When will Pakistan cricket finally move on from Shoaib Malik and Mohammad Hafeez?

[hashimafzal]

This is a new concept started by the media to back Pakistan Cricket. "The best players are playing." I've heard Rashid Latif, Shoaib Akhtar, and Wasim Akram say this.

The best players are 100% not playing. But this is what you say when you know nothing about domestic cricket and don't care enough to do your homework.

So then what is Misbah doing as a selector? Why would he not field his best XI?

 

[andy0204]

Malik and Hafeez will play till 2030 .

 

[hashimafzal]

This is a new concept started by the media to back Pakistan Cricket. "The best players are playing." I've heard Rashid Latif, Shoaib Akhtar, and Wasim Akram say this.

The best players are 100% not playing. But this is what you say when you know nothing about domestic cricket and don't care enough to do your homework.

I didn't do my HW. But Hafeez still came out and showed why he's still one of the best t20/limited overs batsman in the country.

 

[shamaan]

Malik and Hafeez will play till 2030 ��.

R u sure not 2050

 

[shamaan]

This is a new concept started by the media to back Pakistan Cricket. "The best players are playing." I've heard Rashid Latif, Shoaib Akhtar, and Wasim Akram say this.

The best players are 100% not playing. But this is what you say when you know nothing about domestic cricket and don't care enough to do your homework.

I think they were being sarcastic

 

[Sheraz]

Just fed up and depressed with this team! Who are the youngsters meant to be immitating? Malik and hafeez? Thats like saying nasser hussain and atherton?! These guys are killing our cricket. Full stop!

 

[shamaan]

Just fed up and depressed with this team! Who are the youngsters meant to be immitating? Malik and hafeez? Thats like saying nasser hussain and atherton?! These guys are killing our cricket. Full stop!

Even my dad said why you watching these jokes he laughed even harder when he knew malik and hafeez playing

 

[Sheraz]

This thread was created in 2016. So I suspect the answer is never. I suppose this thread has similar longevity to our goat’s. Misbah as coach was the final straw to ensure they play on well into there 40’s. Im still expecting to see one of them come back as captain. Were trying there best the other day

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Im afraid Hafeez might return as skipper for LOIs after all this drama.

 

[Kroll]

Even my dad said why you watching these jokes he laughed even harder when he knew malik and hafeez playing

Even my dad who doesn't really follow the cricket as much I do said are these guys really still playing? Kamaal hai!

 

[shamaan]

Even my dad who doesn't really follow the cricket as much I do said are these guys really still playing? Kamaal hai!

Ygm lol

 

[Firebat]

Haider and Sarfaraz both come in, but at the expense of Rizwan, meaning Malik and Hafeez once again keep their place.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Need to move on from seniors and start trusting our youth to produce results, these seniors in particular have deprived youngsters of opportunities time and time again.

 

[shamaan]

Need to move on from seniors and start trusting our youth to produce results, these seniors in particular have deprived youngsters of opportunities time and time again.

Depends wich youngsters?

 

[dravidthewall]

2030 may be

 

[Kaddy]

After this world cup for sure.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Depends wich youngsters?

Well you tell me what did Nawaz do wrong in the National T20? What did Ifti do wrong? What did Haider do wrong, to not get one game??????

Malik and Hafeez have been the biggest cause for our loss in the past, it's time to move on. Sick of coming in second best cause of these jokers.

 

[shamaan]

Well you tell me what did Nawaz do wrong in the National T20? What did Ifti do wrong? What did Haider do wrong, to not get one game??????

Malik and Hafeez have been the biggest cause for our loss in the past, it's time to move on. Sick of coming in second best cause of these jokers.

Since when was iftikhar a youngster lol.

 

[Zaz]

Since when was iftikhar a youngster lol.

The point is why are domestic talent and performers continually overlooked for the likes of hafeez and malik who for 20 years have been perennial failures in world cups and major tournaments

Didnt we see enough of their "performances" in the 2019 world cup that they are back again to rinse and repeat at the expense of those truly deserving.

 

[Varun]

After this world cup for sure.

There is another WT20 coming up in under a year.

Expect to see statements by the duo announcing their 'intent' to remain in the reckoning for that one.

 

[Zaz]

There is another WT20 coming up in under a year.

Expect to see statements by the duo announcing their 'intent' to remain in the reckoning for that one.

Well why wouldnt they want to keep getting free pay days?

Its the management to be blamed here for not making and sticking to their decisons They keep back tracking and picking these 40 yr olds when they have zero performances and should be nowhere near the team

 

[Amjid Javed]

These two players have been the symbol of mediocrity in Pakistan's white ball cricket teams for last 15 years. Continually picking such mediocre bits and pieces players is main reason on.the whole why pakistan has been seen as a low level LOI and also why team has had limited success winning LOI ICC tournaments

 

[Smbhayi]

Hopefully after 2023 wc ..

 

[Kaddy]

There is another WT20 coming up in under a year.

Expect to see statements by the duo announcing their 'intent' to remain in the reckoning for that one.

I think next world cup is in Australia. So, Shoaib Malik's chances are very low as playing him in Australia would literally mean playing with 10 players and a specialist fielder. Even Malik would be aware of that.

Hafeez's purple patch is already over. I don't see him in Pakistan team either.

But I have a feeling, Wahab Riaz may come back for next world cup to play his last tournament.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Hopefully this tournament is the final one of there careers. They have had ungodly amount of opportunities to make solid careers for themselves and have often failed more than passed.

 

[shamaan]

The point is why are domestic talent and performers continually overlooked for the likes of hafeez and malik who for 20 years have been perennial failures in world cups and major tournaments

Didnt we see enough of their "performances" in the 2019 world cup that they are back again to rinse and repeat at the expense of those truly deserving.

Hafeez gives you bowling options and malik is a good player of spin. if it was in SENA malik wouldn't have been there.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

The point is why are domestic talent and performers continually overlooked for the likes of hafeez and malik who for 20 years have been perennial failures in world cups and major tournaments

Didnt we see enough of their "performances" in the 2019 world cup that they are back again to rinse and repeat at the expense of those truly deserving.

thanks bro, that's exactly the point i wanted to make. Nicely put bro.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Hafeez gives you bowling options malik is a good player of spin.if it was in SENA malik wouldn't have been thier

Hafeez you have to give some benefit of the doubt because of his form he had in 2020 which was next to brilliant and plus his bowling form of late is exactly what is desired in these conditions. For this Hafeez is an ideal no. 4/5 batsman in your line up.

However, Malik on the other hand is the same type of player yes his batting form has been fine but the number he is coming in at requires a person to play a pinch hitter/cameo role i.e. 6, which is something Malik can't do given he's an anchor not a back end of an innings hitter.

 

[shamaan]

Hafeez you have to give some benefit of the doubt because of his form he had in 2020 which was next to brilliant and plus his bowling form of late is exactly what is desired in these conditions. For this Hafeez is an ideal no. 4/5 batsman in your line up.

However, Malik on the other hand is the same type of player yes his batting form has been fine but the number he is coming in at requires a person to play a pinch hitter/cameo role i.e. 6, which is something Malik can't do given he's an anchor not a back end of an innings hitter.

I agree that's why I would bat malik at 4 and hafeez at 5.anways what was you saying about Shaheen

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I agree that's why I would bat malik at 4 and hafeez at 5.anways what was you saying about Shaheen

I said nothing about Shaheen lol. Very impressive bowling, however the one thing that was the difference was Rauf's death bowling giving India absolutely nothing.

Just wasn't happen with the Shaheen overthrow, otherwise hats off to him he put in a hell of a performance. The nipped in delivery to KL Rahul was similar to the one he bowled to Kraigg Brathwaite in the recent test series.

 

[shamaan]

I said nothing about Shaheen lol. Very impressive bowling, however the one thing that was the difference was Rauf's death bowling giving India absolutely nothing.

Just wasn't happen with the Shaheen overthrow, otherwise hats off to him he put in a hell of a performance. The nipped in delivery to KL Rahul was similar to the one he bowled to Kraigg Brathwaite in the recent test series.

Am pretty sure u said we can stil without him in one of your threads lol.no the difference was Shaheen opening spell however Rauf bowled excellently.

 

[realitygaf]

Imad Wasim and Hafeez are both in form with ball and out of form with the bat. Something has to give

Should Pakistan sacrifice one of them and get in a specialist bowler or batsman who is in form . the risk is that if either one of them have a bad day with the ball while both are out of form with the bat, the team risks losing

 

[Barragan]

I liked his intent today.

He wanted Rizwan to bat through the innings, rather than eating up balls by himself and putting pressure on Rizwan.

A selfless innings today and unfortunate, that it was a wonderful catch.

Well done to him today for trying.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Am pretty sure u said we can stil without him in one of your threads lol.no the difference was Shaheen opening spell however Rauf bowled excellently.

Well eating humble pie now but i did later analyse his stats in UAE and he's got a good SR and Ave there so i took it back bhai.

The hunger from these guys has been unreal.

 

[WC-Passion]

Hafeez got a wicket and got kinda unlucky with that shot which was only a bad idea in hindsight because the fielding was some of the best i've ever seen, he did start his innings giving some much needed boundaries.

IW made some weird decisions with the bat it had to be said, even if his bowling was solid overall, so hopefully he can turn it around. I think both should be given a few more games in the group stages.

 

[mesmerizer85]

I think Haider Ali and Rohail Nazir can be polished for the middle order post T20WC and hopefully after Malik/Hafeez Retire..

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

Good Performance by Shoaib Malik today, but I'm worried that this single good performance (after more than 5 years of failure), will mean he will keep his spot for another year...

It will be perfect if Hafeez and Malik just retire after this world cup. We have to move on from these two.

 

[the Great Khan]

Need to move on from these two. We need fresh blood in this format. Hopefully both will retire after winning the cup but its time to move on from them.

 

[shamaan]

Well eating humble pie now but i did later analyse his stats in UAE and he's got a good SR and Ave there so i took it back bhai.

The hunger from these guys has been unreal.

Good to see you taking your words back.its definitely very encouraging to see shaheen Rauf Bend thier backs to get good results.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Shoib and Hafeez will retire from international cricket after the t20 cup.They may continue to play franchise cricket for few more years.Who knows?

 

[Third Man]

It'll be great if they have the sense to retire after the world cup. And if we manage to win it, it'll be a fantastic note to hang up the boots on. A win-win situation all around.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Good to see you taking your words back.its definitely very encouraging to see shaheen Rauf Bend thier backs to get good results.

I don't know what Rauf has been eating but his pace is pure fire. Reminds me of Mitchell Johnson during that Ashes series at home in which he railroaded England.

Today's game though has me nervous.

 

[shamaan]

I don't know what Rauf has been eating but his pace is pure fire. Reminds me of Mitchell Johnson during that Ashes series at home in which he railroaded England.

Today's game though has me nervous.

He starting to use his head more and changing up his pace.I always thought Afganistan would be a threat with the 2 world class spinners

 

[Bullet Drive]

Will they retire after this WT20?

 

[Duckworth Lewis]

What's worrying is that Shoaib Malik was timing Rashid Khan even better than Babar.

 

[Jabo]

Post Wt20 both should retire

if neither don't, only 1 of 2 should be in the side, they are both the same with the bat, sometimes do a good innings, other times they fail.

but post wt20 no need for both

 

[Joseph Gomes]

They are doing well for their age

 

[shujaatraza]

Malik and Hafeez in the field both save at least 10 runs per innings which Khushdil, Sohaib, Azam and Sharjeel cannot.

 

[Kroll]

What's worrying is that Shoaib Malik was timing Rashid Khan even better than Babar.

Shoaib is a noted spin basher, don't think its much of a surprise and Babar's not the only top class batsman to struggle against Rashid.