistan has been sponsoring cross-border terrorism. Furthermore, there are a lot of folks in English cricket that sympathize with Pakistan's plight over the last decade. You cannot say the same for any other board.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Time has changed. Its the financial power that matters. Ask any cricket board's official that what will happen if INDIA stops playing. Every other cricket boards want India to tour their country. Its not a rocket science to know why.

Cricket is far more than just money in England and Australia, it's literally part of their national heritage. They have been playing first class cricket for 170 years, before Rabindranath Tagore was born. Ashes will go on whether India stops playing entirely. Other boards really don't care about India as much as you think.

 

[Jingaaru]

It's same case for BCCI as well. Why Star network hypes up a Pakistan India match? And why broadcasters were begging for a Pak-Ind match in the world cup? To earn more revenue. BCCI survives itself on playing other big teams. If BCCI boycotts ICC ,will they earn cash from India blue facing India Red whole year?LoL

Its not about BCCI boycotting ICC rather BCCI only wants other cricketing nations not to play Pakistan and that is its only agenda to isolate PAK from the cricketing fraternity and rest remains the same. And once PAKISTAN gets isolated from cricketing fraternity itself why will STAR beg for a INDO-PAK match in ICC events.

 

[xricket]

I am not debating whether this is a right move or not, nor I am justifying it.

It's just that this won't certainly be taken lightly and other nations may follow India, like they did with big three change at ICC. Or, India could limit playing with them or put conditions on them, that if you play with Pakistan or play PSL, you won't play us or IPL or something. Because, money. That's why

This is very bad for Pakistan and world cricket and I really hope we sort this out somehow. Indian cricket owns pretty much world cricket and has great influence at ICC.

 

[Zaz]

Ehsan Mani is not capable of giving him a befitting reply. The time has come for PCB to defend its country and show some patriotism, but unfortunately we don’t have the personnel for it.

It’s a matter of pride. No one should absorb this level of insult. It was infuriating to read Mani’s meek response.

Its better to not respond The befitting reply is to ignore Pcb is doing fine Let them keep digging a hole for themselves

 

[Romali_rotti]

Pathetic from the Indian side.... Even though government is forcing BCCI, I hope this will never come into fruition, I rather India get banned than Pakistan..

 

[Jingaaru]

Cricket is far more than just money in England and Australia, it's literally part of their national heritage. They have been playing first class cricket for 170 years, before Rabindranath Tagore was born. Ashes will go on whether India stops playing entirely. Other boards really don't care about India as much as you think.

Really ??? Other boards don't care about INDIA , thats why England even moved their domestic cricket schedule to accomodate IPL and Australia has also given IPL a proper window. Cricket South Africa withdrew its CEO Haroon Lorgat from its dealings with Indian Board and then India toured them in 2013. Countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and New Zealand financially depends a lot on BCCI as they make a lot of money through broadcasting deals when BCCI sends its cricket team to play those countries.. Bangladesh, SRI LANKA , AFGANISTAN will always keep playing with INDIA as they owe a lot to BCCI and they too make a lot of money when INDIAN CRICKET TEAM tours them. They wont survive without Indian Cricket. Only ECB and CA can survive without BCCI, but even they will not want to avoid playing INDIA as their revenue will take a big hit.

 

[Bilal7]

Really ??? Other boards don't care about INDIA , thats why England even moved their domestic cricket schedule to accomodate IPL and Australia has also given IPL a proper window. Cricket South Africa withdrew its CEO Haroon Lorgat from its dealings with Indian Board and then India toured them in 2013. Countries like West Indies, Zimbabwe and New Zealand financially depends a lot on BCCI as they make a lot of money through broadcasting deals when BCCI sends its cricket team to play those countries.. Bangladesh, SRI LANKA , AFGANISTAN will always keep playing with INDIA as they owe a lot to BCCI and they too make a lot of money when INDIAN CRICKET TEAM tours them. They wont survive without Indian Cricket. Only ECB and CA can survive without BCCI, but even they will not want to avoid playing INDIA as their revenue will take a big hit.

The other boards definitely care a lot about the BCCI but they also care a fair bit about the PCB. As we have seen time after time, the BCCI does not have the cajones nor the nationalistic pride to take such steps and everyone, including the other member boards knows this.

When they are not willing to lose out on a single match, what makes you think they will sit out of the next two ICC tournaments, that they are likely to host (although there is a chance that they end up losing those hosting rights)?

This is all show to appease the hardcore, Hindu nationalists but all will be forgotten by the World Cup, when these same shameless fans will fill the stadium in droves and laugh and smile while the Pakistani and Indian teams play cricket.

 

[Abdullah719]

Indian government informed about BCCI decision to isolate Pakistan: Vinod Rai

The Committee of Administrators chairman Vinod Rai has confirmed that the Indian government has been informed about the Board of Control for Cricket in India's stand on Pakistan and how it is planning to isolate the country from the cricketing community.

India Today has learnt that Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity.

India Today had earlier learnt that the BCCI CEO Rahul Johri left for Dubai at 8pm on Saturday night and will start informal dialogues with the member boards by Sunday evening.

BCCI will first seek to align England with India because England is the World Cup hosting board. England also don't travel to Pakistan for bilateral cricket and that's what the BCCI will use.

They feel if they get 2-3 boards on their side to express the same sentiment, the process to isolate Pakistan would have begun in earnest.

Rai had a detailed chat with Johri and he has been instructed to flag this issue at every opportunity.

Rai had earlier directed Rahul Johri to write a letter to the International Cricket Council to convey the message that the Indian board was against Pakistan's participation in the upcoming World Cup following the terror attacks in Pulwama last week, which killed 40 CRPF jawans.

The BCCI's letter had also expressed concerns over the safety of Indian players, support staff and the fans, among other points. BCCI also in the letter, urged the cricketing community to sever ties with countries from where "terror emanates".

"We must try to isolate Pakistan from cricket community. That's what we are trying to do. We want other ICC members to realise that terror emanates from Pakistan," Rai told India Today on Saturday.

"Long term plan, we want to declare Pakistan as the apartheid of cricket. "Just the way South Africa at one point, no team was playing them. Similar plan we need to do with Pakistan where no team should play them," he added.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...ma-terror-attack-vinod-rai-1463861-2019-02-24

 

[Last Monetarist]

There you have it.

One could argue it was harder to isolate South Africa for apartheid than it would be for anyone to refuse to play Pakistan. Simply because the Afrikaner government had close economic and military links with governments in the US, UK, and Australia, and there were also a lot of apartheid sympathizers within the MCC at the time. It took a great deal of campaigning behind the scenes before the South African cricket boycott could be organized.

Pakistan has nowhere near the same kind of diplomatic clout these days in the west. This can get really ugly very soon. Anyone thinking that PCB can afford to sit back and allow this to play out quietly is supremely deluded.

 

[Darkrai]

Everything is going well for Pakistan. PSL will be shifted to Pakistan. Imran khan made sure we have good relations with other countries. By threatening Pakistan cricket and Pakistan, India looks like a fool in front of the world. After the cruel treatment of Kashmir People, India got what they deserved, now they are crying and blaming people. How low can these guys get? Sometimes i wonder, how can a nation be so ********.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

There you have it.

One could argue it was harder to isolate South Africa for apartheid than it would be for anyone to refuse to play Pakistan. Simply because the Afrikaner government had close economic and military links with governments in the US, UK, and Australia, and there were also a lot of apartheid sympathizers within the MCC at the time. It took a great deal of campaigning behind the scenes before the South African cricket boycott could be organized.

Pakistan has nowhere near the same kind of diplomatic clout these days in the west. This can get really ugly very soon. Anyone thinking that PCB can afford to sit back and allow this to play out quietly is supremely deluded.

If India can prove Pakistan government was directly involved with the terrorist attack, they would've declared war by now. This was a rogue incident until proven otherwise. Pakistan can not be suspended from playing cricket on the basis of allegations, coming from an openly hostile country with a narrative.

This is same for any country. Why do you think Olympics has suspended India from hosting?

 

[Slim]

I was genuinely embarrassed to read such a ***** letter by BCCI. I mean if you were going to write it, at least should have had the balls to write it properly.

 

[warcry]

If you think today's cricket is played due to there ranking and quality then you are wrong my friend.History suggests that neither eng,aus care about bcci nor pcb .they are with bcci because they lay golden egg for them.The money is the only matter bcci gets more cricket with aus,eng than pak.

that may be so. but excluding pakistan after being bullied by BCCI creates an unpleasant precedent. Today it is pakistan, tomorrow, some other board could be bullied and threated with isolation.

 

[msb314]

PCB is still looking for the resumption of INDO-PAK cricket ties. They are hopeful about it. Although it is not going to happen. But still PCB officials will remain silent as they think that any strong reaction from their side will be the last nail in the coffin regarding this. They are being cautious. They will just ignore what BCCI says at the moment as they look towards the revenue that INDO-PAK series will generate for them in future. They dont want to get BCCI more angry from their statements after that MOU SAGA.

If the PCB still thinks that way - they are move naive and out of touch with reality that I thought.

There have have been so many nails bolted into this coffin that there is no more room for the "last nail" - our bilateral ties with India are finished and will not resume for the next decade or so. The PCB needs to accept that.

Being passive and appeasing towards the BCCI is a strategy that has never worked for the PCB - they need put their foot down and let the BCCI know that they ball is in their court. BCCI has to resume talks for a bilateral series - no the PCB>

 

[mesmerizer85]

I am guessing the PAK vs INDIA WC match will go ahead but their players will show some kind of protest by not shaking hands or wearing bands. Let us see...

 

[Abdullah719]

India vs Pakistan in World Cup? Sports bodies should not take political calls, says Justice RM Lodha

Former Chief Justice of India (CJI) R M Lodha on Sunday opined that sports bodies should refrain from taking political calls as their function is to run the sport.

In an exclusive telephonic conversation with ANI, Lodha said, "Unless government snaps all sports activities with Pakistan, sports bodies should not take a political call. The government will have to take a political call, sports bodies' function is to run the sport."

The Committee of Administrators (CoA), which governs the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), on Sunday, said the sporting community should isolate Pakistan for supporting terror and make it the "apartheid of international cricket," just like South Africa was boycotted in world games due to its policy of apartheid.

"Want to make Pakistan the apartheid of international cricket and will seek all member nations' support to make sure it happens and this matter will officially be tabled in the ICC chief executives meet too," COA chairman Vinod Rai told ANI.

In the backdrop of Pulwama terror attack, BCCI had on Friday appealed to the International Cricket Council (ICC) to sever ties with countries from where terrorism emanates, in an obvious reference to Pakistan.

Indian captain Virat Kohli on Saturday condemned the terror attack in Pulwama and maintained that the team will do whatever the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) and the government decide on the India-Pakistan World Cup match.

As many as 40 CRPF personnel lost their lives in the dastardly terror attack which took place in South Kashmir's Pulwama district on February 14. Pakistan-based terror outfit Jaish-e-Mohammed claimed responsibility for the attack.

https://www.dnaindia.com/cricket/re...political-calls-says-justice-rm-lodha-2723639

 

[khan_aa]

idiots dont even know what apartheid means...

 

[ChennaiFan]

The attack happened in India and BCCI is worried about the world cup matches that are going to take place in the UK!
If the CoA had said they would not play any matches in India till the security hole in India was fixed, it would have made sense.

 

[Gullycricket]

Saw on FB neighbours calling for boycott of Lays and Pepsi since they are sponsors of our cricket team.I mean like

 

[Balthazar]

They have done their best in the last 10 years to hurt Pakistan cricket yet Pakistan cricket is flourishing and alive. For instance they banned our players in the IPl when it was the only league but then we saw emergence of leagues world wide and our own PSL. And also by not playing the series that were part of shedule and MOUs. Asking only Indian channel broadcasting our league to stop airing. The list can go on and on but Pakistan cricket keeps on surviving.

This is not 'hurting'. BCCI are well within their rights to look after their interests. If Pakistan does the same thing to Indian Cricket, I don't see how it's going to hurt BCCI. Blame your board for overly depending on Indian market to survive.

 

[Pete Rose]

Reading in the Pakistani press about how the IOC is pushing back against India about them not issuing visas to Pakistani players.
If true it explains the contrast between IOC and ICC: one is dependent on india completely while the other obviously has multiple sources of advertising revenue.

 

[Stewie]

So .. are we banned yet???!! Rofl!!!

Keep dreaming BCCI buffoons...

 

[Jingaaru]

There you have it.

One could argue it was harder to isolate South Africa for apartheid than it would be for anyone to refuse to play Pakistan. Simply because the Afrikaner government had close economic and military links with governments in the US, UK, and Australia, and there were also a lot of apartheid sympathizers within the MCC at the time. It took a great deal of campaigning behind the scenes before the South African cricket boycott could be organized.

Pakistan has nowhere near the same kind of diplomatic clout these days in the west. This can get really ugly very soon. Anyone thinking that PCB can afford to sit back and allow this to play out quietly is supremely deluded.

But PCB thinks the other way. It thinks that nothing will happen.

 

[Jingaaru]

If the PCB still thinks that way - they are move naive and out of touch with reality that I thought.

There have have been so many nails bolted into this coffin that there is no more room for the "last nail" - our bilateral ties with India are finished and will not resume for the next decade or so. The PCB needs to accept that.

Being passive and appeasing towards the BCCI is a strategy that has never worked for the PCB - they need put their foot down and let the BCCI know that they ball is in their court. BCCI has to resume talks for a bilateral series - no the PCB>

But PCB MD Wasim Khan says that If Pak improves its cricket then INDIA will ask them to play. So according to him PCB will work towards that goal only. He doesnt see any political hindrance in the resumption of INDO-PAK bilateral series.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

This is comedy.
Its not your ipl. Where you will isolate a team

 

[Jingaaru]

So .. are we banned yet???!! Rofl!!!

Keep dreaming BCCI buffoons...

Do u think that it will be done through ICC where there will be a voting process, then u r totally wrong.

it is done at the political level.

It is done at the government level where you talk to other nations in order to build consensus. Ministry of External Affairs of India will handle this issue now. Indian diplomats and Indian Govt. will talk to the diplomats of all or major cricket playing nations who are the members of ICC. And India's political clout is way bigger than Pakistan among these countries. A consensus regarding this can easily be built. And then the government of those countries will direct their respective cricket boards to boycott and isolate Pakistan cricket board and its cricket team. Here you dont have SAUDI ARABIA, UAE or CHINA to side with Pakistan. There are very few countries who are playing cricket and most of them will not want to severe their political ties with India just for playing cricket with a particular country. If you dont know who Vinod RAI is then google it. He is looking at a larger picture. He knows that how it can be done. It can be done on political level. So, Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup. So its the Indian Government who will deal this. It might take time but it will happen.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity. Vinod Rai is not Nazam Sethi or Wasim Khan. Now LOL, ROFL .

 

[Manager101]

Do u think that it will be done through ICC where there will be a voting process, then u r totally wrong.

it is done at the political level.

It is done at the government level where you talk to other nations in order to build consensus. Ministry of External Affairs of India will handle this issue now. Indian diplomats and Indian Govt. will talk to the diplomats of all or major cricket playing nations who are the members of ICC. And India's political clout is way bigger than Pakistan among these countries. A consensus regarding this can easily be built. And then the government of those countries will direct their respective cricket boards to boycott and isolate Pakistan cricket board and its cricket team. Here you dont have SAUDI ARABIA, UAE or CHINA to side with Pakistan. There are very few countries who are playing cricket and most of them will not want to severe their political ties with India just for playing cricket with a particular country. If you dont know who Vinod RAI is then google it. He is looking at a larger picture. He knows that how it can be done. It can be done on political level. So, Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup. So its the Indian Government who will deal this. It might take time but it will happen.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity. Vinod Rai is not Nazam Sethi or Wasim Khan. Now LOL, ROFL .

Keep dreaming.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Do u think that it will be done through ICC where there will be a voting process, then u r totally wrong.

it is done at the political level.

It is done at the government level where you talk to other nations in order to build consensus. Ministry of External Affairs of India will handle this issue now. Indian diplomats and Indian Govt. will talk to the diplomats of all or major cricket playing nations who are the members of ICC. And India's political clout is way bigger than Pakistan among these countries. A consensus regarding this can easily be built. And then the government of those countries will direct their respective cricket boards to boycott and isolate Pakistan cricket board and its cricket team. Here you dont have SAUDI ARABIA, UAE or CHINA to side with Pakistan. There are very few countries who are playing cricket and most of them will not want to severe their political ties with India just for playing cricket with a particular country. If you dont know who Vinod RAI is then google it. He is looking at a larger picture. He knows that how it can be done. It can be done on political level. So, Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup. So its the Indian Government who will deal this. It might take time but it will happen.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity. Vinod Rai is not Nazam Sethi or Wasim Khan. Now LOL, ROFL .

You live in alternate universe. Time to own your problems and look within.

 

[the Great Khan]

Do u think that it will be done through ICC where there will be a voting process, then u r totally wrong.

it is done at the political level.

It is done at the government level where you talk to other nations in order to build consensus. Ministry of External Affairs of India will handle this issue now. Indian diplomats and Indian Govt. will talk to the diplomats of all or major cricket playing nations who are the members of ICC. And India's political clout is way bigger than Pakistan among these countries. A consensus regarding this can easily be built. And then the government of those countries will direct their respective cricket boards to boycott and isolate Pakistan cricket board and its cricket team. Here you dont have SAUDI ARABIA, UAE or CHINA to side with Pakistan. There are very few countries who are playing cricket and most of them will not want to severe their political ties with India just for playing cricket with a particular country. If you dont know who Vinod RAI is then google it. He is looking at a larger picture. He knows that how it can be done. It can be done on political level. So, Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup. So its the Indian Government who will deal this. It might take time but it will happen.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity. Vinod Rai is not Nazam Sethi or Wasim Khan. Now LOL, ROFL .������������

You have failed and will fail miserably this time. you successfully supported the terrorists who shot up the sri lankans and then proceeded to isolate us for nearly ten years. You imposed a wr on us and killed our school children. but you failed when all the ducks were in a row for you. The WOT was raging, the US was in your camp, you had everyone preening all over you and your IPL. While pakistan was mired in war, and weak leadership. our team was homeless, the ACC was in total awe of you and yours. The ICC initiated the big three and you ruled. For ten years. Yet you failed.

You failed to fully isolate us. We were resiliant. We fought back. Earned laurels from lords to Dubai. We won trophies like the world T20, the worlds number one team and the CT. Our players fought back. Our nation fought back when it wasnt even safe to go to school or the mosque. You had everything in your favour. A pliant Pakistani PM, Pakistans traditional allies the arabs walking away from us, the americans were bombing us, the british were supporting the MQM, the chinese refused to invest for nearly ten years. You sat and watched in glee and produced ads like moaka moaka to further mock our people.

And yet, yet..we stand today where you still think its 2008 or even 2003. the world has moved on. The thought that you can even contemplate a worldwide ban of a key cricket nation just shows that your "zawal" has begun. Nobody likes a bully and plenty hate the BCCI.

So give it a go. send your diplomats across the world and watch as they are shunned and seen as immature children who live in a decade that has long gone. Watch as your PM tries to run the old record of "do more" and the world says "cmon mate time to mve on and have a look at whats going on in your own home".

You will fail..again.

 

[Greenstorm]

You have failed and will fail miserably this time. you successfully supported the terrorists who shot up the sri lankans and then proceeded to isolate us for nearly ten years. You imposed a wr on us and killed our school children. but you failed when all the ducks were in a row for you. The WOT was raging, the US was in your camp, you had everyone preening all over you and your IPL. While pakistan was mired in war, and weak leadership. our team was homeless, the ACC was in total awe of you and yours. The ICC initiated the big three and you ruled. For ten years. Yet you failed.

You failed to fully isolate us. We were resiliant. We fought back. Earned laurels from lords to Dubai. We won trophies like the world T20, the worlds number one team and the CT. Our players fought back. Our nation fought back when it wasnt even safe to go to school or the mosque. You had everything in your favour. A pliant Pakistani PM, Pakistans traditional allies the arabs walking away from us, the americans were bombing us, the british were supporting the MQM, the chinese refused to invest for nearly ten years. You sat and watched in glee and produced ads like moaka moaka to further mock our people.

And yet, yet..we stand today where you still think its 2008 or even 2003. the world has moved on. The thought that you can even contemplate a worldwide ban of a key cricket nation just shows that your "zawal" has begun. Nobody likes a bully and plenty hate the BCCI.

So give it a go. send your diplomats across the world and watch as they are shunned and seen as immature children who live in a decade that has long gone. Watch as your PM tries to run the old record of "do more" and the world says "cmon mate time to mve on and have a look at whats going on in your own home".

You will fail..again.

Beautiful post. We are a resilient nation and we have bravely seen of our worst time. Future is bright inshAllah.

 

[Green Patriot]

Do u think that it will be done through ICC where there will be a voting process, then u r totally wrong.

it is done at the political level.

It is done at the government level where you talk to other nations in order to build consensus. Ministry of External Affairs of India will handle this issue now. Indian diplomats and Indian Govt. will talk to the diplomats of all or major cricket playing nations who are the members of ICC. And India's political clout is way bigger than Pakistan among these countries. A consensus regarding this can easily be built. And then the government of those countries will direct their respective cricket boards to boycott and isolate Pakistan cricket board and its cricket team. Here you dont have SAUDI ARABIA, UAE or CHINA to side with Pakistan. There are very few countries who are playing cricket and most of them will not want to severe their political ties with India just for playing cricket with a particular country. If you dont know who Vinod RAI is then google it. He is looking at a larger picture. He knows that how it can be done. It can be done on political level. So, Vinod Rai has spoken to Sports Ministry, the external affairs secretary as well as the home ministry about a possible boycott of Pakistan from international cricket and not just in the upcoming World Cup. So its the Indian Government who will deal this. It might take time but it will happen.

Rai also confirmed that the government is also in sync with the strategy to isolate and ostracize Pakistan from the sports fraternity. Vinod Rai is not Nazam Sethi or Wasim Khan. Now LOL, ROFL .������������

Oh my God this is it.The end of Pakistan.
I was afraid this would happen.The end is near as this wise old man here predicts.What will we even do now.

Gosh i am so scared.

 

[Green Patriot]

You have failed and will fail miserably this time. you successfully supported the terrorists who shot up the sri lankans and then proceeded to isolate us for nearly ten years. You imposed a wr on us and killed our school children. but you failed when all the ducks were in a row for you. The WOT was raging, the US was in your camp, you had everyone preening all over you and your IPL. While pakistan was mired in war, and weak leadership. our team was homeless, the ACC was in total awe of you and yours. The ICC initiated the big three and you ruled. For ten years. Yet you failed.

You failed to fully isolate us. We were resiliant. We fought back. Earned laurels from lords to Dubai. We won trophies like the world T20, the worlds number one team and the CT. Our players fought back. Our nation fought back when it wasnt even safe to go to school or the mosque. You had everything in your favour. A pliant Pakistani PM, Pakistans traditional allies the arabs walking away from us, the americans were bombing us, the british were supporting the MQM, the chinese refused to invest for nearly ten years. You sat and watched in glee and produced ads like moaka moaka to further mock our people.

And yet, yet..we stand today where you still think its 2008 or even 2003. the world has moved on. The thought that you can even contemplate a worldwide ban of a key cricket nation just shows that your "zawal" has begun. Nobody likes a bully and plenty hate the BCCI.

So give it a go. send your diplomats across the world and watch as they are shunned and seen as immature children who live in a decade that has long gone. Watch as your PM tries to run the old record of "do more" and the world says "cmon mate time to mve on and have a look at whats going on in your own home".

You will fail..again.

Potw
[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION]

 

[Syed1]

You have failed and will fail miserably this time. you successfully supported the terrorists who shot up the sri lankans and then proceeded to isolate us for nearly ten years. You imposed a wr on us and killed our school children. but you failed when all the ducks were in a row for you. The WOT was raging, the US was in your camp, you had everyone preening all over you and your IPL. While pakistan was mired in war, and weak leadership. our team was homeless, the ACC was in total awe of you and yours. The ICC initiated the big three and you ruled. For ten years. Yet you failed.

You failed to fully isolate us. We were resiliant. We fought back. Earned laurels from lords to Dubai. We won trophies like the world T20, the worlds number one team and the CT. Our players fought back. Our nation fought back when it wasnt even safe to go to school or the mosque. You had everything in your favour. A pliant Pakistani PM, Pakistans traditional allies the arabs walking away from us, the americans were bombing us, the british were supporting the MQM, the chinese refused to invest for nearly ten years. You sat and watched in glee and produced ads like moaka moaka to further mock our people.

And yet, yet..we stand today where you still think its 2008 or even 2003. the world has moved on. The thought that you can even contemplate a worldwide ban of a key cricket nation just shows that your "zawal" has begun. Nobody likes a bully and plenty hate the BCCI.

So give it a go. send your diplomats across the world and watch as they are shunned and seen as immature children who live in a decade that has long gone. Watch as your PM tries to run the old record of "do more" and the world says "cmon mate time to mve on and have a look at whats going on in your own home".

You will fail..again.

Wow what a post.


POTW nominee?

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

 

[Sherlock]

But PCB MD Wasim Khan says that If Pak improves its cricket then INDIA will ask them to play. So according to him PCB will work towards that goal only. He doesnt see any political hindrance in the resumption of INDO-PAK bilateral series.

Maybe because he's thinking about the sport and not politics, like yourself and others?

 

[jadaja]

It may not happen now but it might happen in future if these things keep occuring, this is the first time even India has raised this topic.

Did anyone imagine Pakistan playing home games in UAE for 10 years in 2008.These things take time as these are very big steps, isolating Pakistan from world of sport means death of cricket in Pakistan.

I would not want that to happen as world cricket needs Pakistan.But there is no conspiracy or any agendas here.

 

[ahsan17]

Did anyone imagine Pakistan playing home games in UAE for 10 years in 2008.These things take time as these are very big steps, isolating Pakistan from world of sport means death of cricket in Pakistan.

This is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, no?

 

[jadaja]

This is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison, no?

Why you think Pakistan is not hosting any home games???All it take is one country either Australia or England to agree with India, then things will move very quickly.Hope it does not happen but these attacks have to stop.

These attacks are destroying the happiness of so many people.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Why you think Pakistan is not hosting any home games???All it take is one country either Australia or England to agree with India, then things will move very quickly.Hope it does not happen but these attacks have to stop.

These attacks are destroying the happiness of so many people.

The world doesn't agree with your view on Kashmir. Its disputed territory and Kashmiris have suffered enough. Just like Olympic chiefs have denied you hosting rights to events the rest of the bodies will do the same.

Kashmir is not a new issue, its been happening from the start and a lot of innocent people have suffered and women raped. You need to understand the injustice your government is causing and the response is your soldiers being attacked. This is your problem not the worlds.

 

[Stewie]

Most indians tend to be blind to yhe plight of the kashmiris. They just want or care about the land.. they dont care about their own people who happen to have completely different governance imposed on them compared to the rest of india.. not to mention the killings and rapings indian army regularly conducts in kashmir.

 

[ali2220]

Pakistani fans must seriously be on something if they think BCCI cant make the other cricketing nations turn their backs on Pakistan.

I think they have either forgotten our status or their own, or lack of it should I say.

And is it thats why your board is huffing and puffing and making a mockery of itself?
BCCI cannot do anything, the most they can do is convince countries like ban and afgh to stay away from us, noone else will have time for your tantrums.

 

[ali2220]

It may not happen now but it might happen in future if these things keep occuring, this is the first time even India has raised this topic.

Did anyone imagine Pakistan playing home games in UAE for 10 years in 2008.These things take time as these are very big steps, isolating Pakistan from world of sport means death of cricket in Pakistan.

I would not want that to happen as world cricket needs Pakistan.But there is no conspiracy or any agendas here.

Pak playing in UAE is because of totally different reason.No country other than india refused to play Pakistan, the only question was of venue.Eng or Aus are not going to please india by agreeing with their idiotic demand.

 

[msb314]

But PCB MD Wasim Khan says that If Pak improves its cricket then INDIA will ask them to play. So according to him PCB will work towards that goal only. He doesnt see any political hindrance in the resumption of INDO-PAK bilateral series.

Wasim Khan is a nobody and frankly has no idea what he is talking about or what he has gotten himself into lol

What "improves its cricket" is he talking about? We are the no. 1 ranked T20 team yet our players are nowhere close to be found to the IPL. I think we all know the reality that India doesn't care how good our cricket is - India/Pakistan cricket ties will not resume for the next decade and will ALWAYS be under the political microscope...

 

[shaaik]

Kapil Dev Puts Weight Behind India-Pakistan's World Cup Clash

India's first World Cup winning captain Kapil Dev has put his weight behind the upcoming India-Pakistan World Cup clash. India-Pakistan's World Cup match has come under the scrutiny after 44 CRPF jawans lost their lives in the Pulwama attack. Meanwhile, both the arch-rivals are to lock horns on 16 June at Manchester.

On the other hand, Kapil Dev believes the World Cup is not all about India-Pakistan encounter. The ODI showpiece is an International event, in which all the participating teams should play each other with the same zest.

World Cup is not India-Pakistan relations.

"World Cup is not about India-Pakistan relations only. It is an international event and we should not talk about boycotting an international event because of Pakistan's PM or anything else," said Kapil Dev in ABP NEWS Shikhar Sammelan 2019.

"We are ready to do everything. Then no one speaks of a boycott but why single out cricket or sport every time?" Kapil asked.

Meanwhile, the Haryana Hurricane believe that sportspersons should never be asked to not to play. The players have known to play the game from their childhood days and they should be backed to play.

"Sportspersons should never be asked not to play. Being a cricketer myself, I know how that might feel. Playing is the only thing we know and that's what it should be," Kapil added.

In fact, earlier Kapil Dev had said that we must back the decision of the Indian government. The Indian government is yet to take the final decision on the World Cup clash. BCCI and ICC will meet on 27th February in Dubai to further discuss the matter.

"I don't hold any position to make an official comment on the issue. We all should accept what the Indian government and BCCI decides."

Kapil also backed the CoA's decision to leave the matter to ICC. "ICC should take a call on whether to ban Pakistan or not. I would only say that cricket should not be hampered in any way."

India-Pakistan match has under come under dark clouds after a brutal terrorists attack triggered a strong public reaction in the country. Many former players have given their opinions on whether India should play Pakistan or not. However, the BCCI will abide by the decision which will be made by the Indian government.

https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/e...a+pakistan+s+world+cup+clash-newsid-109681112

 

[Pakhs]

I dont think PCB should comment on the issue at all!! there is no need to give any millage to these kind of stupid statements coming out of India.

 

[Abdullah719]

Let the time come, WC is still few months away: CoA continues to play waiting game on boycotting Pakistan

The Committee of Administrators (CoA) held an important meeting on Thursday where it was decided that the decision of boycotting Pakistan from the upcoming ICC World Cup 2019 is not in their hands and will be decided by the government. After the meeting, where newly-appointed member Lt General Ravi Thodge made his first appearance in person, CoA chief Vinod Rai briefed the reporters about the issues which were discussed.

When asked whether the issue of boycotting Pakistan from ICC World Cup 2019, Rai said, “Let the time come. I have always said, it’s still four months away.” Referring to ICC’s response where it said that they cannot boycott any country, Rai added, “See, it is a process which goes on slowly. Have we been able to boycott any of the countries in Security Council or United Nations? It goes on slowly. We have started the process.”

Rai further said that the ICC was aware of India's concerns of its players' security for World Cup match against Pakistan and had been assured of adequate security measures. Rai also said that the CoA is likely to meet ICC chief Shashank Manohar in a meeting scheduled for March end to discuss some important issues.

Earlier, there was a Special General Meeting (SGM) between the BCCI officials on February 21 where they failed to take a stand on boycotting Pakistan from the World Cup. After the meeting, Rai had told the reporters, “We are writing to ICC to sever ties with boards of all member countries from whose land terror is emanating. We will also write to them that in the backdrop of the Pulwama terror attack we are worried about the security of teams/staff/ fans of cricket from India. We will also have no opening ceremony for IPL and all budget kept aside for that will be given to the families of CRPF martyrs.”

Earlier, BCCI CEO Rahul Johri wrote a letter to the International Cricket Council (ICC) apprising them of the Pulwama attack, where 40 CRPF personnel lost their lives and also asked the global body to sever ties with countries which harbour terrorism. In its response, the governing body told ICC that to sever ties with countries harbouring terrorism was not in its hands.

Pakistan and India are set to play a high-voltage match in World Cup 2019 on June 16. The two neighbours now lock horns only in global events and have not played a bilateral series since 2012-13 when Men in Green toured India for an ODI series.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ay-waiting-game-on-boycotting-pakistan/378351

 

[Sherlock]

Yes, let the time come and keep quiet until then and play the game and hope the the fans forget the overreaction by all concerned in India.

 

[Abdullah719]

We are still seeking international ban on Pakistan despite ICC snub: COA chief Vinod Rai

Committee of Administrators (COA) chairman Vinod Rai Thursday said the BCCI is still seeking an ICC ban on countries that harbour terrorism despite a recent rejection but was non-committal on whether India will boycott Pakistan at the World Cup.

At its board meeting in Dubai last week, the International Cricket Council (ICC) dismissed the BCCI’s request to sever ties with countries from where terrorism emanates though the Indian Board did not make a specific reference to Pakistan.

India and Pakistan are scheduled to play in the World Cup on June 16 and Rai said due process will be followed before the final decision is taken on boycotting the high-octane clash in the wake of the Pulwama terror attack.

“Let the time come. It is still four months away. We have expressed our concerns (over security) and they (ICC) said yes, ‘security will be tightened’ and everything else,” said Rai after a COA meeting here.

Rai insisted that the ICC has not shot down BCCI’s request of banning Pakistan from international cricket. “The letter was placed. It clearly says Pakistan. It is a process which goes slow. Have we been able to boycott any of the countries in the Security Council? The process goes on slowly. We have started a process,” said the former CAG.

In the wake of the Pulwama terror attack, in which more than 40 CRPF personnel were killed, the BCCI, in a letter to the ICC, urged the world body and its member nations to sever ties with countries which harbour terror.

The India-Pakistan matter will be among the issues the COA will discuss with ICC chairman Shashank Manohar in Mumbai later this month.

The long pending issue of BCCI becoming World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) compliant will also be discussed after the ICC expressed an urgent need to settle the matter.

“The (ICC) Board unanimously acknowledged its desire to remain WADA compliant and committed to working in partnership with the BCCI, WADA and India NADA (National Anti-Doping Agency) to resolve the issue as a matter of urgency,” the ICC said last week.

While the BCCI is not WADA compliant, the ICC and its other members are. If the BCCI doesn’t fall in line, the ICC faces the risk of being deemed WADA non-compliant, jeopardising its aim to take cricket to the Olympics by 2028. “A lot of issues will be discussed with the ICC chairman including the one concerning WADA,” added Rai.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...f-vinod-rai/story-7S6coDWYESrorzY0CCGwOL.html

 

[Savak]

We are still seeking international ban on Pakistan despite ICC snub: COA chief Vinod Rai

Committee of Administrators (COA) chairman Vinod Rai Thursday said the BCCI is still seeking an ICC ban on countries that harbour terrorism despite a recent rejection but was non-committal on whether India will boycott Pakistan at the World Cup.

At its board meeting in Dubai last week, the International Cricket Council (ICC) dismissed the BCCI’s request to sever ties with countries from where terrorism emanates though the Indian Board did not make a specific reference to Pakistan.

India and Pakistan are scheduled to play in the World Cup on June 16 and Rai said due process will be followed before the final decision is taken on boycotting the high-octane clash in the wake of the Pulwama terror attack.

“Let the time come. It is still four months away. We have expressed our concerns (over security) and they (ICC) said yes, ‘security will be tightened’ and everything else,” said Rai after a COA meeting here.

Rai insisted that the ICC has not shot down BCCI’s request of banning Pakistan from international cricket. “The letter was placed. It clearly says Pakistan. It is a process which goes slow. Have we been able to boycott any of the countries in the Security Council? The process goes on slowly. We have started a process,” said the former CAG.

In the wake of the Pulwama terror attack, in which more than 40 CRPF personnel were killed, the BCCI, in a letter to the ICC, urged the world body and its member nations to sever ties with countries which harbour terror.

The India-Pakistan matter will be among the issues the COA will discuss with ICC chairman Shashank Manohar in Mumbai later this month.

The long pending issue of BCCI becoming World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) compliant will also be discussed after the ICC expressed an urgent need to settle the matter.

“The (ICC) Board unanimously acknowledged its desire to remain WADA compliant and committed to working in partnership with the BCCI, WADA and India NADA (National Anti-Doping Agency) to resolve the issue as a matter of urgency,” the ICC said last week.

While the BCCI is not WADA compliant, the ICC and its other members are. If the BCCI doesn’t fall in line, the ICC faces the risk of being deemed WADA non-compliant, jeopardising its aim to take cricket to the Olympics by 2028. “A lot of issues will be discussed with the ICC chairman including the one concerning WADA,” added Rai.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...f-vinod-rai/story-7S6coDWYESrorzY0CCGwOL.html

Honestly speaking this is frankly ridiculous from the PCB, Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan that they haven't responded in kind to the BCCI in a be fitting language and instead sending them Invitations to the PSL final. It is their duty to defend the integrity and respect of the country and if an enemy state is going all out to really hurt you on every forum, you need to take them head on just like our armed forces did.

 

[the Great Khan]

Honestly speaking this is frankly ridiculous from the PCB, Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan that they haven't responded in kind to the BCCI in a be fitting language and instead sending them Invitations to the PSL final. It is their duty to defend the integrity and respect of the country and if an enemy state is going all out to really hurt you on every forum, you need to take them head on just like our armed forces did.

I don't think we should interpret our achai as a weakness. I can tell you Wasim khan is no shrinking violet. Sooner or later we will deal with the BCCI. This invitation strategy is the same strategy Khan used. "hey look ICC we're being nice but they continue to bully. Now the gloves are off." sabr..

 

[JibranAnsari]

Lol , Good Luck.