When did things start going wrong between India and Bangladesh?

[Tekcirc]

After Bangladesh whitewashed us and beat India at home in 2015. The team and fans started getting really cocky they started to think they are the 2nd best team in Asia and have overtaken Pak as India's main rivals. Basically its Bangladeshi over exhuberance and cockyness

No team or its fans have ever chest thumped so much by achieving so little. England have their test legacy and a prime LOI team of late. Australia have been in imperial for decades. WI were giants of 70s-80s. India, SL and Pakistan have their World Cup wins. S Africa have always performed. but Bangladesh... ???

Bangladesh fans have been acting as if they have won the last 5 Cricket world Cups without losing a game. Every loss is a conspiracy against them, every loss a plan by rest of the world or just BCCI, to keep the mighty Bangladesh from running rampant in Cricketing world, winning tests by an innings, ODIS by 200+ run margins every game.

 

[Tekcirc]

2007 Wold Cup win against India was when this supposed "rivalry" began. However, BD are quite competitive in ODI's these days and are no pushovers. Some of their fans tend to overrate them but then so do Pakistanis i guess. In test cricket, there's no competition whatsoever. Bangladesh are still minnows in that format.

When Bangladesh actually wins an ODI series outside Mirpur, then lets rate them. Till then they are yet to prove! You are as likely to lose to Irish team at a neutral venue.

For a reality check, this "good" ODI team lost an ODI to Afghanistan at home, and recently lost the ODI series to England too. They had a lucky run at home and all that little success made them fuzzy.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

When Bangladesh actually wins an ODI series outside Mirpur, then lets rate them. Till then they are yet to prove! You are as likely to lose to Irish team at a neutral venue.

For a reality check, this "good" ODI team lost an ODI to Afghanistan at home, and recently lost the ODI series to England too. They had a lucky run at home and all that little success made them fuzzy.

They made the WC QF 2 years ago. That was no fluke. Like i said, on their day they have proved that they can beat any team atleast in ODI's. Yes they have to start winning away as well but i think they will start winning soon.

 

[Tekcirc]

They made the WC QF 2 years ago. That was no fluke. Like i said, on their day they have proved that they can beat any team atleast in ODI's. Yes they have to start winning away as well but i think they will start winning soon.

Zimbabwe managed super 6 in 1999, Kenya made it to SF of WC 2003. what happened. As for 2015 WC, they actually won just one game which was was not expected that was against England, while they survived against a team like Scotland who scored 318 against them.

Bangladesh at its peak has only managed to be what Zimbabwe was in 90s (The Flower bothers and Heath Streak etc)

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Zimbabwe managed super 6 in 1999, Kenya made it to SF of WC 2003. what happened. As for 2015 WC, they actually won just one game which was was not expected that was against England, while they survived against a team like Scotland who scored 318 against them.

Bangladesh at its peak has only managed to be what Zimbabwe was in 90s (The Flower bothers and Heath Streak etc)

Yes but Bangladesh will improve further unlike Zimbabwe because there is no political turmoil there unlike ZIM and also there is a lot of interest in cricket

 

[Tekcirc]

Yes but Bangladesh will improve further unlike Zimbabwe because there is no political turmoil there unlike ZIM and also there is a lot of interest in cricket

The word to note is "will", they have yet to find a stable standing enough to pose a challenge to teams. But the behaviour and attitude is as if they have been World Champions for eons!

Teams like SL, India, Pakistan clearly show that it takes time and actual achievements to find yourself as a respected and deserved challenger, but Bangladeshis think that its their right to be treated as a mighty team.

 

[Executioner]

No team or its fans have ever chest thumped so much by achieving so little. England have their test legacy and a prime LOI team of late. Australia have been in imperial for decades. WI were giants of 70s-80s. India, SL and Pakistan have their World Cup wins. S Africa have always performed. but Bangladesh... ???

Bangladesh fans have been acting as if they have won the last 5 Cricket world Cups without losing a game. Every loss is a conspiracy against them, every loss a plan by rest of the world or just BCCI, to keep the mighty Bangladesh from running rampant in Cricketing world, winning tests by an innings, ODIS by 200+ run margins every game.

You are basing that on what? Comments made by some people who have nothing better than to do than having to bark on facebook?

How about asking the educated public and not those meaningless internet warriors who have no job whatsoever.

The only ones who are bothered about the Bangladesh-India tension are the meaningless people who are on facebook, on both sides of the border. The cricketers, the boards, the players, the experts, the commentators, the sponsors don't give a damn about what random folks say on the comments section of a meme.

 

[Varun]

Yes but Bangladesh will improve further unlike Zimbabwe because there is no political turmoil there unlike ZIM and also there is a lot of interest in cricket

Give them some time, One day Bangladesh will rise, Bangladesh will be a force one day blah blah...how many times do we hear this?

 

[Tekcirc]

You are basing that on what? Comments made by some people who have nothing better than to do than having to bark on facebook?

How about asking the educated public and not those meaningless internet warriors who have no job whatsoever.

The only ones who are bothered about the Bangladesh-India tension are the meaningless people who are on facebook, on both sides of the border. The cricketers, the boards, the players, the experts, the commentators, the sponsors don't give a damn about what random folks say on the comments section of a meme.

Based on Bangladeshi people at the highest levels of cricket:

1. The ICC President from Bangladesh:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...ld-cup-snub/story-Q1i1CzSkEIivvgvcbUKUmM.html

or the Bangladesh PM:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...mpires-Bangladesh-PM/articleshow/46644872.cms

or the present Captain of the Team:
2. http://www.firstpost.com/sports/mus...feat-west-indies-renders-apology-2706930.html


When your top most players and administrators are nuts, the masses will obviously be nuttier.

 

[SunRay]

People love to talk about 20 years for first win, while simply skipping the part that India didnot play a test game between 1936 and 1946 ( 10 years) .

Even by that margin India took 25 tests for first win while the mighty Bangla tigers took 30+ and that too against the mighty mighty Zimbabwe.

India still had far less number of losses despite playing only the best teams of its time. While Bangladesh could not even manage wins against a depleted Zimbabwe.

India had won only 35 odd tests in 196 tests in their first 50 years of test cricket. I don't think it's not a record to be proud of, isn't it.


Let Bangla play for 50 odd years or 200 test matches and I m pretty sure they will easily beat india's staggering 35 test victory by then.


Besides, keep in mind that even after playing tests years after years in foreign countries they r still a dud outside Asia and hardly wins any tests whenever they stepped outside Asia.

 

[SunRay]

Give them some time, One day Bangladesh will rise, Bangladesh will be a force one day blah blah...how many times do we hear this?

They have already kicked India out of a world cup and again thrashed them in an odi series just a year back, didn't they?

 

[SunRay]

and you wonder why other countries hate Bangladeshi fans!! This post is the exact example of brain dead thinking of Bangla fans.

and to top it all up, you won't even get it, why and how ridiculous the post coming from a Bangladeshi is.rby

I know it's difficult to digest hard truth for a fan like u.

U were the one who's boasting india's rich cricketing history and trying to criticize Bangla's slow progress in test cricket when the actual truth is far from it.


It shouldn't be difficult for any cricket fan whether he's Indian, Bangladeshi or Pakistani to accept the fact that Bangla is one of the very few teams who have improved leaps and bounds in both form of cricket in a very short period of time especially if u consider the number of years some of the established test teams took to reach the position they r currently in.

 

[Pollack]

India had won only 35 odd tests in 196 tests in their first 50 years of test cricket. I don't think it's not a record to be proud of, isn't it.


Let Bangla play for 50 odd years or 200 test matches and I m pretty sure they will easily beat india's staggering 35 test victory by then.


Besides, keep in mind that even after playing tests years after years in foreign countries they r still a dud outside Asia and hardly wins any tests whenever they stepped outside Asia.

Irrespective of which teams they beat in those 35?
You are legend sir.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Give them some time, One day Bangladesh will rise, Bangladesh will be a force one day blah blah...how many times do we hear this?

Yeah but are we right in rating the Bangladesh cricket team based on a few online trolls/warriors? They have made significant improvements in the last couple of years.

 

[Tekcirc]

I know it's difficult to digest hard truth for a fan like u.

U were the one who's boasting india's rich cricketing history and trying to criticize Bangla's slow progress in test cricket when the actual truth is far from it.


It shouldn't be difficult for any cricket fan whether he's Indian, Bangladeshi or Pakistani to accept the fact that Bangla is one of the very few teams who have improved leaps and bounds in both form of cricket in a very short period of time especially if u consider the number of years some of the established test teams took to reach the position they r currently in.

Match by match progress, Bangladesh is like 50% of what India achieved in the not so glorious past which included 15 years of colonial times.

If you can still have the audacity to laugh at anyone else' results, People are simply going to call you what you actually sound like : a *****, a naive simpleton.

Zimbabwe has a better progress record than Bangladesh. The only thing Bangladesh is on track is to overtake all teams is Loss rate. No one can match you guys, even the India of 30s, 40s or 50s.

Your progress has been absolutely abysmal and people appreciate the progress still. But its the utter foolhardy attempts by the idiots who try to mock already mature teams of the world. One win out 100 against a major team and going on as if you are the World Champions!

Compare match by match status of Bangladesh and India.Warning for your fragile mind, truth will hurt.

 

[Statsman]

Indian fans yet again belittling Bangladesh and its achievements. You're forgetting how a young Khaled Masud from Rajshahi defeated the great Australian side in only their third World Cup to lift the esteemed trophy. What did India do in the first few world cups? I guess India's greatest achievement must be a fluke win against a strong opposition which went on to be their all time high for decades.

 

[Tekcirc]

Yeah but are we right in rating the Bangladesh cricket team based on a few online trolls/warriors? They have made significant improvements in the last couple of years.

No team has been so disliked and hated because of their utterly disgusting attitude. And plz lets dispense with the attempts to be polite here, its not just a few online trolls. You have the Captain of the side, the PM, the ex head of ICC from Bangladesh shouting conspiracy nonsense.

Neutrals around the world actually cheer for the rise of Afghanistan and the Irish. Would love to see revival of Zim and Kenya. Enjoyed Bangladesh rising too, but the **** during 2015 WC was way too much to take.

We have actual rivalry between India and Pakistan, we don't go blaming and looking for conspiracies all the time.

Already we have a genius questioning the review going in India's favor.
In a match between Pakistan and Bangladesh, Indians are more likely to cheer for Pakistan now. Pakistan are our rivals but we do have respect for each other as opponents. That respect is earned by performing on an actual cricket ground.

 

[SunRay]

Match by match progress, Bangladesh is like 50% of what India achieved in the not so glorious past which included 15 years of colonial times.

If you can still have the audacity to laugh at anyone else' results, People are simply going to call you what you actually sound like : a *****, a naive simpleton.

Zimbabwe has a better progress record than Bangladesh. The only thing Bangladesh is on track is to overtake all teams is Loss rate. No one can match you guys, even the India of 30s, 40s or 50s.

Your progress has been absolutely abysmal and people appreciate the progress still. But its the utter foolhardy attempts by the idiots who try to mock already mature teams of the world. One win out 100 against a major team and going on as if you are the World Champions!

Compare match by match status of Bangladesh and India.Warning for your fragile mind, truth will hurt.

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Looks like the bitter truth about india's miserable test record in their first few decades have already ruffled ur feathers. Oh, I'm so sorry for hurting you. I hope u r still mentally stable


I can understand how how hard it was for u. I guess out of sheer desperation u've now brought up Zimbabwe in the picture. But u r not wrong though. Perhaps Even Zimbabwe had better record In their first few years of test history and achieved more than India did In their first few decades

Again a reminder, 20 long years for the first ever test win, lol.

 

[Statsman]

????? When did that happen? Are you high?

You should read about Bangladesh's glorious cricketing past. There is a reason why Australia doesn't tour them nor invites them to their country.

 

[Zak_Fan]

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Looks like the bitter truth about india's miserable test record in their first few decades have already ruffled ur feathers. Oh, I'm so sorry for hurting you. I hope u r still mentally stable


I can understand how how hard it was for u. I guess out of sheer desperation u've now brought up Zimbabwe in the picture. But u r not wrong though. Perhaps Even Zimbabwe had better record In their first few years of test history and achieved more than India did In their first few decades

Again a reminder, 20 long years for the first ever test win, lol.

India gained Independence in 1947, won it's first Test in 1952.

Bangladesh on the other hand has been rubbish for the last 17 years, which must be the worst record for a free nation. Usually, I would be the first one to encourage minnows, but the number of cocky and deluded Bangladeshi fans like you make it so hard.

 

[Tekcirc]

I know it's difficult to digest hard truth for a fan like u.

U were the one who's boasting india's rich cricketing history and trying to criticize Bangla's slow progress in test cricket when the actual truth is far from it.


It shouldn't be difficult for any cricket fan whether he's Indian, Bangladeshi or Pakistani to accept the fact that Bangla is one of the very few teams who have improved leaps and bounds in both form of cricket in a very short period of time especially if u consider the number of years some of the established test teams took to reach the position they r currently in.

Here are facts about how Superior Bangladesh cricket is in terms of progress with respect to old Indian cricket:

1. Bangladesh has done in less than 17 years what took India more than 50 years.

2. Bangladesh managed 74 losses in a record 98 games, while it took India a whopping number of close to 198 games and 50 years.

3. In ODIs, Bangladesh managed 103 losses in 115 games (2 NR, 10 wins), While India took a whopping 194 games to achieve that number.

There is simply no contest here, India was never as good as Bangladesh, not even close and will never be, as far as losing is considered. I doubt any other team will be able to match that in history.

 

[SunRay]

India gained Independence in 1947, won it's first Test in 1952.

Bangladesh on the other hand has been rubbish for the last 17 years, which must be the worst record for a free nation. Usually, I would be the first one to encourage minnows, but the number of cocky and deluded Bangladeshi fans like you make it so hard.

Seventeen years isn't that long time and they have improved leaps and bounds in these years in test cricket.


Drawn series against the SA , NZ and England at home r proofs of their improvement in test cricket.


Besides they have already thrashed West indies in West indies and won their first ever away test series. Do u know know how long did it take for India to win their first ever test series outside home, hmm?


Yup, 40 years!!! India have won their first ever away series after freakin fortyyyyyyy long years whereas Bangla achieved the same goal in one third of the time. They r easily the fastest improving side in the world.

 

[jagatk]

Seventeen years isn't that long time and they have improved leaps and bounds in these years in test cricket.


Drawn series against the SA , NZ and England at home r proofs of their improvement in test cricket.


Besides they have already thrashed West indies in West indies and won their first ever away test series. Do u know know how long did it take for India to win their first ever test series outside home, hmm?


Yup, 40 years!!! India have won their first ever away series after freakin fortyyyyyyy long years whereas Bangla achieved the same goal in one third of the time. They r easily the fastest improving side in the world.

Since you love records so much, here's one for you, india won the third world cup it participated in, bangladesh played their 5th in 2015, best finish "lost in QF", fastest improving side indeed. When one checks world cup records, of all test playing nations, you have the worst record in world cup with everyone else having finished at better position than you in mostly less than 5 attempts you needed to finish top 8.

 

[Tekcirc]

Here are facts about how Superior Bangladesh cricket is in terms of progress with respect to old Indian cricket:

1. Bangladesh has done in less than 17 years what took India more than 50 years.

2. Bangladesh managed 74 losses in a record 98 games, while it took India a whopping number of close to 198 games and 50 years.

3. In ODIs, Bangladesh managed 103 losses in 115 games (2 NR, 10 wins), While India took a whopping 194 games to achieve that number.

There is simply no contest here, India was never as good as Bangladesh, not even close and will never be, as far as losing is considered. I doubt any other team will be able to match that in history.

Since you love records so much, here's one for you, india won the third world cup it participated in, bangladesh played their 5th in 2015, best finish "lost in QF", fastest improving side indeed. When one checks world cup records, of all test playing nations, you have the worst record in world cup with everyone else having finished at better position than you in mostly less than 5 attempts you needed to finish top 8.

They did finish 7th in 2007 WC but unfortunately that's when Bangladeshi fans and players lost touch with reality!

 

[jagatk]

They did finish 7th in 2007 WC but unfortunately that's when Bangladeshi fans and players lost touch with reality!

Completely forgot about that, tried to edit but the damn 2 minute rule, have to say those are some nice stats for our bangladeshi friend to consider.

 

[Tekcirc]

Completely forgot about that, tried to edit but the damn 2 minute rule, have to say those are some nice stats for our bangladeshi friend to consider.

I forgot to add that Zimbabwe is still stuck at 64 losses despite playing 3 more games than Bangladesh. They will hard time to catch upto that number 74 which Bangladesh holds!

 

[bleaf27]

I don't usually post much but the lack of common sense in this post forced me to.

Bangladesh fans = You guys are delusional to the highest level , There are numbers here being shown regarding history of Indian Cricket and their performance is so irrelevant I doubt the intelligence of some posters.

I'll give you an example - Mercedes made it's first car in 1886 ......... They designed their first AWD in 1985 - Nearly 100 years ...... Hyundai started making cars in 1980's and now have AWD in their cars in 30-40 years , Would you say Hyundai is better than Mercedes ?
When India started playing, they were at the bottom of the ladder - they pioneered the sport away from the British and in the subcontinent - Playing in an era dominated by countries like England , Australia - India built itself strong enough that today countries like Bangladesh call ICC = BCCI , I don't think there can be a better compliment than that , they started from the bottom all the way to the top.
Bangladesh started cricket in a era where the foundation for Minnows were laid , their was proper coaching , analytics , bowling coach/fielding coach , TV replays , statistics at your disposal . Do not compare the journey's .....you look stupid.

 

[Abdullah719]

Felt good when Bangladesh fans recited ‘Mauka Mauka’: Nasir Hossain recalls the famous series win against India

The rivalry between teams and their fans is not an alien term. Many times even broadcasters play a crucial role to add fuel to the excitement of fans by coming up with some creative and funny commercials. One such advertisement was the famous ‘Mauka Mauka’ which came in the 2015 World Cup.

It was basically directed towards Pakistan and Bangladesh who kept on losing against India at ICC events. Indian fans used to tease other cricket nation’s followers by constantly chanting the catchy line ‘Mauka Mauka’. However, contrary to Indian fans, the advertisement infuriated fans of many other teams.

When during the 2015 mega event India walloped Bangladesh by 109 runs in the second quarter-final, the ‘Mauka Mauka’ chant started doing rounds in no time. However, Bangladesh retaliated the loss and sealed the following ODI series by a 2-1 margin. After which the Bangladeshi supporters gave it back by chanting the same catchy line when the ‘Men in Blue’ was walking towards the dressing room.

Now after many years since the famous victory, Bangladesh’s Nasir Hossain, in a Facebook live session with Cricfrenzy, recalled how he enjoyed the moment. He stated that when Bangladeshi fans chanted ‘Mauka Mauka’, he felt outstanding.

“I felt very good about that, when the whole India team was going towards the dressing room [ with their head lowered down] the whole gallery was chanting ‘mauka mauka’,” said Nasir.

The 28-year-old reminisced the moment when he grabbed the esteemed wicket of India superstar Virat Kohli. He labelled Kohli’s dismissal as the turning point of the match. However, Nasir also clarified that he had no hard feelings against the Indian talisman as he had played against Kohli at the Under-19 level.

Nasir in the chat spoke about current Kohli’s aggressiveness on the field. He referred to the episode when he trapped the current Indian skipper in front and the umpire raised his finger to show the gates of the pavilion to Kohli. After the wicket, a few stares were exchanged between the two.


“I’ve played against Kohli in the Under-19, and he is like this from that time. We try to be very aggressive on the field that might have happened on that day,” added Nasir.

“I don’t have any hard feelings against him. I didn’t sledge him or anything, but I was indeed delighted to get his wicket. Because we were in need of his wicket very much,” the Rangpur-born added further.

https://crickettimes.com/2020/05/fe...-recalls-the-famous-series-win-against-india/

 

[Asifnow]

I still remember the pro Pakistan Bangladesh fans during the Asia Cup a few years ago....things got so bad Bibi banned Pakistan flags from the stadiums lol