West Indies vs Pakistan | 1st ODI | Tarouba | August 08 | Match Discussion

[RidiculousMan]

Don't think conditions have much for pacers. Surface is slow as usual in WI.

muqeem might eat windies today

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Pakistani seamers should enjoy ODIs after a long time. Only 1 ball after 34 over mark.

They should get a lot more reverse at the death.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Very poor bowling so far

 

[mominsaigol]

This guy carty is good technique wise. Lewis is a bit dodgy though

 

[Rana]

This guy carty is good technique wise. Lewis is a bit dodgy though

Lewis very dangerous player once set

 

[Energy]

Pakistani seamers should enjoy ODIs after a long time. Only 1 ball after 34 over mark.

They should get a lot more reverse at the death.

Need bowlers too. Naseem and Shaheen trundling away won't do much.

 

[Rana]

Rizwan and Babar now putting Hesson’s career in danger

 

[Rana]

The way to dominate Moqim is to knock him off his line early on

Once he gets a grip, he’s a very good bowler

 

[PakPremi]

Babar and Rizwan bowling not penetrative. West Indies battting comfortably.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Nikhil_cric My predictions for this series.

1) Babar gets one century finally after 2 years.

2) Rizwan gets 2 50's.

3) Pakistan wins series 3-0 or 2-1(assuming no rain)

4) Saim Ayub continues his killer odi form

5) The bowlers perform.

Tonight's prediction

- If Pakistan bats first, 302-7, Wi 228-10

If wi bats first then 272-8, Pakistan 273-6

@Sachin fan @Nikhil_cric

Did i seal Pakistan's fate

 

[Ahmed216]

Sajid Khan should be playing every ODI game for Pak. We lack experience in spin department. Handy batter too.

 

[Sachin fan]

Need bowlers too. Naseem and Shaheen trundling away won't do much.

At least Shaheen takes a couple of wickets and bowls 140+

 

[AZulfi]

Bowling looks pretty ordinary at the moment

 

[mominsaigol]

Sajid Khan should be playing every ODI game for Pak. We lack experience in spin department. Handy batter too.

He has an awful whiteball record.

Just letting you know while he is good, he is suited for redball. He cant actually spin. He has good line and length and those banana pitches allow him to be effective.

He has more discipline to bowl accurately then noman and abrar but overall he will be exposed in whiteball.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lewis very dangerous player once set

Great lofted strokes. Weak defense. Carty is more rounded

 

[Ahmed216]

He bats left handed bowls right handed.
Amazing athlete Hussain talat reminds me of Lance klusener

 

[Nasty Naz]

Carty getting out a full toss leg side delivery like he is a Pakistani batter.

 

[batandballbattle]

worst ball of the day gets a wicket

 

[mominsaigol]

Great lofted strokes. Weak defense. Carty is more rounded

Ofcourse carty gets out when I praise him. God is angry with me ig

 

[Markhor]

That was a wretched bit of cricket !

 

[Ahmed216]

Sajid Khan should be playing every ODI game for Pak. We lack experience in spin department. Handy batter too.

He's only played 38 List A games.
Domestic one day pitches are real belters.
In internationals you get surfaces with a lot more help like in the game being played today.

I think his aggression is suited to white ball cricket.

 

[zahid01]

Sajid khan won't do any better than current spinners please forget that he performed rank turner's on descent wickets he will go for plenty

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

As if rana wasn't enough, they went ahead and also got Talat.

Kamran Ghulam, Tayyab Tahir, & Niazi all did decent to ok & showed some signs of promise. At least one if not two should be in the team.

 

[mominsaigol]

Good 50 from Lewis shpuld easily go on to get a 100

 

[Rana]

Great captaincy:

Windies struggling with Sufyan and Agha

Captain Rizwan brings in Faheem instead of Moqim to ease the pressure and allow Hope and Lewis to resettle

 

[Nasty Naz]

Faheem getting treated like a club bowler. Feels like even Talat would be a better bowler than him these days.

 

[mominsaigol]

Great captaincy:

Windies struggling with Sufyan and Agha

Captain Rizwan brings in Faheem instead of Moqim to ease the pressure and allow Hope and Lewis to resettle

His spin field settings are awful as well. Giving very easy singles

 

[Rana]

Lewis under pressure because right handers ain’t doing their part in the match up against the off spinner

 

[mominsaigol]

Lewis under pressure because right handers ain’t doing their part in the match up against the off spinner

He was until captain brought on saim ayub to bowl and not sufiyan

 

[mominsaigol]

He was until captain brought on saim ayub to bowl and not sufiyan

Nvm, jinx no 3 lol

 

[Nasty Naz]

Honestly looked like Shaheen was ready to drop that but great to see him catch it.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Think West Indies missed a trick going with just one specialist spinner. Chase can chip in with a few overs but he is not really a threatening option.

 

[Rana]

Think West Indies missed a trick going with just one specialist spinner. Chase can chip in with a few overs but he is not really a threatening option.

They have Roston Chase too, he bowled very well in the T20 series

 

[mominsaigol]

One thing I appreciate about wi is that they havent slowed dowm

 

[Rana]

One thing I appreciate about wi is that they havent slowed dowm

All the top teams besides Pakistan do not slow down

 

[PakPremi]

No need to bowl Ayub , he is bowling far too lose today.

 

[Rana]

What is this clown captain doing?

Saving Sufyan for Windies to get 200 first??

 

[gazza619]

Sajid Khan should be playing every ODI game for Pak. We lack experience in spin department. Handy batter too.

Exactly. I would have picked him instead of Hussain Talat / Faheem Ashraf

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

They have Roston Chase too, he bowled very well in the T20 series

I know but as I mentioned he is not exactly someone you can rely on

 

[PakPremi]

Rizwan keeping good grip on the match.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

I know but as I mentioned he is not exactly someone you can rely on

Wi lol can't play spin had abrar been playing today wi would have been all out by now i think hesson should play another spinner next game.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol Pak good in fielding today, 4 out of 4 catches

 

[AZulfi]

It is clear that Windies are very comfortable against pacers and esp. against medium pacers like Faheem. Pakistan should play two specialist spinners against them.

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953841623063805988

 

[Rana]

Brian Lara

What a playah!

 

[Rana]

Bishop recons Windies have batted pretty fast for these conditions

250 will be a big score here

 

[Nasty Naz]

Spinners sure have done a great job of applying the chokehold and both are part timers too. I hope Pakistan gets away from selecting Faheem because of his batting where he is due to bat at 8. If you're relying on that, it's a pretty poor team anyways. I would like to see a specialist bowler instead.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953841623063805988

Good to hear he will be able to play Asia Cup

 

[PakPremi]

Good field placing to block singles and all fielders responding well with their energetic fielding.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not a fan of playing so many all rounders for no reason. Talat and Faheen got 1 over

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I want Windies to score big, let's give this PCT a tough challenge. They may lose but it would be real learning lol

 

[Nasty Naz]

Faheem steaming in with his 120 clicks.

Just shows the lack of fitness on his end. He was bowling 135-140 consistently back in 2018.

 

[cricfan432]

Aamer jamal cant be worse bat than faheem who is bowling bouncers at 123kph, if you ask me faheem should play as batsman if he should play at all

 

[RidiculousMan]

Bishop and Braithwaite are deep in their thought of the structure of West Indies Cricket. Lol

 

[PakPremi]

West Indies have slowed down quite a bit , especially unable to hit boundaries. Soon they need to try to get some.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Sufiyan overs crucial here, should have been allowed to end early. But anyway good opportunity to get the experience of bowling in 40s now.

 

[PakPremi]

Aamer jamal cant be worse bat than faheem who is bowling bouncers at 123kph, if you ask me faheem should play as batsman if he should play at all

Abbass Afridi can bat and bowl better than Faheem, injustice by selectors to not play him ahead of Faheem. Aamer J looked a bit messed up recently in form and fitness.

 

[heddie19]

How much change does 1 ball after 34 overs bring? Quite a lot, I must say.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Shai Hope 50 comes up at 67 SR

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Abbass Afridi can bat and bowl better than Faheem, injustice by selectors to not play him ahead of Faheem. Aamer J looked a bit messed up recently in form and fitness.

Yes Abbas Afridi is better suited than Faheem and Jamal

 

[Rana]

West Indies have slowed down quite a bit , especially unable to hit boundaries. Soon they need to try to get some.

Why? Because Pakistan will chase this easily?

 

[IMMY69]

Just tuned in to see our fast bowlers have adapted to the wicket and are all bowling slow/medium

 

[PakPremi]

Why? Because Pakistan will chase this easily?

How do I know they will or not, but the score being set up by WI looks like just about Par or maybe little more if last 5 over hittings go in their favour.

 

[shaz619]

Just tuned in to see our fast bowlers have adapted to the wicket and are all bowling slow/medium

I don’t think Shaheen needs to adjust too much for that

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Same old story for Shai Hope. Another good score at a SR that is way too slow for the modern demands of the game.

His ODI SR has always remained in the 70s.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Just tuned in to see our fast bowlers have adapted to the wicket and are all bowling slow/medium

Tbh on these pitches. Slower bowls and cutters work well

 

[Vikram1989]

Good to hear he will be able to play Asia Cup

Any idea how long he took after an injury in ct 25 first match?.I think both injuries are same.

 

[RidiculousMan]

It's always a joy to watch left arm wrist spinner in rhythm

 

[IAJ]

Beautiful stadium.

Pardon my ignorance, why isn’t Saud Shakeel playing? Or is he a Test player only now?

 

[IAJ]

I don’t mind seeing Hussain Talat getting a chance again as he has done the hard yards in domestic cricket. But what wonders can he do at number 7? I don’t like the balance of this side. Should have played a proper bowler or a proper allrounder.

If he still is seen as a hitter then no. 7 should be fine for him.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Any idea how long he took after an injury in ct 25 first match?.I think both injuries are same.

Injuries may be same but it's not necessary that the severity is the same

 

[msb314]

There is no better feeling then watching a TTF like Shaheen getting hammered lol

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Bad new for Pak bowlers lol

 

[PakPremi]

There is no better feeling then watching a TTF like Shaheen getting hammered lol

But he is not getting hammered.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Good stuff from Shaheen. Not quite at his best but overall has been solid.

 

[IAJ]

There is no better feeling then watching a TTF like Shaheen getting hammered lol

Hammered? He has taken 3 wickets and not expensive either lol

 

[PakPremi]

Pakistan bowling and fielding have been most disciplined I have seen from them for a long time. Just jinxed it last two balls.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Naseem Shah looks done. He has lost a good 10 KPH pace and his control over line.

 

[RidiculousMan]

But he is not getting hammered.

Let some people dream

 

[AZulfi]

Pakistani seamers should enjoy ODIs after a long time. Only 1 ball after 34 over mark.

They should get a lot more reverse at the death.

You also need ability

The current pacers incl. Shaheen are not known for their mastery of reverse swing. They are not even 50% as good as Imran and the two Ws