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"We never said that Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Hafeez aren't in our plans" : Misbah-ul-Haq

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Misbah-ul-Haq at a press conference announcing the T20I squad for the Bangladesh series:

"Our situation in T20 cricket was alarming because we lost matches to Sri Lanka and Australia. It was important for us to think about how we can get back to winning ways and that's what we took decisions based on"

"We brought back some experience in batting, some domestic performers like Ahsan Ali, Haris Rauf is performing well in T20 cricket in BBL, Amad Butt did well in the Emerging team and has brought himself into contention as a white-ball all-rounder. We have tried to form a team with a mix of young and experienced players"

"Hafeez is experienced enough, he has performed in the past. We never said Malik and Hafeez aren't in our plans, we were trying out our pool but we felt we needed them here. Hafeez is experienced and he has so many performances, he is mature. We feel he can contribute to the team and perform for Pakistan"

"We have time for the T20 World Cup, to make our best combination. We have PSL and other cricket coming up and we have plans during the months off as well. We have to experiment until we find our best combination. If we didn't get results previously, we shouldn't be scared but we should look for the best combination"

"Step by step, we are trying to check our pool of players and we can't play everyone together. We tried the likes of Ahmed and Umar, now this series we are giving a chance to Ahsan Ali. We have PSL coming up and that will give us the answers to a few questions"

"Shadab is working hard and we have Usman Qadir also as a backup and we are working with him as well and keeping everything in mind"

"In hindsight, you can say anything was a mistake or a shortcoming but you have to try different things to look for solutions. We tried our bench strength and tried some players. All these players are in our pool and we will keep them all in consideration and make the combination accordingly"

"If we were scared, we wouldn't take such decisions at all. We have tried to make a combination of new and experienced players. Shoaib Malik is in good form recently and it's good if we utilise him. We are also looking at replacements and new players. There is no such thing such as fear of losing, we are just trying to make the best combination for the T20 World Cup"

"Everyone is under consideration, Kamran Akmal also. We wanted to continue a bit with Rizwan, PSL performances and fitness etc. will also give a clearer picture going forward and see who comes into our plans. There is no such thing (about any players being barred from selection), we discuss about the likes of Salman Butt as well and whenever there is any consensus, we will surely consider him"

"It's important for us to get back to winning specially in T20 cricket where we are #1, recent series have dented our repute. BD is a dangerous team in the shorter formats and have played cricket recently, it will be a tough competition. They can beat anyone. We have to play our best cricket to win"

"I wouldn't call it a comeback for Hafeez and Malik, we were giving chances to some younger players, it's not that they were discarded from T20 due to bad performances. We will try to give them confidence, they are experienced and I think they can cope and perform for Pakistan"

"Sarfaraz has made some terrific improvements in fitness and is one of the fittest at the moment. It's straight forward for him with PSL coming up, he was dropped due to form. If he performs, he has a strong case to make a comeback"

"There's no such thing (Mohammad Amir punished for Test retirement). We have tried to be consistent with the younger players and with senior players like Wahab and Amir, it would be difficult to give chances to the likes of Haris Rauf who we want to give chances too. With senior players in the squad, it's difficult to keep them in the squad and not play them so we wanted to play young bowlers here to improve our pool of bowlers for every format"

"If you don't know about Iftikhar Ahmed's recent performances, then I can't help you"

"Hasan Ali has recovered his fitness, his comeback in competitive cricket will be in PSL"

"We want to give some more chances to some of the players in the squad, we can't scatter and play everyone. One by one, we are giving chances to all the players in the pool"

"Haris Rauf's performances in Australia weren't the only point of note, in PSL he did well on slower pitches too and he bowls well at the death and has good pace. We included him because he has bowled well in all conditions and he is in good form, it's the best time to utilise him"

"When 6 provincial teams were selected, Haris Rauf was picked for Northern by us and he took part in a conditioning camp too. He was in our future plans from earlier, along with the likes of Naseem, Musa and Hasnain. These players can gradually be in all formats. Right now, he is doing well in limited overs but he should also play more FC cricket. We spoke to M Wasim and asked to play him in 4 day games to develop him and we kept getting reports about his progress, he improved and bowled well in 4 day cricket. Slowly, we are moving forward and he has been in our plans"

Babar "We took some young players to Australia, now we have tried to bring some seniors back into the team to stop losing matches and we have a good combination of seniors and juniors"

Babar "Haris Rauf bowled well in PSL but he didn't have much experience. He played domestic cricket and played 4 day and bowled well in Australia, we felt he had improved a lot. He has good variations and death bowling so that's why he was selected"
 
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Hafeez and Malik will end up having longer careers than Tendulkar.
 
There is a reason why pak cricket is in a downward spiral...

How on earth do we keep picking these two is beyond me.
 
As much as I liked Misbah as a player for the way he played and his attitude, he has been a severe disappointment as a coach/selector.
 
Rinse and repeat

Throw youngsters at a tour of Aus and then let the seniors feast on Bangladesh as home
 
Rinse and repeat

Throw youngsters at a tour of Aus and then let the seniors feast on Bangladesh as home
How else do you get to justify the seniors selection then by explaining youngsters failed and silence all critics with seniors getting big runs against minnows — see we told you these guys are match winners and experience counts , didn’t we..
 
Malik is understandable, but hafeez?

Contact any of those franchises hafeez has played for in past few months and they will tell you he cannot even buy a run.
 
"We also never said that I wasn't in the plans either" :misbah4
 
Malik is understandable, but hafeez?

Contact any of those franchises hafeez has played for in past few months and they will tell you he cannot even buy a run.

Malik is a ridiculous selection too. Dude can't play in Australia to save his life and the WC happens to be in Australia.
 
Malik. And hafeez replaced Asif and Haris who are better replacements.
However I want to ask people here what options we have other than, akmal/ Shehzad to replace veterans
 
Wont be surprised if these losers are retained in ODI team when its picked as well :facepalm:
 
Malik is a ridiculous selection too. Dude can't play in Australia to save his life and the WC happens to be in Australia.

Absolutely, he is going to get humiliated in Aus.

However, misbah is an awful coach and selector with no long term vision, hence he only picks players on a series by series basis.

For that reason, malik is an understandable pick because he is a spin basher and has done well in bpl, whilst hafeez has done absolutely zilch and doesn't warrant a selection under any circumstances.
 
Misbah is a curse to Pakistan cricket. He has dropped players whom he had beef with (Aamir and Wahab) and what's the excuse for Fakhar. Fakhtar is the main reason we were #1 as he used to give us flying starts. With him not in the team, who is going to score fast?

The squad looks more suited for One days and not T20s. Pakistan was on a winning streak till the australia T20s before world cup where Sarfaraz and other players were rested. Why fix it if it isn't broke? Bring back sarfaraz as captain, include Fakhar, Aamir, Wahab and drop atleast Hafeez as he is all done now. Come on! Use the same pool of players that gave us the #1 ranking.

If we lose to Bangladesh at home, I say kick Misbah out of Pakistan cricket for good. He is an absolute curse and a failure as Captain, coach, selector and even a cricketer.
 
Forget Misbah's comments for a second, even Babar is terrifying me with some of the nonsense he's speaking here.

Does he really believe Hafeez and Malik "were not discarded because of poor performances" ?! Kamran Akmal is still in consideration ? God help us all.
 
Hafeez should have been brought back because whenever Babar failed in the top order Hafeez picked things up in the lower order. I don't understand why Malik was picked? What has he done recently to deserve this spot over a youngster?

Why are both players mentioned together, Malik is well past his prime while Hafeez is a very good t20 player.
 
Forget Misbah's comments for a second, even Babar is terrifying me with some of the nonsense he's speaking here.

Does he really believe Hafeez and Malik "were not discarded because of poor performances" ?! Kamran Akmal is still in consideration ? God help us all.
You will find earlier posts where I’ve said the same thing, as I for one never ever believed Hafeez was dropped for poor performances - he was just rested.

It’s purely coincidental that his ‘rest’ breaks from the team usually happen on tours against Aus/SA and his ‘comebacks’ are usually against Zim/Bangladesh .. I’m expecting Hafeez to play till the last game in this series even if he scores 0 in all the preceding innings - but if an Abid Ali or someone else gets 0 in the first innings, they’ll probably get no further game v Bangladesh.
 
In one breath, we want youth to be given a chance. In the next breath they recall Malik and Hafeez.
 
Forget Misbah's comments for a second, even Babar is terrifying me with some of the nonsense he's speaking here.

Does he really believe Hafeez and Malik "were not discarded because of poor performances" ?! Kamran Akmal is still in consideration ? God help us all.

Just wanted to mention that there were only two comments from Babar, rest was all Misbah...

Babar "We took some young players to Australia, now we have tried to bring some seniors back into the team to stop losing matches and we have a good combination of seniors and juniors"

Babar "Haris Rauf bowled well in PSL but he didn't have much experience. He played domestic cricket and played 4 day and bowled well in Australia, we felt he had improved a lot. He has good variations and death bowling so that's why he was selected"

Just these two quotes.

I am not even sure why Babar and Nadeem Khan were sitting there to be honest...
 
Mohammad Hafeez (Didnt play a T20 in 2019)

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Shoaib Malik

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Posters targeting Babar when he said that they werent dropped on performance might need to look at this.

Like others I want to see young faces too but at the same time reality of lack of options in middle order available and Pak loosing 5 T20s in a row (Except 1 which was drawn) in the World T20 year was definitely a worry. Maybe Hussain Talat could have been tried but no youngster is not actually breaking the door of T20 selection as of now.

Fans and team management both wanted to move on from Malik and Hafeez but didnt work out as expected and there isnt much to fall back upon so intention is to give old ingredients a chance to create that winning recipe before the world T20.
 
Misbah the leader ensured we were in #9 position in ODI and #8 in T20. I think we are heading that way with Misbah the coach and selector. Tough times ahead for fans.

Once again I am saying this: MISBAH IS THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO PAKISTAN CRICKET
 
They are afraid of a Bangla white wash. Just like Mickey Misbah also taking the easier option. Mickey/Inzi did the same after the Asia cup humiliation/massacre.
 
Although he's not really concerned about T20's. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] will be loving the recall of these two youngsta beauties. :afridi
 
How else do you get to justify the seniors selection then by explaining youngsters failed and silence all critics with seniors getting big runs against minnows — see we told you these guys are match winners and experience counts , didn’t we..

Instead of bashing the performance of players with barely an experience in a country where even our greats have failed, why don’t you instead show the me the performances of Malik and Hafeez when it mattered? How have they done in a World Cup? What is their majestic pedigree in a Australia?


Posters like you treat young players like senior pros and senior pros like babies. It is a fundamental issue with pak cricket
 
Can't think of anyone I'd include instead, at this point, besides Hussain Talat & Saif Badar.

Hoping those two alongside Sharjeel have a good PSL.
 
Absolutely pathetic decision

I would have taken Sarfraz as a specialist batsman over both Hafeez and Malik.

When was the last time Hafeez did anything useful in T20s? Malik could not cross single digit scores in world cup.

All the joy of seeing Aamir and Wahab dropped has been ruined by the return of these TTFs.
 
Can't think of anyone I'd include instead, at this point, besides Hussain Talat & Saif Badar.

Hoping those two alongside Sharjeel have a good PSL.

Exactly. People criticize selections without mentioning alternatives because they know that those are mediocre as well. However, they like to keep believing that there are countless youngsters knocking at the door as this allows them to criticize selections. Admitting like you did will destroy the fun for them.

Saif Badar is rated highly by the coaches in Pakistan but at the moment he hasnt done enough for an international call up and needs one breakthrough LOI season in either PSL or national one day cup 2020.

Hussain Talat could have been there but he also needs to work on his innings building as that aspect was pretty weak vs SA (Maybe due to he wrong position he was being played at) so he was dropped by Mickey/ Inzi regime themselves for the Eng T20s. Still he is one of the better ones we have and atleast he performed in national T20 cup 2019.
 
Instead of bashing the performance of players with barely an experience in a country where even our greats have failed, why don’t you instead show the me the performances of Malik and Hafeez when it mattered? How have they done in a World Cup? What is their majestic pedigree in a Australia?


Posters like you treat young players like senior pros and senior pros like babies. It is a fundamental issue with pak cricket

Easy...poster was actually agreeing with you. He's just highlighting the tricks used to bustle in the mediocre past their sell by date seniors for the easy series.
 
After all the drama of whether Bangladesh will visit or not the selectors choose the almighty Hafeez and Malik to save their jobs...
 
Amir dropped
Musa in
Hafeez in-------most ridiculous decision
Wahab dropped

Misbah is destroying Pakistan cricket.

Watching India-Australia game or even WI_Ireland matches, its obvious white ball cricket needs young players and power hitters and we are bringing back 43 year old Hafeez.
 
Hafeez & Malik !!! This is ridiculous.. no wonder PCB is a laughing stock...The sooner Misbah goes the better..
 
How else do you get to justify the seniors selection then by explaining youngsters failed and silence all critics with seniors getting big runs against minnows — see we told you these guys are match winners and experience counts , didn’t we..

Easy...poster was actually agreeing with you. He's just highlighting the tricks used to bustle in the mediocre past their sell by date seniors for the easy series.

Apologies

I get all bull in the china shop whenever selections like this are done.

We have too many people who have selective memories
 
By the time we reach WT20 we will have below squad :

A Shehzad
B Azam
K akmal
Hafeez
U Akmal
Malik
Anwar Ali
S Tanvir
Yasir Shah
Wahab Riaz
Md Irfan
 
Apologies

I get all bull in the china shop whenever selections like this are done.

We have too many people who have selective memories
No worries , if you’ve seen my posts on here you will know that I’m the biggest critic of mediocre and failed seniors getting selected again and again - I was just highlighting the tricks the selectors/management use by throwing in youngsters against tough opposition to set them up to fail and then recalling ‘favourite’ seniors against minnows to give them every chance to succeed.
 
Although he's not really concerned about T20's. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] will be loving the recall of these two youngsta beauties. :afridi

Sometimes, when you win a Test against a minnow like Sri Lanka, there is a risk of letting Misbah take some of the credit.

Fortunately Misbah then does something so monumentally dumb (like recalling these old clowns or selecting Musa Khan instead of Haris Rauf) that everyone can see that he is an incompetent buffoon who worships old age.
 
Sometimes, when you win a Test against a minnow like Sri Lanka, there is a risk of letting Misbah take some of the credit.

Fortunately Misbah then does something so monumentally dumb (like recalling these old clowns or selecting Musa Khan instead of Haris Rauf) that everyone can see that he is an incompetent buffoon who worships old age.

Give him a year and a large enough sample size before you start (or rather tediously continue) the accusations.

Right now he's trying to plug gaps with experienced heads. If there are aggressive middle order alternatives to Hafeez and Malik with a consistent track record at domestic, let's hear them? ...(Tumbleweeds)
 
Give him a year and a large enough sample size before you start (or rather tediously continue) the accusations.

Right now he's trying to plug gaps with experienced heads. If there are aggressive middle order alternatives to Hafeez and Malik with a consistent track record at domestic, let's hear them? ...(Tumbleweeds)

Seems like our talent pool is all time low these days when we can’t find replacements for these tried and tested failures.
 
Seems like our talent pool is all time low these days when we can’t find replacements for these tried and tested failures.

Agreesmd, that is the real issue here, my friend. Let's hope the new domestic system and better scouting can give us genuine alternatives in the future to these guys
 
Seems like our talent pool is all time low these days when we can’t find replacements for these tried and tested failures.

Agreesmd, that is the real issue here, my friend. Let's hope the new domestic system and better scouting can give us genuine alternatives in the future to these guys

These TTF's have around for the best part of 20 years. It's a format that came around after these two debuted lol. Therefore, I don't think it's beyond reasonable that we could expect some younger players to be given an opportunity in respect of these two.

We're don't nurture or develop enough players at the right time but another issue is the corruption and bias that's prevalent in the system. These two have a mafia like backing which will ensure their place is cemented util they decide to retire.

Virat Kohli's and Glenn Maxwell's don't come straight off the bat.
 
The fact that he has to name them explicitly says a lot.
 
Next it will be “We didn’t say Azhar and Shafiq should only play test cricket”.
 
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