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What would have been Glenn McGrath's average and economy in this era?

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Glean Mcgrath one of the chief architects of Aus 1999-2007 team where they won much more than they lost.
Mcgrath was a machine bowling in the corridor ball to ball.Finished with 384 odi and 563 test wickets and formed a record partnership with Warne.
Had he bowl today in Odi's and tests, what would have been his avg and Economy rates?
 
Still the same. He is a once in a generation bowler.
 
McGrath was perfect.

His numbers will have stood the test of time in this era.
 
+3 for the flat pitches. +3 for the shorter boundaries/thicker bats. +2 for power plays/fielding restrictions.

He would average around 30.

Just like Saeed Anwar would average 50+ with 85+ SR which is widely accepted here.
 
Average of around 23-25 with ER of 4.2-4.5. Outstanding bowler who did well even in flatter pitches of those days.
 
Same. He would have still managed to outskill current batting greats like Kohli, Root, Kane.
 
mcgrath, warne vs aus. batting fed off each other - it was like a well-oiled machine.
However, if you remove the top 3-4 of aus batting of 2000-2008, I think he will end up with 25% lesser perfomance. Also, if your team does not regularly win, you might not have the zeal to keep up your game. He might have retired much earlier too.

A good example would be walsh, ambrose - they were on par with Mcgrath, but they had such weaker batting teams, one retired a bit early and the other was over worked rendering him less powerful.
 
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The fact that current generation batsmen are more risk taking, I would expect McGrath to have better strike rate and average in today's world. Even on flattest wickets, he was a terror.
 
Nah, these old era trundlers couldn’t hack it now. He’d be getting smacked into the stands every other ball.
 
Any ATG player would have been great in any era. If you cannot confidently say that a player would have been great in any era then said player is not an ATG.

There are many bowlers from the 90s that would have gotten smashed to bits today and even more from the 80s (:kapil) but McGrath is most certainly not one of them.
 
Even better. He would be having the likes of Rohit for breakfast any day of the week on any pitch, and probably would have ended Kohli's career around 2014 when he was a tailender facing any ball on the 4th stump with a bit of movement.
 
Proactive_ said:
Even better. He would be having the likes of Rohit for breakfast any day of the week on any pitch, and probably would have ended Kohli's career around 2014 when he was a tailender facing any ball on the 4th stump with a bit of movement.
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By 2014 Kohli had 19 ODI and 7 Test centuries. And he was a tailender? I know you are craving for attention but you need to try little harder to compete with few here.
 
Canford Cliffs said:
By 2014 Kohli had 19 ODI and 7 Test centuries. And he was a tailender? I know you are craving for attention but you need to try little harder to compete with few here.
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Forget about me, what I'm pretty sure about is that you won't need to compete with anyone as far as lack of comprehension skills go. You have the 1st spot pretty much locked down. Give the post a read again, maybe you'll understand it better, and if you still don't, you can go and check Kohli's incredible 2014 England series stats for reference.
 
Proactive_ said:
Forget about me, what I'm pretty sure about is that you won't need to compete with anyone as far as lack of comprehension skills go. You have the 1st spot pretty much locked down. Give the post a read again, maybe you'll understand it better, and if you still don't, you can go and check Kohli's incredible 2014 England series stats for reference.
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Lol I am well aware of Kohli's struggle in ONE series but it seems you are too blind to see his success in OTHERS.

I also wouldn't mind if you had said Kohli would hv struggled against McGrath. He was terrific bowler no doubt.

But you took a needless dig at Kohli saying he was a tailender in 2014. A tailender had 19 ODI and 7 test centuries (including in J'burg and Wellington)?

Hence I said bruv, try bit harder if you want proper attention. Write an essay perhaps?
 
Can't say for certain what he would have averaged by I'm sure he would have had very good numbers.
 
He probably wouldn't be as successful in ODI. Short format has changed significantly since his retirement and with new rules, I don't think he would have succeed to the same extent like Akram who had more variety.

Wouldn't make any difference in tests.
 
Proactive_ said:
Even better. He would be having the likes of Rohit for breakfast any day of the week on any pitch, and probably would have ended Kohli's career around 2014 when he was a tailender facing any ball on the 4th stump with a bit of movement.
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Your obsession with Kohli is hilarious.
 
Chrish said:
He probably wouldn't be as successful in ODI. Short format has changed significantly since his retirement and with new rules, I don't think he would have succeed to the same extent like Akram who had more variety.

Wouldn't make any difference in tests.
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McGrath without variety still was better than Akram. Wonder what if he had skills of wasim in his bowling he would have been twice better easily.
 
He would have owned batsmen era after era, he was rarer than rare. Take a bow, greatest fast bowler of all time bar none..................... Wouldve loved to see a Kohli vs Mcgrath battle...
 
May have had slightly worse stats (especially ER) but he would have been the best bowler by a long distance. The greatest pace bowler of all time, my first name in any world XI, all hail Mr Glenn McGrath. Modern batsmen are so lucky to escape his Chinese water torture, nobody made ATG batsmen look like fools as often as the mighty 'Pigeon'.
 
His economy might have been around 5, but I reckon he'd average about the same in ODI cricket. I wouldn't be surprised if his test average and strike rate is even lower in the current era where most batsmen cannot bat patiently against good line and length bowling.
 
Might be slightly higher economy but his average would have remained the same had he been born in this era.
I think that his average might have been little bit higher had he been playing in Lillee's era. Mcgrath vs someone like Boycott or Gavaskar would be hell of a contest of patience.
 
If the likes of Lara and Sachin could not dominate him then no reason to think anyone from current era would have done so. Mcgrath was impossible to dominate you could survive against him for a while if you were a good leaver of the ball which 99% batmen are not any more infact they dont know how to leave the ball at all.
 
kholi will also not survive against him as Kholi's weakness was Mcgraths biggest strength exposing batsmen outside off stump if anderson can expose it (Even in recent series anderson did find edge of the kholi bat quit often) then you can bet your house on Mcgrath doing better.
 
Pakhs said:
He had an upper hand on both and stopped them from playing the kind of innings they were famous for against other opposition.
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McGrath had complete upper hand on Lara but Sachin took him head on in many matches. It was even stevens between McGrath-Sachin.
 
Robert said:
Nah, these old era trundlers couldn’t hack it now. He’d be getting smacked into the stands every other ball.
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Mcgrath is from an older era but not the old amateur era of cricketers of whom you tend to exaggerate when it comes to their calibre. Also he is only 1-2 generations behind the Aus current team but ofc Alan Davidson in your eyes belongs to the same league as him who wasn't merely an ATG but a top tier one!
 
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McGrath had complete upper hand on Lara but Sachin took him head on in many matches. It was even stevens between McGrath-Sachin.
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In ODIs Mcgrath had the wood over SRT. However in test matches it was a cat and mouse game. SRT only struggled in 1 series vs Mcgrath that was the tennis elbow series where he was not fit and did not play the whole series. The previous 2 test series before that he finished with batting averages of 47 & 50 were both Mcgrath and Warne played...
 
Canford Cliffs said:
McGrath had complete upper hand on Lara but Sachin took him head on in many matches. It was even stevens between McGrath-Sachin.
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I dont agree he had upper hand on both, Lara actually played some epic innings against him but Mcgrath actually won all big moments against both of them. I am not under rating Sachin or Lara but Mcgrath was just that good he was a master of his art.
 
Sam99 said:
McGrath without variety still was better than Akram. Wonder what if he had skills of wasim in his bowling he would have been twice better easily.
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His accuracy was his strength/ skill. He was better bowler in tests. In ODI I would take Akram.
 
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