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hasbeen said:
i have already taken the gap yr :(

my younger sis wanted to be a designer & my dad wanted her to take up medical...I remember both having arguments almost every day , eventually it came down my opinion ........being very close to my sis , I obviously supported her .......it took sometime for us to convince my dad , he did take few weeks to calm down even after she joined a design colg......now my sis is a lead designer for a big firm here & you have no Idea how proud my dad is of her !

you probably shud have tried convincing your parents , no parents will force their kids to do they are not interested in...if you had just kept quite then , its all your fault....don blame your parents now !
 
jusarrived said:
my younger sis wanted to be a designer & my dad wanted her to take up medical...I remember both having arguments almost every day , eventually it came down my opinion ........being very close to my sis , I obviously supported her .......it took sometime for us to convince my dad , he did take few weeks to calm down even after she joined a design colg......now my sis is a lead designer for a big firm here & you have no Idea how proud my dad is of her !

you probably shud have tried convincing your parents , no parents will force their kids to do they are not interested in...if you had just kept quite then , its all your fault....don blame your parents now !


ok boss! :10:
 
Investment Banker, London.(Nothing beats being a uni student though)

TaZ
 
Im a student, doing law. Also a part-time aviation security agent.
 
FAQ

in what sector are u based - my cousins live in F-10

Do you mind me adding u to msn?
 
kayanni said:
FAQ

in what sector are u based - my cousins live in F-10

Do you mind me adding u to msn?
I work here in F-7, I basically live on the boundary of Rawalpindi/Islamabad
Do you mind me adding u to msn?
My pleasure
 
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FAQ said:
I work here in F-7, I basically live on the boundary of Rawalpindi/Islamabad
Basically my home doesnt come under any police, Islamabad police says its not their territory and Pindi Traffic Police says its not theirs :)

So, you can pretty much come to my place if cops are chasing you for over speeding :D
 
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Thanks

do u live in Pindi or Isloo?

Must be hard to work for an American company - knowing they could be a target due to American policies?
 
FAQ said:
Basically my home doesnt come under any police, Islamabad police says its not their territory and Pindi District says its not theirs :)

So, you can pretty much come to my place if cops are chasing you for over speeding :D

:))) very useful info :D
 
kayanni said:
Thanks

do u live in Pindi or Isloo?

Must be hard to work for an American company - knowing they could be a target due to American policies?
nah, not that much, the authorities are governed locally, so its going pretty smoothly

basically I live near the Islamabad highway, across the road is Islamabad and the place where I am is Rawalpindi, so very interesting place ;)
 
acha

i would love to work in Pakistan - magar cant find any big mutlinational construction consultancies in ISB/LHR!!!!!!

The ones i know are mainly civil engineering ones
 
yaar to be very frank, dont have much knowledge about such companies but mostly the work being done here is by EMAAR, NLC
 
yeh know about Emaar they are huge in Asia -

who are NLC?

One day i will go back - even if its to stop the wife nagging me!!!!!!!! lolz

what about u - have u ever worked abroad
 
I have worked in MiddleEast (Kuwait mainly) for 6 months or so, will go abroad once I get some more experience
 
acha

but the IT and Telcomms industry is booming in Pak at the moment - even my younger bro was tempted to apply to work for Telenor in Lahore!!!!!!!!
 
yaar, the scene is not that good, having first hand knowledge of what the Telcos do and the way IT companies operate, its not good for future. there is no quality audit, no IT audit concept here, they can easily land into big trouble
 
SameerM said:
Any Oracle APPS roles available in pindi/islamabad?
yaar getting in IT in ISB/RWP is tough, people are looking for all-rounders, without reference (I don't mean safarish here) you don't get good job. Jobs are there but generally not announced, they are hired through acquaintances.
 
acha

hmmmmmmmm - maybe when i chat with you on msn u will reveal all!!!!!!!!!!!
 
NDA means Non-Disclosure Agreement :P,

but seriously there is nothing much but inadequacies which i wont want to go in the details
 
i guess the reason we have no doctors on PP is cuz doctors hardly get any time for cricket or internet surfing..oh dear! i might have to rethink my linke of study..haha
 
kayanni said:
Construction Project Manager - something totally Non-Asian

it certainly is

Just finishing my placement year, go back to Uni in Sept and insh'allah will finish my degree this time next year and then slowly but surely start my climb towards project manager and beyond
 
In a career aptitude test I took recently, 3 of the options was a chrtd engineer (mechanical, chemical & biologic). Is anybody on PP one. If so what do you do in that profession. I just wanted a 1st hand account...
 
I work in credit control for a financial institute. Have done the job for 18 months and find am progressing well.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
it certainly is

Just finishing my placement year, go back to Uni in Sept and insh'allah will finish my degree this time next year and then slowly but surely start my climb towards project manager and beyond

who did u do ur placement with and wat uni u at

i am currently working on the cheesegrater building (the leadenhall building) with Bovis all 54 floors of it........ :)
 
Work in a bank in Bahrain - IT/Business analyst for Treasury/Risk
 
kayanni said:
Mig - we will help u own in return for a share!!!!!
yes, I get load of emails from Burkina Faso, Nigeria, and Congo etc asking for my help to transfer millions of $$$, but I was never interested but I may think over it if I get the same offer from someone in Bahrain :D
 
hahahahahahah

i get the same as well - come on Mig we trust you to do th biz for us!!!!!!

FAQ did u get the msg saying i want to add u to msn?
 
kayanni said:
hahahahahahah

i get the same as well - come on Mig we trust you to do th biz for us!!!!!!

FAQ did u get the msg saying i want to add u to msn?
Well yes, I have already blocked you :D
 
acha ji, its like that is - lolz

if u block me you wont get anything from MIG when he share his treasure :D
 
kayanni said:
who did u do ur placement with and wat uni u at

i am currently working on the cheesegrater building (the leadenhall building) with Bovis all 54 floors of it........ :)

McCarthy and Stone (they build retirement flats) - its fairy straightforward constructiong BUT it was good for the experience BUT flats/homes is not something im keen on. Im at Northumbria Uni

Leadenhall building - that is quality bro :14: :14:

btw i take it you did a construction management degree? if so what topic did you do your dissertation on?
 
Salman said:
IT / Projects manager at leading nordic investment bank's London office.

Small car salvage business on the side.

What kind of Salvage business it is? Do you have a Salvage yard? or else. I also do Auto business on side in TX, US.
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
McCarthy and Stone (they build retirement flats) - its fairy straightforward constructiong BUT it was good for the experience BUT flats/homes is not something im keen on. Im at Northumbria Uni

Leadenhall building - that is quality bro :14: :14:

btw i take it you did a construction management degree? if so what topic did you do your dissertation on?

I graduated in 99 from UCL in Construction Project Management - dissertation was on Partnering as it was a new thing baCK then........

Are you going to move to Manchester or London when u graduate - they are the main 2 hotspots for commercial buildings at the moment....

send me a private msg with your email details willl ya
 
hasbeen said:
i have already taken the gap yr :(
bruv youd be fine.. the thing is finish your degree off as you can always change professions once youve completed it.. you seem like a decent chap whose brain was on a leave when you started following man u.. i know how you feel.. my dad wanted me and my siblings to do medicine.. hes pretty ****** off that we didnt take his advise seriously but thats what pisses me off abt asian parents.. no f'ing clue of what the child wants..
 
madaboutlfc said:
bruv youd be fine.. the thing is finish your degree off as you can always change professions once youve completed it.. you seem like a decent chap whose brain was on a leave when you started following man u.. i know how you feel.. my dad wanted me and my siblings to do medicine.. hes pretty ****** off that we didnt take his advise seriously but thats what pisses me off abt asian parents.. no f'ing clue of what the child wants..


so what do you do now then?
 
kayanni said:
I graduated in 99 from UCL in Construction Project Management - dissertation was on Partnering as it was a new thing baCK then........

Are you going to move to Manchester or London when u graduate - they are the main 2 hotspots for commercial buildings at the moment....

send me a private msg with your email details willl ya

im planning on staying in Newcastle if possible - there are a fair few commercial projects happening here - obviously not to the scale of London/Manchester BUT insha'allah enough to keep me here for the foreseeable future atleast

(I gave Oxy my e-mail address, he will send it to you)
 
Medic said:
In a career aptitude test I took recently, 3 of the options was a chrtd engineer (mechanical, chemical & biologic). Is anybody on PP one. If so what do you do in that profession. I just wanted a 1st hand account...


An example of mechanical engineering in terms of practical could be mechatronics (mechanical aspect to robotics).
 
sam1eh said:
sounds interesting, what's one of them?


Concerned with the cognitive aspect to robot building (mind, intelligence, consciousness and all that)
 
filosofee said:
Concerned with the cognitive aspect to robot building (mind, intelligence, consciousness and all that)

so ur going to make the first robots that take over the world? ;-)
 
filosofee said:
No, a cognitive roboticist.
Man !! some tough living out there, would you like to explain what exactly do you do? I know what exactly there is in Mechatronics engineering but this doesnt seem like engineering
 
FAQ said:
Man !! some tough living out there, would you like to explain what exactly do you do? I know what exactly there is in Mechatronics engineering but this doesnt seem like engineering

Depends on what your definition of engineering is!

Mechatronic Engineers the world over (and I recently attended a DTi delegation on Russian Mechatronics) may be interested to know why you feel "this doesnt seem like engineering" - or maybe not!

No, don't feel the need to explain "what exactly" I do - you are, however, welcome to attend my conference presentation next month (alas it is in Enschede, can you make it, there may be a fee?) - and don't worry it is not "tough living" :))
 
filosofee said:
Depends on what your definition of engineering is!

Mechatronic Engineers the world over (and I recently attended a DTi delegation on Russian Mechatronics) may be interested to know why you feel "this doesnt seem like engineering" - or maybe not!
Well the way the cognitive sciences are proceeding, I dont consider them to be engineering (you may not agree to it), the problem is that instead of working on the philosophies of real intelligence, the cognitive sciences tend to formulate everything in some absurd equations and stuff like that. For example, taking the example of chess, what are the chess machines doing, they are simply beating the human mind by the help of computing (solving some high order equations) skills not on the basis of intelligence.

and in my view mechatronics engineering is just another cousin of mechanical engineering which I don't think has much to do with artificial intelligence.
No, don't feel the need to explain "what exactly" I do - you are, however, welcome to attend my conference presentation next month (alas it is in Enschede, can you make it, there may be a fee?) - and don't worry it is not "tough living" :))
hmm, well I wouldn't be able to make it but if you could send me reading material that would be great.
 
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FAQ said:
Well the way the cognitive sciences are proceeding, I dont consider them to be engineering

Who has claimed that cognitive science is a form of engineering? Oh, yes, you (making an inference)! What do you mean by the plural "... sciences"?

the problem is that instead of working on the philosophies of real intelligence, the cognitive sciences tend to formulate everything in some absurd equations and stuff like that.

Where is the evidence to support your claim? Is this from your experience - "stuff like that"?

For example, taking the example of chess, what are the chess machines doing, they are simply beating the human mind by the help of computing (solving some high order equations) skills not on the basis of intelligence.

What original thought! You're way behind the times. I guess this is because you're located in Islamabad? Perhaps you're unacquanted with current research and achievements. For instance, the Lexus vehicle with road vision recognition, so keeping the vehicle in lane - as long as the driver wants to remain in a specific lane. And, with incorporated sensors, facilitates hands-free parking - usesful for females, those that can afford £71,000 for this particular model!

But returning to chess, many would agree that good chess-players are accepted as exhibiting a feature of intelligence: a certain type of problem-solving. Hence, in the 1950's IBM sought to build a machine to play and beat Grandmasters, and succeeded in doing - see '90's Deep Blue II vs Kasparov literature. You may not concede it as an exposition of intelligence but I would argue that it demonstrated an alternative to intelligence - another means in executing a resolution.

Look for AI strides in artificial olfaction (machines able to distinguish between thousands of smells) text-based dialogical query systems utilised in e-commerce (concommitantly increasing sales/profits and reducing call-centre costs), to name two.



and in my view mechatronics engineering is just another cousin of mechanical engineering which I don't think has much to do with artificial intelligence.

Again you are confused; who has claimed mechatronics as AI? You again! Mechatronics is the mechanical engineering aspect to robot building. You should know that since in your earlier post you claim to know "exactly what is mechatronics". Frankly, your opinion on this does not count for much unless you have published/have international peer-reviewed papers, i.e. valid empirically-tested foundation.

hmm, well I wouldn't be able to make it but if you could send me reading material that would be great.

Failure to recognise irony! If you're interested, Google, say, for first year undergrad level mechanical engineering and robotics.

Lastly, your signature, presumably taken from Drew McDermott's book, overlooks the many stupid machines, such as prototypes that the general public never get to see :))
 
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what about a career in cricket betting ?? Imagine just staying at home and watching cricket.. On a serious note, how about it?
 
filosofee said:
My response in bold below:



Failure to recognise irony! If you're interested, Google, say, for first year undergrad level mechanical engineering and robotics.

Lastly, your signature, presumably taken from Drew McDermott's book, overlooks the many stupid machines, such as prototypes that the general public never get to see :))
Only one response to all your long justification, the examples you gave work on training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond just training data, true intelligence is based on intuition and I am afraid I haven't heard of a system that works on intuition.
 
FAQ said:
Only one response to all your long justification, the examples you gave work on training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond just training data, true intelligence is based on intuition and I am afraid I haven't heard of a system that works on intuition.

It is indeed quite clear, from your ill-informed posts, that you have never heard of a system with intuition!

Training data, artificial intelligence is something beyond training data , true intelligence - phrases you use but fail to show any comprehension for (as in the case of mechatronics which you claim "know exactly what it is").

Re "training data" this is exactly a feature of child development, i.e. young children are trained to refer to a chair as a chair and not, say, as a table. A child does not come hard-wired with this kind of knowledge, it is acquired, learnt.

I notice that you deleted then re-introduced your signature (adaptation of Drew McDermott's book title Artificial Intelligence meets Natural Stupidity). Plagiarist!

I'm afraid I don't have the time (nor inclination to be honest) to respond to further posts from you on this. Good luck with whatever it is you do.
 
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note so self, every girl on pp is fair game but steer clear of filsofee. So this essentially means Samia and miggy have no amnesty :)
 
FAQ said:
Few "buzzurgs" require a crash course on online ethics

Have to agree - such aggression is uncalled for...
 
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