What is it about Australian conditions that historically suits the otherwise average performances of the Indian cricket team?

[ethan hunt]

India since the 2000s apart from a couple of exceptions have done well im Australia. Compare that to their performances in other places like NZ and Eng where they invariably get a pasting its amazing.

So what is it about Australian conditions that seems to suit both batsmen and bowlers from an otherwise mediocre travelling team?

 

[sweep_shot]

It seems like modern day Aussies don't play with high intensity against India (due to IPL perhaps).

 

[Varun]

It's way easier to a bat in Australia than in India where even Steven O'Keefe or Jason Krezja can roll us.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

India since the 2000s apart from a couple of exceptions have done well im Australia. Compare that to their performances in other places like NZ and Eng where they invariably get a pasting its amazing.
So what is it about Australian conditions that seems to suit both batsmen and bowlers from an otherwise mediocre travelling team?

Ya i actually have observed this thing with indian team they get thrashed in nz and eng and actually win series in australia thats tell me one thing in cricket point of view they play pace and bounce really well which they get in australia but are bunny against swing bowling which we get in eng and nz and funny thing is pak historically has played better in nz and eng compared to india.

 

[Savak]

It seems like Aussies don't have a high intensity when they play India. Due to IPL perhaps.

Old Aussies probably would've done sledging and whatnot.

Michael Clarke has confirmed the same in the past along with Ramiz Raja

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It is very clear that the Australian team surrenders its intensity against India. It definitely is both a mental block and a combination of IPL, the same bowlers, batters have failed against India at home 3 times in a row in the last 6 years leads to a permanent mental scarring.

Would the Australians have persisted with the same group of players who lost a single Ashes series let alone 3-6 consecutive test series losses against the same team both away and at home? Definitely not.

The Australian cricket system does not mind or deem it unacceptable to lose to India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India is the hardest place to bat on these days in Test cricket

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

It's way easier to a bat in Australia than in India where even Steven O'Keefe or Jason Krezja can roll us.

Bro tell me on thing in cricket pov how does pak play so well in england compare to india and vice versa in australia where pak are sitting ducks why that is a reason for pak doing well in england and not in Australia heck pak even win in england with their batting.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

India is the hardest place to bat on these days in Test cricket

No not really it is always england for asian team and overall if india was such hard place to bat on medicore team like nz wont have won 3 nil and nz got whitewashed in sri lanka.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

It seems like modern day Aussies don't play with high intensity against India (due to IPL perhaps).

Then how come england and nz dont loose vs india in their home like aus does to india whats the cricketing reason for india playing bad in eng and nz?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Anything other than giving credit to Indian line up is pure sour grapes. What is next. Kenya doesn't show high intensity so they lose against Australia? lol like they have something called "intensity meter". Hazlewood bowled one of the most high quality fast bowling spell i have seen in a while. Same with Starc compared to 2018 and 2021 who was taken down. What is this "intensity". Suddenly they bring down the bat late? Absolute tripe of an excuse.

 

[Varun]

Bro tell me on thing in cricket pov how does pak play so well in england compare to india and vice versa in australia where pak are sitting ducks why that is a reason for pak doing well in england and not in Australia heck pak even win in england with their batting.

India don't have too bad a record in England. England couldn't win against us over there between 1996 and 2011. We have been quite competitive bar a couple of tours.

 

[jnaveen1980]

No not really it is always england for asian team and overall if india was such hard place to bat on medicore team like nz wont have won 3 nil and nz got whitewashed in sri lanka.

No not really. NZ winning because of India's diabolical captain and his selection. NZ came well prepared got the best of the toss decision in all 3 tests. One India made their own mistake.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If India hadn't run away mid series against England they would have won that series.

They are a good touring side. Probably the best touring side in cricket over the past 10 years.

 

[ethan hunt]

You look at Virat. Great batsman but has been unable to buy a run elsewhere yet he goes to Australia and scores a hundred.
Pedestrian Bowlers like Natarajan know how to bowl in Australia. Yet you expect this same line up to surrender to Tim Southee if the ball swings.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

No not really. NZ winning because of India's diabolical captain and his selection. NZ came well prepared got the best of the toss decision in all 3 tests. One India made their own mistake.

Ya i get that but still nz dominated india in that whole series and india plan for going all spin backfired will we now see india preparing flat tracks from now on bro yo avoid loosing at home because spin pitches actually nullify the gap between two teams?

 

[ethan hunt]

If India hadn't run away mid series against England they would have won that series.

They are a good touring side. Probably the best touring side in cricket over the past 10 years.

Indian cricket has improved yet they still have never won a series in Southafrica and were whitewashed in neezealand. Its more their performances in Australia that are both impressive and surprising.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

You look at Virat. Great batsman but has been unable to buy a run elsewhere yet he goes to Australia and scores a hundred.
Pedestrian Bowlers like Natarajan know how to bowl in Australia. Yet you expect this same line up to surrender to Tim Southee if the bowl swings.

That what i am telling you india is sitting duck vs swing bowling but in australia they wont get that they are great vs pace and bounce

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Indian cricket has improved yet they still have never won a series in Southafrica and were whitewashed in neezealand. Its more their performances in Australia that are both impressive and surprising.

Ya people saying india could have won that series failed to remeber india let england chase around 400 runs surely india record in eng and nz prove that india are better side in aus then those 2 places.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You look at Virat. Great batsman but has been unable to buy a run elsewhere yet he goes to Australia and scores a hundred.
Pedestrian Bowlers like Natarajan know how to bowl in Australia. Yet you expect this same line up to surrender to Tim Southee if the ball swings.

You look at Pakistan and they have sucked everywhere , including getting whitewashed at home by Bangladesh, and yet their short, mediocre trundlers like Abbas and strokeless wonders like Shan Masood help them compete in England.

Quite similar to that.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Anything other than giving credit to Indian line up is pure sour grapes. What is next. Kenya doesn't show high intensity so they lose against Australia? lol like they have something called "intensity meter". Hazlewood bowled one of the most high quality fast bowling spell i have seen in a while. Same with Starc compared to 2018 and 2021 who was taken down. What is this "intensity". Suddenly they bring down the bat late? Absolute tripe of an excuse.

Then tell us the reason for india performing so poorly in nz and england compre to australia?

 

[sweep_shot]

Then how come england and nz dont loose vs india in their home like aus does to india whats the cricketing reason for india playing bad in eng and nz?

Swinging conditions in NZ and England probably don't suit India.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

English players don't play in IPL much.

English dont play in ipl when did that happen?

 

[sweep_shot]

English dont play in ipl when did that happen?

I mean less English players in IPL. Far more Aussie players.

 

[Savak]

Ya i actually have observed this thing with indian team they get thrashed in nz and eng and actually win series in australia thats tell me one thing in cricket point of view they play pace and bounce really well which they get in australia but are bunny against swing bowling which we get in eng and nz and funny thing is pak historically has played better in nz and eng compared to india.

The same Indian team struggles badly in South Africa so this theory that they play well against pace and bounce is not accurate either. One could argue perhaps that batting in South Africa is a lot tougher than Australia now.

South Africans also don't sell themselves out that easily to the Indians in comparison to the Aussies

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[Croma]

Then tell us the reason for india performing so poorly in nz and england compre to australia?

swing.

Indians play seam and bounce better (maybe)

 

[jnaveen1980]

Ya i get that but still nz dominated india in that whole series and india plan for going all spin backfired will we now see india preparing flat tracks from now on bro yo avoid loosing at home because spin pitches actually nullify the gap between two teams?

Rohti sharma is a pathetic captain. 90% of the reason why India lost was because of Rohit sharma who let India down in all aspects. India held a proud home record. Probably unbeatable record. For once Indian lower order did not contribute. India was exposed. India has been in losing position before. But most of the time lower order bailed us out. Indian top order failures was ignroed because of that. For the first time in 10 or 12 years lower order failed. We got thrashed. India had areas to fix even when they were winning. But they simply ignored and focused on playing superstars even though they were past by selld ate.

 

[Varun]

By the way, this series has hardly begun.

It could still be 4-0 or 4-1.

 

[ethan hunt]

The same Indian team struggles badly in South Africa so this theory that they play well against pace and bounce is not accurate either. One could argue perhaps that batting in South Africa is a lot tougher than Australia now.

South Africans also don't sell themselves out that easily to the Indians in comparison to the Aussies

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Its not as simple as Australia just choosing to underperform. The same Australian side thrashed and swatted away the Indians in the World test championship final in England.
Its something to do with swing bowling.

 

[ethan hunt]

Australia need the ball to swing and Play someone like Boland to mirror the WTC final and English conditions i think.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Then tell us the reason for india performing so poorly in nz and england compre to australia?

Pitches are flat. There is no real pace and bounce like Australian pitches. Indian batting failed everywhere for the last 10 years. Even in England we were about to win 3-1. England was totally down. But India cancelled 5th test and played that last test next year. A big mistake. India lost players. Bumrah captained for the frist time. Made several errors and India failed to defend 377 even though they took big lead. Just that Indian bowling bailed us out. India hardly plays in NZ. Probably unfamiliarity. Last time we played Bumrah was right after injury break. He was not the same Bumrah.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

The same Indian team struggles badly in South Africa so this theory that they play well against pace and bounce is not accurate either. One could argue perhaps that batting in South Africa is a lot tougher than Australia now.

South Africans also don't sell themselves out that easily to the Indians in comparison to the Aussies

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Ya could ve the reason bro but i feel south africa has harder pitches compare to australia whats your take on this?

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Australia need the ball to swing and Play someone like Boland to mirror the WTC final and English conditions i think.

Ya true boland can be handy but australia then need to create pitches like how england prepared them vs india and see india loosing easily.

 

[Savak]

I will add tho the 2018 South African ball tampering saga forced Cricket Australia to come down hard on the team and to get rid of misbehavior towards the opposition

 

[jnaveen1980]

Once India gets their batting right they will beat every team every where. Only reason India stands apart in Australia is because that is the only place where India bats well. They fail in all the places. They failed even in Bangladesh. But bowling and tailender bailed us out. Once we lose all the oldies, inconsistent performaers and come up with new team that can bat well everywhere they will be winning other places as well.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Pitches are flat. There is no real pace and bounce like Australian pitches. Indian batting failed everywhere for the last 10 years. Even in England we were about to win 3-1. England was totally down. But India cancelled 5th test and played that last test next year. A big mistake. India lost players. Bumrah captained for the frist time. Made several errors and India failed to defend 377 even though they took big lead. Just that Indian bowling bailed us out. India hardly plays in NZ. Probably unfamiliarity. Last time we played Bumrah was right after injury break. He was not the same Bumrah.

Bro but cricket is such a sport where conditions matter alot you play this same indian team in south africa and nz they will struggle to put runs on board same jaiswal will have hard time facing swing pitches why cant australia have pitches like sa or nz prepare vs india any reason?

 

[Rajdeep]

Apart from 2011 tour, India never got a pasting in Eng. We even won the series there in 2007

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bro but cricket is such a sport where conditions matter alot you play this same indian team in south africa and nz they will struggle to put runs on board same jaiswal will have hard time facing swing pitches why cant australia have pitches like sa or nz prepare vs india any reason?

They are thrashing everyone on the same pitches. Why would they want to change. They even bowled India out for 36 runs. Once India gets their batting sorted out they will beat NZ/England/SA as well in their den. It si not like India has not won in SA. India bowled SA out for 55 runs winning the 2nd test. First test ball was overly misbehaving. Balls were untouchable. That was deliberately prepared. Just remember Australia has never lost a perth test. 4 out of 4 wins. So they were expected to win here.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Indian cricket has improved yet they still have never won a series in Southafrica and were whitewashed in neezealand. Its more their performances in Australia that are both impressive and surprising.

True.

But in your OP you say they are mediocre touring team.

I think that's incorrect. They are better than most so can't be mediocre.

 

[mb3407]

Its called something like upping their game against the best

 

[uppercut]

Bro but cricket is such a sport where conditions matter alot you play this same indian team in south africa and nz they will struggle to put runs on board same jaiswal will have hard time facing swing pitches why cant australia have pitches like sa or nz prepare vs india any reason?

Cricket pitches are not like birthday cakes or T-Shirts that you can customize per your needs. It is very hard to do that. About the only thing that the groundsman can do is leave more grass which is what they did in this match and the hot sun took care of it.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Its called something like upping their game against the best

Imagine your team losing every single test for 25 years and your rival is beating them for fun. These kind of insecure analysis unsurpirisngly pop up.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Imagine your team losing every single test for 25 years and your rival is beating them for fun. These kind of insecure analysis unsurpirisngly pop up.

But its not like india has 100 wins in australia last time i checked india record in australia is like 9 test wins compare to pak 5 wins and pak havent won anyting there last 20 years and dont forget this is pak weakest era india so called best era and record in australia is still not that great for india.

 

[uppercut]

The same Indian team struggles badly in South Africa so this theory that they play well against pace and bounce is not accurate either. One could argue perhaps that batting in South Africa is a lot tougher than Australia now.

South Africans also don't sell themselves out that easily to the Indians in comparison to the Aussies

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Cant compare with SA and NZ .... these series are very short and if you dont do well in the first test the series is pretty much gone. Even so we have drawn series in SA and Eng recently.

 

[JaDed]

Aus only smashes Pakistan and no other team as such that’s why Pakistani posters feel the burden when India does well in Aus.

Even before IPL we have had close series vs Aus, draw in 2004, closely fought series after that.

Also in Eng we have drawn last one and won in 2007, when was last time major touring nations won including Aus?

SA we drew in 2010, and that was ATG SA team, Sachin vs Steyn was dreamy.

Our only issue has always been NZ.. no other place as such.

 

[mb3407]

But its not like india has 100 wins in australia last time i checked india record in australia is like 9 test wins compare to pak 5 wins and pak havent won anyting there last 20 years and dont forget this is pak weakest era india so called best era and record in australia is still not that great for india.

Two away series in a span of 5 years if enough and more than anything Imrans, Waseems and Waqars managed.

Not sure any team has 100 wins against another expect maybe England and Australia against each other

 

[jnaveen1980]

But its not like india has 100 wins in australia last time i checked india record in australia is like 9 test wins compare to pak 5 wins and pak havent won anyting there last 20 years and dont forget this is pak weakest era india so called best era and record in australia is still not that great for india.

Weakest era for 24 years? Indian batting is one of the worst in any era. So it is not quiet " the best". Bowlers saved us

 

[Mesozoic]

"Mediocre travelling team"....

I would really like to know which team in world cricket currently is a better travelling side than India.

Come on OP. @ethan hunt

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Aus only smashes Pakistan and no other team as such that’s why Pakistani posters feel the burden when India does well in Aus.

Even before IPL we have had close series vs Aus, draw in 2004, closely fought series after that.

Also in Eng we have drawn last one and won in 2007, when was last time major touring nations won including Aus?

SA we drew in 2010, and that was ATG SA team, Sachin vs Steyn was dreamy.

Our only issue has always been NZ.. no other place as such.

And record of both india and pak in australia is like india has 9 wins compare to pak 5 test wins you guys are acting like india has won 100 tests in australia and pak has lost 100 there and dont forget this last 20 years was pak weakest era compare to so called india best era still india has been rubbish in eng and nz compare to pak have a conversation on this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

And record of both india and pak in australia is like india has 9 wins compare to pak 5 test wins you guys are acting like india has won 100 tests in australia and pak has lost 100 there and dont forget this last 20 years was pak weakest era compare to so called india best era still india has been rubbish in eng and nz compare to pak have a conversation on this.

India has series wins. Winning a dead rubber is no big achievement.

This is from 1985/86. India was in winning position in all 3 tests. 2nd test rain saved them. First test also rain saved them

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

"Mediocre travelling team"....

I would really like to know which team in world cricket currently is a better travelling side than India.

Come on OP. @ethan hunt

Well not sure why you guys act like india has 100 test wins and pak has none lol india record is equally bad in aus overall record of india and pak is india 9 wins compare to pak 5 wins nothing to be proud of india record man.

"Mediocre travelling team"....

I would really like to know which team in world cricket currently is a better travelling side than India.

Come on OP. @ethan hunt

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

India has series wins. Winning a dead rubber is no big achievement.

This is from 1985/86. India was in winning position in all 3 tests. 2nd test rain saved them. First test also rain saved them

Pak has series wins in england and nz and i really dont rate pak good tourung side same with india both countries still got rubbish record in sena countries i am actually having a dig on those posters who are acting like india has 100 test wins in aus and pak has got 0 wins there lol

 

[uppercut]

But its not like india has 100 wins in australia last time i checked india record in australia is like 9 test wins compare to pak 5 wins and pak havent won anyting there last 20 years and dont forget this is pak weakest era india so called best era and record in australia is still not that great for india.

Thats a very misleading stat as it does not account for Testmatches that we were winning but weather and multiple injuries to key players robbed us and the match ended in draw. It also does not account for rogue umpires wrecking matches prior to DRS. Also pakistan has just 4 wins EVER in Aus with the last win almost 25 yrs ago followed by 4 or 5 whitewashes. Whereas India has won 4 Test matches in just the previous 2 series.

 

[Mesozoic]

Well not sure why you guys act like india has 100 test wins and pak has none lol india record is equally bad in aus overall record of india and pak is india 9 wins compare to pak 5 wins nothing to be proud of india record man.

Why you hyper-ventilating bruh? I just asked a simple question.

OP stated that India are a mediocre travelling side so there must be other teams in the world who are currently better than them currently? We just want to hear the names. Come on now..relax.

 

[sweep_shot]

I will add tho the 2018 South African ball tampering saga forced Cricket Australia to come down hard on the team and to get rid of misbehavior towards the opposition

Yes.

That sandpaper incident softened them up. Before that, they were the old ruthless Aussies.

Sandpaper incident gave Australia soft Paine/Cummins era.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Thats a very misleading stat as it does not account for Testmatches that we were winning but weather and multiple injuries to key players robbed us and the match ended in draw. It also does not account for rogue umpires wrecking matches prior to DRS. Also pakistan has just 4 wins EVER in Aus with the last win almost 25 yrs ago followed by 4 or 5 whitewashes. Whereas India has won 4 Test matches in just the previous 2 series.

So what does that tell us still india record is nothing to be proud of and funny thing is pak odi record in australia vs australia is better than india what does this tell us nothing and pak is the only asian team to win twice odi series down under.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Why you hyper-ventilating bruh? I just asked a simple question.

OP stated that India are a mediocre travelling side so there must be other teams in the world who are currently better than them currently? We just want to hear the names. Come on now..relax.

I am punjabi bro so always relaxed i am just saying both teams need to do better than those record they got in sena period.

 

[mb3407]

Why you hyper-ventilating bruh? I just asked a simple question.

OP stated that India are a mediocre travelling side so there must be other teams in the world who are currently better than them currently? We just want to hear the names. Come on now..relax.

This question will never be answered. They might go 25-30 years in past

 

[Buffet]

how does pak play so well in england compare to india

Does it?

Since Jan 2000, both have W/L of 0.4 in Eng.

Since Jan 2000, Ind has 1 series win and 2 series draw in Eng.

Since Jan 2000, Pak has 3 series draw in Eng.


I think India doing so well in Aus is just an exception due to Bumrah debuting in 2018. India was competetive at times in Aus ealrier and could draw tests due to good batting and even win one test here and there, but it's pretty much Bumrah. He is simply in different class and elevated the entire pace unit to another level. Same other bowlers started doing far better when Bumrah arrived. Indians were losing left and right outside Asia before that, he changed that.

 

[ethan hunt]

Imagine your team losing every single test for 25 years and your rival is beating them for fun. These kind of insecure analysis unsurpirisngly pop up.

I dont personally consider them rivals. Pak was the better team for 60 odd years. India probably better now. Im just trying to understand india in aus dynamic better.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Does it?

Since Jan 2000, both have W/L of 0.4 in Eng.

Since Jan 2000, Ind has 1 series win and 2 series draw in Eng.

Since Jan 2000, Pak has 3 series draw in Eng.


I think India doing so well in Aus is just an exception due to Bumrah debuting in 2018. India was competetive at times in Aus ealrier and could draw tests due to good batting and even win one test here and there, but it's pretty much Bumrah. He is simply in different class and elevated the entire pace unit to another level. Same other bowlers started doing far better when Bumrah arrived. Indians were losing left and right outside Asia before that, he changed that.

Ya i get that but plz stop behaving like india has got 100 wins and pak got 0 wins in aus both teams record still is mediocre to say the least just 5 wins diff in aus india got 9 wins compare to pak 4 wins and funny thing is pak has better odi record than india in australia vs australia

 

[Buffet]

If India hadn't run away mid series against England they would have won that series.

They are a good touring side. Probably the best touring side in cricket over the past 10 years.

+1, they were 2-1 up then.

Even if thety don't win, they have been competetive in most away tough tours and fought. It wasn't the case earlier. I think Aus suits good stroke makers and Indians do bat reasonably well there and then you combine with ATG bowling unit , they won two series in Aus.

About current ongoing series, let's not jump the gun and write off Aus. It's a long test series. Many visiting sides don't do much after winning first test.

 

[uppercut]

So what does that tell us still india record is nothing to be proud of and funny thing is pak odi record in australia vs australia is better than india what does this tell us nothing and pak is the only asian team to win twice odi series down under.

What do you mean nothing to be proud off ? You can count the number of teams that won back-to-back series in Aus with fingers of one hand. Add the 2 home series that makes it 4 series in a row which is just RARE !

This is especially funny coming from the fan of a team that has lost 14 test matches back to back in Aus. There is a whole generation of Pakistan fans that have no recollection of what it feels like to win a single Test match in Aus ( let alone a series lol ) and we are not talking about ODI's here. Topic is test cricket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I dont personally consider them rivals. Pak was the better team for 60 odd years. India probably better now. Im just trying to understand india in aus dynamic better.

I am talking about India as your rival. India always competed well against Australia in the last 25 years except a series or two

 

[jnaveen1980]

+1, they were 2-1 up then.

Even if thety don't win, they have been competetive in most away tough tours and fought. It wasn't the case earlier. I think Aus suits good stroke makers and Indians do bat reasonably well there and then you combine with ATG bowling unit , they won two series in Aus.

About current ongoing series, let's not jump the gun and write off Aus. It's a long test series. Many visiting sides don't do much after winning first test.

Yes. Moment Australia wins next 2 tests these threads will stop popping up.

 

[sweep_shot]

True.

But in your OP you say they are mediocre touring team.

I think that's incorrect. They are better than most so can't be mediocre.

India couldn't win series in England, NZ, and South Africa.

They are currently not mediocre but also not the best.

 

[Mesozoic]

Imagine your team losing every single test for 25 years and your rival is beating them for fun. These kind of insecure analysis unsurpirisngly pop up.

Reeks of small dog syndrome lol.

OP is a known Indophobe (just like dozens of other sad individuals here) who has a history of throwing hissy fits everytime India. There's a reason why no sensible question has been answered in this thread so far.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I saw the same excuse crap when Afghanistan lost to India and beat Pakistan.

 

[Buffet]

Bro but cricket is such a sport where conditions matter alot you play this same indian team in south africa and nz they will struggle to put runs on board same jaiswal will have hard time facing swing pitches why cant australia have pitches like sa or nz prepare vs india any reason?

Aus pitches has been always like this. Bounce and seam.

 

[Mesozoic]

They are currently not mediocre but also not the best

Good.. finally someone had the courage.

Now tell me...who's the "best" touring side currently?

 

[Rajdeep]

India couldn't win series in England, NZ, and South Africa.

They are currently not mediocre but also not the best.

They are not the best if you compare teams of yesteryears but they are the best touring side among present teams.

Who according to you is the best if not India?

 

[uppercut]

+1, they were 2-1 up then.

Even if thety don't win, they have been competetive in most away tough tours and fought. It wasn't the case earlier. I think Aus suits good stroke makers and Indians do bat reasonably well there and then you combine with ATG bowling unit , they won two series in Aus.

About current ongoing series, let's not jump the gun and write off Aus. It's a long test series. Many visiting sides don't do much after winning first test.

And the 1st test we were robbed as rain washed out the last days play with us needing about 150 runs to win with all 10 wkts in hand.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

It's way easier to a bat in Australia than in India where even Steven O'Keefe or Jason Krezja can roll us.

Also, like Australian wickets, indian wickets have good bounce and carry, which nullifies the Australian threat against the Indian bats.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

What do you mean nothing to be proud off ? You can count the number of teams that won back-to-back series against Aus with fingers of one hand. Add the 2 home series that makes it 4 series in a row which is just RARE !

This is especially funny coming from the fan of a team that has lost 14 test matches back to back in Aus. There is a whole generation of Pakistan fans that have no recollection of what it feels like to win a single Test match in Aus ( let alone a series lol ) and we are not talking about ODI's here. Topic is test cricket.

Look man i know how to handle all those troll of india we pujabis know how to deal with them dont ever forget pak always have been the best side compare to india its just now so called india best era which they have won something you lot just got whitewashed vs nz i mean who get whitewashed vs nz keep making those cobra spin pitches in india and keep playing ashwin and jadeja there even glenn philips look murli there and you guys compare ashwin and jadeja to noman and sajid funny.

 

[mb3407]

India couldn't win series in England, NZ, and South Africa.

They are currently not mediocre but also not the best.

No touring team did better in the past 10 years so they definitely have been the best and not mediocre in that decade

You always bring up not winning in SA. I say drawing them away from home is a pretty good result too.

 

[mb3407]

No touring team did better in the past 10 years so they definitely have been the best and not mediocre in that decade

You always bring up not winning in SA. I say drawing them away from home is a pretty good result too.

+1 they drew England away too

 

[jnaveen1980]

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Aus pitches has been always like this. Bounce and seam.

yea they are not going to change basic nature of the pitch just because a jealoust pakistan fan wants it. THey scheduled in such a way that India plays at Perth first as Australia has never lost a test here. Here we are . Once again Indians have stepped up.

 

[jnaveen1980]

No touring team did better in the past 10 years so they definitely have been the best and not mediocre in that decade

You always bring up not winning in SA. I say drawing them away from home is a pretty good result too.

Australia lost in Bangladesh, England lost in bangladesh. NZ lost in Bangladesh. You have to suck off the charts to lose to bangladesh

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Good.. finally someone had the courage.

Now tell me...who's the "best" touring side currently?

You want to know its south africa in back in those time now i think india is just there about but india need to stop making spin cobra pitches where even glenn philips is bowling like murli its actually play in the hands of the opposition team.

 

[Rajdeep]

India up their game when facing Australia. This series gets massive hype from media both home and down under and Indian players look to play out of their skin. They prepare well for this tour and make it a mission to do well here.

Australian pitches suits our batters where ball comes nicely onto the bat compared to say Eng where ball swings and SA where ball seams around all day.

 

[uppercut]

Look man i know how to handle all those troll of india we pujabis know how to deal with them dont ever forget pak always have been the best side compare to india its just now so called india best era which they have won something you lot just got whitewashed vs nz i mean who get whitewashed vs nz keep making those cobra spin pitches in india and keep playing ashwin and jadeja there even glenn philips look murli there and you guys compare ashwin and jadeja to noman and sajid funny.

shifting the goal post now to different zip code ? What has India vs Pakistan or India vs NZ got to do with the topic being discussed in this thread ( which is about test performances in Aus ) ?