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According to the following formats which Asian team would you rate as ‘Superior’ during the Home & Away tours?

Home Tour:
ODI -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh
Test -> (1st) India, (2nd) Sri Lanka, (3rd) Pakistan
T20 -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh

Away Tour:
ODI -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh
Test -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Sri Lanka
T20 -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh

Discuss.....
 
India are the best Asian team currently in all formats. But that doesn't mean much because the bar is too low.

However, it is unfortunate that current Indian side aren't playing up to their potential yet.

You have a team which can become the best side in the world for next 3 years by fair margin but we dont want to look ourselves beyond mediocrity and hence will continue to lose away tours even though the side has most players currently at its peak.

India even though they have the side, they won't be able to match even the SA of 2008-2014 let alone matching the Aussies of 2000s or Windies of 70s thanks to the mediocrity surrounded by the team management.
 
Mighty Bangladesh...
Not only in Asia but Away also...
Brilliant team with swashbuckling youngsters in the offing
 
Has to be India.

Pak is still struggling to win a game against NZ. BD are a good team at home and thats about it.
 
Some posters has chip on the shoulders. Bangladesh is improving team. No need to pick on bd. On topic, has to be india. There is so much gap between india and other Asian teams
 
India are the best out of a sorry lot at the moment. Historically, it has always been Pakistan and it is not even close.
 
babajee said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] would say India.
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It was the worst day on that posters life when India didn't win the Champion's Trophy and that too against Pakistan of all people. Went into sadma because of it.
 
India has been the best asian team in all formats for close to two decades now.. look up the records.. SriLanka have been the second best team in tests and Pakistan in ODI and T20Is.. The lead is not even marginal.. India have also won all world tournaments during that period and held number one position for a considerable duration. The question is not even up for debate. If any other asian teams win against India it is more of an upset and winning team goes to euphoria like it was witnessed by Pakistan team recently

If you just consider this decade India is ahead of all other sides and way ahead of its Asian peers. Despite SriLanka's horror run last year they are pretty close to Pakistan but both Lag India way behind..

This doesn't mean India won't lose matches.. They will lose plenty. But India over a period will consistently win more matches than they lose and that is all that matters
 
India is probably the best but there overseas performances aren't anything to do banghra over.
 
India will always be the superior to fellow Asian sides overall (barring transitional years). They have a good system, infrastructure and a well run board in general. We haven't even discussed the revenues which get invested at grassroots levels. They are currently developing a fast bowling culture, and have been for a while.
Everything is starting to come together in that regard as well (just look at their current seam bowlers in the current tour to SA all clocking 140kph regularly and their u19's).

They are leaving fellow Asian sides for dead. They've always had superior batsman, spin bowlers have been on par. I shudder to think what will happen should they unleash quality fast bowlers consistently.
 
you already know that it's India, whats the point of even asking. Whats a more interesting question is who is the second best?
 
Currently India is by far the best test and odi team from Asia. They r miles ahead of teams like bangladesh, Pakistan and SL in every format.


As for the second spot, i think Bangladesh is the second best team in limited overs cricket followed by Pakistan and srilanka. In test cricket, PAK, BD and SL r almost of similar quality.
 
RainMan_ said:
Currently India is by far the best test and odi team from Asia. They r miles ahead of teams like bangladesh, Pakistan and SL in every format.


As for the second spot, i think Bangladesh is the second best team in limited overs cricket followed by Pakistan and srilanka. In test cricket, PAK, BD and SL r almost of similar quality.
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Pakistan is the second best team in LOIs by quite a margin as well. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka will not be able to beat them, since their soft bowling attacks are tailor-made for our ****** batsmen.
 
Bangladesh at the moment. Especially at home conditions. Closely followed by India.

(Historically the best Asian side is Pakistan and still my second favorite team)
 
Usman Chadda said:
Pakistan is the second best team in LOIs by quite a margin as well. Bangladesh and Sri Lanka will not be able to beat them, since their soft bowling attacks are tailor-made for our ****** batsmen.
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I disagree. Not that I have high hopes for our trundlers, but I still think pak batters will struggle to score against our bowling attack. Even williamson was looking quite dangerous against pak with his gentle off break.


At home Bangladesh will easily beat both pak and SL if we take current form of all the teams under consideration. Not so sure what will happen if the matches r played on UAE pitches.
 
RainMan_ said:
I disagree. Not that I have high hopes for our trundlers, but I still think pak batters will struggle to score against our bowling attack. Even williamson was looking quite dangerous against pak with his gentle off break.


At home Bangladesh will easily beat both pak and SL if we take current form of all the teams under consideration. Not so sure what will happen if the matches r played on UAE pitches.
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Pakistani batsmen are struggling with the pace and bounce. Even India would struggle to win matches in NZ right now to be honest. Pakistan literally smashed Sri Lanka in UAE recently and they would do the same to Bangladesh wherever they play. There is a world of difference between the bowling attacks of top 6 teams and Bangladesh/Sri Lanka.

Note: The last time Pakistan and Bangladesh faced off, Bangladesh got steam-rolled by a Pakistan side ridden with politics and instability. The likes of Hafeez and Malik become world-class batsmen infront of trundler brigades on Asian pitches.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Pakistani batsmen are struggling with the pace and bounce. Even India would struggle to win matches in NZ right now to be honest. Pakistan literally smashed Sri Lanka in UAE recently and they would do the same to Bangladesh wherever they play. There is a world of difference between the bowling attacks of top 6 teams and Bangladesh/Sri Lanka.

Note: The last time Pakistan and Bangladesh faced off, Bangladesh got steam-rolled by a Pakistan side ridden with politics and instability. The likes of Hafeez and Malik become world-class batsmen infront of trundler brigades on Asian pitches.
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If u wanna ignore the reality then I've nothing to say. Pak have won the CT, it's true. But it's also true that they have lost successive odi series against all the major sides that have toured UAE in last 2/3 years.

Compared to that, Bangladesh have been quite dominant at home in last 2/3 years. Our playstyle may not be suited for placid odi wickets of England and Australia. But when it comes to playing odi on slow and low subcontinental wicket there aren't many teams that can outplay them us these wickets.

We've whitewashed teams when we weren't nowhere near as good as we r now. Barring India, I don't think any team has the strength to beat us on our own slow and low mirpur types wicket.

I believe, the last time Bangladesh and Pakistan faced off in a odi match in Asia, Pakistan got beaten comprehensively. The match u were referring to in ur post was an t20, right? We are a mediocre t20 side.
 
RainMan_ said:
If u wanna ignore the reality then I've nothing to say. Pak have won the CT, it's true. But it's also true that they have lost successive odi series against all the major sides that have toured UAE in last 2/3 years.

Compared to that, Bangladesh have been quite dominant at home in last 2/3 years. Our playstyle may not be suited for placid odi wickets of England and Australia. But when it comes to playing odi on slow and low subcontinental wicket there aren't many teams that can outplay them us these wickets.

We've whitewashed teams when we weren't nowhere near as good as we r now. Barring India, I don't think any team has the strength to beat us on our own slow and low mirpur types wicket.

I believe, the last time Bangladesh and Pakistan faced off in a odi match in Asia, Pakistan got beaten comprehensively. The match u were referring to in ur post was an t20, right? We are a mediocre t20 side.
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The reality is Bangladesh stand no chance against this Pakistan side. They are on a similar level to Sri Lanka, who were swept aside recently. Your batting is alright but Pakistan's bowling attack negates that. Your bowling is one of the worst of a full member side, and the likes of Hafeez and Malik suddenly wake up when faced with such bowling attacks. Let's see what happens when the two sides meet.
 
pakistani pride said:
This.
Bangladesh of course.

Just look at their trophy cabinet.
They are the best in the world.
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Plus they're List A and Domestic tourneys will leave Shield Cricket and the County Scene in the dust, It's also rumored that Gully Mohalla Matches in Dhaka are more competitive than Ranji and QeA combined.

There players are just out of this world [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] can expand further as I believe he once faced a Bangladeshi Fast bowler in the nets, had to give up cricket due to sheer fright and he now actively discourages people from playing cricket. Bta Issay Larkay !!
 
Usman Chadda said:
The reality is Bangladesh stand no chance against this Pakistan side. They are on a similar level to Sri Lanka, who were swept aside recently. Your batting is alright but Pakistan's bowling attack negates that. Your bowling is one of the worst of a full member side, and the likes of Hafeez and Malik suddenly wake up when faced with such bowling attacks. Let's see what happens when the two sides meet.
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Do you think BD is playing in 2007 with 50 something rating point? BD almost doubled their rating points since those times.
 
BD bowling is weak, but pakistani batsman are still sadly not good enough. so pakistan beating BD in BD will be tough. On other hand if pakistan gets 2 early wicket, then match is on their side. And india is still best in Asia.
 
India is over all the best side in Asia in all formats.
 
BDwarriors said:
BD bowling is weak, but pakistani batsman are still sadly not good enough. so pakistan beating BD in BD will be tough. On other hand if pakistan gets 2 early wicket, then match is on their side. And india is still best in Asia.
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Pakistan batsmen are good enough to bash West Indies, Sri Lankan and Bangladeshi bowling attacks. That's all these technically deficient batsmen are good for. Bangladesh might cause an upset in one game, but to be honest I don't see that happening either.
 
India easily. And it will remain so until we fix our system after which we might overtake them or at least start being on par with them in 5-6 years.

As has been mentioned already India have a great system in place at the moment. Fast bowlers were the one thing they lacked in the past but now those are starting to come up as well.

This is the current scenario though. Historically we have been the superior team and India have a long time to go before they dent that record.
 
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Usman Chadda said:
The reality is Bangladesh stand no chance against this Pakistan side. They are on a similar level to Sri Lanka, who were swept aside recently. Your batting is alright but Pakistan's bowling attack negates that. Your bowling is one of the worst of a full member side, and the likes of Hafeez and Malik suddenly wake up when faced with such bowling attacks. Let's see what happens when the two sides meet.
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As far as limited overs cricket is concerned, Bangladesh team is way ahead of current srilanka team and its not even up for a debate. If u didn't know that already, just wait for the end of the current tri nation series and u'll get the answer by urself.



Anyway, I won't belittle ur pak team by saying that sl is currently a better test team than Pakistan just because they destroyed and whitewashed Pakistan in their last tour of UAE. Because that's not true. Pakistan is still slightly ahead of Srilanka in tests and is on par with Bangladesh.


U can think whatever u want about our bowling attack. But the truth is this same bowling attack played the most important role in whitewashing a team of New Zealand's caliber twice, Pakistan once.


Even top class loi team like India or southafrica who have some of the best batters in the world faced the wrath of our bowling attack in our own backyard. Compared to the batters of those teams Hafeez and Malik is quite mediocre(with all due respect), especially at this stage of their career. I m pretty sure that even u know it. :)
 
Afghanistan - Fans have no expectations from them and when they win hey bring smile to their fans..
 
Pakistan: Deliver when given up on (sometimes), flop when expectations are high :sarf2

India: Lions at home, Kittens away :msd

Sri Lanka: Living on glories of the past :sanga

Bangladesh: Winning Hearts since 1986 :akhtar

Afghanistan: Talent bohot hai since 2001 :afridi

Asian Cricket by enlarge is in a sorry state of affairs. Certainly the worst I've seen whilst watching cricket for the past 20-25 years.

It could be argued even globally no team is particularly well positioned.

England - we all saw what happened to them in the Ashes and yet they have grown into a real power house when it comes to limited over cricket

South Africa - great in bilateral games....and that's it

Australia - had a great ashes, but by no means are world beaters which is reflected in their ODI performance

West Indies - well....you know....
 
RainMan_ said:
As far as limited overs cricket is concerned, Bangladesh team is way ahead of current srilanka team and its not even up for a debate. If u didn't know that already, just wait for the end of the current tri nation series and u'll get the answer by urself.



Anyway, I won't belittle ur pak team by saying that sl is currently a better test team than Pakistan just because they destroyed and whitewashed Pakistan in their last tour of UAE. Because that's not true. Pakistan is still slightly ahead of Srilanka in tests and is on par with Bangladesh.


U can think whatever u want about our bowling attack. But the truth is this same bowling attack played the most important role in whitewashing a team of New Zealand's caliber twice, Pakistan once.


Even top class loi team like India or southafrica who have some of the best batters in the world faced the wrath of our bowling attack in our own backyard. Compared to the batters of those teams Hafeez and Malik is quite mediocre(with all due respect), especially at this stage of their career. I m pretty sure that even u know it. :)
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Let's see what happens when we meet next. I hope it's not anytime soon so that Hafeez and Malik become superstars once again by bashing a harmless bowling attack, and save their spots in the team. Pakistan should stop playing West Indies, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe till we get these two out of our team.
 
Billa86 said:
According to the following formats which Asian team would you rate as ‘Superior’ during the Home & Away tours?

Home Tour:
ODI -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh
Test -> (1st) India, (2nd) Sri Lanka, (3rd) Pakistan
T20 -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh

Away Tour:
ODI -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh
Test -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Sri Lanka
T20 -> (1st) India, (2nd) Pakistan, (3rd) Bangladesh

Discuss.....
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Just to point out, since 2011, Pak have the best away win/loss ratio in tests of any Asian side against Eng, SA and Aus (not sure if the windies and nz were included in those stats). Why India is your number one is weird with that in mind.

in ODIs I'd agree.

In t20s its Pakistan.
 
Got to be India...
Second best is pakistan
And the third spot has to be one of Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or Afghanistan
I think these three teams are almost on par with each other in each format..
May be the Asia cup will decide a few things...
 
India has been the best Asian team in all formats since the 2000s.
 
Bangladesh are a decent team but hyped to the moon by their supporters. This is a demoralizing performance at home.
 
Pointless question. Only one team from Asia has been consistently in the top 3 rank in ICC. Other teams are like 6-9 rank.
 
You genuinely have to be delusional to not see that it's India across the board since the turn of the decade at the absolute least. While we had Gul and the spin trio, we were the best T20 side, but otherwise, and especially now, India holds a distinct advantage. A full player vs player analysis of the XIs is quite painful.
 
Nothing has changed over all order is the same, India, Pakistan, Srilanka

India with their massive resources and population is they only team who can sustain successes in all 3 formats although they have not translated the talent they have possessed in last 10 years into ICC trophies.
 
India are the best. Pakistan are second. Sri Lanka are third. Afghanistan are fourth. BD are fifth.

This is true for all formats.
 
India are clearly the best across all formats but SL have the best away win of the last wtc (unless the sa win came before, I cant remember). Pakistan a distant second, sl a distant third and after that it doesn't matter.
 
Bangladesh after Shakib/Rahim will be staring at a very long down period. As it is they are bad
 
India is the best Asian team from past 15 years, home or away, tests, ODIs, T20Is we are best Asian side and it's not even debatable.
Pakistan is 2nd best by some margin in all formats.
Srilanka with inclusion of Asalanka and Hasaranga are 3rd best side as Bangladesh's seniors fading away.
Bangladesh is worst Asian side in tests even worse than Afghanistan.
 
India is still the best but current Pakistan team is closing the gap. With Kohli Rehane and Pujara declining, , Pakistan might take over in 1-2 years. India's upcoming batsmen are equally talented and with emergence of Siraj, won't be easy for Pakistan .

With departmental teams abolished, Pakistan's FC structure is much better and competitive , we will see the positive result in coming years.
 
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