The last post was supposed to end my discussion but since you have asked couple of questions so has to answer them.
1) The stats are there on cricinfo. I checked it thoroughly and you are welcome to cross check. But I assure you those are not good reading for teh second tier.
2) I haven't watched PSL but apart from Akif and Dilbar, I have watched all other bowlers before. They were nothing special then . Noting special now. Akif and Dilabr- I have watched few videos here on PP. Looks decent but not like that they are destined to win over International cricket. Just like any other good potential bowler that every country have. Again we are talking about the potential . That can only be checked in PSL or in international cricket. In PSL, I have checked stats for both and they are comparable to second tier bowlers to IPL.
Tyagi has a perfect runup, good action, height and pace. Comparbale to Akif in potential. But until he give few solid performances in IPL or A tour, I am not hyping . This is against our cricket system.
1) So would you say stats tell the entire story?
2) Akif and Dilbar have impressed in PSL and national T20 cup, more than some of the Indian up and comers have in IPL. I am speaking about the actual quality of bowling, skill with swing, slower ones, bouncers, yorkers, and so on. Not about stats directly speaking, as stats are about the past and we are talking about potential, about golden spells hidden in those stats that are cropping up more and more often. That is to say, you say you have watched some of the bowlers before - is that memory fixed or have you watched the same bowlers recently as well?
Lastly, you made some claims in the first post:
First tier: Shaheen, Wahab, Amir, Hasnain, Rauf, Naseem ( all of these are current pakistan international)
It’s quite interesting because actually Rauf, Hasnain, Naseem, these guys are not fixtures in our T20 international team. They are relatively fringe players who have only recently begun picking performance and making a claim for themselves - these are the second string bowlers who are of far more quality than IPL’s second string.
I would also like to kindly add that in the overall list where you included these names as well
Musa
Akif
Raees
Amad Butt
Faheem Ashraf
Dilbar
Mo Irfan
Junaid Khan
Bhatti
Rahat Ali
You have missed out on including Hasan Ali from both first string and second string. You have also missed out on Mohammad Ilyas who is comparable in quality right now to Nagarkoti, Unadkat, etc.
You have also missed out on Sohail Khan, who for all the hate he gets on PP for being old, is a great second string new ball bowler, and also of far higher quality than people like Mohit Sharma.
You have also missed out on Sohail Tanvir, once an IPL hero himself.
But even from the names you have listed, Musa Khan is faster than 90% of IPL’s second string, Akif swings it both ways, Rumman Raees is a respectable pacer, Junaid Khan has some great memories against India, and last but not least, you are forgetting the following:
These bowlers don’t have the liberty of Jofra Archer, Rabada, or Nortje spearheading the attack, taking pressure off them. Bowling to Malan, Babar, Gayle, etc, folks like Hasnain, Ilyas, Musa have to
spearhead their attacks rather than play a supporting role.
Meanwhile, Shivam Mavi has Lockie Ferguson to take care of the top order for him.
That is why PSL watchers are adamant on the difference in quality. It is there for all to see. If you are willing to see it.
Look, take it from someone who has watched both IPL and PSL, you should watch PSL before you come to conclusions. We might not have the money for international superstars but our local talent is immensely entertaining to watch.
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