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What happened to the pilot of 2nd Indian fighter plane shot down?

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Sorry I have been too busy recently in job so dont have all the facts.

I know Pakistan shot down an Indian fighter plane and the pilot was captured alive who Pakistan have handover back to India as a peace gesture. Very noble. :bow:

But Pakistan also shot down a 2nd Indian fighter plane. What happened to pilot of that plane? Pakistan definitely did not capture him alive otherwise it would have been in news. So did he survive the crash? Did he land in Indian side? Hope he is ok.
 
These are all good questions. Only DG ISPR or other military official can and must clarify this issue. Meanwhile people of both sides of the border have their own wild theories.
 
Pakistan initially claimed that he was in a hospital. Not sure what happened after, or if there even was a second jet.
 
There is a crash site on the Indian site which india claims fell due to 'technical fault'
 
So there is a wreckage of one Indian fighter jet in Pakistani side and there is a wreckage of another Indian fighter jet in Indian side. That means the 2nd pilot has to be in India.

Either he did not survive the crash or he survived the crash but was killed by the people of Kashmir. Otherwise he would have come in open by now.
 
DG ISPR said that the pilot is in CMH hospital. Then he retracted his statement. Who was this pilot? What happened to him?
 
srh said:
So there is a wreckage of one Indian fighter jet in Pakistani side and there is a wreckage of another Indian fighter jet in Indian side. That means the 2nd pilot has to be in India.
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not necessarily, theoretically could have ejected in pak side and the wreckage could have fallen in india.

given the treatment achinandan got at the hands of the locals, one can only assume what happened to the second pilot if the army didnt reach him early enough, would also explain why he would need medical attention.

no one knows the truth tho.
 
Two theories coming out of the Pakistan side:

1) The pilot succumbed to his injuries at the hospital. Thus the narrative became, "we only have one pilot in our custody". Since India does not acknowledge that a second plane went down Pakistan choose to just let the matter go. His body won't be accepted by India as well since he doesn't exist according to them, and parading his body around might just add fuel to fire.

2) Since India doesn't acknowledge the existence of the second pilot, Pakistan decided to just keep him. In the future he may be used as a bargaining chip to get back the kidnapped Col Habib.
 
ElRaja said:
not necessarily, theoretically could have ejected in pak side and the wreckage could have fallen in india.

given the treatment achinandan got at the hands of the locals, one can only assume what happened to the second pilot if the army didnt reach him early enough, would also explain why he would need medical attention.

no one knows the truth tho.
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possible. was the wreckage of 2nd Indian fighter jet in India very near to border?

On social media I saw a video where there is a wreckage of a plane and there is a badly burned body on ground with 1 leg broken at knee. The people are saying pilot and might be Kashmiris wearing those long robes. That guy might be the 2nd pilot.
 
well there are two theories -


some military sources in Pakistan are claiming the Su-30MKI which had 2 pilots also ejected in Pakistan (witness reports say 3 parachutes were seen) , however they were whisked away by the army very quickly and as india didnt want to acknoladge there sheer embarrasment only confirmed an mig was hit, pakistan hid those 2 pilots away and used one for a pr or peace gesture and kept the other 2 for leverage later on, they made abhi belive they fell in india, now he is asking in india and they want to send him to a mental asylum, and hence the reason for the sacking of the IAF. Modi must have been livid and now wants to upgrade the IAF completly. The dots connect clearly.

second theorie is as everyone has reported that they fell into IOK, if they died then like always Indian army would have staged a helicopter crash or made people belive they died in a militant clash, this is what india does always when we kill there soliders.

however, all we know for sure is that the IAF was schooled big time that's why their chief has been sacked and even Modi has today acknolged the superior difference in both air forces and how IAF needs an upgrade.
 
srh said:
possible. was the wreckage of 2nd Indian fighter jet in India very near to border?

On social media I saw a video where there is a wreckage of a plane and there is a badly burned body on ground with 1 leg broken at knee. The people are saying pilot and might be Kashmiris wearing those long robes. That guy might be the 2nd pilot.
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tough to say since afaik india hasnt officially recognised the downing of the second jet. cant answer your questions, i dont think anyone conclusively can.
 
PetroDollars said:
well there are two theories -


some military sources in Pakistan are claiming the Su-30MKI which had 2 pilots also ejected in Pakistan (witness reports say 3 parachutes were seen) , however they were whisked away by the army very quickly and as india didnt want to acknoladge there sheer embarrasment only confirmed an mig was hit, pakistan hid those 2 pilots away and used one for a pr or peace gesture and kept the other 2 for leverage later on, they made abhi belive they fell in india, now he is asking in india and they want to send him to a mental asylum, and hence the reason for the sacking of the IAF. Modi must have been livid and now wants to upgrade the IAF completly. The dots connect clearly.

second theorie is as everyone has reported that they fell into IOK, if they died then like always Indian army would have staged a helicopter crash or made people belive they died in a militant clash, this is what india does always when we kill there soliders.

however, all we know for sure is that the IAF was schooled big time that's why their chief has been sacked and even Modi has today acknolged the superior difference in both air forces and how IAF needs an upgrade.
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"they made abhi belive they fell in india, now he is asking in india and they want to send him to a mental asylum"

What do you mean by this? He acknowledged in the videos that he was looked after well in Pakistan so he knew that he was in Pakistan. Initially, when he landed; he was unsure where he was but ofcourse knew after the beating by locals and being rescued by the Pakistani army.

I think there may be more pilots involved but only god knows best. There were definately rumours of another pilot before it all went sussh.
 
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Al Jazeera ran a news story in which Kashmiris were IOK were gathered round the wreckage of a jet and were chanting pro-Pakistan slogans. The Indian Army personal on site told the news reporter that two dead bodies have been moved from the site.



This corroborates with Pakistan's story of one MIG and one SU30 being shot down (SU30 has two pilots.)



Had it been a helicopter wreckage there would have been six seven dead bodies.
 
King-Misbah said:
"they made abhi belive they fell in india, now he is asking in india and they want to send him to a mental asylum"

What do you mean by this? He acknowledged in the videos that he was looked after well in Pakistan so he knew that he was in Pakistan. Initially, when he landed; he was unsure where he was but ofcourse knew after the beating by locals and being rescued by the Pakistani army.

I think there may be more pilots involved but only god knows best. There were definately rumours of another pilot before it all went sussh.
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by they i meant pak fauj, they told abhi his other pilots from the second jet crashed in IOK so they dont have them,
 
He was close to dead on the scene and died in a Pakistani military hospital.

Back channel was opened between the two countries and his body was returned.

In return for his body and the wing commander, India was forced to climb down
 
Another interesting video:


The first plane is without a doubt a SU30, it has the distinctive swept back wings of the Sukhoi.... but I couldn't quite make out what the second plane was.


 
It means we only had one of their soldier. Unless I see evidence of another one won't believe what we are told.
 
Syed1 said:
Another interesting video:


The first plane is without a doubt a SU30, it has the distinctive swept back wings of the Sukhoi.... but I couldn't quite make out what the second plane was.


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These are both F-15s (twin tails). SU30Mkis have front canards as well so that rules them out.
And as AVM Shahid Latif (who was the first pilot to land the F-16 into Pakistan '83) said both kills were BVR. So no chase took place.
 
cric_man said:
These are both F-15s (twin tails). SU30Mkis have front canards as well so that rules them out.
And as AVM Shahid Latif (who was the first pilot to land the F-16 into Pakistan '83) said both kills were BVR. So no chase took place.
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Both of those are definitely not the same planes and neither India or Pak have F-15s.


Also to achieve supersonic flight the canards of the SU are swept backwards

The first one is a dual engine while the second one only has one.
 
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Syed1 said:
Another interesting video:


The first plane is without a doubt a SU30, it has the distinctive swept back wings of the Sukhoi.... but I couldn't quite make out what the second plane was.


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I think both are F-15s
Twin tail, cranked arrow wings. Su30Mki has front canards and a center boom b/w engines in the rear.
 
I saw a video of a lady at a press conference purported to be the wife of the 2nd pilot that went down. His name was ninand?

Then there was another video of another pilot's funeral in Chandigarh. His wife is also serving S/L. He may have been in the MI-17 shot down by the Indian forces.

AOC Western Air Command unceremoniously shown the door, tells you how big a goof up this was for the IAF
 
Syed1 said:
Both of those are definitely not the same planes and neither India or Pak have F-15s.


Also to achieve supersonic flight the canards of the SU are swept backwards

The first one is a dual engine while the second one only has one.
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Canards do not sweep back, they flip up/down to provide additional directed lift. Also look for a boom in between engines for SU30. The first plane was too fast for me to ascertain. The chase place was def twin tail & twin engine.
 
FreakCricket said:

Check this out, indeed it was Su vs JF17
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This is the video I was talking about. It shows the dead body of pilot of 2nd Indian fighter jet. So it proves that the 2nd Indian fighter jet after shot down actually fall in Indian side and the pilot is dead. [MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION]
 
srh said:
This is the video I was talking about. It shows the dead body of pilot of 2nd Indian fighter jet. So it proves that the 2nd Indian fighter jet after shot down actually fall in Indian side and the pilot is dead. [MENTION=56933]ElRaja[/MENTION]
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lol this is beyond outrageous. You do know that video has been long debunked - the propaganda war is lol-worthy
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He was close to dead on the scene and died in a Pakistani military hospital.

Back channel was opened between the two countries and his body was returned.

In return for his body and the wing commander, India was forced to climb down
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is this confirmed, because this was my suspicion but i didnt find any source to confirm it.
 
Syed1 said:
Al Jazeera ran a news story in which Kashmiris were IOK were gathered round the wreckage of a jet and were chanting pro-Pakistan slogans. The Indian Army personal on site told the news reporter that two dead bodies have been moved from the site.



This corroborates with Pakistan's story of one MIG and one SU30 being shot down (SU30 has two pilots.)



Had it been a helicopter wreckage there would have been six seven dead bodies.
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Can you post a link Syed?

I would like to know more.
 
srh said:
no I did not know. This is a fake video?
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There is massive propoganda going on from both sides and everyone is getting sucked into it.

2 claims made in the other thread turned out to be false. Lockheed Martin has officially tweeted their reply.

IAF has openly come out and said they shot down F16. So they are going to be ridiculed if this is false.

Not saying they can never be wrong but organizations don't put out such news without careful deliberation. The previous day IAF didn't name the jet but only unofficial sources were talking about F16.

I don't know the truth but I would wait for things to settle.

The only fact right now is that Pakistan have OFFICIALLY on record saying Pakistan arrested 2 Indian pilots. Then changed to 1.

Now, as some posters say, it is possible they could have struck a deal with India and sent a dead body secretly in exchange for truce. No proof. Just speculation.

By the same token, logic dictates that India would have used that excuse to launch a better attack.

If an organization like IAF collects dead bodies secretly, why would they announce the F16 name the next day in this day and age? Wouldn't they try to not make specific claims?

So many questions arise.

Plus there are other interesting developments happening in this space. We will get to know more. Whether its posturing or something serious, we will again get to know.
 
Syed1 said:
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Aljazeera video shows the location as Budgam (when the Indian police guy talks about dead bodies in that place).

Pakistan DG ISPR has officially gone on record saying Pakistan had nothing to do with the Budgam crash.

Those images were mentioned even in Indian sites.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/p...-in-jks-budgam-amid-loc-tensions-2049985.html

Sidhart Vashisht is one of the pilots who is dead.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/w...n-uniform-as-people-bid-farewell-2053071.html
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Aljazeera video shows the location as Budgam (when the Indian police guy talks about dead bodies in that place).

Pakistan DG ISPR has officially gone on record saying Pakistan had nothing to do with the Budgam crash.

Those images were mentioned even in Indian sites.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/p...-in-jks-budgam-amid-loc-tensions-2049985.html

Sidhart Vashisht is one of the pilots who is dead.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/w...n-uniform-as-people-bid-farewell-2053071.html
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Link also mentions about the last rites of second pilot.

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Sergeant Vikrant Sehrawat, who was also in the same chopper, was laid to rest in his Haryana home and the last rites were performed in Bhadani village in Jhajjar district.

Haryana Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar, who attended the ceremony, said the state government would provide ex-gratia of Rs 50 lakh to the deceased's family and government job to one of his family members.

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Indian media saying that the second pilot was Pakistani and he got lynched by his own countrymen because they thought he was Indian.

:)))
 
Madplayer said:
Indian media saying that the second pilot was Pakistani and he got lynched by his own countrymen because they thought he was Indian.

:)))
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He can be Bro he can be. Look at day 1 when DG ISPR said that there are two pilots 1 is injured & the second is in arrest. Now if the injured pilot was an Indian & may be died then where is his jet? & if he was not an Indian then he must be Pakistani. Bcz there would have been someone in AF uniform in cmh that's why DGISPR was saying 1 is injured.

I have seen a multiple videos where some witnessed stated that there were two pilots & some saying that there were 3 pilots:facepalm:
Kashmir is such a mess in every perspective.
 
Junaid_ahmed said:
He can be Bro he can be. Look at day 1 when DG ISPR said that there are two pilots 1 is injured & the second is in arrest. Now if the injured pilot was an Indian & may be died then where is his jet? & if he was not an Indian then he must be Pakistani. Bcz there would have been someone in AF uniform in cmh that's why DGISPR was saying 1 is injured.

I have seen a multiple videos where some witnessed stated that there were two pilots & some saying that there were 3 pilots:facepalm:
Kashmir is such a mess in every perspective.
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So you are accepting that Pakistan's fighter jet was downed by India and the Pakistani pilot had to eject only to be caught by locals and beaten to death?

Also, doesnt Pakistan air force uniform have a Pakistani flag on the arm? How can people mistake him for an Indian? And locals didnt talk to the pilot before killing him? How did locals even know that Indian airforce was coming and that there was a possibility of Indian pilot being on their land? First look at any soldier will clearly make the locals think that he must be a Pakistani soldier. The Indian story doesnt make sense.

What makes more sense is that either the second Indian pilot is still in Pakistan's custody or he died and this news was brushed under the carpet to de-escalate the situation. Remember India first said they didnt even lose 1 pilot. Only after Abhinandan's video was released did they accept that 1 was missing. Pakistan didnt release the video of another fighter and hence India didnt claim that they had lost another one.
 
Madplayer said:
So you are accepting that Pakistan's fighter jet was downed by India and the Pakistani pilot had to eject only to be caught by locals and beaten to death?

Also, doesnt Pakistan air force uniform have a Pakistani flag on the arm? How can people mistake him for an Indian? And locals didnt talk to the pilot before killing him? How did locals even know that Indian airforce was coming and that there was a possibility of Indian pilot being on their land? First look at any soldier will clearly make the locals think that he must be a Pakistani soldier. The Indian story doesnt make sense.

What makes more sense is that either the second Indian pilot is still in Pakistan's custody or he died and this news was brushed under the carpet to de-escalate the situation. Remember India first said they didnt even lose 1 pilot. Only after Abhinandan's video was released did they accept that 1 was missing. Pakistan didnt release the video of another fighter and hence India didnt claim that they had lost another one.
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Indian airforce always said that one pilot is missing. They never said anything else. Indian armed forces statements has always been consistent. Dnt compare them with media.
 
Akki malhotra said:
Indian airforce always said that one pilot is missing. They never said anything else. Indian armed forces statements has always been consistent. Dnt compare them with media.
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The media claimed army sources though. However, you are right that only official statements matter.
 
Akki malhotra said:
Indian airforce always said that one pilot is missing. They never said anything else. Indian armed forces statements has always been consistent. Dnt compare them with media.
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No such statement was made by Indian authorities until Pak army came with pictures /videos of Abhi, first stance of India was a big no for everything.
 
Junaid_ahmed said:
No such statement was made by Indian authorities until Pak army came with pictures /videos of Abhi, first stance of India was a big no for everything.
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Well they didn't either say until then that everyone is safe and alright. They gave statement once and that was one pilot is missing
 
Madplayer said:
So you are accepting that Pakistan's fighter jet was downed by India and the Pakistani pilot had to eject only to be caught by locals and beaten to death?

Also, doesnt Pakistan air force uniform have a Pakistani flag on the arm? How can people mistake him for an Indian? And locals didnt talk to the pilot before killing him? How did locals even know that Indian airforce was coming and that there was a possibility of Indian pilot being on their land? First look at any soldier will clearly make the locals think that he must be a Pakistani soldier. The Indian story doesnt make sense.

What makes more sense is that either the second Indian pilot is still in Pakistan's custody or he died and this news was brushed under the carpet to de-escalate the situation. Remember India first said they didnt even lose 1 pilot. Only after Abhinandan's video was released did they accept that 1 was missing. Pakistan didnt release the video of another fighter and hence India didnt claim that they had lost another one.
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If the second pilot was died or still in custody then where is his jet? Plz tell me one thing as I dnt know that the second jet which PAF shot in occupied Kashmir was how much far away from LOC, was there a chance that a pilot from that jet could have fly to Pakistan from his parachute?
 
Sachin136 said:
Pakistan initially claimed that he was in a hospital. Not sure what happened after, or if there even was a second jet.
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2 POWs news was probably same 1 POW identified from 2 different and remote sources when he was on his way to CMH,one source Army Unit and Second source CMH.
 
Junaid_ahmed said:
If the second pilot was died or still in custody then where is his jet? Plz tell me one thing as I dnt know that the second jet which PAF shot in occupied Kashmir was how much far away from LOC, was there a chance that a pilot from that jet could have fly to Pakistan from his parachute?
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The second jet fell in Indian controlled territory as claimed by DG ISPR and naturally Indians didnt release any pictures of it. The pilot however drifted into Pakistani territory.
The Budgam crash was the 3rd one which claimed lives of 6-7 Indian airforce personnel. The reason for that crash is not clear. Indians say it was technical fault.
 
Madplayer said:
The second jet fell in Indian controlled territory as claimed by DG ISPR and naturally Indians didnt release any pictures of it. The pilot however drifted into Pakistani territory.
The Budgam crash was the 3rd one which claimed lives of 6-7 Indian airforce personnel. The reason for that crash is not clear. Indians say it was technical fault.
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OK thnx Bro. This sound more reliable.
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]

Another interesting video which shows 2 parachutes, and the locals who have made the video claiming that parachutes looks like Indian. (I dont have a solid grasp of Punjabi language, so anyone can translate it better, would be appreciated.)

 
Lot of old videos been reuploaded as new ones for the current situation..

Propaganda and media war is on full flow.

At the end of the day no one in this thread will ever know the full truth. So it's best that people believe what they want to believe and move on.

No point wasting time on things for which you will never find the answers.
 
ElRaja said:
is this confirmed, because this was my suspicion but i didnt find any source to confirm it.
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No official confirmation but ive been told through sources in Pak military that have been accurate so far.

I feel it will never be told officially.
 
Hermoine Green said:
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]

Another interesting video which shows 2 parachutes, and the locals who have made the video claiming that parachutes looks like Indian. (I dont have a solid grasp of Punjabi language, so anyone can translate it better, would be appreciated.)

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They are speaking Pahari (a dialect of Punjabi used in AJK) and yes they are saying the parachutes are from indian side.
 
Madplayer said:
Indian media saying that the second pilot was Pakistani and he got lynched by his own countrymen because they thought he was Indian.

:)))
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Bro, if a Pakistani jet was shot down , its communication would have been stopped with the authorities in Pakistan monitoring the situation. No way they would want to take risk of humiliating themselves before confirming the situation. Its either the second pilot has died or he is in captivity because of Indians being shy to admit and Pakistan coyingly changing their original statement to investigate the second pilot any way they want
 
desirous of desire said:
Bro, if a Pakistani jet was shot down , its communication would have been stopped with the authorities in Pakistan monitoring the situation. No way they would want to take risk of humiliating themselves before confirming the situation. Its either the second pilot has died or he is in captivity because of Indians being shy to admit and Pakistan coyingly changing their original statement to investigate the second pilot any way they want
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I said the same thing in my next posts brother.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Claiming the Su-30 MKI Kill:<br><br>1: Russia has been reluctant to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.<br><br>2: Russia won't want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 kill because it'll severely hamper future sales of its top aviation merchandise.<br><br>3: Pak needs Russia for JF-17 engines.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193251451367425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4: Pakistan wants F-16V upgrade for its fleet and potentially more new F-16s.<br><br>5: US. would want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 MKI kill to hurt Russian top product to further escalate CAATSA pressure.<br><br>6: PAF is in a catch 22. On one hand they wanna claim the kill but its not easy.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193255280721920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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PetroDollars said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Claiming the Su-30 MKI Kill:<br><br>1: Russia has been reluctant to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.<br><br>2: Russia won't want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 kill because it'll severely hamper future sales of its top aviation merchandise.<br><br>3: Pak needs Russia for JF-17 engines.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193251451367425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4: Pakistan wants F-16V upgrade for its fleet and potentially more new F-16s.<br><br>5: US. would want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 MKI kill to hurt Russian top product to further escalate CAATSA pressure.<br><br>6: PAF is in a catch 22. On one hand they wanna claim the kill but its not easy.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193255280721920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Both airforces and powers that be, know what they achieved or lost, its the aam admi who will bicker for precious little internet bragging rights, or the media anchorpersons for more TRP.
 
There was a video of a second pilot, and he parachuted in india and was severely injured.

I think it was India due to the language that was being spoken.
 
Hermoine Green said:
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION] [MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]

Another interesting video which shows 2 parachutes, and the locals who have made the video claiming that parachutes looks like Indian. (I dont have a solid grasp of Punjabi language, so anyone can translate it better, would be appreciated.)

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You know what bhai?

Both Indians and Pakistanis are using this same video as proof. :rp

A couple of days back, I clearly remember some Indian guy posting this video and one of the Pak posters say this is totally not clear.
 
Not sure about PAK, but in India, the country with 400+ news channels, social media, elitism and gift of spreading rumours(truth or false) will not let a death of an Air Force pilot or a crash of a Fighter Jet go unnoticed. Simply not possible.
 
Name of second PAF pilot who shot down the SU30 released to media persons.


Wing Commander Nauman Ali

Slowly we are releasing info. I can understand why we cannot tout and celebrate the SU30 shooting because Pak is in talks with Russia to purchase the SU35 to counter the Rafale.
 
So Pakistani pilot Nauman Ali shot down the 2nd Indian jet? If yes then some questions:
  1. What was the type of 2nd Indian jet? Was that also MIG 21 or SU30?
  2. Where is the wreckage of 2nd Indian jet?
  3. What happened to the pilot(s) of 2nd Indian jet?
 
srh said:
So Pakistani pilot Nauman Ali shot down the 2nd Indian jet? If yes then some questions:
  1. What was the type of 2nd Indian jet? Was that also MIG 21 or SU30?
  2. Where is the wreckage of 2nd Indian jet?
  3. What happened to the pilot(s) of 2nd Indian jet?
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it was a su30, its confirmed by gov now.

i actully think the pilots or atleast one of them as its a two seater is alive in pakistani custody.
 
Braveheart said:
I believe this is the 2nd Indian Pilot shot down in IOK.
He survived.
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A video of this man was circulating on social media at the time but I think he is someone who escaped an internal plane crash a few weeks before the skirmishes between the two countries. This is an unrelated incident.
 
Am reading rumors that the second pilot was an Israeli whom the Pakistani forces were keeping for interrogation and questioning
 
Savak said:
Am reading rumors that the second pilot was an Israeli whom the Pakistani forces were keeping for interrogation and questioning
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Bakwaas that isnt logical. Why would they put themselves in the doc like that? no way. India has loads of skilled SU pilots why would they need an Israeli? I would ignore this until we have something better to go on. More than likely the pilot died..
 
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