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What's your opinion on UFOs?

......and what about the sightings of aliens in the ancient times. There are some drawings of UFO's in ancient hindu books called as "vaahans". either they are just amazing creative imagination of the ancient hindus or they did sight aliens:O

PS: Afridi is not an alien, just an unearthly earthling:|
 
I think it is a bit arogant for us to assume that we are the only planet in this vast universe with life. I am sure there are millions of life forms out there but I doubt we will ever come into contact with them.
 
Hash said:
I think it is a bit arogant for us to assume that we are the only planet in this vast universe with life. I am sure there are millions of life forms out there but I doubt we will ever come into contact with them.


Why do you think that, how about the sightings we have on earth?

I think they know we are here, we just don't have the technology yet to know where and if they exist!
 
nikred said:
......and what about the sightings of aliens in the ancient times. There are some drawings of UFO's in ancient hindu books called as "vaahans". either they are just amazing creative imagination of the ancient hindus or they did sight aliens:O

PS: Afridi is not an alien, just an unearthly earthling:|


Well there is a lot of consipiracy about this, there is also people who believe that the Ancient Egyptians had help from Aliens to built there pyramids!

So what does this book "vaahans" implicate?
 
Hash said:
I think it is a bit arogant for us to assume that we are the only planet in this vast universe with life. I am sure there are millions of life forms out there but I doubt we will ever come into contact with them.

Exactly.

It's a question of probability. It's highly unlikely that we are the ONLY life form in a vast universe (which we know next to nothing of).

This is a fascinating question, and one that will most likely not be resolved in our lifetimes.

Just think, what other life forms might be like...how they live, are they superior, inferior? what values they might have..... its fascinating.
 
Boys_played_well said:
Exactly.

It's a question of probability. It's highly unlikely that we are the ONLY life form in a vast universe (which we know next to nothing of).

This is a fascinating question, and one that will most likely not be resolved in our lifetimes.

Just think, what other life forms might be like...how they live, are they superior, inferior? what values they might have..... its fascinating.

Also what there religion is as well? Or do they have a religion!

Cause doesn't the Quran say, all things must bow to Allah, so there must be a system of worship in these other worlds, and can it be Islam? I am not trying to be bias, but just thinking!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
Also what there religion is as well? Or do they have a religion!

Cause doesn't the Quran say, all things must bow to Allah, so there must be a system of worship in these other worlds, and can it be Islam? I am not trying to be bias, but just thinking!

I'm the wrong person to ask bro :)

I'm fairly certain Islam and other religions are earthly creations restricted to our world.

Perhaps those civilizations have some system of faith? This notion of alien life is something I don't think we can't comprehend.
 
Boys_played_well said:
I'm the wrong person to ask bro :)

I'm fairly certain Islam and other religions are earthly creations restricted to our world.

Perhaps those civilizations have some system of faith? This notion of alien life is something I don't think we can't comprehend.

Yes bro I understand what you are saying!

I am just throwing something in there, which kinda make sense, cause there can only be ONE GOD! The reason to that is in my knowledge is, can the world have two superpowers? No right, we saw what happened with the USA vs USSR! The thing is there is one being that is supreme and thus we follow! So if in the Quran it says all things in the universe must bow to Allah and believe thereis one GOD and Mohammad (PBUH) is his messenger, then wouldn't that apply to them too? Unless GOD never revealed this stuff to them, then yes different story! But that is a issue of another day, probaly no one in the world can answer! Back to the topic, I just am astonished on these sightings, what do they mean, they certainly can't be man made, can they?
 
Im sure I have read that the Quran suggests "other worlds", which could be interpreted as aliens. But im also not the right person to ask.
 
There is a good analogy between ants and humans, to draw a parallel between humans and more advanced life forms.

When we come across an ants nest, we dont stop and marvel at its intricacies, and dynamics. Most likely, we would step past it. The same can be said for super civilisations - why would they stop and wonder at our primitive life?
 
Timing of contact will determine whether we are like ants to them or they are ants to us. Current level of human technology is inadequate to reach alien worlds, if there are any. A contact at this stage would surely have to be aliens reaching us with their vastly superior technology.
 
I do not think it is about technology. We only have 5 sences and they too are very limited. We know there are other beings (animals) who can do better in these 5 sences and there are others who have other sences as well. We are constrained by our sences and physical laws. Based on this thought if there are any aliens they may be un-reachable for us. We do not know what sences they have and if they know about our presence or not.

Aliens may be able to change their shape or form and that can explain some of the sightings of strange sightings. We know junns can change form!
 
Very good topic, mmk.

I love discussing UFOs, aliens and their plausibility. The Phoenix Lights are quite a spectacle, aren't they? I saw a similar documentary on Discovery Science that tried to counter the UFO claims by saying that it was actually military flares that were sent up over Phoenix that night, and the pattern in which each of the lights diminished correlated with how a flare would go out after burning itself out.

Take a close look at the Lights though and it really does look like the side of a huge triangular craft though, doesn't it?
 
The Blazer said:
Very good topic, mmk.

I love discussing UFOs, aliens and their plausibility. The Phoenix Lights are quite a spectacle, aren't they? I saw a similar documentary on Discovery Science that tried to counter the UFO claims by saying that it was actually military flares that were sent up over Phoenix that night, and the pattern in which each of the lights diminished correlated with how a flare would go out after burning itself out.

Take a close look at the Lights though and it really does look like the side of a huge triangular craft though, doesn't it?


Yes, I at first thought the samething that it was some military experiment too, but then when I analyzed closely I thought no it can't be a military experiment, then again the US Military would be the firt to come out and say it was them?

But Blazer, what do we know of Area 51, its not a myth, there are things there that are very high tech, so you never know!

The Pheonix Lights is just one example, there are a lot of sightings, in matter of fact I have seen something here in NC, it was 6 objects flying high and I blinked, I swear those things were gone, I know damn well I was not hallucinating!

Aliens and UFO's is something that is beyound our power!

Coming to talk about senses, I for one see no correlation in this, but where you mention that they change there size/form, pretty much there dynamic, that is very much plausable! There are probaly worlds way more civilised and some maybe like we were 5,000 years ago, who know!

I for one think that there are other worlds, but they have either gone by our stage, and have evolved to some "super humans" that we will eventually get to! And then there are worlds that have still yet to reach us! This is a very debatable topic!

Who knows how the human body will be shaped after lets say, 5 million years? So maybe these aliens used to be us the modern day human and they come and watch us, and say "they still have a long way to go" you never know! But that is just my hypothesis!

Come on PP'ers I want to know what yall think, more responses to this, should be interesting debate!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
But Blazer, what do we know of Area 51, its not a myth, there are things there that are very high tech, so you never know!
That's right. Area 51 can even be seen on Google Earth. :))

mmkextreme_1 said:
The Pheonix Lights is just one example, there are a lot of sightings
Perhaps not exclusively a UFO report, but check up on the Tunguska explosion of 1908 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event). Something with 1,000 times the power of a nuclear bomb exploded up in the skies- No one knows what caused such a catastrophic explosion, but soil samples of the affected ground did later reveal traces of radiation.
 
That's right. Area 51 can even be seen on Google Earth. :))

lol but hey there is always underground? There is more the area 51 then you think, also there are more areas that are secretive then area 51, I would gurantee that!


Perhaps not exclusively a UFO report, but check up on the Tunguska explosion of 1908 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event). Something with 1,000 times the power of a nuclear bomb exploded up in the skies- No one knows what caused such a catastrophic explosion, but soil samples of the affected ground did later reveal traces of radiation.

Yes I read about that, that slipped my mind, was always very curious on that issue/topic to, any idea to what exactly happened?
 
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mmkextreme_1 said:
was always very curious on that issue/topic to, any idea to what exactly happened?
Who knows? A comet? A meteor? A craft? A bomb?

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^Also Blazer, isn't the US government now starting have somethings censored by google earth, was listening to something on CNN on this issue, well military sites were the key things that were suppose to be censored! Makes you think, doesn't it lol?

Also how do you know what google earth is showing you true, no one is aloud anywhere near Area 51? lol, could be decieving to eyes, never know the US government lol!
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S such censorship. To be fair though, military bases do really need to be kept hidden!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
Still remains a mistory to this day, how about this one Blazer man,

check this one out, it was pretty fishy too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kecksburg_UFO_incident

That is weird!
Fascinating. Apparently locals claim to have seen "armed soldiers cordoning off the area and a large metallic acorn-shaped object bearing strange hieroglyphics driven off at speed on the back of a lorry."

Wonder if there's any updates on this, as the JRASC article got proven inaccurate, leading the case wide open.
 
The Blazer said:
Fascinating. Apparently locals claim to have seen "armed soldiers cordoning off the area and a large metallic acorn-shaped object bearing strange hieroglyphics driven off at speed on the back of a lorry."

Wonder if there's any updates on this, as the JRASC article got proven inaccurate, leading the case wide open.


No this is real as it comes, hell the US military even admitted that they sealed the area off, and said it was a jet fighter crash, but if that was the case, what was the use of coming and picking everything up that quick, and I don't think all the eye witnesses are wrong, its similar to the Phoenix Lights, all eye witnesses!

Also I have heard of consipricacy such as that the US government has UFO and alien bodies hidden, but won't reveal them because if you look at it, it will cause caos in the world, it will destroy some religions, but I would think that would be minor wouldnt it?

Have heard of that mexican fighters that saw the 6 glowing lights or something like that? I swear there are countless cases out there!
 
Oh just for the record people, the US government has laws that have been passed, that state what happens if aliens do come and land on planet Earth!

Its like first the police comes in and then the army, isn't that a little hostile, but I can see where that comes from, but hey they still have laws for the unimaginable, as of now!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
No this is real as it comes
I know; I meant the article that was trying to refute the UFO claims.

mmkextreme_1 said:
but won't reveal them because if you look at it, it will cause caos in the world, it will destroy some religions, but I would think that would be minor wouldnt it?
The consequences would be dire and grave. For a start, it would jeopardise human knowledge about the sciences and it would inevitably lead us to question the basis of our own creation.
 
The Blazer said:
I know; I meant the article that was trying to refute the UFO claims.

Yeah I got you there lol!


The consequences would be dire and grave. For a start, it would jeopardise human knowledge about the sciences and it would inevitably lead us to question the basis of our own creation.


Actually why would it, I am taking into context that all three monotheistic religion in the world! I don't know much about Jewdism, but Islam said that there are "others" living in the universe, so that wouldn't come as a surprise to us, yes it might break up a few smaller religious group, but I don't think it would have a wide spread inpact, taking into context that the three monothestic religions say that they are others in the universe!

I am trying to think what major religion in the world would be effected by this on a massive scale, I can't come up with none! Buddism or Hindiusm, I don't know much about, but someone above mentioned that in Hinduism, there is a book that says something this, so I don't know!
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
Actually why would it, I am taking into context that all three monotheistic religion in the world! I don't know much about Jewdism, but Islam said that there are "others" living in the universe, so that wouldn't come as a surprise to us, yes it might break up a few smaller religious group, but I don't think it would have a wide spread inpact, taking into context that the three monothestic religions say that they are others in the universe!

I am trying to think what major religion in the world would be effected by this on a massive scale, I can't come up with none! Buddism or Hindiusm, I don't know much about, but someone above mentioned that in Hinduism, there is a book that says something this, so I don't know!
How do we know that such beings would not come and proclaim to be God themselves? That our origins lie not in the Garden of Eden but the test tube of some otherworldy entity?
 
The Blazer said:
How do we know that such beings would not come and proclaim to be God themselves? That our origins lie not in the Garden of Eden but the test tube of some otherworldy entity?



If that was to happen, then I would expect ALLAH to interfere, and I am not question the al mighty but if such things was to happen, I would think that ALLAH would do something, and I don't even want to think the other way around, cause that would go against my morals and ISLAM!

Ok I will, if nothing was to happen and no GOD was to appear then, well yes it would be a catostraphic incident, and if the aliens are supereor, then I guess we have to do as they say, I don't know, couldn't think of anything like that! Hmmm
 
So far none of the planets that have been found can support life. Because the planets that have been discovered outside of our solar system, that may exist outside the habitable zone are all gas giants. Our solar system, so far is the only one known, where the rocky planets are closer to the sun, and the gas giants on the outside. All of the other ones found so far have the gas giants close to their sun. But there have been I think a couple of gas giants discovered to be in the habitable zone. Now even though gas giants may not be able to support life, what intrigues scientists is that their moons may harbour life.

But I think it'd be impossible to reach them because they're thousands of light years away, and since nothing travels faster than light, I think we're very very very far off from exploring the far reaches of space.

But there are many satellite arrays set up which transmit radio signals to different systems, and these satellites also monitor for any incoming ones which may be sent.

But there are estimated to be 100 billion galaxies in the universe, each of which may contain atleast 100 billion stars. It'd be hard to believe that we're alone in the universe, just because of the odds.
 
In theory, any planet can support life, they simply cannot harbour carbon-based lifeforms that rely on similar products as we do to survive. Microbiological remnants of life have been discovered on Mars, which immediately puts to bed any suggestion that life does not exist outside of our Earth. However, scientists do not seek life - they "Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence", implying a similar or superior level of intelligence to our own. Microbiological life is likely to exist on numerous planets, but apart from being able to kill us it is unlikely to satisfy that inquisitiveness that is natural among humans, particularly the intelligentsia (you'd be inquisitive too if you had no life and were scared of your own planet).

By definition, UFOs exist. By implication, as outlined above, aliens exist. However, people do not want this sort of UFO or alien to exist - they imagine instead the many limbed monstrosities of science-fiction films, descending upon Earth in a multidunious glow of light and destruction. They want fascinating weirdos, little "Greys" comparable to ourselves and monsters before they can justify the existence of extraterrestrials. Given the depth of the Universe, given how it spans farther even than the imagination can, I think it's reasonable to assume that intelligence exists out there somewhere. So too do genuine spaceships, the monoliths that everybody imagines, I'm sure. However, it is vastly improbable that we shall ever encounter these aliens, or even their spaceships. Even if we did, the differences between our cultures, our anatomical structures, our languages, our attitudes towards other life and our reliance on different materials to live would make it impossible either for us to encounter each other, or to accept each other.

This, my friends, is why "S.E.T.I." is absolutely useless and based upon fundamentally flawed principles that are bizarrely unscientific. It's all well and good searching for something that might exist in the dark, but eventually if you place your hole in enough dark corners, someone or something is going to bite it off. I find it therefore quite alarming the number of people who are infatuated with aliens and UFOs. There's something out there, and it's damn scary! If UFOs are what some people imagine them to be, then we've already discovered, or rather we've been discovered by, a race superior to our own!
 
Just adding to the debate, would the finding of intelligence life change religion as we know it? I mkean the whole basis of religion is in the fact that God created earth and put life on it, the first few human beings and we all come from them.

Now suppose the aliens have different religious beliefs or no beliefs at all, will that affect the way we think about religion?
 
Indiafan said:
Now suppose the aliens have different religious beliefs or no beliefs at all, will that affect the way we think about religion?
How would that be different, from meeting another civilisation from across the Earth - who has different beliefs.

What would be interesting, is if the alien life have a belief system which is exactly the same as one of the religions on earth. Would that give that particular religion some more value?
 
Augustus said:
This, my friends, is why "S.E.T.I." is absolutely useless and based upon fundamentally flawed principles that are bizarrely unscientific.
That, sir, are words of wisdom. SETI is one of the biggest misinformation organisations out there.
 
Augustus said:
In theory, any planet can support life, they simply cannot harbour carbon-based lifeforms that rely on similar products as we do to survive. Microbiological remnants of life have been discovered on Mars, which immediately puts to bed any suggestion that life does not exist outside of our Earth.
Are you talking about the rock from Mars that was found in Antarctica in the 90s? Because if I'm not mistaken, wasn't that dismissed as the rock being contaminated with Earth bacteria.
 
I'm not aware that it was ever dismissed. The original articles still exist out there on the web and I cannot find any contradictory ones. I'm happy to admit my error though if I'm wrong. Here's an original link out-lining the supposed discovery, by the way, for those who are interested:

http://astrobio.net/news/modules.ph...e=article&sid=196&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Note that this is not definitive evidence - we're dealing with probability here. There's also an article on Wikipedia (never trust Wikipedia!) with a typically vague outline of events:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars
 
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Inswinging Yorker said:
are aliens jinns?

Technically we're aliens too because we were placed on the Earth by Allah (SWT) after we disgraced ourselves, according to the Quran Allah (SWT) made us viceregents on Earth.

So clearly the Earth already existed before our creation and we were sent to Earth, the Jinn are far older than we are and if we're aliens (to Earth) then there's no reason why the Jinn would not also be aliens.

Not to forget that in Islam the Jinn are described as travelling close to Heaven to eavesdrop so they clearly either have far superior technology or different physical attributes which allow them to do that.

It's quite possible that Jinns are aliens just like we are.
 
Is the statement the building blocks for life came from a rock on Mars scientifically verifiable?
 
Why we always have to bring and mix religion into every discussion. This is either a pure scientific or speculative discussion and religion should not be any part of it and I mean no religion.
If you believe in creation than it is possible that other species were created somewhere else either before us or after us and it is quite possible that some of those species were given a thousand times more brain than us and are capable of transporting them across vast distances of universe against all the laws of physics as we understand today.
On the other hand if you believe in evolution then it is statistically impossible to duplicate species as smart and capable as human just by accident and pure random selection.
 
Idris Gogen said:
Why we always have to bring and mix religion into every discussion. This is either a pure scientific or speculative discussion and religion should not be any part of it and I mean no religion.
If you believe in creation than it is possible that other species were created somewhere else either before us or after us and it is quite possible that some of those species were given a thousand times more brain than us and are capable of transporting them across vast distances of universe against all the laws of physics as we understand today.
On the other hand if you believe in evolution then it is statistically impossible to duplicate species as smart and capable as human just by accident and pure random selection.
Not really...

Maybe not very likely, but certainly not impossible.
 
The problem with religion has always been that it was created based on superstition and idiocy. Any discovery of aliens should encourage not only the evolution of mind but also the evolution of religion. Let's not forget that religion was not created by Allah/God (or Gods, or whatever it is that your religion believes in), the doctrines out-lined in various religious texts are not the views of the divine creator, or even facts as we have come to know them. The discovery of any alien beings should not dismay any believers, it should in fact encourage the changes that are very much needed within every religion around the world. Just because one element of what you believe is wrong, it doesn't mean that God doesn't exist! Nor does it mean that every element is wrong. If you believe, then you should also believe that God and Science can walk hand-in-hand.
 
Allah's universe is massive and full of magnificent secrets.

But 'let's no forget man is Allah's most magnificent creation in terms of intelligence - He said it himself so don't expect to find anything better than mankind in the universe. GOD only talked to man, this is the 2nd big bang that happened in the universe after the first one.
 
The Blazer said:
Not really...

Maybe not very likely, but certainly not impossible.

The odds of that would be more than one person hitting the lotto every week for 10 straight years
 
Idris Gogen said:
...If you believe in creation than it is possible that other species were created somewhere else either before us or after us and it is quite possible that some of those species were given a thousand times more brain than us and are capable of transporting them across vast distances of universe against all the laws of physics as we understand today.

On the other hand if you believe in evolution then it is statistically impossible to duplicate species as smart and capable as human just by accident and pure random selection.
this says maybe possible if religion based but if evolution based then not. The evolution theory is for Earth only. I am guessing if Aliens are coming here then they are probably have special skills which are above humans because humans can't go there. So Humans might be lower to them but earth evolution doesn't cover Jhimpali planet Aliens might look like :batman: and not :poodle
 
Idris Gogen said:
The odds of that would be more than one person hitting the lotto every week for 10 straight years
Really? From whence do you pluck these claims?
 
12thMan said:
this says maybe possible if religion based but if evolution based then not. The evolution theory is for Earth only. I am guessing if Aliens are coming here then they are probably have special skills which are above humans because humans can't go there. So Humans might be lower to them but earth evolution doesn't cover Jhimpali planet Aliens might look like :batman: and not :poodle

Who is that person in the "topi"?
 
Speaking of which...Has anyone read about the numerous sightings over London this month?
 
The Blazer said:
Speaking of which...Has anyone read about the numerous sightings over London this month?


No, not heard of it, maybe you can shed some light on this?
 
Who here believes?

Can we get a poll?
 
Aliens are definitely out there somewhere.. As for sightings, most of this crap has to be some classified projects from different governments.
I personally would love to see someone from different world b4 I die.
 
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Obviously I don't know for sure. But it does seem highly probable that there are other life forms out there. Hopefully I'll still be alive by the time we discover them :P
 
Stephen Hawking once said that it would be better if we found aliens rather than them finding us. For if they find us, they will obviously be technologically far more advanced and as such may want to exploit the earth's resources. #independenceday

I believe in aliens.
 
I like talking about this subject :).

You just need to realize the sheer size of the universe and the PEANUT SIZE of our planet, The Earth.

When you live on Earth it looks huge. All the countries, oceans, jungles, mountains etc. But then consider THAT THERE ARE OVER A TRILLION PLANETS IN THIS KNOWN UNIVERSE. Earth would be one of those, one of those planets in 10,000,000,000,000 and we may have even more planets in the universe. ITS QUITE ABSURD TO THINK ONLY ONE PLANET IN 10 TRILLION HAS LIFE ON IT.

To get an estimated size of the Earth in the universe, just get a A1 size paper and put a dot in it, LESS THAN HALF OF THAT WILL BE THE SIZE OF OUR PLANET and the whole page will be full of dots (other plants, solar systems and galaxies)

Then there might even be more universes, we may be living in a multiverse, ITS INCREDIBLE just thinking of the size of it and we cant even travel to the town on foot.
 
Also what there religion is as well? Or do they have a religion!

Cause doesn't the Quran say, all things must bow to Allah, so there must be a system of worship in these other worlds, and can it be Islam? I am not trying to be bias, but just thinking!

how can a post be so dumb as this??

Words fail me......

We doesnt even know abt their existence and you're talkin abt religion??
 
I think it is a bit arogant for us to assume that we are the only planet in this vast universe with life. I am sure there are millions of life forms out there but I doubt we will ever come into contact with them.

This.

The gulf between the stars is just too large. Voyager 2 is the fastest thing we ever launched, and she will not reach Proxima for another 60,000 years.
 
there is no reason why aliens cant exist.
and i really hope, if there is to be any contact, i am alive to witness it.
would be out of this world
 
Aliens and UFOs - can they be real?

Our nearest star, the Sun, has at least one habitable planet (Earth) circling it, with possibly life existing, or having existed in the past, on some others or their moons.

There are billions upon billions of stars in our galaxy The Milky Way, and even if only a tiny fraction of these stars have planets in the 'Goldilocks Zones', it follows that there must be hundreds of millions, if not billions, of such planets in our galaxy alone.

There are billions of galaxies in the known universe. Meaning potentially thousands of billions of planets circling stars in their 'Goldilocks Zones'.

Now if one were to accept that life may possibly be the result of evolution due to a particular set of conditions that sparked it into existence, and that there was even one billionth of a chance of similar conditions being repeated elsewhere, now or in the past, on any of those planets in the Goldilocks zones, that still leaves hundreds of millions of such planets with just the right conditions to spark life into existence.

On that basis the odds of there being life elsewhere in the universe must be hundreds of millions to one in favour. Meaning virtual certainty. And if so, the chances are that some of it could have come into existence millions of years before life appeared on earth.

Bearing in mind how fast mankind has evolved technologically just in the last few hundred years or so, then one cannot discount the possibility that some of those alien life forms, if they do exist, could be far more advanced than we can even imagine.

And if some them are more advanced, then just because we have not yet advanced enough technology to the point where we can traverse the distances between stars it does not mean that they haven't.

So all in all, if you believe in evolution, then you also have to believe in the probability, nay almost certainty, of the existence of alien life somewhere in the universe.

And even if you believe in creation and not evolution for the existence of life on Earth, you can't discount the possibility that if God created life here on Earth then what's to say God didn't do the same elsewhere?


Discuss
 
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There is certainly alien life but there wont ever be any contact with us humans.

There are creatures on earth which are created to go through extreme conditions namely radiation and stuff like that, conditions which never were or never will be on earth, if we know anything about nature it is that it doesnt do anything without a reason, so its possible that these insects have migrated to earth.

Secondly, if aliens were to contact us it would mean they are technologically far ahead from us humans, they would never be interested in a deteriorating planet like earth with animals like humans.

Evolution doesn't mean religion is false, similarly, even if we are cousins of chimps and fish it doesnt prove that God doesnt exist.

What we need to understand is the universe is in our blood, its a part of us, similarly there's another universe inside us, in stuff around us, those little atoms are planets and thats what string theory has been trying to prove, trying to bring the theory of the very big and very tiny into unification.

What we realize from that is we are inconsequential, we give eachother too much credit, consciousness is overrated, even a cat knows when its hungry and when its horny.

We try to answer the big question, why are we here? is there life outside? why is everything the way it is?

Ive come to the conclusion that humans are delusional.

Physicists say that time is relative, and we can never know the final answer, who made everything, the most profound thing scientists can do is prove the big bang and evolution, and ofcourse unify the general theory of relativity and quantum.

So basically what the biggest question in Physics is, did the chicken come first or the egg?
 
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Humans havent been to other planets genius :asif

See what I mean when I say humans are delusional?

Well I am speaking from the futuristic point of view. :dav

When we do reach Mars, we won't need little green men or grays. We alone would be enough to prove the existence of aliens. :wasim
 
Despite of what you hear in the media it is not possible for HUMANS to set foot on Mars for the next 50 years.

The best we can do is send rovers and that too will take around 10 years IF they start working on it now
 
im talking about the kind of rovers neil de grass tyson talks about, not the one they sent on the 90s
 
Despite of what you hear in the media it is not possible for HUMANS to set foot on Mars for the next 50 years.

The best we can do is send rovers and that too will take around 10 years IF they start working on it now

Isn't this little thing a Mars Rover ? :20:

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I am sure with that many odds life has evolved on other planets in other solar system but not the kind of life we see here on earth, specially evolution of intelligent species like humans, species that learn and think and invent things.
When some sort of life evolved because of right temperature environment and moister it does not mean that it will evolve into an intelligent life over time, if that was the case and dinosaurs were still living doesn't mean that in 200 million years they would have invented rockets or computers, they would have been still be just dinosaurs and if there was no catastrophe 200 million years ago that killed them all may be we would not have been here.
I agree with one of the above posts that if some day we can make to a planet in a different solar system we may find life but the only intelligent life will be us when and if we get there
 
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Ancient Aliens...you know history tv18's show. :70: theories like we humans gets trolled by alien imposters as Gods in religions. one of the episode says humans are perfected by aliens. aliens impregnated/interbred with humans.
with our cranial capacity, pathbreaking discoveries can not be made. it is aliens who assisted us.
besides, various countries like China, India, USA etc are working on reverse engineering "alien devices" ..I remember reading one of them was about levitation(for flight) overcoming earth's gravity.
this will be interesting:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...Nasas-Voyager-2-spacecraft-claims-expert.html
 
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Humans havent been to other planets genius :asif

See what I mean when I say humans are delusional?
Although the Moon is not technically a planet, the fact that man has already been to the Moon shows that it's just a matter of time.

Furthermore, whilst humans themselves have not yet been to other planets, man's creations have already landed on Mars and Venus, with more such missions planned for other planets and/or their moons. If there was life there already that could think, then to them these probes would be seen as belonging to us 'Aliens'.
Despite of what you hear in the media it is not possible for HUMANS to set foot on Mars for the next 50 years.

The best we can do is send rovers and that too will take around 10 years IF they start working on it now
Who's talking about 50 years? or even 100, or 1000 for that matter? The OP is about the possible existence of Alien life and whether or not, especially if they were millions of years ahead of us in their evolution, they had developed the ability to traverse the space between stars. And you're equating that to man going to other planets in the next 50 years?
 
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