What are Bangladeshi fans expecting out of Asia Cup?

[Titan24]

Bangladesh was able to beat India, Pakistan and South Africa in one home season in ODIs. Many factors played a role in that especially for Pakistan with new captain and some new players and experimentation in the squad but undeniably Bangladesh did play some really good cricket to beat top teams.

Do Bangladeshi fans believe that they are good enough to win this cup or are they a little afraid of whats coming there way and that feeling and talk of we did beat you in a series that one time might be overshadowed with the latest contests.

No doubt Bangladesh has improved in one format that is ODI's but do the fans think that their team is good enough to regularly beat top teams and win tournaments while confirming that the purple patch season wasnt a fluke?

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Bangladesh was able to beat India, Pakistan and South Africa in one home season in ODIs. Many factors played a role in that especially for Pakistan with new captain and some new players and experimentation in the squad but undeniably Bangladesh did play some really good cricket to beat top teams.

Do Bangladeshi fans believe that they are good enough to win this cup or are they a little afraid of whats coming there way and that feeling and talk of we did beat you in a series that one time might be overshadowed with the latest contests.

No doubt Bangladesh has improved in one format that is ODI's but do the fans think that their team is good enough to regularly beat top teams and win tournaments while confirming that the purple patch season wasnt a fluke?

Expectations is to compete at the very least. Play in such a way that XYZ team being the champions or playing in the final is not a foregone conclusion (for anyone with an IQ above 20).

The expected win vs WI in the ODI series will of course boost confidence and expectations. The surprise win in the T20 series against team could yield complacency and that is going to one of the biggest battles.

Strengths: top order batting
Weaknesses: lower order hitting, lack of a wrist spinner, one-dimensional spin attack, seam attack inconsistent

The fortunes will depend on how many of those weaknesses get addressed in any given game/tournament.

 

[Titan24]

Expectations is to compete at the very least. Play in such a way that XYZ team being the champions or playing in the final is not a foregone conclusion (for anyone with an IQ above 20).

The expected win vs WI in the ODI series will of course boost confidence and expectations. The surprise win in the T20 series against team could yield complacency and that is going to one of the biggest battles.

Strengths: top order batting
Weaknesses: lower order hitting, lack of a wrist spinner, one-dimensional spin attack, seam attack inconsistent

The fortunes will depend on how many of those weaknesses get addressed in any given game/tournament.

Good analysis. I agree with lack of wrist spinner and any quality seamer who can take wickets regularly. Mustafizur and Mortaza are decent but wicket taking ability is not their strength and that is why Rubel has been sticked with for so long as he does that impression of wicket taking pacer but that happens once in a while. Taskin unfortunately regressed big time due to his action issues and other temperamental issues.

Top order and middle order is good in ODIs and can put pressure on opposition but above few factors will play a role in lack of consistency.

I am not sure why Bangladesh havent been able to find a single monstrous hitter in lower order for so long, what I think is selectors are more interested in having proper batting till no 7 and are not interested in developing one. Nasir Hossain was one good hitter but he also regressed to some extent.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Bangladesh are in for a serious reality-check against Afghanistan. Their batting is sub-par and their bowling is one of the weakest in the world. Rashid and Mujeeb are going to spin circles around their batsmen just like they did in that T20 series Bangladesh fans are trying to forget

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Bangladesh are in for a serious reality-check against Afghanistan. Their batting is sub-par and their bowling is one of the weakest in the world. Rashid and Mujeeb are going to spin circles around their batsmen just like they did in that T20 series Bangladesh fans are trying to forget

There is another new bowler in Afg named Zahir Khan. Bowling beautifully in Vitality t20 blast. He is another great prospect.

 

[Pakpak]

Bangladesh was able to beat India, Pakistan and South Africa in one home season in ODIs. Many factors played a role in that especially for Pakistan with new captain and some new players and experimentation in the squad but undeniably Bangladesh did play some really good cricket to beat top teams.

Do Bangladeshi fans believe that they are good enough to win this cup or are they a little afraid of whats coming there way and that feeling and talk of we did beat you in a series that one time might be overshadowed with the latest contests.

No doubt Bangladesh has improved in one format that is ODI's but do the fans think that their team is good enough to regularly beat top teams and win tournaments while confirming that the purple patch season wasnt a fluke?

That is almost half a decade ago when people like Shadab weren;t even teens , my God how much are people going to keep on harping about that?

 

[RainMan_]

That is almost half a decade ago when people like Shadab weren;t even teens , my God how much are people going to keep on harping about that?

That was just couple of years back. Even now, Bangladesh has the ability of beating Pakistan at both mirpur and UAE. This two teams r very close in terms of strength in tests and ODIs.

 

[Pakpak]

That was just couple of years back. Even now, Bangladesh has the ability of beating Pakistan at both mirpur and UAE. This two teams r very close in terms of strength in tests and ODIs.

You lot beat us in 2014, the 3-0. Couple of years back

As for the bold... [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], talk about delusions.

 

[RainMan_]

You lot beat us in 2014, the 3-0. Couple of years back

As for the bold... [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], talk about delusions.

U got whitewashed in April 2015 my friend. If u can call 3 years as half a decade then I think I also have the privilege to call it couple of years, right?

How much difference do u think is there between no 5 and no 7 odi team or between no 7 and no 9 test team? It's not like I m comparing BD with a top ranked team, right?

 

[BDfanforever]

There is another new bowler in Afg named Zahir Khan. Bowling beautifully in Vitality t20 blast. He is another great prospect.

Instead of worrying about some unknown bowlers, I would worry about how your players are getting their toes broken even in the hands of mighty Chris Woakes now.

 

[mak36]

That was just couple of years back. Even now, Bangladesh has the ability of beating Pakistan at both mirpur and UAE. This two teams r very close in terms of strength in tests and ODIs.

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...ladesh-1st-test-bangaldesh-in-wi-and-usa-2018

 

[Syed1]

That is almost half a decade ago when people like Shadab weren;t even teens , my God how much are people going to keep on harping about that?

I feel conscious when I talk about CT win even though it was just a year ago, but these Deshis still shamelessly harp about that one series from four five years ago, despite the fact that we have pummelled them multiple times after that series

 

[Syed1]

U got whitewashed in April 2015 my friend. If u can call 3 years as half a decade then I think I also have the privilege to call it couple of years, right?

How much difference do u think is there between no 5 and no 7 odi team or between no 7 and no 9 test team? It's not like I m comparing BD with a top ranked team, right?

When was the last time BD won an international tournament? Yeah that's right.... NEVER

 

[coy0607]

U got whitewashed in April 2015 my friend. If u can call 3 years as half a decade then I think I also have the privilege to call it couple of years, right?

How much difference do u think is there between no 5 and no 7 odi team or between no 7 and no 9 test team? It's not like I m comparing BD with a top ranked team, right?

Pakistan is a very different team than in 2015

New captain, and Faheem, Shadab, Babar, Fakhar, Hassan, Imam, Shinwari, Asif Ali.. Eight top players weren't even there

It's delusional to think Bangladesh can be competitive with Pakistan.

 

[RainMan_]

When was the last time BD won an international tournament? Yeah that's right.... NEVER

How's it even relevant to this topic? Bangladesh haven't been playing international cricket for that long to win multiple international tournaments. Even south africa haven't won a single international tournament as of yet, but West indies have. Does it mean, West indies is stronger than South Africa.

I am not even undermining the achievements of Pak. Just saying that they r a decent team and very close to Banglerdash on terms of strength. Current ranking and the result of the last two Asia Cup also seem to agree with my point.

 

[emm-tee]

Bangladesh was able to beat India, Pakistan and South Africa in one home season in ODIs. Many factors played a role in that especially for Pakistan with new captain and some new players and experimentation in the squad but undeniably Bangladesh did play some really good cricket to beat top teams.

Do Bangladeshi fans believe that they are good enough to win this cup or are they a little afraid of whats coming there way and that feeling and talk of we did beat you in a series that one time might be overshadowed with the latest contests.

No doubt Bangladesh has improved in one format that is ODI's but do the fans think that their team is good enough to regularly beat top teams and win tournaments while confirming that the purple patch season wasnt a fluke?

Obviously, everyone is competing to win so naturally fans are hoping that their respective team wins.

 

[RainMan_]

Pakistan is a very different team than in 2015

New captain, and Faheem, Shadab, Babar, Fakhar, Hassan, Imam, Shinwari, Asif Ali.. Eight top players weren't even there

It's delusional to think Bangladesh can be competitive with Pakistan.

There is no reason for u to overestimate the strength of ur team. Yes, I admit that Bangladesh played poorly the last time they they toured Southafrica and New Zealand. But so did Pakistan.

U r calling me delusional but sadly u r the one who's writting off the other team based on ur personal whim as well as grossly overestimating the capability of a 5th ranked odi team that just got whitewashed in New Zealand. Did those players whom u mentioned in ur post managed to save Pakistan from getting whitewashed?

I m not even saying that BD will blow away PAK. I m just saying that these two teams r very close in terms of strength, at least their current ranking and recent records suggest that.

 

[saeed5646]

We should be least worried about bd .afghanistan is more dangerous than bd due to their superior bowling and recent mauling they have given to bd have proof they will over take them very soon

 

[saeed5646]

We should be least worried about bd .afghanistan is more dangerous than bd due to their superior bowling and recent mauling they have given to bd have proof they will over take them very soon

 

[BDfanforever]

We should be least worried about bd .afghanistan is more dangerous than bd due to their superior bowling and recent mauling they have given to bd have proof they will over take them very soon

You dont have to worry about AFG. They are not even in your group.

You dont have to be that delusional haha.

 

[mak36]

You dont have to worry about AFG. They are not even in your group.

You dont have to be that delusional haha.

And if Afghanistan qualify for the Super Four Stage?

 

[aloo paratha]

A thrashing, what else?

 

[saeed5646]

You dont have to worry about AFG. They are not even in your group.

You dont have to be that delusional haha.

You would be naive to not consider they can qualify to next stage and have a match against pak.they are more than capabale of doing that

 

[saeed5646]

There is no reason for u to overestimate the strength of ur team. Yes, I admit that Bangladesh played poorly the last time they they toured Southafrica and New Zealand. But so did Pakistan.

U r calling me delusional but sadly u r the one who's writting off the other team based on ur personal whim as well as grossly overestimating the capability of a 5th ranked odi team that just got whitewashed in New Zealand. Did those players whom u mentioned in ur post managed to save Pakistan from getting whitewashed?

I m not even saying that BD will blow away PAK. I m just saying that these two teams r very close in terms of strength, at least their current ranking and recent records suggest that.

What strength are you talking our odi in 2015 in which player like azhar ali bulley your team like minnow so you can imagine what will fakhar zaman and babar azam will do to your team who are superior batter than azhar ali in odis.
what is your team ranking ?.
how many batsmen you have in odis top 10 ?
how many you have in top 10 odi bowling?

 

[Rayyman]

Beating Sri Lanka. Looking forward to the BD vs SL rivalry.

As for Pakistan. We will smash them in the home grounds.

 

[kuskash]

This is Bang’s cup to lose.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

It's delusional to think Bangladesh can be competitive with Pakistan.

Pakistan are slightly ahead of Bangladesh in both batting and bowling. It will be a very close matchup.

Of course if it goes down to the final over, Pakistan will win even if they are defending just 1 run, or need to score 30 off 6. But asides from those scenarios, it should be anyone's game ie whoever makes fewer mistakes on the day.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan are slightly ahead of Bangladesh in both batting and bowling. It will be a very close matchup.

Of course if it goes down to the final over, Pakistan will win even if they are defending just 1 run, or need to score 30 off 6. But asides from those scenarios, it should be anyone's game ie whoever makes fewer mistakes on the day.

Lol. There isn't even a comparison between the bowling attacks of Pakistan and Bangladesh, one is one of the best in the world while the other is one of the worst. Batting-wise Pakistan are far ahead of Bangladesh aswell.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Bangladesh will first look to qualify from their group. Both Sri Lanka and Afghanistan can knock them out

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Pakistan are slightly ahead of Bangladesh in both batting and bowling. It will be a very close matchup.

Of course if it goes down to the final over, Pakistan will win even if they are defending just 1 run, or need to score 30 off 6. But asides from those scenarios, it should be anyone's game ie whoever makes fewer mistakes on the day.

Pak have lost ODI series in UAE to teams with good pace bowling unit like Aus, NZ, SA and Eng. They have won against the spin oriented teams. Bangladesh don't really have a strong pace lineup. Mortaza is the only reliable one. Mustafiz is too injury prone.

 

[bujhee kom]

To be highly competitive and win at least 2 games.

 

[Dios]

It will be a Bangladesh - India final.

Bangladesh have been in the final of 2 of the last 3 Asia Cups and 3 out of 4 if you count the Nidahas trophy which was basically a mini Asia Cup.

 

[hadi123]

I'd be very surprised if Bangladesh make the final. I think their fans would be happy with them making the super 4 for a starter, and not getting smashed by anyone.

 

[Sherlock]

Don't be surprised to see them get to the final with the likes of India and Pakistan not playing their best XI's.

Think Bangladesh will do better than expected.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

It will be a Bangladesh - India final.

Bangladesh have been in the final of 2 of the last 3 Asia Cups and 3 out of 4 if you count the Nidahas trophy which was basically a mini Asia Cup.

An Asia Cup without 2 of the major sides.OK.

 

[topspin]

It will be a Bangladesh - India final.

Bangladesh have been in the final of 2 of the last 3 Asia Cups and 3 out of 4 if you count the Nidahas trophy which was basically a mini Asia Cup.

I would worry about beating Afghanistan first because I think they're bound to beat Bangladesh again.

 

[topspin]

Pakistan are slightly ahead of Bangladesh in both batting and bowling. It will be a very close matchup.

Of course if it goes down to the final over, Pakistan will win even if they are defending just 1 run, or need to score 30 off 6. But asides from those scenarios, it should be anyone's game ie whoever makes fewer mistakes on the day.

Uhmmm - the only close match up for Bangladesh will be against Afghanistan who will be favourites.

 

[RainMan_]

What strength are you talking our odi in 2015 in which player like azhar ali bulley your team like minnow so you can imagine what will fakhar zaman and babar azam will do to your team who are superior batter than azhar ali in odis.
what is your team ranking ?.
how many batsmen you have in odis top 10 ?
how many you have in top 10 odi bowling?

We play as a unit and don't rely on one or two specific player to win us matches. U don't need multiple players in top ten to win a cricket match.

But since u halve already brought up this hilarious ranking argument, let me tell u one thing, ATG allrounder Shakib Al Hasan is better than any Pakistani player currently playing for Pakistan. I know, It's an unpleasant thing for u to swallow. But reality can't be ignored, right?

As for the rankings, we r currently the no 7 odi team in the world and expecting to break into top 5 once our home season begins.

 

[Rayyman]

Pak have lost ODI series in UAE to teams with good pace bowling unit like Aus, NZ, SA and Eng. They have won against the spin oriented teams. Bangladesh don't really have a strong pace lineup. Mortaza is the only reliable one. Mustafiz is too injury prone.

Last time Pak. played these teams in UAE was over 3 years ago.

Trash players like Azhar, Jamshed, YK, and Fawad were playing.

 

[coy0607]

We play as a unit and don't rely on one or two specific player to win us matches. U don't need multiple players in top ten to win a cricket match.

But since u halve already brought up this hilarious ranking argument, let me tell u one thing, ATG allrounder Shakib Al Hasan is better than any Pakistani player currently playing for Pakistan. I know, It's an unpleasant thing for u to swallow. But reality can't be ignored, right?

As for the rankings, we r currently the no 7 odi team in the world and expecting to break into top 5 once our home season begins.

In ODI/T20 I would take Hassan, Babar, Fakhar and possibly Shadab before Sakib - Babar and Fakhar without question

 

[Executioner]

Why are people labelling Afghanistan as favourites against us.

We are decent in ODI format and Afghanistan lack quality batsmen and our pace attack is better. Fielding too is more polished

It will be a test of temperament. Yes we lost T20 series 3-0 with them but we were totally disorganized without any real coaching staff

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Last time Pak. played these teams in UAE was over 3 years ago.

Trash players like Azhar, Jamshed, YK, and Fawad were playing.

In 2015 against England, our batting lineup was Azhar, Bilal, Hafeez, Iftikhar/Younis, Malik, Babar, Sarfraz, Anwar, Yasir, Wahab, Rahat. That's definitely a poor lineup not just in batting but in bowling as well.
I hope we are able to win series against them in UAE the next time though as our team looks much better now.

 

[happydavy]

An annual upset i.e a win against any country. If they win 2 then it's an early Eid for Bdesh.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Why are people labelling Afghanistan as favourites against us.

We are decent in ODI format and Afghanistan lack quality batsmen and our pace attack is better. Fielding too is more polished

It will be a test of temperament. Yes we lost T20 series 3-0 with them but we were totally disorganized without any real coaching staff

Mortaza is the soul of Bangladesh team. If he fails to motivate his team, they may well lose to Afghanistan. In tournaments, sometimes just one good partnership is able to win you a match.

 

[saeed5646]

We play as a unit and don't rely on one or two specific player to win us matches. U don't need multiple players in top ten to win a cricket match.

But since u halve already brought up this hilarious ranking argument, let me tell u one thing, ATG allrounder Shakib Al Hasan is better than any Pakistani player currently playing for Pakistan. I know, It's an unpleasant thing for u to swallow. But reality can't be ignored, right?

As for the rankings, we r currently the no 7 odi team in the world and expecting to break into top 5 once our home season begins.

The one Atg who ditch tough away series due to fatigue in foriegn league lol enough said

I rest my case and salute to your knowledge when you consider a medicore player an atg.hahhahaah bd is expected to win major trophy also but are continue to play like minnow but still there is hope carry on

 

[saeed5646]

It will be a Bangladesh - India final.

Bangladesh have been in the final of 2 of the last 3 Asia Cups and 3 out of 4 if you count the Nidahas trophy which was basically a mini Asia Cup.

Who many have asia cup bd have won?
The 2 asia cup you reach final was hosted by bd so don.t make sense it is not happening in mirpur this time
You seriously include nidahas trophy in which india B destroy your team hahahhahahahah

 

[RainMan_]

The one Atg who ditch tough away series due to fatigue in foriegn league lol enough said

I rest my case and salute to your knowledge when you consider a medicore player an atg.hahhahaah bd is expected to win major trophy also but are continue to play like minnow but still there is hope carry on

Pls mention one single player who's even comparable to shakib Al hasan as an allrounder leave alone better than him. If u can come up with a relevant name I'll destroy ur ludicrous claim in my next post and show u why Shakib is one of the greatest allrounders of all time.

Players like shakib r a rare breed and there shouldn't be any doubt about the fact that Shakib's place is among the greats like Kallis, Sobers, Kapil, botham and Imran.

 

[RainMan_]

In ODI/T20 I would take Hassan, Babar, Fakhar and possibly Shadab before Sakib - Babar and Fakhar without question

What u would or wouldn't do has little to no significance to me. What the rest of the cricket pundits around the world would do is what I m more concerned about.

No offense to any Pakistani players and obviously not to Shadab since I consider him as a bright young prospect but he isn't fit enough to even tie the shoe laces of Shakib. There is a reason why Shakib is widely considered as one of the greatest allrounders of all time.

He'll walk into any team as an allrounder in both ODIs and Lois.

 

[King-Misbah]

What u would or wouldn't do has little to no significance to me. What the rest of the cricket pundits around the world would do is what I m more concerned about.

No offense to any Pakistani players and obviously not to Shadab since I consider him as a bright young prospect but he isn't fit enough to even tie the shoe laces of Shakib. There is a reason why Shakib is widely considered as one of the greatest allrounders of all time.

He'll walk into any team as an allrounder in both ODIs and Lois.

Greatest all rounder of all time #FacePalm

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This time Bangladeshi fans should keep their expectations low. Also the players should stay away from these Naagin and Anaconda Dances. They should focus on improving their performance. They have the team to surprise other Asian teams under these conditions.

 

[Slog]

How's it even relevant to this topic? Bangladesh haven't been playing international cricket for that long to win multiple international tournaments. Even south africa haven't won a single international tournament as of yet, but West indies have. Does it mean, West indies is stronger than South Africa.

I am not even undermining the achievements of Pak. Just saying that they r a decent team and very close to Banglerdash on terms of strength. Current ranking and the result of the last two Asia Cup also seem to agree with my point.

SA have won a CT

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Uhmmm - the only close match up for Bangladesh will be against Afghanistan who will be favourites.

Not necessarily. The gap between Bangladesh and India is smaller than the gap between Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

Bangladesh should be expected to beat Afghanistan and Sri Lanka, and its 50-50 vs Pakistan. The only team that is significantly better than Bangladesh in this Asia Cup is India, although we don't yet know which team will be the 6th team, its most likely the 6th team will be weaker than Bangladesh too.

 

[JaDed]

BD is inconsistent tournament performers, we don't know what team will turn up in Asia cup which was very similar to Misbah's PCT for years but atleast with Sarfaraz PCT is expected to reach the final.

If the pitch has more for bowlers actually see Lanka doing well, they have somewhat improved.

 

[light]

Some of you posters are honestly a bit dilusional. AFG is not better than BD in ODI. T20 and ODI is a different ball game.

Bringing up a victory against pakistan from 2015 vs now should not matter in 2019. Pakistan team changed quite a lot, same goes for BD team. Both haven't played each other since a while, so hard to actually predict who will win.

An how are not people not counting SL as a contender to win the cup? They just Thrashed SA handsomely. If anything, all 4 big asian teams are in good form. It's anyone's cup if you ask me. And no, AFG does not have a chance to win unless some miracle happens...

 

[Shutdown Corner]

And why is everyone discounting the 6th team that qualifies for the Asia Cup???

One of Malaysia, Singapore, Nepal, Oman, UAE, and HK is guaranteed to be in the tournament next month.

The way India has batted in England, does anyone think its a guarantee that the Blue Billion will win that game?

And if India lose to the qualifier, then Pakistan who are a MUCH weaker side, could also very easily lose.

The in the Super 4s, You'd two of Bangladesh (lost to HK at home recently), Afghanistan (can lose to Botswana women's team on their day), and Sri Lanka (would struggle to win a fixed match these days).

Its entirely possible that Singapore could win the Asia Cup this year. Or Oman. Don't get cocky, and that goes for my fellow BD fans as well.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

I urge my fellow bd posters to keep their head level till you win the cup.

 

[IAJ]

Why are people labelling Afghanistan as favourites against us.

We are decent in ODI format and Afghanistan lack quality batsmen and our pace attack is better. Fielding too is more polished

It will be a test of temperament. Yes we lost T20 series 3-0 with them but we were totally disorganized without any real coaching staff

The last part of your post, some will call it excuses and others a valid point. Do you understand when Pakistanis bring up similar points about the loss to BD some years ago?

 

[Hasan123]

Our fans need to stop being so arrogant and disrespectful. Bangladesh have a good ODI team who in home conditions are very good. I don't think they will win the Asia cup but they wi be competitive.